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Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by ziga: 5:42pm On Jun 04, 2010
benchwest:

this is not sharing of money,the bottom line is that there is no legit sytem in nig,
firstly we need a solid central national base,and then central data base for labour ministry.'
through the data base of the labour ministry the govt gets  taxes from workers
and in return workers should get return when they lost there job ,especially temporally jobs.
4 my own opinion you dont just start paying welfare to some one  who havent worked or pay tax to the govt.
the govt can creat a policy, for example if  you have worked for 1 year in any company being it private or public
this company most make you  a contract of work through the ministry of labour, and the ministry should keep this information in there data base
of which they knew how long you are goonna work with thus company and the taxes you are gonna pay.
after you are done  with this job and you are jobless,the ministry knew already through there data base .for example you worked for 1 year
your welfare social reward from the govt could be to pay you back 40 or 50% of your salary for 4 months or 6 months
and two years will then  be 8 months or 10 months.

theres is welfare in every develope country through out the  world , but then every country got her  policy or system of welfare policy

i thinck there is no doubt that we need to creat a great pension policy in nigerian society,provide free
health care, and make it more stardard.
howevert the most importantly is  central data base, the id card system will  be very very vital. is a  solid way of keeping record in all vital areas.
for example to get loans from the bank,census,is vital in electoral system,control crimes,reduce crimes,
so the id card system is vital, and when we got that, then we got the central data system, and of course every nigerian should go get the id card.
the law makers should  do something about  making it no id card  no recognition, especially in public places like banks,ministries,
so when u dont have id they cant attend to you,just to make poeple go get theres.
god bles nig
.



Your proposal is a brilliant modification of the stoopid scheme that our political leaders are proposing for graduates.

But also, another welfare scheme may be required for the true underprivileged.

Sometimes, it seems that they don't really analyze things before making decisions.
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by Nobody: 5:56pm On Jun 04, 2010
na_so:


Nothing annoys me about NL than the first bolded statement. So anyone that faults this idea is of low or average intelligence. Nonsense. If you still do not know how controversial economic issues like these are amongst even seasoned proffesors of economics  then you have no business discussing this.

Ok from your logic this is now the substitute for the minimum standard of good roads,education, and other job creating ventures of governmnet abi?

Looking at your post make me laugh. So becuase they(politicians) have been looting, the best approach is to come up with a proposal that only tries to scratch the surface of the problem? How will you implement and sustain this proposal?  You talk as if this is one venture that will be immune to the "nigerian factor" . Do you have proper records of graduates and those unemployed?

So you think politicians will  now stop looting and fund this with monies that traditionally should come to there pocket? As if you dont know these politicians will obtain foreign loans to do this nonsense.
some people here think writing long sentences with sophisticated grammar is what they call being intelligent.just wave that insult to the side and get going afterall,we are learning here.
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by Meddler(f): 6:24pm On Jun 04, 2010
Good idea. I'm actually impressed at the idea especially since it's Nigeria. But how about putting that money into creating actual jobs like building up infrastructures etc. I mean the country needs a face lift any way. Why not pay ppl to actually do that. Just a thought.

So will this be like unemployment benefits like in the US or Food Assistance
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by Kobojunkie: 6:31pm On Jun 04, 2010
Meddler:

Good idea. I'm actually impressed at the idea especially since it's Nigeria. But how about putting that money into creating actual jobs like building up infrastructures etc.
Come on now. . .  you know we are still speaking here of Nigeria. Money no be the issue. these same have spent over 10 times of that amount to "build infrastructure", "create jobs for these same unemployed" . . . abegi make we consult the reality of the situation here ooo.
Meddler:

I mean the country needs a face lift any way. Why not pay ppl to actually do that. Just a thought.
They knew this when they gave themselves billions in raises. They knew this when they allowed over 20 billion to disappear underground over the last 10 years. They remember this each and every time they approve yet another gosh aweful scheme to help syphon some more of the poeple's money into private pockets.
Meddler:
So will this be like unemployment benefits like in the US or Food Assistance
ROFLMAO!! Now you are just going too far - - - you are dreaming too big there. Be happy if we even 6 months of benefits paid out to ACTUAL Nigerians.
ROFLMAO!!!
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by Fhemmmy: 6:41pm On Jun 04, 2010
Only if done right will it benefit those that it is meant for.
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by bkbabe97: 7:10pm On Jun 04, 2010
na_so:


Nothing annoys me about NL than the first bolded statement. So anyone that faults this idea is of low or average intelligence. Nonsense. If you still do not know how controversial economic issues like these are amongst even seasoned proffesors of economics  then you have no business discussing this.


Lol. Oh, u just got greeted by OnlyliesTruth, the SMARTEST I.DI.OT in the land. Thats just how he is, u dont conform with his moronic ideas he calls u an idi.ot. Ure lucky he didnt throw in the usual ". . .Ur mother is a. . ." or the Ho.mos.exual jokes him and his cohorts usually drop! Thank the good lord all u got was a verbal ticking off. lol grin
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by Meddler(f): 7:31pm On Jun 04, 2010
Kobojunkie:

Come on now. . . you know we are still speaking here of Nigeria. Money no be the issue. these same have spent over 10 times of that amount to "build infrastructure", "create jobs for these same unemployed" . . . abegi make we consult the reality of the situation here ooo. They knew this when they gave themselves billions in raises. They knew this when they allowed over 20 billion to disappear underground over the last 10 years. They remember this each and every time they approve yet another gosh aweful scheme to help syphon some more of the poeple's money into private pockets.ROFLMAO!! Now you are just going too far - - - you are dreaming too big there. Be happy if we even 6 months of benefits paid out to ACTUAL Nigerians.
ROFLMAO!!!
HAHAHAHAHA!!! Thanks Kobo for smacking sense into me lol so I guess it's back to lowered expectations. I let my american thought process get the best of me lol. Yeah u're right. Dis na Nigeria. What was I thinking. Well you really dissect and analyze this proposal it sounds very unrealistic. Let's start from the very basic. Just like others have pointed out, how will they verify if you are unemployed graduate, or verify when u become employed? Oh well i'm waiting to see how this will go down.
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by Kobojunkie: 7:40pm On Jun 04, 2010
Meddler:

HAHAHAHAHA!!! Thanks Kobo for smacking sense into me lol so I guess it's back to lowered expectations. I let my american thought process get the best of me lol. Yeah u're right. Dis na Nigeria. What was I thinking. Well you really dissect and analyze this proposal it sounds very unrealistic. Let's start from the very basic. Just like others have pointed out, how will they verify if you are unemployed graduate, or verify when u become employed? Oh well i'm waiting to see how this will go down.

Bia, make you drop that your ANALYTICAL AND DETAIL-ORIENTED self right there for obodo oyinbo wey you dey oo. ROFLMAO!!!

Through Nigerian ABRACADABRA Abracatabra the money go reach the hands of unemployed graduates, that is all you need to know.
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by spicyhoney(f): 7:55pm On Jun 04, 2010
Am sorry if I sound pessimistic, but it WONT WORK.

However, i give them kudos for even having the initiative but the funds would definitely be directed to a few selected 'pockets' and those who its really meant for, will end up not getting a dime from the scheme.

Too bad for our decayed system!
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by SapeleGuy: 9:40pm On Jun 04, 2010
Graduate dis graduate dat. Nah only graduate no get work?

There is already enough complacency in our soceity, we do not need a welfare state that will be abused by corruption and federal character.

It seems these 'Sinators' only know how to spend money they have not worked for.
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by Nobody: 10:42pm On Jun 04, 2010
have they got enough funds in the coffers to execute such policy,

surely jobless graduate numbers would easily clock up to millions or am I wrong.

not to talk of some greedy bastard who is gonna create 'ghost graduates' to embezzle gonernment funds. undecided
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by marvix(m): 1:06am On Jun 05, 2010
Are people really praying for this scheme Im disappointed.

These senators are the biggest disappointment the senate in 1999 would have made this country a better place if they had a presidency like that of Yaradua and Jonathan as against the oversabi Obj and thieving Atiku.

I have said it before we should concentrate on who we allow to represent us from our constituencies, these ones have a free hand but dont know what to use it for.
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by mamman4: 6:16am On Jun 05, 2010
The so called members of the national assembly, their words speak louder than their actions, may God help us,
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by donfade: 11:18am On Jun 05, 2010
The God of heaven should open their eyes and touch their heart on the truth to seek the growth of this country may they do things right for the first in our lives.(AMEN).
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by damilola15: 11:19am On Jun 05, 2010
lol another means for those people to steal our money.
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by Acidosis(m): 11:27am On Jun 05, 2010
What about the employed graduates than earn less than 8000 naira monthly.
This idea sounds good but it is impossible in Nigeria. So many employed ones will come forward to participate in the scheme.
That senator needs to re-think for something better
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by jokingmary(m): 11:27am On Jun 05, 2010
damilola15:

lol another means for those people to steal our money.

Exactly angry
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by 1Emmy: 11:42am On Jun 05, 2010
RE BRANDING NIGERIA, Naija go soon better. Thanks to my leaders in support of this.
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by martinosi: 11:46am On Jun 05, 2010
dumb move, they need to create investment, this will only breed an unneccessary
entitlement mentality in Nigeria
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by styles2009: 11:54am On Jun 05, 2010
First,It might hit the rock before it starts,please ask the dumb senators,How many Nigerians got a nationa ID card for identification?, we live in a country,where we don't even know,how many we are and they are talking of implementing such a huge project .

Wait till you see govt officials form up Ghost names to collect those funds for themselves, Good implementation but bad planning, lets get a Nigerian Data center,so we know, Who's a graduate and not or else,this is just another scheme for Top govt officials to enrich their pocket.

I would suggest, the senators approving a bill for Health insurance included in this, not just N15,000 for doing nothing
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by erico2k2(m): 12:04pm On Jun 05, 2010
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Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by yemi2005(m): 12:18pm On Jun 05, 2010
I can only belief this is real if it is implemented in no time, abeg stop fooling us
na today we dey hear sweet things that will never come to pass. as for me
I am waiting for implementation before i can know you are saying something.
cheers
sorry my fellow country men If i'm a bit rude.
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by davidif: 12:24pm On Jun 05, 2010
[size=28pt]NO TO SOCIALISM!!![/size]
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by daylae(m): 12:34pm On Jun 05, 2010
[b][color=#000099][/color][/b]now all roads go lead to abuja grin grin grin
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by sley4life(m): 12:40pm On Jun 05, 2010
Mere talk. I wish this can be implemented instead of making empty promises in the media
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by Nobody: 12:41pm On Jun 05, 2010
davidif:

[size=28pt]NO TO SOCIALISM!!![/size]
would have been better if there are available jobs to back it up!!!
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by sley4life(m): 12:44pm On Jun 05, 2010
we don't want any scheme. Let the fund be wired to our accounts every month. But many employed will claim unemployed. How will it work?
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by CarlosVent(m): 12:45pm On Jun 05, 2010
each Nigerian citizine should be paid 50,000 naira and then d unemployed 30k we hav more dan dis.
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by Redman44(m): 12:55pm On Jun 05, 2010
This thread is getting more interesting by the minute cool cool Giving money to unemployed graduates in Nigeria will result in a lot of fresh problems arising. Suddenly, the Oluwole Forgery Syndicate will start to blossom again [ It has been curtailed a bit by the activities of the EFCC and the thorough document verification methods used by the Embassies in Nigeria ] and fraudsters will start collecting cash that they are not entitled to cry cry  Innovation and industriousness will also be hampered as many Nigerian youths will just be waiting to collect their 15k at the end of the month. They might not think of using their talents and gifts to earn a living, and will be dependent on Government handouts.

Nigeria is not good at record keeping and data management. Is it easy to prove that someone is unemployed in Nigeria? We don't have NI or social security numbers like the UK or the US. In the UK, it is easy to track your employment history through your NI number. The UK authorities can find out if you're unemployed through your NI number. The Nigerian Government does not have database centres where information about people can be accessed. I see a situation where well paid Nigerian graduates [ Who are obviously working ] will be claiming the 15,000 Naira benefit sad sad sad  Some Nigerians might also become ingenious by collecting the monthly 15k under different names and in different sates. One person can be banking 150,000 Naira montly without being caught.

We will also be seeing a rise in irresponsibility and careless living among Nigerian youths. Personally, I've seen some of the negative effects of the benefits system in Britain. The UK Government is hiding some statistics and information from the people. The immigrants are the ones paying 45-55% of the money given out as benefits to people through taxes and NI contributions. In Britain, some families have not worked for generations and solely survive on all forms of benefits. Cancelling the benefits system will lead to a civil war in Britain. People have become so dependent on the state that they will become vicious if their benefits are taken away. Do we want to go the same way in Nigeria? Even with the databases in Britain, people are still playing the system shocked shocked shocked

Nigerians are naturally enterprising by nature. Let the Government fix the problems bedevilling the nation like lack of adequate electricity and solid healthcare, the bad educational system, bad roads etc first. It is after they've done this that they can start thinking of setting up a social system. Cheers.


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Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by xteve(m): 1:03pm On Jun 05, 2010
Do u knw d only earthquake in 9ja is bad leadership, it will soon come to a thing of d past.
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by ReachRich(m): 1:05pm On Jun 05, 2010
i Believe this will go a long way in helping our unemployed graduates solve some of their problems while still hunting for better jobs.For those of us calling on our government to invest this money in providing social amenities and creating jobs by building industries,this same government has not been able to do build industries and provied basic infrastructures despite the billions of naira we make tru export of crude oil.Paying N15k to unemployed graduates will not stop the governmnet from providing basic infrastructures like power etc.This country has the money to take care of such scheme.What would u say about the Fed Gov planning to spend N10b on the celebration of our 50th independence anniversary?What about paying repentant militants N65k?
I am in total support of the scheme.
Re: Senate Proposes N15,000 Monthly Salaries For Unemployed Graduates, Aged by MUNEER2(m): 1:10pm On Jun 05, 2010
Another castle in the air is taking form. . . This is Nigeria, don't forget that!

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