Fabregas: Arsenal scared of losing

"This championship remains very open,'' he said. ''Don't forget that we have played at United, at City, at Chelsea and at Liverpool, so we are in a strong position. Now the rest of the season will be decided on how much we've learned, how much we improve and how much confidence we can take from our performances so far."
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/855840?cc=5739

@cougar. Mr TA, Dayo, et al. . .The above quote are Wenger's words not mine, If Wenger who coaches the game can afford to grant City alongside other top EPL clubs the acolade of being a big club which Arsenal have so far played this season then I think you lot should reconsider your position of this Big Club thingy as regards City and Spurs (who won against Arsenal at the Emirates). They've got the money, the coaches, the players with the right strength and mentality; these are what matters most when two teams who are challenging for the title play against each other - A BIG GAME . . .The coaches, media, commentators and other fans believe City and Spurs are Title Contenders and Big Clubs now, so deal with it guys and move on. Nuff Said!

And in other news, Nasri is still yapping about United - Is he not supposed to be worrying about his trophiless "football training center" The Boy's gat issues . . .
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/855910?cc=5739

@mojounited,
You're misrepresenting issues.
Arsene Wenger says he blames the pitch for Arsenal's loss on Monday
Therefore,because he is Arsene Wenger,his opinion is always correct.

That doesn't fly with me,bro.

Slight change in question.

Is Man City V Arsenal as big as Man utd V Arsenal? As simple yes or no answer will suffice.

Mr_TA:

Slight change in question.

Is Man City V Arsenal as big as Man utd V Arsenal? As simple yes or no answer will suffice.

HELL NAW. . .
Please change topic abeg

Before a team can be considered BIG they must have been consistent for a long while.

Thank you.

dayokanu:

Before a team can be considered BIG they must have been consistent for a long while.

Spot on,Munich-man.The thing people failed to see.
I'm surprised some Mancs can vouch for Arsenal vs City being a big game.
How can a team whose best finish is 5th in the last 19 seasons of the EPL lay any kind of claim to being a big team all because they are buying?
A team with no history,and all of a sudden,you label them contenders.

Everton was fourth some seasons back then we can say they are a Big team also

Big games and big clubs are two different issues.Of course with City's new spending power cum players they have on parade,any game they are involved in can be tagged a big game,especially when it is against the traditional BIG 4.Are they a big club in the real sense of it?NO!(Real sense being a club with history and tradition).But are they a "big" and good enough team to cause upset presently?I say yes.They need to strive for the consistency to attain the tag of a "big club".

mojounited:

And in other news, Nasri is still yapping about United - Is he not supposed to be worrying about his trophiless "football training center" The Boy's gat issues . . .
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/855910?cc=5739

No mind the yeye boy. . . .

Make una dey here dey form big boy, Objects in your mirror are closer than they appear. If Sheikh Monsuru is allowed to keep on pumping money into the club as they've been doing this past 2 years, at some point they would have a strong enough team fo win the league, whether they would be able to sustain it for any reasonable period though is a different matter entirely.

The question here isnt whether City are a big club or not, nor whether games against City are as big as United, Chelsea or Arsenal.

It's simply a question of whether games between City and the top three are "big". And considering:

A. The managers and players of the top three clubs have ALL conceded games against City are big

B. When Chelsea, United & Arsenal go to the City of Manchester Stadium, they are NOT favorites to win

C. City have the ability to compete for the very same thing the top three are competing for

D. City probably have as good a squad as the top three


. . . Only a simpleton of the highest caliber would say City vs Arsenal/United/Chelsea is not a big game.

As long as you conceed a game City and Arsenal/Chelsea/Man utd is not as big as a game between Man utd/Arsenal/Chelsea and Arsenal/Chelsea/Man utd. Its all good.

Mr_TA:

As long as you conceed a game City and Arsenal/Chelsea/Man utd is not as big as a game between Man utd/Arsenal/Chelsea and Arsenal/Chelsea/Man utd. Its all good.

you kind of nailed it with this theory. the term "big game" is relative. since the pro-city group cannot categorically state a match between man utd and chelsea has the same calibre of arsenal and man city then we should just squash this argument. there are the big games and there are b.i.g. games.

Top by Christmas, 2 games in hand. half way there.

man city are small time.

cou-gar:

man city are small time.

City had the chance to got top for the first time in 81YEARS!!!.
And you folks want me to believe that is a big club.
No matter what submissions you make in favour of City,they still have this small-club wanting to get big by all means mentality.

cou-gar:

you kind of nailed it with this theory. the term "big game" is relative. since the pro-city group cannot categorically state a match between man utd and chelsea has the same calibre of arsenal and man city then we should just squash this argument. there are the big games and there are b.i.g. games.

It should be the end-of-discussion,but trust the frost-bitten brains arguing in favour of City/Arsenal being a big game are still yapping.Yet their captain says they don't win their big games.Meaning he doesn't figure City as a big team. . .even tkb is making issues out of nothing. . .

@Cougar, TA and Starboard

There are big games and there are big games. That point I agree

@starboard
Making issues out of nothing? How?

Hell no

Can we discuss somethn else?

Rio is really fuming on twitter on the postponed match between us and Chelsea

Is it true Anderson/Vidic woulda missed d match? Hahaha. Na wahala be dt oh.

I just hope we can win that match anytime its played cos its really gonna make us widen the gap between and those pretenders!

We are playing Blackpool in January! Good

Sunderland are here again!!!! I'm scared mehn cos we need 3 points this weekend cos Arsenal and Chelsea might end draw! We must give our best and beat Sunderland. Ill take a one goal victory

@Starboard
I just read some of your posts

Did I ever call City a big club?

I wasn't gonna be dragged into the big club debate. My arguments are solely the big game discussions we are having.

@Kay Pumping and Ritchie

Ur posts make sense!

Abeg let's discuss another thing abeg

I don tire

tkb417:

@Starboard
I just read some of your posts
[b]Did I ever call City a big club?[/b]I wasn't gonna be dragged into the big club debate. My arguments are solely the big game discussions we are having.

So how do they get into big games?

tkb417:

Rio is really fuming on twitter on the postponed match between us and Chelsea

Is it true Anderson/Vidic woulda missed d match? Hahaha. Na wahala be dt oh.

I just hope we can win that match anytime its played cos its really gonna make us widen the gap between and those pretenders!

We are playing Blackpool in January! Good

Sunderland are here again!!!! I'm scared mehn cos we need 3 points this weekend cos Arsenal and Chelsea might end draw! We must give our best and beat Sunderland. Ill take a one goal victory

rio has a right to fume cos chelsea got out of jail with that postponement. against sunderland, we must start two strikers. sunderland won't have welbeck so they will be limited going forward. berba and rooney must start. carrick/fletcher. . . . .nani and js park on the wing and the famous four at the back. 4-4-2 is the way to go. we will beat sunderland 2-0. we are not chelsea!

@Cougar
I can't see Ando in ur list! Is he not fit? He shd be there cos Scholes is out

I agree with you, 2 strikers against Sunderland will be ideal for us: but even without Welbeck, they have Bent and Gyan.

You know what Vidic and Rio are the best in the bizniz so I'm not scared of even a Messi/Torres combo

If we can keep possession and attack dem, we'll kill dem

@starboard
A big game is a game where d 2 teams are evenly matched are both are title contenders!

tkb417:

@starboard
A big game is a game where d 2 teams are evenly matched are both are title contenders!

And I say City cannot be termed title contenders.Their spending power has brought them almost nothing.A dumb coach and overpaid players wont win anything.A chance to state their title credentials yesterday,and they blew it,losing to a team who played with 10 men for over 30 mins at home.Tell me if that is contendership form.

tkb417:

@starboard
A big game is a game where d 2 teams are evenly matched are both are title contenders!

No mention about the history between the two sides involved?Has Man City/Arsenal ever been a title decider or has there been any other thing apart from being "contenders" to add spice to the game?Bragging rights?
Kindly educate me on what a big game is.

tkb417:

@Cougar
I can't see Ando in your list! Is he not fit? He shd be there cos Scholes is out

I agree with you, 2 strikers against Sunderland will be ideal for us: but even without Welbeck, they have Bent and Gyan.

You know what Vidic and Rio are the best in the bizniz so I'm not scared of even a Messi/Torres combo

If we can keep possession and attack dem, we'll kill dem

any two of carrick + ando + fletcher should be good enough for sunderland.
meanwhile, what's your mid-term report on the league. can you name your team of the season's first half?

mine will be. . . .

cech

rafael rio vidic baines

nani tiote modric  bale

van der vaart
                  andy caroll

^^
Gawd!! See Beef. You wont put Nasri on that team? Stop being a girl,sharon.

tkb417:


A big game is a game where d 2 teams are appear evenly matched are both are title contenders! on paper

I think both spurs and citeh have now earned the right to be considered as "big teams" ----- for me the strength and potential of the current squad is all that matters ----- history, stats, tradition; are all just there for reference!

@Cougar

Mine is this

Goalie - Hart

RB- Ivanovic
LB- Ashley Cole
CB- Vidic
CB - Rio Ferdinand

RW- Nani
LW- Bale
CM - Van Der Vart
CM - Nasri

CF- Carrol
CF- Tevez

Coach- Owen Coyle

Lol

@starboard
Read what Ruudie just posted

I don tire

Gunners celebrating Emirates Cup

u guys shld drop dis topic jorr
@tkb417 replace hart - cech
ivanovic-rafael
cole-baines
meanwhile looks kik benitez has been sacked

dipo2much:

^^
Gawd!! See Beef. You wont put Nasri on that team? Stop being a girl,sharon.

stop being a lunkhead. nani and bale have been better than nasri this first half of the season.