ShiaMuslim:

note that those Ashura pictures are old.

hymen:

How can you say they are old clips? Did you bother to watch the CNN clip ? http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2010/12/17/damon.lebanon.ashoura.cnn?iref=allsearch

I can see you spent many hours scouring the internet for pictures of people crucifying themselves

For your information,Jesus is no longer on the cross. , .he is risen as confirmed by the Qu'ran. So anybody crucifying him/herself is like you say on their own. Having said that you can't compare the demonic bloodletting to your Shia brethren anyway


The reason I brought the bloody aspects of Ashoora up is because you called my faith a 'cult' ,'blood sucker' etc.

Honestly, the moment you started this thread,I thought you were one of those intelligent and reflective muslims (like LagosBoy ),who never decended to name -calling like the numerous semi-literate religious bigots on NL (e.g Abuzola ),but you have proven yourself to be just that(the latter) .

With your gutter language, I call to question your depth of knowledge & honestly have no confidence in all you have been posting. You probably just cut and paste from a Shia site without making any sense of it.

Learn from Hussain - don't fight back . . . God /posterity should vindicate you.

A word as they say is enough for the wise.

Abu-Safwan:

AH! The Pictures I can see are they really true or are just taken from a Hollywood? Don't forget Hussain really knew and witnessed that his Father, Sayyid Aliyu was brutally assassinated and yet, he did not innovate the custom of injuring and maiming his body. If Hussain were to come back today to and observe howthese people are injuring and cutting thier bodies just to mourn his assassination at Karbala he would fight them if they refused to abstain.

LagosShia:

We cry for Hussain, so did the Prophet of Islam:

http://www.al-islam.org/we-cry-for-Hussain/

LagosShia:

MORE PICTURES FROM ZARIA,KADUNA STATE,NIGERIA, ASHURA:COMMEMORATING IMAM HUSSAIN'S MATYRDOM 1432 AH/2010AD

illusion2:

Is this Imam Hussain live in Ghana ?

isale_gan2:

Salaam Aleikum, LagosShia,
I don't think you should be posting pictures of those girls' faces. Unless they consented to having their images used on Nairaland. I'm sure you know the nonsense that goes on here and how innocent peoples' images are misused. Just my opinion.

LagosShia:

Thank you brother for the advice.may Allah reward you.

just to point out,similarly i got those pictures from the web.and i only used them as intended for taking them during the occassion of Ashura.so if anyone misuse them,Allah is our witness and judge.

isale_gan2:

All right. I accept your answer. I just wouldn't do it myself. But thanks for your response.

Welcome!

I wanted to ask you something else. I don't want to put on your head the responsibility of defending every Shia in the world and everything about it, but you seem to have chosen that for yourself.

Lol
I am not responsible for the actions of each individual.i am only propagating my beliefs.

Why does Shia accept temporary marraige? Nikkah Muta or any other? Do you think it benefits the woman and man equally? Is it being discouraged or is it growing? What kind of people are more likely to practise it? You can answer any time. Salaam.

(Also, I do not wish to mislead you or anyone. I am a sister. I just don't want to provide too much personal info in my profile.)

1.Why does shia accept temporary marriage?

Answer: the Prophet and the companions deemed it legal and Islam permits it.temporary marriage is called “nikah muta” or simply mut’a.it is recored that mut’a was performed even after the Prophet’s death and right into the time of Abu Bakr’s rule.it was during Umar’s rule that he banned.

2.)do you think it benefits the woman and man equally?

Answer:when practiced properly and for the right reasons and with the good intention and fear of God,yes it serves them equally.ofcourse no one will force anyone to do mut’a and there are conditions for such a marriage to be conducted and permitted.if those conditions are not met,then the marriage is void.the conditions are to protect the individuals involved.

3.)Is it being discouraged or is it growing?

Answer:it cannot be discouraged.accordingly,discouraging mut’a would be like discouraging any other act that is permitted in Islam like salat.we cannot discourage what the religion has allowed.ofcourse in the case of mut’a,it is not obligatory to perform it.but if you decide to do,there is no sin in it and it is allowed but must be performed properly and for the right reasons and caution must be taken.

On the question if it is growing,I do not honestly know because I don’t have facts and figures.

4.) What kind of people are more likely to practise it?

Answer:anyone can perform mut’a.widows,the youth and the divorced are more likely to perform mut’a and more reasonable if they do.

You can read more about mut’a marriage,here:

http://www.al-islam.org/search.php?selected_tab=&having=950604&cat=0&sid=858479772

isale_gan2:

All right. I accept your answer. I just wouldn't do it myself. But thanks for your response.

I wanted to ask you something else. I don't want to put on your head the responsibility of defending every Shia in the world and everything about it, but you seem to have chosen that for yourself.

Why does Shia accept temporary marraige? Nikkah Muta or any other? Do you think it benefits the woman and man equally? Is it being discouraged or is it growing? What kind of people are more likely to practise it? You can answer any time. Salaam.

(Also, I do not wish to mislead you or anyone. I am a sister. I just don't want to provide too much personal info in my profile.)

isale_gan2:

All right.  I accept your answer.  I just wouldn't do it myself.  But thanks for your response. 

I wanted to ask you something else.  I don't want to put on your head the responsibility of defending every Shia in the world and everything about it, but you seem to have chosen that for yourself taken on that role, at least on this forum. 

Why does Shia accept temporary marriage?  Nikkah Muta or any other?  Do you think it benefits the woman and man equally?  Is it being discouraged or is it growing?  What kind of people are more likely to practise it?  You can answer any time.  Salaam.

(Also, I do not wish to mislead you or anyone.  I am a sister.  I just don't want to provide too much personal info in my profile.)

LagosShia:

Lol
I am not responsible for the actions of each individual.i am only propagating my beliefs.

1.Why does shia accept temporary marriage?

Answer: the Prophet and the companions deemed it legal and Islam permits it.temporary marriage is called “nikah muta” or simply mut’a.it is recored that mut’a was performed even after the Prophet’s death and right into the time of Abu Bakr’s rule.it was during Umar’s rule that he banned.

2.)do you think it benefits the woman and man equally?

Answer:when practiced properly and for the right reasons and with the good intention and fear of God,yes it serves them equally.ofcourse no one will force anyone to do mut’a and there are conditions for such a marriage to be conducted and permitted.if those conditions are not met,then the marriage is void.the conditions are to protect the individuals involved.

3.)Is it being discouraged or is it growing?

Answer:it cannot be discouraged.accordingly,discouraging mut’a would be like discouraging any other act that is permitted in Islam like salat.we cannot discourage what the religion has allowed.ofcourse in the case of mut’a,it is not obligatory to perform it.but if you decide to do,there is no sin in it and it is allowed but must be performed properly and for the right reasons and caution must be taken.

On the question if it is growing,I do not honestly know because I don’t have facts and figures.

4.) What kind of people are more likely to practise it?

Answer:anyone can perform mut’a.widows,the youth and the divorced are more likely to perform mut’a and more reasonable if they do.

You can read more about mut’a marriage,here:

http://www.al-islam.org/search.php?selected_tab=&having=950604&cat=0&sid=858479772

LagosShia:

Dear sister,

i have replied you severally with different ID's as my ID'S got banned temporarily one after the other (each time i posted that reply to you).you can check my profile @ "LagosShia" and view my posts.you will see the reply to your post there:

here is a copy of the reply in quote:

LagosShia:

First of all let me say that the article is from the perspective of a westerner.and for the west,anything islam is like venom.they never see good in it.if a muslim holds a knife to cut onions,they will only understand that the knife can be used to kill.their women would rather be sleeping every night with a different man than for them to be in a temporary which has Iddah period (waiting period before a woman can re-marry) and that period would by far make the number of ba$tards (and those who dont know their fathers) less in the society.let me just state a few points from what I read in the article that I don’t agree with:

1.) Temporary marriage is not a loophole in the islamic system of iran.and those that violate any part of it could be punished.temporary marriage as the article rightly cited,existed in the days of the Prophet.
2.) Temporary marriage should not only be seen as a way of satisfying the sexual urge.
3.) The saying that “many iranians regard temporary marriage as little more than legalized prostitution” is silly.that is a lay man’s view.if a woman is not a virgin (divorced) and wants to satisfy her urge or her loneliness doing it in a legal way is not a bad thing.
4.) The article concentrates much on the sex side of the marriage than other factors and outcomes and benefits.
5.) No one forces anyone to do temporary marriage.but it is the sad part of reality that women do exist who like men are sexuallly active and are not virgins and they need men.no one is saying virgins should do it or those who can abstain should be forced to do it.no one is saying that.but for those who cant,there is a proper way to do it within a marriage setting and with a legal agreement with each individual knowing his or her rights and limits with certain conditions and obligations that must be observed.

Sweetnecta:

@LagosShia: No father will want his daughter for a muta marriage. Definitely no believer will want something like that.

Surah Nisaa verse 25 makes sure it should not be so. So are many other verses of many other surahs. All marriages should be with the intention of forever on this earth. Anything less than that is forbidden and it is deceitful.