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Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by butterflylion: 12:07am On May 27, 2018 |
1stSonOfLucifer: For the basis of this argument alone what if I say God exists can you disprove his existence to me since I am sure? What yardstick did you use to measure the non existence of a God who exists outside our realm bearing in mind that you are confined and limited to this realm. |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by 1stSonOfLucifer(m): 12:10am On May 27, 2018 |
butterflylion:@bold I give up. Butterfly, you could do better than typing the emboldened. You fall my GP |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by 1stSonOfLucifer(m): 12:13am On May 27, 2018 |
butterflylion: Why help you disprove something you claim exist? Oga, proof god exist. I don't know if your god exist. Oyah you that know god exist should proof. I'm not arguing about a non-existent god. My stance is "I don't know". So pls, attend to my question 1 Like |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by butterflylion: 12:18am On May 27, 2018 |
1stSonOfLucifer: Ahh now you see your folly don't you? In the same vein, why should anyone ask for evidence of something they claim does not exist. You and I know you are in the league of those who claim God does not exist and not in the agnostic league so trying to pretend to be an agnostic for sake of this proof is laughable and childish. I would only entertain such childishness if I was actually totally jobless and good thing I am not. Tell your fellow atheists the same thing you just said above which is " why help me disprove something I claim exists"! And let me add this one too "Why ask for evidence for something you already said does not exist? Such evidence surely wouldn't exist too"! Would it? |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by butterflylion: 12:18am On May 27, 2018 |
1stSonOfLucifer: You have never had a GP. Demands are made and its up to whoever to respond to such demands or ignore them. Nobody is a robot to another who when they say give me, I then automatically give. Think and grow some actual GP. |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by 1stSonOfLucifer(m): 12:20am On May 27, 2018 |
butterflylion:If god is beyond your scope of reason, how come do you expect me to believe all you have been typing? I tell you I can't explain how y became x and suddenly I started explaining what I said I don't understand. If you're a rational human being, won't you question my explanations since my first premise was that I can't explain how y became x 2 Likes |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by 1stSonOfLucifer(m): 12:22am On May 27, 2018 |
butterflylion:Go and sleep joor. Evidently, you're on drugs. We are talking a, you're bringing b |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by butterflylion: 12:23am On May 27, 2018 |
1stSonOfLucifer: Definition is different from explanation. Learn to read for sake of understanding. Somebody is talking about definition and here you are talking about explanation. Please show some intelligence. |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by butterflylion: 12:24am On May 27, 2018 |
1stSonOfLucifer: Look up and see who is talking B while I am talking A |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by 1stSonOfLucifer(m): 12:26am On May 27, 2018 |
butterflylion:Let's agree I'm unintelligent like you stylishly & outrightly stating. Substitute "DEFINITION" for "EXPLANATION" |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by 1stSonOfLucifer(m): 12:28am On May 27, 2018 |
butterflylion:Hahaha hahahahahaha. Dalaman get time sef to type epistle with you...... Go and reload joor. Take cover. Outta thread |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by butterflylion: 12:31am On May 27, 2018 |
1stSonOfLucifer: Still wouldn't change my already declared position about you and your childish attempt to feign agnosticism when you clearly aren't one. If you were an agnostic then this discussion would follow a different path based on the curiosity of the agnostic but your direction is pretty much predictable. So DIRECTLY at your atheistic self I repeat, "Why ask for evidence for something you already said does not exist? Such evidence surely wouldn't exist too"! Nobody can ever eat his cake and have it. Its either you have the cake or you eat it. You have eaten yours. |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by 1stSonOfLucifer(m): 12:36am On May 27, 2018 |
butterflylion: 1. You couldn't proof god exist to an agnostic since you always assert both atheists and theists should provide evidences for their claim. LoL 2. Where did I state being an atheist? Provide link. 3. Assuming I claimed to be an atheist, I have reverted to be a Buddhist. So proof ya god exist. Lol.
I'm not an agnostic neither been an atheist. I just seek knowledge. Proof ya god exist. Im not an atheist |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by pressplay411(m): 6:04am On May 27, 2018 |
Seun: This got my attention. As noble as this is, what if you're the one who needs liberation? I was an atheist but ended up a theist again. I've seen both ends of the spectrum and trust me there's light at the end of only one tunnel, Christ. Look beyond the grotesque religious charade that is more publicized and misrepresenting the real christianity. Seek to understand Christianity, Jesus Christ and then make your verdict. You'll realise you never really knew Him as i also realised. 2 Likes |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by luvmijeje(f): 6:09am On May 27, 2018 |
Dalam0n: It's also based your claim as an Atheist that God doesn't exist, that I'm asking for evidence. If you can do that, I'll do mine. 2 Likes |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by butterflylion: 6:55am On May 27, 2018 |
1stSonOfLucifer: So where is the evidence for the claims of atheists? The OP claimed God doesn't exist but rather is a creation of the human mind. WHERE IS HIS EVIDENCE? Atheists made the first claim here so their evidence is very much demanded. However, they themselves have placed me on a restriction by demanding from me evidence of something that does not exist to them. Does this not also mean that the evidence does not exist? 2. Where did I state being an atheist? Provide link. Show me evidence that you are now a Buddhist. Your claim requires proof. This is a faceless forum. Claims are a dime a dozen here. I'm not an agnostic neither been an atheist. I just seek knowledge. Proof ya god exist. Then you are confused! Im not an atheist So says an atheist. |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by MuttleyLaff: 7:52am On May 27, 2018 |
HardMirror: Seun:I completely concur with you, it was a waste of DarkMatter2525's and the brilliant animator's time. I enjoy watching DarkMatter2525 videos as I always find them amusing and entertaining AnonyNymous:Pantheon: "Whose God are you?" Human being: "I created all the gods, yes, but I myself, I am not a God I, am humanity and I created you created you because there were times when I felt scared and alone There were times when I grieved There were times when I felt awe and wonder, yet didn't have the answers I so desperately wanted but most of all, there were times when I wanted to control other people and in all these things the creation of the gods was most useful You may have been a necessary evil but humanity is growing up and the time has come to put away childish things" God took time to create human beings in His image and likeness the end of the animated video proved that human beings have perversely returned the favour Seun:Notice the reality and separation of God from gods in DarkMatter2525's video and the brilliant animation Astronomers cannot see dark matter directly, but can see and study its effects... pressplay411:Word up |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by Nobody: 8:11am On May 27, 2018 |
pressplay411:Lol stop lying for jesus.. was an atheist ke,atheistis ni..... An atheist can become theist only if he want to fool the deluded and make financial gains.. There is no way you will see the errors of religion and come back believing in the absurbdity |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by Dalam0n: 8:15am On May 27, 2018 |
luvmijeje: I've told you that absence of evidence is evidence of absence. You claim that God exist and you can NOT provide evidence for it, that is evidence that your God doesn't exist. You can't give what you don't have. |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by Nobody: 8:21am On May 27, 2018 |
Dalam0n:He is bringing his bible as evidence..lol Ask him which of the god is he claiming exist then debunk it...i know it will be that useless yahwe brought to them through slavery he will support.. 1 Like
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Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by hopefulLandlord: 8:22am On May 27, 2018 |
Dalam0n: I think I should break it down a bit for these guys to get what you're saying and I hope they do Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence for entities that don't claim to interact with us, created us and wants to have a Personal relationship with us But absence of evidence IS evidence of absence for entities that claim to interact with us, created us and wants to have a Personal relationship with us. Absence of evidence where evidence is expected is evidence of absence I hope they do but I strongly doubt they would Edit: a word 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by Nobody: 8:25am On May 27, 2018 |
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Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by butterflylion: 8:30am On May 27, 2018 |
Dalam0n: And you can't know what is unknowable despite its existence. I keep telling you to stop throwing this fallacy of yours around because it is ignorant and based on a false dichotomy. You never learn but keep thinking your comment is valid. A typical example is that in the period of ignorance things like radiation, bacteria, viruses existed but could not be proven due to the levels of ignorance prevalent at that time but the lack of evidence for them did not mean they did not exist. They were always there. The problem you fail to realise is that man has placed himself as the judge of what exists and what doe snot exist based on available evidence to him but that itself is a misnomer and clearly shows whenever scientists say THEY DISCOVERED anything. This shows that what they discovered had always been there but they just needed to convince themselves via evidence to themselves. This is why I keep telling you that your argument from ignorance is simply silly. It clearly says there that it is AN IGNORANT ARGUMENT and this means that you the one using this argument is the one that is on the weak side based on being IGNORANT. 1 Like |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by Nobody: 8:35am On May 27, 2018 |
butterflylion:lol keep comparing your god to bacteria |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by butterflylion: 8:36am On May 27, 2018 |
Godpolymath: Liar liar at the bolded. Tell that to hardcore atheists who became theists. Eg Lee strobel, Anthony McGrath, Rosalind Picard, Francis Collins, Vladimir Putin, C.S Lewis, Anthony Flew and so on. They were well known for being hardcore atheists. You are clearly still a fledgling. 1 Like |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by MuttleyLaff: 8:37am On May 27, 2018 |
Godpolymath:Whether you like or dont like, its his God as much as its yours too |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by butterflylion: 8:37am On May 27, 2018 |
Godpolymath: You can't blame me can you? That's the level of examples suitable for atheists like you. At least you understood that part didn't you? 1 Like |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by orisa37: 8:45am On May 27, 2018 |
I am manufacturing a special Binocular to scan this irrational topic. |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by Nobody: 8:48am On May 27, 2018 |
butterflylion:i saw putin i laughed.... Some people are just too smart to be associated with religion e.g obama |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by Dalam0n: 8:48am On May 27, 2018 |
butterflylion: Will you stop embarrassing your self with this lame logic you are trying to throw around that keeps showing that you know nothing about what you are saying?
When did any body come out and say that bacteria does not exist in the history or man kind? Who were the people that denied the existence of radiation? These things were never denied at any time but were later discovered as knowledge increased. Nobody has ever denied their existence. For their existwnce to be denied someone must have stated that they existed first before another person will deny it. No such thing has ever happned, these thingd were just discovered as knowledge increased. If anybody says bacteria does not exist for what ever reason all what was needed was to show that bacteria exist and that's all. The person's denial has nothing to do with the proof that was provided despite his denial. The proof will show that his denial was totally false.
Scientist have made many claims and they had to change or abandon the claims in the absence of evidence.
We are talking about a Yahweh here, Yahweh we are told has many attributes, he is alive, he interacts in nature in specific ways that can be known, he wants and does things in natuere that can be known when observed. We are not talking about an abstract thing that isn't known. We are talking about Yahweh, an entity that is well defined whose followers keep making endless claims about him. You specifically have told an atheist here that Jesus loves him endlessly. Where is the evidence of that claim? The absence of evidence is evidence absence. You can't give what you don't have. 1 Like |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by ElsonMorali: 8:49am On May 27, 2018 |
HardMirror: Can you even prove that God does NOT exist? |
Re: God Is An Atheist: What Theists Cant argue.Discover God's God by shaybebaby(f): 8:50am On May 27, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:Okay, god exists. And so do unicorns. |
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