Akhenaten:

I disagree on the point. Democracy has not worked in Nigeria, because many groups do not have a fair representation in government. Just look at the minorities that inhabit Nigeria. They should be given much more power or their voices will never be heard.

It wasn't because of the expansionist powers that existed during pre-colonial times.

It was because the major ethnic dominated even till today .''WAZOBIA'' should come to your mind by now because the political formation of nigeria centred around the major ethnic apart from benin.
The first people to make contact with the europeans were urhobo and itsekiri.where are the today in nigeria politics ? Maybe they lost their balance in history !
democracy was not introduce to us but  imposed through british hegemony.we had no choice but to use a system that was not fundamental in the cultural background of the individual group that made up Nigeria.

oyb:

yawn. . .another ndigbo is the master tribe thread  

Maybe if you actually took time to read the post, you would not make such an ignorant statement. And if you knew the OP, you would know he is a Pan-Africanist of the highest order.

~Bluetooth:

It was because the major ethnic dominated even till today .''WAZOBIA'' should come to your mind by now because the political formation of nigeria centred around the major ethnic apart from benin.
The first people to make contact with the europeans were urhobo and itsekiri.where are the today in nigeria politics ? Maybe they lost their balance in history !
democracy was not introduce to us but  imposed through british hegemony.we had no choice but to use a system that was not fundamental in the cultural background of the individual group that made up Nigeria.

I agree with you for most of your post. Another great illustration my brother. However, the British imposed a lot on the people of Nigeria. They didn't haven to impose a democracy on the Igbo, as they already noted that the Igbos had a democracy before their arrival.

But they did impose the dreaded warrant chiefs, in order to rule over us more efficiently.

@Akhaeneten,

Africa must unite? why; against who; and how does African unity affect the price of fish at Abule Egba?

When was the last time Guinea Bissau threaten to invade Nigeria. A polite nod to our neighbours through those wasteful regional/continental (ecowas; au) quangos is enough.

We want development! Enough about zero-sum pursuit of continental unity.

And why go back to the cultural section. Dont you like a proper debate where people support & oppose your views as they see fit? Pls come back!

Kobojunkie:

Reading the end half of the title is not where it ends. You actually were supposed to at least glance through the contents to read what it has to say of the Ibo culture.

So what point exactly were you trying to make with your link?

Missy85:

@Akhaeneten,

Africa must unite? why; against who; and how does African unity affect the price of fish at Abule Egba?

When was the last time Guinea Bissau threaten to invade Nigeria. A polite nod to our neighbours through those wasteful regional quangos is enough.

We want development! Enough about zero-sum pursuit of continental unity.

And why go back to the cultural section. Dont you like a proper debate where people support & oppose your views as they see fit? Pls come back!

good one

@op

if u really want unity, [size=15pt]drop your culture and tradition and learn yoruba or hausa then we will gradually be uniting because the ethnic boundary is broken

i have learnt hausa as my culture and language

i have also started learning igbo and yoruba languge

so you also should do the same [/size]

alj harem:

good one

@op

if u really want unity,]drop your culture and tradition and learn yoruba or hausa then we will gradually be uniting because the ethnic boundary is broken

i have learnt hausa as my culture and language

i have also started learning igbo and yoruba languge

so you also should do the same

I like this guy!!

alj harem:

good one

@op

if u really want unity, [size=15pt]drop your culture and tradition and learn yoruba or hausa then we will gradually be uniting because the ethnic boundary is broken

i have learnt hausa as my culture and language

i have also started learning igbo and yoruba languge

so you also should do the same [/size]

Good. Kanuri is almost an extinct language anyway.I hear they only use it to train dogs now.

Ola edo:

Good. Kanuri is almost an extinct language anyway.I hear they alone use it to train dogs now.

just like they use igbo loanguage to train dogs

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-568941.0.html

alj harem:

just like they use igbo loanguage to train dogs

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-568941.0.html

So now they use 2 of ur languages to train dogs.

jason,

Harem's certainly a smooth talker,, prob one of those who say more than he can deliver.

A lovable rogue I suspect

Ola edo:

So now they use 2 of your languages to train dogs.

you are also ibo

Ola edo:

Good. Kanuri is almost an extinct language anyway.I hear they alone use it to train dogs now.

alj harem:

just like they use igbo loanguage to train dogs

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-568941.0.html

Ola edo:

So now they use 2 of your languages to train dogs.

LOL

Missy85:

jason,

Harem's certainly a smooth talker,, prob one of those who say more than he can deliver.

A lovable rogue I suspect

Are you a psychologist? You have been analysing people's character on nl

Stay on topic and stop ruining my thread por favor.

harem, just as i thought you rarely respond to insults, you rubbished igbo language. Disapppointed!

Thank you for the illustration. In my village, when an Igwe dies in my village, the chieftancy is passed to another family and so forth and so forth. That allows each family the ability to speak on behalf of the village.


Sounds like local zoning, which I doubt is the best way for democracy. Well, are there good things to be learned? Yes! But again its not a perfect system since some villages still fight over Igwe stool. What I believe is whatever system we have must be measured by the success it brings to the community and how we can translate it to the normal local and state government.

Akhenaten:

Stay on topic and stop ruining my thread por favor.

i think igbos can learn from other nigerians instead of the other way around

but all in all, others too can learn from us igbos

Missy85:

harem, just as i thought you rarely respond to insults, you rubbished igbo language. Disapppointed!

what do you mean, can you clarify that

kcjazz:

Sounds like local zoning, which I doubt is the best way for democracy. Well, are there good things to be learned? Yes! But again its not a perfect system since some villages still fight over Igwe stool. What I believe is whatever system we have must be measured by the success it brings to the community and how we can translate it to the normal local and state government.

Well said!!!

kcjazz:

Thank you for the illustration. In my village, when an Igwe dies in my village, the chieftancy is passed to another family and so forth and so forth. That allows each family the ability to speak on behalf of the village.


Sounds like local zoning, which I doubt is the best way for democracy. Well, are there good things to be learned? Yes! But again its not a perfect system since some villages still fight over Igwe stool. What I believe is whatever system we have must be measured by the success it brings to the community and how we can translate it to the normal local and state government.

No system is perfect. That is why societies continue to evolve. Some societies are good at borrowing from others to improve their own societies. We Igbos used to be like that, in which in my region, we borrowed many cultural aspects from the Ibibio/Efik people.

It just seems in Nigeria today, different groups are so inward looking, that they cannot look to other groups for inspiration.

alj harem:

i think igbos can learn from other nigerians instead of the other way around

but all in all, others too can learn from us igbos

Stop disrespecting MY people. I have already told you about yourself in the Cultural section. Answer your father's name so that we may all know that you are an Igbo. If you cannot, just shut up, because you are ingorant of Igbo customs.

Igbos are a patrimonial society.

Learn before you speak. If you have never lived or embraced Igbo society, you can speak on behalf of Igbo issues. We Igbos do not take kindly to those who know nothing about our history or customs.

Akhenaten, you're back!

Thought you wanted the easy life on the culture forum, away from the sharks on the politics section.

Now you,ve proved yourself an Igbo son - courageous & fearless. You couldnt be seen running away from lightweights (Oops!) like of Jason & Alh harem, could you?

Akhenaten:

Stop disrespecting MY people. I have already told you about yourself in the Cultural section. Answer your father's name so that we may all know that you are an Igbo. If you cannot, just shut up, because you are ingorant of Igbo customs.

Igbos are a patrimonial society.

What is wrong if he says he is igbo i sometimes call myself yoruba and no one complains . I'll advise you to just be cool so that you can enjoy your experience on NL . enough said

Missy85:

Akhenaten, you're back!

Thought you wanted the easy life on the culture forum, away from the sharks on the politics section.

Now you,ve proved yourself an Igbo son - courageous & fearless. You couldnt be seen running away from lightweights (Oops!) like of Jason & Alh harem, could you?

I have a low tolerance for tribalistic postings. As a Pan-Africanist, it sickens me to the core. People like to look at the differences instead of the similarities.

I am an individual, I represent no group. Even though being Igbo is part of my identity, it doesn't mean I do not consider myself different from members of my own group.

Akhenaten:

Stop disrespecting MY people. I have already told you about yourself in the Cultural section. Answer your father's name so that we may all know that you are an Igbo. If you cannot, just shut up, because you are ingorant of Igbo customs.

Igbos are a patrimonial society.

Learn before you speak. If you have never lived or embraced Igbo society, you can speak on behalf of Igbo issues. We Igbos do not take kindly to those who know nothing about our history or customs.

abegi,,,, am i the only igbo that cannot speak igbo(which i am learning)

i have said i am half igbo and can speak for my people anyday anytime,,,so if u do not like it just kill yourself because it is not stoping soon

Missy85:

Akhenaten, you're back!

Thought you wanted the easy life on the culture forum, away from the sharks on the politics section.

Now you,ve proved yourself an Igbo son - courageous & fearless. You couldnt be seen running away from lightweights (Oops!) like of Jason & Alh harem, could you?

Watch your mouth ooo!

jason123:

What is wrong if he says he is igbo i sometimes call myself yoruba and no one complains . I'll advise you to just be cool so that you can enjoy your experience on NL . enough said

I have read some of your posting. You are Itsekiri and they are very similar to the Yoruba clans. That is like the Ikwerre  amongst the Ndi Igbo. No Igbo man will complain if an Ikwerre calls himself Igbo. Actually, we would welcome that.

You are not ignorant of Yoruba culture.

However, I will not allow someone ignorant of my peoples customs to comment on that. And I will vehemently oppose that person with every fiber of my body. And that is my right to do so.

Akhenaten:

I have a low tolerance for tribalistic postings. As a Pan-Africanist, it sickens me to the core. People like to look at the differences instead of the similarities.

I am an individual, I represent no group. Even though being Igbo is part of my identity, it doesn't mean I do not consider myself different from members of my own group.

and i say do this if u are really a pan-african

alj harem:

if u really want unity, [size=15pt]drop your culture and tradition and learn yoruba or hausa then we will gradually be uniting because the ethnic boundary is broken

i have learnt hausa as my culture and language

i have also started learning igbo and yoruba languge

so you also should do the same [/size]

alj harem:

abegi,,,, am i the only igbo that cannot speak igbo(which i am learning)

i have said i am half igbo and can speak for my people anyday anytime,,,so if u do not like it just kill yourself because it is not stoping soon

There is no such thing as half Igbo in traditional Igbo culture. You are either Igbo or you are not. And the only way you can be considered Igbo is if your father is Igbo.

This is my culture and I will stand by that view.

Now stop making my topic personal and learn to listen.

Akhenaten:

I have read some of your posting. You are Itsekiri and they are very similar to the Yoruba clans. That is like the Ikwerre  amongst the Ndi Igbo. No Igbo man will complain if an Ikwerre calls himself Igbo. Actually, we would welcome that.

You are not ignorant of Yoruba culture.

However, I will not allow someone ignorant of my peoples customs to comment on that. And I will vehemently oppose that person with every fiber of my body. And that is my right to do so.

Okay, point taken.

Akhenaten:

I have read some of your posting. You are Itsekiri and they are very similar to the Yoruba clans. That is like the Ikwerre  amongst the Ndi Igbo. No Igbo man will complain if an Ikwerre calls himself Igbo. Actually, we would welcome that.

You are not ignorant of Yoruba culture.

However, I will not allow someone ignorant of my peoples customs to comment on that. And I will vehemently oppose that person with every fiber of my body. And that is my right to do so.

and that is i am commeting on every igbo post so as to know my culture more,,,is there anything wrong with that

if an ikwerre says he is not igbo u all will drown the man but here is me half igbo, not even denying my igboness, u are screaming