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Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by goshee: 11:14pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
ballerin:sharap you carword and cover ur face in shame. I thought it was a lie that Kwara state is a conquered territory until now. now I know why yorubas are called carwords. I'd rather die fighting for freedom than living as a slave. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by goshee: 11:18pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
laydoh:no we not be needing bloodbath at this present condition of Nigeria hence you are comfortable as slaves in your own land. pls define carwordice in your own terms |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by goshee: 11:21pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
ballerin:sharap there afonja price and princess are talking when slaves talk we will alert you |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by ballerin(m): 11:23pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Konquest:Very correct. Lagos island & Benin invasion was another similar scenario. If not for the British & the relentless efforts of Samuel Ajayi in reconciling warring factions, God knows what would have been left of the Yoruba nation. 2 Likes |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by highbee02: 11:30pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by IamBlanco(m): 11:35pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
abdulwastecx: when did calling a spade a spade hate speech? hey dude, facts don't care abt your feelings. the terms liberalism & freedom are alien words in the Islamic world, they have no meaning. it's either you follow the doings of Muhammad in d hadith or u are not a muslim, there's no inbtwn. there's nothing like liberal Muslim, moderate Muslim, a true Muslim will never allow his daughter marry a kafir. talking about d youbas, d fulanis don't categorize Yorubas as 1st class Muslims. they see them more as subordinates, slaves & fund raisers. as a Muslim in Nigeria, ure a subordinate to d sokoto caliphate whether u accept it or not. imagine the power Christian leaders lik oyedepo & adeboye has, yet these men have never ventured into politics. this cannot b said about the other side. cux they would have set the engines running to grab power by hook & crook. besides, Islam doesn't mean Peace, salam is the Arabic word for peace just lik shalom is the Hebrew word for peace. Islam mean submission, in context it means submit & have peace. what we see happening to the Benue ppl is d beginning, they must submit if the want peace. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by poseidon12: 12:11am On Feb 10, 2018 |
HomeOfMe: And you took him serious? Do you think that all those poor Northerners shouting Sai Baba are Fulani? They are Hausa, Kanuri, Nupe, Gwari. Come 2019, they will still vote Buhari. 3 Likes |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by poseidon12: 12:19am On Feb 10, 2018 |
babacletus: Well, the Fulanis act more and talk less. The Southerners talk more and act less. 2 Likes |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 1:28am On Feb 10, 2018 |
Mogidi: Must you wait until kingdom come before you seek for sense ? |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Nowenuse: 2:19am On Feb 10, 2018 |
sasalite: Wow! Am shocked to see a hausa man being as open as you are. I highly doubt you are a muslim hausa. Perhaps you are a Christian Maguzawa hausa. If not, then, am shocked! However I believe it is not too late. You can still do something for your people, no matter how small or minimal it is, don't just throw in the towel. Sometimes I get so frustrated at my own people (middlebelt and northern minorities), at the docility, foolishness and identity confusion and uncertainty of our people, but I don't think I would easily give up without a fight. In the future, I hope to form a very strong group to mobilize our people together and redefine a new identity and consciousness for them. 2 Likes |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Nowenuse: 2:25am On Feb 10, 2018 |
TEEBLUE88: You can imagine that!. And it was not as if your people were conquered by Zaria. It was through the colonial indirect rule which the fulanis took advantage of and enslaved most northern minorities. |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Nowenuse: 2:33am On Feb 10, 2018 |
ballerin: Saraki could actually be hausa or fulani by ancestry. Is Saraki a Yoruba name? No it's not. It is a corruption of the name SARKI, (which means king in Hausa). So, how come the name? |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Nowenuse: 2:43am On Feb 10, 2018 |
Odingo1: I am not a yoruba, so am not defending them, but I actually think they are right. Many Nigerian groups including the yorubas, nupes, Hausas, Kanuris, Baribas etc, were already muslims before Danfodio came. It is on record. Danfodio only made islam more radical (supposedly 'pure') by enliminating almost all forms of idolatary from cultures. Iwo is in Osun state, and they are more Islamic than many parts of Kwara south, Oyo state (Ogbomosho) and Kogi west, who are predominantly christian and more northerly located. So, that is really no point. Islam came into yoruba land from the western axis (Mali). Ondo, Ekiti and Kogi west are more eastern in location. |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Nowenuse: 2:52am On Feb 10, 2018 |
poseidon12: Nupe and gwari muslims will still vote Buhari again of course. They have lost their identity to islam. However, the christians among them will not. Kanuris and hausas value Islamic bond more than anything, so, no need to even consider whatever they say. The only muslims in Nigeria who do not play politics with religion are the yorubas and Igalas. Ebira muslims are just like nupe muslims, islam means more to the majority of them. |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by ANOWEDGREAT: 4:26am On Feb 10, 2018 |
TheKingIsHere: This is exactly what tinibu and ameachi are currently doing I hope they won't regret it in the future. |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by ballerin(m): 4:58am On Feb 10, 2018 |
Nowenuse:How many Yorubas, Hausas or Fulanis bear Saraki?. He alone can explain it but the fact remains that his grandfather was an Egba man. |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Dirkcoyt: 5:45am On Feb 10, 2018 |
Nowenuse: we will be needing each other help in near future, I pray God bless and keep you till then. 1 Like |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by bluke(m): 6:02am On Feb 10, 2018 |
Nwades: hes right nnamdi kanu (husein Bolt) the brave warrior that ojukwued. |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Nobody: 6:05am On Feb 10, 2018 |
My friend Edo state has nothing to do with yoruba. Odingo1: |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Nobody: 6:07am On Feb 10, 2018 |
I see your yoruba bravery. You are insulting a man who used words to fight against armed soldiers. I can see yoruba bravery now. bluke: 2 Likes |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by me69: 6:30am On Feb 10, 2018 |
From your story fulani is evil while afonja is kind-hearted. You are nothing but a tribal and religion bigot |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Nobody: 6:55am On Feb 10, 2018 |
Yes, am among the pure blood Hausas whose ancestors resisted Islam under pain of death from Danfodio and Ahmadu Bello's Islamasition movements. This resistance was passed from one generation to another with the aim of preserving the original Hausa Culture and Traditions. I see the middle belt as the key to the liberation of the Hausa land because the Hausas are way too comfortable with their gradual disappearance. Hausas with my kind of opinion are too few and weak to effect the corrections but an alliance with a united Middle belt can get the job done. This is because even if the Middle belt region should liberate itself, so long as the Sokoto sultanate and their puppet Amirs remain, the victory remains halfway. Full victory requires total undoing of Dan Fodio's mess. Hausa Kings (Haɓe) are better than the Amirs any day. The Middle belt region has power beyond what I can say but they are too divided, that is why the Fulanis will try to decimate them ASAP before another Kwararrafa emerges that is sure to address the current nonsense. Wake up Middle belt, Unite under one banner, set your cause and correct history's mistakes. Nowenuse: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by ayoxelee(m): 7:37am On Feb 10, 2018 |
Nowenuse:Exactly, But those pure Yorubas are minority in Ilorin, majority of people in Ilorin have either Fulani, Hausa or Nupe lineage. |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by ayoxelee(m): 7:41am On Feb 10, 2018 |
ballerin: So u think, ask any person who is from Ilorin, I dnt mean people staying in Ilorin, I mean d real indigene of Ilorin what their origin was, then u will understand that speaking Yoruba as a language doesn't mke us Yorubas |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by ayoxelee(m): 7:49am On Feb 10, 2018 |
me69:U got it.... Seriously d people clamouring for this oba and believe the story he just told are very few , majority of Ilorin peeps are OK with the rich Fulani culture Ilorin is famous. I dnt think there is a lineage in Ilorin that doesn't have any connection with a particular North East village or town and that's is why we still have some persons refers to as Alhaji Sokoto, Iya Kano etc in every household and most households still have family members in those aforementioned areas 1 Like |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Mccollins042(m): 7:55am On Feb 10, 2018 |
Windflower:you might not be a full blooded Yoruba because as was written above yorubas from kwara have been inter-marrying with the fulanis... U might just be a hybrid |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by abdulwastecx(m): 8:08am On Feb 10, 2018 |
ayoxelee: How can pure Yoruba be few in Ilorin when Ilorin was originally a pure Yoruba village? Majority of Ilorin indigene are pure Yoruba while majority of her elite are hybrid Yoruba-Nupe-fulani-hausa. In terms or heritage, Tue largest group are Yoruba, followed by Nupe, then borqu people of kebbi, then Fulani, then very small Hausa. Looking at the location of Ilorin you will know that it will be easier for immigration from Yoruba heartland than immigration from far away kano, sokoto etc. The Oyo's are a majority in Ilorin |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by ayoxelee(m): 8:47am On Feb 10, 2018 |
abdulwastecx:Are you from Ilorin or d u have a very close person from Ilorin |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by abdulwastecx(m): 9:04am On Feb 10, 2018 |
ayoxelee: My wife is from Ilorin and have relative from there |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Habakus: 9:35am On Feb 10, 2018 |
Adebowale89:What is even your problem with the Igbos? Eze ndigbo is just an appellation that shows someone is the leader of Ndigbo in a particular place. Even the Yorubas have their leaders in SE and you don't see Igbos carrying placards and whining over that. Have you ever heard of any Igbo anywhere outside of SE killing the indigenes and dragging their land? This is the major problem with you guys: you'd prefer to bury your heads in the sand while attacking innocent Igbos going about their businesses, meanwhile, some others are ravaging your land, abolishing your traditions and kings right under your nose. Continue. 3 Likes |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Nobody: 9:51am On Feb 10, 2018 |
Kwara means Palm tree in Hausa language . Why is it that the State was not named after the Yoruba's if truly they owned the state |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Nobody: 10:10am On Feb 10, 2018 |
Puffydon1: It was named after the local name for river Niger. |
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