LaudableXX:


Don't mind him. His links and assertions are totally wrong, from beginning to end. His claims hold no water, and are based on a falsehood of the highest order, especially the part about Moremi being one of their SE-Igbo people. Abi, is it not the same Moremi Ajasoro historical story, that we were all taught in primary school in Lagos?

Even the Olugbo of Ugbo kingdom in Ondo state has shed more light about Moremi, and the relationship she had with his people. In his own words, it is obvious that the Igbo invaders referred to in the Moremi Ajasoro story, were originally from Ugbo in present day Ondo state, and NOT aboriginals from Igbo land or Ala Igbo in the Southeast region.

FisifunKododada:
The sky is blue...Olukunmis originate from Yorubas...you can debate from now till eternity...facts are facts.

igbodefender:
Do you know how many Ugbos are in today's Igbo Land? We have Ugbokko Araba (sounds like Idi Araba, right?), Onicha (Orissa) Ugbo, Ugboba in the Olukumi speaking epicenter and counting.

LaudableXX:


Oga, keep your false claims to yourself, please! You sound more ridiculous by the minute!

FisifunKododada:
The sky is blue...Olukunmis originate from Yorubas...you can debate from now till eternity...facts are facts.

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Ugbodu Town lies at a latitude of 6.3793200 and longitude of 6.4585900 and it has an elevation of 241 meters above sea level. It is a Yoruba speaking community based deep in the heart of Igbo speaking communities. The village is one of six villages which trace their origin to Owo town in Ondo State of Nigeria. Ugbodu consists of four villages namely, Igwisi, Idumu-Agba, Ogoza and Idumu Ogwa.

The people through interaction and centuries of living in their present location speak both Olukumi and Igbo languages. Olukumi is the Yoruba language spoken by Owo people in present day Ondo State in Nigeria. Collectively, the six Olukumi speaking towns make up what is known as Odiani clan.

Ugbodu is the place where the East of Nigeria, meets the West of Nigeria, as this town and its other Olukumi speaking communities of Delta State of Nigeria is the only place in the whole of Nigeria which speaks both the Igbo and Yoruba languages fluently as a people. It is also one of the most deprived communities in Nigeria today.

Despite this, the town boasts of many graduates in various fields. It has produced lawyers, doctors, engineers, agriculturists, scientists, and a national beauty pageant amongst others. It also boasts of a nursery school, two primary schools, one secondary school, a hospital, a post office, several churches etc.https://juanitaazubuike./ogbodu-town/

igbodefender:
But these towns exist. Just pless Google search for ya fone.

LaudableXX:


Don't mind him. His links and assertions are totally wrong, from beginning to end. His claims hold no water, and are based on a falsehood of the highest order, especially the part about Moremi being one of their SE-Igbo people. Abi, is it not the same Moremi Ajasoro historical story, that we were all taught in primary school in Lagos?

Even the Olugbo of Ugbo kingdom in Ondo state has shed more light about Moremi, and the relationship she had with his people. In his own words, it is obvious that the Igbo invaders referred to in the Moremi Ajasoro story, were originally from Ugbo in present day Ondo state, and NOT aboriginals from Igbo land or Ala Igbo in the Southeast region.

igbodefender:


You haven't done research yet you have concluded that Uhe was never an ancient name for Ile Ife. You haven't read a book yet you have concluded that it is 'fake'.

That's the problem. You are like those people that were insisting that the world was flat when they were being told by 'revisionists' that it was in fact spherical.

Learn to have an open mind sometimes. Thank us later.

Ritchiee:


Okay,I am sorry.What is the name of the book and its author or you have a link to the book?

LaudableXX:


Please see this excerpt from one of the community associations of Ugbodu, which is located in the diaspora. At least, these people should know their historical origins and their language, not so? And this article was written by an Olukumi indigene, who bears an Igbo name, yet acknowledges that their origin and language is from a Yoruba town. Wonders shall never cease!

igbodefender:
I think I posted it some pages ago on this thread.

igbodefender:


Something tells me this might be a hurriedly edited Wikipedia article. We are aware that anyone can edit Wikipedia.

Having said that, I will study it with an open mind and get back to you. Thanks.

GworoChewinMaga:


There is no such thing as yoruba.

Go and ask the oldest living relic in your family what they used to call themselves

Yoruba is a hausa/fulani mockery of your people.

I sha blame Ajayi Crowther for taking an arab muslim description which he got from hausa/fulanis in Nigeria as the name of your tribe.

[s]This is what this thread is all about and not about dragging tribe[/s]

igbodefender:


Obatala towns of Southern Nigeria are towns found in Yoruba Land and Igbo Land that were founded fully or partially by descendants of the Obatalas of Ile Ife. They include Ugbo, Owu and Owu settlements all over Igbo Land and Yoruba Land, Ugbodu, Onicha Ugbo, Onitsha Ado, Ugbokko Araba (sounds like Idi Araba, right?), and many others.

The Obatalas were the rulers of Ile Ife before the arrival of Oduduwa The Great. They also had other titles like Oba Igbo and Osere Igbo.

Igbos and Yorubas should stop quarreling, as they have many deep linkages between them. They are twins bound togather forever, whether they like it or not. And they can do great things together.

We are currently looking into deeply of these, and would bring you more refreshing history soon.It will be well with the Igbos and Yorubas. Amen.
Source: http://www.igbodefender.com/2017/05/24/the-obatala-towns-of-igbo-land-and-yoruba-land/

Truthcat:
I didn't know you have all that.

I hope we stop fighting too, because the winner in all of this are fulani.

igbodefender:


I truly wish in my heart that Igbo and Yoruba can truly become real friends like the British and the French.

They don't need to merge. Two Great Black Cultures StandingSiide By Side, complementing each other.

LaudableXX:


Guy, what are you saying? The traditional ruler of Ugbodu, is not the Odogwu. It is the Oloza. And his name is Obi Ayo Ochei Isinyemeze.

Secondly, Father which you said is 'Bami' in Olukumi language, also has the same meaning and intonation in standard Yoruba language, if I remember my Yoruba language lessons, correctly. Even the phrase which you quoted here - 'bring pure water come', in Olukumi language/dialect means exactly the same thing in Yoruba - ''mu pure water wa'.

Anyway, let me allow the native Yoruba speakers to give their opinion concerning this issue.

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Konquest:
^^^^^
^^^^^
@LaudableXX
I'm just seeing your post because
I've been off NL for sometime.

That guy you replied in your post
isn't making sense just as you said.

I recall reading about Ugbodu in Aniocha North
in the online version of The Nation over
7 years ago and the traditional ruler of
Ugbodu who is known as HRH
Oloza Ayo Isinyemeze said
his people were the first to arrive
in that community centuries back
when they left Benin and moved to
Esan territory. He said they are originally
of Yoruba ancestry! There was a time
they even took up some Esan/Edoid
names in addition to their Yoruba
names. All the members of the Royal
Family in Ugbodu had Yoruba names.


"Oloza" is a derivative of the Yoruba word
Oloja, a chieftaincy title for a market
leader/leader of traders. Odogwu
is not the title used in Ugbodu. It used
to be Obi of Ugbodu but it was replaced
with the title Oloza.

Onicha Ugbo is also located in Aniocha
North like the Olukunmis and they are
very close in terms of location. Dr. Ibe
Kachiku is from Onicha Ugbo and he
is the Odogwu of Onicha Ugbo.
From what I read about Onicha Ugbo,
they have Edo and Nri immigration
or ancestry as well, with Bini aristocratic
titles. I read that "Odogwu" is a derivative
of the Benin word "Odogun" which means
"head of warriors" which kind of sounds
like Olori Ogun [head of warriors] in Yoruba...
since "Ogun" means WAR in Yoruba.

Nduka Ugbade, the iconic captain of
the 1985 Under-16 Worldcup winning team
is an Olukunmi from Ugbodu. A former
Miss Nigeria who is now late is also
from Ugbodu among several prominent
indigenes.

The Ibo influence is as a result of relatively
recent acculturation in the Aniocha/Delta
North axis. The traditional ruler said this
is the reason they are giving their children
Yoruba names and also encouraging
Yoruba/Olukunmi language contests in
the article that I read online.

I read a research by 2 lecturers from
Delta State Univ in Ekpoma [one of who
has the surname of Mordi] that most communities
in Delta North were founded by people from
different ethnic groups... from Benin, Esan,
Yoruba [Olukunmis], Igalas, Nri migrants,etc.
In the PDF documents which you can
still download via Google, the research shows
that each town in Delta North knows its
history. [You can use the search terms:
"Origin of Anioma People of Delta North"].
Most of the communities in Delta North
were founded by migrants from Benin.
A massive DNA test would prove these
FACTS in the final analysis.

The people of Delta North respect one
another's history...it is some of the ill-informed
outsiders from across the east of river Niger that
go about saying that entire Delta North is of
pure Ibo origin... which is false! One of the
ill-informed boys from the S/E posted
a FALSE post on one other Website were
the charlatan said Olukunmis were "slaves"
who were captured by core Ibos which is
a pure lie as Olukunmis were NEVER enslave
by anybody in Delta North.

Olukunmi war commanders from Eko Efun
Town [Eko Efun or "white chalk" in Yoruba,
also known as Ukwu Nzu town were also actively involved in the Ekumeku war against the
BritishBritish invasion of Delta North.

ANIOMA is a relatively new acronym that
was coined by the Asaba-born 1st Republic politician, Chief Osita Osadebe around the
early 1970s.

LaudableXX:


Thank you for your contributions. Very enlightening, indeed!

Konquest:

^^^^^
^^^^^
@LaudableXX
I'm just seeing your post because
I've been off NL for sometime.

That guy you replied in your post
isn't making sense just as you said.

I recall reading about Ugbodu in Aniocha North
in the online version of The Nation over
7 years ago and the traditional ruler of
Ugbodu who is known as HRH
Oloza Ayo Isinyemeze said
his people were the first to arrive
in that community centuries back
when they left Benin and moved to
Esan territory. He said they are originally
of Yoruba ancestry! There was a time
they even took up some Esan/Edoid
names in addition to their Yoruba
names. All the members of the Royal
Family in Ugbodu had Yoruba names.


"Oloza" is a derivative of the Yoruba word
Oloja, a chieftaincy title for a market
leader/leader of traders. Odogwu
is not the title used in Ugbodu. It used
to be Obi of Ugbodu but it was replaced
with the title Oloza.

Onicha Ugbo is also located in Aniocha
North like the Olukunmis and they are
very close in terms of location. Dr. Ibe
Kachiku is from Onicha Ugbo and he
is the Odogwu of Onicha Ugbo.
From what I read about Onicha Ugbo,
they have Edo and Nri immigration
or ancestry as well, with Bini aristocratic
titles. I read that "Odogwu" is a derivative
of the Benin word "Odogun" which means
"head of warriors" which kind of sounds
like Olori Ogun [head of warriors] in Yoruba...
since "Ogun" means WAR in Yoruba.

Nduka Ugbade, the iconic captain of
the 1985 Under-16 Worldcup winning team
is an Olukunmi from Ugbodu. A former
Miss Nigeria who is now late is also
from Ugbodu among several prominent
indigenes.

The Ibo influence is as a result of relatively
recent acculturation in the Aniocha/Delta
North axis. The traditional ruler said this
is the reason they are giving their children
Yoruba names and also encouraging
Yoruba/Olukunmi language contests in
the article that I read online.

I read a research by 2 lecturers from
Delta State Univ in Ekpoma [one of who
has the surname of Mordi] that most communities
in Delta North were founded by people from
different ethnic groups... from Benin, Esan,
Yoruba [Olukunmis], Igalas, Nri migrants,etc.
In the PDF documents which you can
still download via Google, the research shows
that each town in Delta North knows its
history. [You can use the search terms:
"Origin of Anioma People of Delta North"].
Most of the communities in Delta North
were founded by migrants from Benin.
A massive DNA test would prove these
FACTS in the final analysis.

The people of Delta North respect one
another's history...it is some of the ill-informed
outsiders from across the east of river Niger that
go about saying that entire Delta North is of
pure Ibo origin... which is false! One of the
ill-informed boys from the S/E posted
a FALSE post on one other Website were
the charlatan said Olukunmis were "slaves"
who were captured by core Ibos which is
a pure lie as Olukunmis were NEVER enslave
by anybody in Delta North.

Olukunmi war commanders from Eko Efun
Town [Eko Efun or "white chalk" in Yoruba,
also known as Ukwu Nzu town were also actively involved in the Ekumeku war against the
BritishBritish invasion of Delta North.

ANIOMA is a relatively new acronym that
was coined by the Asaba-born 1st Republic politician, Chief Osita Osadebe around the
early 1970s.

Klinee:
The traditional ruler of Ugbodu uses Odogwu title, Odogwu is purely Igbo and has nothing to do with Benin.
Those things you read online dose not actually give the reality, an in-depth explanatory of people of Ugbodu.
'Okunzu' the real pronunciation means the depot of whitechalk in Igbo language. Am not arguing if they are Igbo or Yoruba but am sure that their language is not Igbo nor Yoruba but they speak Igbo.
Truth their language is very similar to Yoruba but they answer Igbo name and do traditional Igbo culture.

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ugbodu Town lies at a latitude of 6.3793200 and longitude of 6.4585900 and it has an elevation of 241 meters above sea level. It is a Yoruba speaking community based deep in the heart of Igbo speaking communities. The village is one of six villages which trace their origin to Owo town in Ondo State of Nigeria. ugbodu consists of four villages namely, Igwisi, Idumu-Agba, Ogoza and Idumu Ogwa.

The people through interaction and centuries of living in their present location speak both Olukumi and Igbo languages. Olukumi is the Yoruba language spoken by Owo people in present day Ondo State in Nigeria. Collectively, the six Olukumi speaking towns make up what is known as Odiani clan.

Ugbodu is the place where the East of Nigeria, meets the West of Nigeria, as this town and its other Olukumi speaking communities of Delta State of Nigeria is the only place in the whole of Nigeria which speaks both the Igbo and Yoruba languages fluently as a people. It is also one of the most deprived communities in Nigeria today.

Despite this, the town boasts of many graduates in various fields. It has produced lawyers, doctors, engineers, agriculturists, scientists, and a national beauty pageant amongst others. It also boasts of a nursery school, two primary schools, one secondary school, a hospital, a post office, several churches etc.https://juanitaazubuike./ogbodu-town/

ojukwu stop acting like u know history. The name Yoruba was given by the Songhai scholar Ahmed baba in his book and was only popularized by Hausa to refer to people of oyo. Hausa did not sack Oyo Ile the nupe did and no oba of oyo was killed. I don’t know where ipob get their history facts maybe there is an alternative facts privy only to ipob that the rest of the world doesn’t know about.

Ritchiee:


Yorubas are/were adventurous, even Ugbodu town in the heart of Delta state is inhabited by Yorubas who have been "acculturated" but they know their root...


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Ugbodu Town
Ugbodu Town lies at a latitude of
6.3793200 and longitude of
6.4585900 and it has an elevation of
241 meters above sea level. It is a
Yoruba speaking community based
deep in
the heart of Igbo speaking
communities. The village is one of
six villages which trace their origin
to Owo Town in Ondo State of
Nigeria. Ugbodu consists of four
villages namely, Igwisi, Idumu-Agba,
Ogoza and
Idumu Ogwa.
The people through interaction and
centuries of living in their present
location speak both Olukumi and
Igbo languages. Olukumi is the
Yoruba language spoken by Owo
people in present day Ondo State in
Nigeria. Collectively, the six Olukumi
speaking towns make up what is
known as Odiani clan.
Ugbodu is the place where the East
of Nigeria meets the West of Nigeria
as this town and its other Olukumi
speaking communities of Delta State
of Nigeria is the only place in the
whole of Nigeria which speaks both
the Igbo and Yoruba languages
fluently as a people. It is also one of
the most deprived communities in
Nigeria today.
Despite this, the town boasts of
many graduates in various fields. It
has produced lawyers, doctors,
engineers, agriculturists, scientists,
and a national beauty pageant
amongst others. It also boasts of a
nursery school, two primary schools,
one secondary school, a hospital, a
post office, several churches etc.


https://juanitaazubuike./ogbodu-town/

dahomey were already known to yorubas already before the Songhai scholar Ahmed baba coined the name Yoruba and was popularized by Hausa not Fulani. Read history ojukwu read ignorance will not save u lol. Please show more pain on this thread regarding the great documented Yoruba history i love it. Am out of this thread

ojukwu stop acting like u know history. The name Yoruba was given by the Songhai scholar Ahmed baba in his book and was only popularized by Hausa to refer to people of oyo. Hausa did not sack Oyo Ile the nupe did and no oba of oyo was killed. I don’t know where ipob get their history facts maybe there is an alternative facts privy only to ipob that the rest of the world doesn’t know about.

how is Oyoroba a mockery according to the osu lol

Klinee:
The traditional ruler of Ugbodu uses Odogwu title, Odogwu is purely Igbo and has nothing to do with Benin.
Those things you read online dose not actually give the reality, an in-depth explanatory of people of Ugbodu.
'Okunzu' the real pronunciation means the depot of whitechalk in Igbo language. Am not arguing if they are Igbo or Yoruba but am sure that their language is not Igbo nor Yoruba but they speak Igbo.
Truth their language is very similar to Yoruba but they answer Igbo name and do traditional Igbo culture.