jomonic:
Yoruba and covetousness for power. Narratives have of late bombarded the internet about how Yoruba shall have the presidency after Buhari. This narrative comes coated in subtle deceit, that the Igbo lost their opportunity by not supporting APC. My own position is that the presidency of Nigeria must be open to all tribes. Yoruba was allowed to produce a candidate for presidency in 1999 in an arrangement where the flag bearer of the two major political parties were both Yoruba. The only way forward for Nigeria at this point in time is to replicate the 1999 scenario. If this is not done it will be better to restructure Nigeria or break up the country. I do not believe that my people can endure this relegation without challenging it. Nigerians should be wise.

So after every every, you still want the presidency of the zoo?

What happened to biafra or death?

So it wasn't about biafra after all?

In any case, why are you bothered about Yoruba and APC? Are you scared of PDP chances?

TMemos:
The Igbos need to determine what exactly they want. They pass out contradictory messages too much.

They say they want Biafra or nothing.

In this report, they are worried that Presidency may not come their way in 2023.

They say they don't need the Presidency to develop.

They say they don't want APC, that APC will lose in 2019 and yet are worried about APC's choice for the Presidency in 2023.

Confusion!

"" In this report, they are worried that Presidency may not come their way in 2023. ""

Wen did igbos say they are worried that presidency may not come their way in 2023

WisdomFlakes:
Igbos need to be pragmatic if truly they are serious about this presidency ambition. Power is not given. You don't just demand for power and have it given just like that, you must be ready and willing to negotiate for it from a position of strength -- that is what has often served the Northern bloc. Besides that, what are you bringing to the table? Igbos can't just demand for the presidency and expect other regions to just capitulate. They must be ready to bargain for it and carry others along in the process, while assuring that interests of other interested parties will be protected.

"" Igbos need to be pragmatic if truly they are serious about this presidency ambition.""

We never asked for presidency in 2023, We are not pragmatic about becoming president n we NEVER will.

We never called for 2023 presidency, But rather Buhari n APC started this useless talk which we aren't interested in. It was Buhari n APC that started pleading with igbos to give Buhari their votes in 2019 So that Buhari will hand over to an Igbo president in 2023.

Shukuakukobambi:


So after every every, you still want the presidency of the zoo?

What happened to biafra or death?

So it wasn't about biafra after all?

In any case, why are you bothered about Yoruba and APC? Are you scared of PDP chances?

You will do same if you were the one affected by the political wickedness in Nigeria.

Corrinthians:
Haba. Can we be honest with ourselves for once. Ndigbo hasn't played their cards well since 2015. They've refused to move on from Jonathan's defeat even when his very own kinsmen have. You don't gain political mileage by being needlessly antagonistic, you do by building alliances, making compromises, and building bridges.

The earliest Ndigbo can produce the country's president as we speak is 2031 and I believe they will. Saying anyone is surprised the SW will produce the president after Buhari's second term is just being plain dishonest.

In addition, given their posturing at the moment, if peradventure someone else from the North besides Buhari becomes the President, then it implies the earliest they'd produce president would be 2035 because I don't see such a candidate not going for a second term. All these (the likelihood of 2035) is ASSUMING a Vice President from the SE exists from 2023 - 2035.

There's also another angle. If Buhari isn't returned and a South Westerner is chosen as the vice just to counter balance the Osinbajo effect during the polls, then it implies power might go to SW after the fresh candidate from PDP does two terms, which means the SE would be looking at genuine chances from 2043!

These are the chances that exist given the nature of Nigerian politicospare.

It was Buhari n APC that started pleading with igbos to give Buhari their votes in 2019 So that Buhari will hand over to an Igbo president in 2023.

IGBOS never begged or demanded presidency in 2023 or any year at that.

jomonic:


You will do same if you were the one affected by the political wickedness in Nigeria.

So you're just realizing? Na now.your morning reach?

Corrinthians:
Haba. Can we be honest with ourselves for once. Ndigbo hasn't played their cards well since 2015. They've refused to move on from Jonathan's defeat even when his very own kinsmen have. You don't gain political mileage by being needlessly antagonistic, you do by building alliances, making compromises, and building bridges.

The earliest Ndigbo can produce the country's president as we speak is 2031 and I believe they will. Saying anyone is surprised the SW will produce the president after Buhari's second term is just being plain dishonest.

In addition, given their posturing at the moment, if peradventure someone else from the North besides Buhari becomes the President, then it implies the earliest they'd produce president would be 2035 because I don't see such a candidate not going for a second term. All these (the likelihood of 2035) is ASSUMING a Vice President from the SE exists from 2023 - 2035.

There's also another angle. If Buhari isn't returned and a South Westerner is chosen as the vice just to counter balance the Osinbajo effect during the polls, then it implies power might go to SW after the fresh candidate from PDP does two terms, which means the SE would be looking at genuine chances from 2043!

These are the chances that exist given the nature of Nigerian politicospare.

the baddest analyst.
cheers bro

Herdsmen:

Off point..
Meaning Useless trash...

That is why you are a "herdsman"...
You see what I mean?..... the insolence?

You cannot tolerate a different view.

Thank you and good bye.

Herdsmen:


They're so emotional.. fill with sentiments..
They keep shouting igbo president..like say Dem wan dey force the presidency on igbos..

Igboman want referendum..and has made it clear..
Even died for it..
But this humans go carry igbo presidency for head..you go know say na trap be that..

Funny ..any igbo president eh.. the way Dem go take blackmail the person..you go fear.. ahswear!

We no wan presidency..make the Southwest go contest and rotate between Dem ..

Don't understand all this presidency by force

At worst when Igbos realize that there is no place for them in the presidency, they'll abandon their voter cards and the North will continue to defeat the yorubas at the polls and run thr presidency till the country breaks, because nobody owes the yorubas anymore, the June 12 issue have been repaid with an OBJ yoruba presidency 'forced' on the country in 1999. If same can't be done for the East, the East should boycott and allow almajiris rule till the country breaks. There will NEVER be an elected yoruba president before an Igbo president. It will not happen. Discerning yorubas know this.

Shukuakukobambi:


So you're just realizing? Na now.your morning reach?

Stop being greedy for power. It will take the country no where. There should be inclusive development for the benefit of all Nigerians. We cant be doing thing the same way over time and expect a different outcome. I expect educated people all over Nigeria to canvass for progressive events and not for ones that foster ethnic divisions. Its most unconscionable that Yoruba can meditate presidency at this point in time. That is extreme case of greed taken too far. If you are scared of an Igbo presidency why not join the call for the restructuring of Nigeria so that who ever occupies the presidency his performance does not hinder any of the federating units.

PrecisionFx:






It was Buhari n APC that started pleading with igbos to give Buhari their votes in 2019 So that Buhari will hand over to an Igbo president in 2023.

IGBOS never begged or demanded presidency in 2023 or any year at that.

Ok.

Your elder statesman, Mbazulike Amechi said this, not me.

“In my own point of view, which is the general point of view, Buhari should be contented with one tenure. He should not contest in 2019. Somebody from the North should contest for the remaining second tenure to enable the North serve out two tenures.

Then after that somebody from Igbo land should contest for the presidency in 2023 and should be supported to become the president. Equity, justice and fairness demand that.

Also, check out what's below.

So, please tell me, what did you say?

jomonic:


Stop being greedy for power. It will take the country no where. There should be inclusive development for the benefit of all Nigerians. We cant be doing thing the same way over time and expect a different outcome. I expect educated people all over Nigeria to canvass for progressive events and not for ones that foster ethnic divisions. Its most unconscionable that Yoruba can meditate presidency at this point in time. That is extreme case of greed taken too far. If you are scared of an Igbo presidency why not join the call for the restructuring of Nigeria so that who ever occupies the presidency his performance does not hinder any of the federating units.

Did you have this same 'righteous anger' when one idiotic albino hunchback was insulting the Yoruba and Fulani including pastors like Kumuyi?

Did you speak up when this same idiot was threatening fire and brimstone on the country he called a zoo?

Did you speak up like this when he and others were burning bridges all over the place?

Have you asked Wike to drop his own ambition in your interest?

Corrinthians:
Ok.

Receive sense.

http://saharareporters.com/2018/04/11/support-buhari-second-term-get-presidency-2023-sgf-tells-igbo

PrecisionFx:



Receive sense.

http://saharareporters.com/2018/04/11/support-buhari-second-term-get-presidency-2023-sgf-tells-igbo

That is not the point.

I didn't say the presidency hasn't tried to woo Igbos, you claimed your people HAVE NEVER DEMANDED for it, and I presented you with hard proofs they have. Does it then mean you were plain ignorant or you just deliberately lied?

Corrinthians:
That is not the point.

I didn't say the presidency hasn't tried to woo Igbos, you claimed your people HAVE NEVER DEMANDED for it, and I presented you with hard proofs they have. Does it then mean you were plain ignorant or you just deliberately lied?

"" I didn't say the presidency hasn't tried to woo Igbos, you claimed your people HAVE NEVER DEMANDED for it, ""

It's quite stupid to cite one man's opinion n use it to impose that igbos are asking begging or demanding for presidency, It's the height of Silidity.

Read this thread here n read thousands of similar threads on nairaland political section n u will see thousands of igbos speaking in unison that they aren't interested on presidency.

Don't u just get it? We simply don't care, open it thick coconut skull let it enter, WE DONT FUCKING CARE. WE ARE THE PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN.

topeayan:
They should contest on the Platform of PDP in 2023 or PDP is not also ready to give them ni. If u want the ticket on the platform of APC join and vote for them massively so that u can be part of decision making

Simple as A, B,C. You said it all. Politics is not about hatred, it's about building bridges, but to some from the other side, it's a case of bad blood. The 2015 elections have come and gone, even the SS has moved on but to some from the other side, it's has been a case of do or die. In as much as I will want the SE to produce the president come 2023. It shouldn't be given to them on a platter of gold, they need to align with other tribes and do away with the tribal sentiment built in them .

They love the PDP, they can go and look for their presidency there, period.

Corrinthians:
Ok.

Your elder statesman, Mbazulike Amechi said this, not me.
Also, check out what's below.

So, please tell me, what did you say?

Kindly ignore that lad.He is full of confusion. Today, they claim they are the developer of Nigeria, tomorrow they cry of marginalisation. Today, they want Biafra, tomorrow it's leferendum or death, Eke market day, It's Presidency or zoo will burn.

Why should Tinubu or anyone else in APC forgo their constitutional right in APC for igbos that made it clear from day one that APC and Buhari are anathema and a taboo in igboland?

Tinubu founded the party with some people , risked and staked his political life and gave so many things for the party to survive, now some usurpers want to come and use some form of pseudo morality and guilt trippping against him

It will never work ! If igbos want Presidency, then they should work for it

Wiseandtrue:
Conduct referendum for the Ndigbo first!

If they decided to remain then you can now talk of Igbo presidency!

Who is the Igbo slave / conductor that will conduct referendum for the Igbos ? What is wrong with your Igbotic brain that you can not conduct it yourself ?

Shukuakukobambi:


Did you have this same 'righteous anger' when one idiotic albino hunchback was insulting the Yoruba and Fulani including pastors like Kumuyi?

Did you speak up when this same idiot was threatening fire and brimstone on the country he called a zoo?

Did you speak up like this when he and others were burning bridges all over the place?

Have you asked Wike to drop his own ambition in your interest?

You reply with so much anger. Why do you expect a special intervention from me or anyone else on behalf of Kanu. Does he not have right just as you to air his opinion. People on your side have done, said, still saying worse things about us and the heavens have not cracked. You people are so steeped in arrogant self-importance. Please come off it.

Worried for what ?You think because both Apc and PDP zone the presidency to east then other Nigerians will be forced to vote Apc or PDP. There are other parties with candidates from other zones to vote for as well. You got to endear yourself to Nigerian first to get voted. Nigerians will have to be comfortable with you to decide to vote for you. The task is on you to attract them but a situation you keep having " we want Biafra" , "Igbo presidency " and things like that will make that attraction difficult. You can't force others you have to be diplomatic and this take quiet a bit of time for Nigerians to get convinced.

jomonic:


Stop being greedy for power. It will take the country no where. There should be inclusive development for the benefit of all Nigerians. We cant be doing thing the same way over time and expect a different outcome. I expect educated people all over Nigeria to canvass for progressive events and not for ones that foster ethnic divisions. Its most unconscionable that Yoruba can meditate presidency at this point in time. That is extreme case of greed taken too far. If you are scared of an Igbo presidency why not join the call for the restructuring of Nigeria so that who ever occupies the presidency his performance does not hinder any of the federating units.

What you failed to realize is that greed for power is the fuel of every politician.
Power is never given on a platter of gold, even in 1999, Alex Ekwueme contested the PDP primary with OBJ, so it's not as if every other tribe stepped down for the West. The recent PDP chairmanship election that produced Uche Secondus has cemented the fact that there is nothing like Micro Zoning in Nigeria political landscape, despite the Yoruba's laying claim to the chair (as the only region yet to produce the pdp chairman) , Wike and co were blatant in making it known to the Yorubas that they have little or no investment in PDP hence they can't be the chairman.
Also PDP recently made it known that they are zoning their presidency ticket to the whole north and no micro zoning despite 100's of tribe domicile in the north.
In the same vein, SE invested little or nothing in the APC, igbos hatred for APC is well known, it's called fulani/yoruba party. Clamoring for igbo presidency under the platform of APC is simply trying to reap where you did not sow, which is injustice to those who have laboured to make APC what it's today.
Trying to blackmail everyone with secession is a stale/casted logic.
Power isn't serve on a platter of gold, you work for it.

jomonic:


You reply with so much anger. Why do you expect a special intervention from me or anyone else on behalf of Kanu. Does he not have right just as you to air his opinion. People on your side have done, said, still saying worse things about us and the heavens have not cracked. You people are so steeped in arrogant self-importance. Please come off it.

I'm replying you with humor and honesty.

Don't expect anything because no one owes you anything. Stop appealing to a morality you don't have and have sneered at on numerous occasions.

If kanu had a right to air his hatred, why are you having a fit because I'm telling you the plain truth?

Afamed:

Simple as A, B,C. You said it all. Politics is not about hatred, it's about building bridges, but to some from the other side, it's a case of bad blood. The 2015 elections have come and gone, even the SS has moved on but to some from the other side, it's has been a case of do or die. In as much as I will want the SE to produce the president come 2023. It shouldn't be given to them on a platter of gold, they need to align with other tribes and do away with the tribal sentiment built in them .

The matter tire me bro. Even the SS who own GEJ have moved on.

Even GEJ himself has moved on but na attachee wan die on the matter. It makes you start to wonder what sinister and selfish plan they had for GEJ 2nd term that has stopped them from moving on

PrecisionFx:



"" I didn't say the presidency hasn't tried to woo Igbos, you claimed your people HAVE NEVER DEMANDED for it, ""

It's quite stupid to cite one man's opinion n use it to impose that igbos are asking begging or demanding for presidency, It's the height of Silidity.

Read this thread here n read thousands of similar threads on nairaland political section n u will see thousands of igbos speaking in unison that they aren't interested on presidency.

Don't u just get it? We simply don't care, open it thick coconut skull let it enter, WE DONT FUCKING CARE. WE ARE THE PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN.

Use the same Brian you used to analyse my comment to analyse yours. You said only one man said so, tell me, are you ten men? Or, let me guess, you gathered ALL Igbos together and they made you their spokesperson and asked you to tell us these, right?

Mtscheeew.

Your opinion doesn't even matter, and I know you know it. All you can do is rant and rave and curse on the internet.

Shukuakukobambi:


You particularly almost deadened our ears with your biafra or death chants. You shouted to the high heavens about how Nigeria is a zoo and northerners are illiterates you shouldn't have anything to do with.

What then is your business with the zoo? Why are you bothered about the Islamic party called APC?

Will you still partner with gworo chewing mallams all because of presidency of the zoo?

Ain't you worried and ashamed of your lack of consistency?

We told you guys that we are tired of Nigeria. Rather than respect our desire, you sent python dance. Based on this, you will either give us our right (presidency) or Biafra.

EternalTruths:



We told you guys that we are tired of Nigeria. Rather than respect our desire, you sent python dance. Based on this, you will either give us our right (presidency) or Biafra.

Oh, so you're not tired of Nigeria? So you want the presidency of the zoo from an Islamic and ewedu party?

Ok o

Shukuakukobambi:


I just tire

You said APC is an Islamic party alien to your Christian region

You say your destiny is PDP

You say you're not interested in Nigerian presidency because it's a zoo

You say APC will not get a single vote in biafra in 2019

You said APC will lose elections and scatter in 2019

You swear buhari is going back to Daura in 2019

Yet, inspite of all these, you're still bothered that APC might not give you ticket in 2019

What kind of confusion, childishness, greed is this? Why bother about what APC will do in 2023 when you swear it will cease to exist in 2019?

Have they lost hope in a PDP victory or is their CUPP of confusion already leaking?

u said and i quote: Have they lost hope in a PDP victory or is their CUPP of confusion already leaking?

unfortunately, u didn't get d whole mark, d confusion cupp is not only leaking but also scattering.......

PVision2020:

What you failed to realize is that greed for power is the fuel of every politician.
Power is never given on a platter of gold, even in 1999, Alex Ekwueme contested the PDP primary with OBJ, so it's not as if every other tribe stepped down for the West. The recent PDP chairmanship election that produced Uche Secondus has cemented the fact that there is nothing like Micro Zoning in Nigeria political landscape, despite the Yoruba's laying claim to the chair (as the only region yet to produce the pdp chairman) , Wike and co were blatant in making it known to the Yorubas that they have little or no investment in PDP hence they can't be the chairman.
Also PDP recently made it known that they are zoning their presidency ticket to the whole north and no micro zoning despite 100's of tribe domicile in the north.
In the same vein, SE invested little or nothing in the APC, igbos hatred for APC is well known, it's called fulani/yoruba party. Clamoring for igbo presidency under the platform of APC is simply trying to reap where you did not sow, which is injustice to those who have laboured to make APC what it's today.
Trying to blackmail everyone with secession is a stale/casted logic.
Power isn't serve on a platter of gold, you work for it.

LOL

Humblega:


u said and i quote: Have they lost hope in a PDP victory or is their CUPP of confusion already leaking?

unfortunately, u didn't get d whole mark, d confusion cupp is not only leaking but also scattering.......

Na gbege Dem dey be dat