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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by Michael004: 12:20am On May 29, 2020
Barbilius:
Lmao. We're talk say people beg them for votes during election, yet the candidate they supported(Atiku) still lost grin ;DSo much for their votes. I remember that anambra guy was always posting and boasting of how they had collected more pvcs in their regions than SW bla bla bla, upon all, their candidate still lost, lmao. Bunch of noise makers.
Lol, you see them chest beating how they will stop Yorubas in 2023. I laugh.

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by Justiceleague1: 12:20am On May 29, 2020
Obamaofusa:


Stop the obscene words and face reality. Most black Americans/African Americans are of Yoruba root.


Read this:

The Wikipedia has genuine references to cure your ignorance .


Recent surveys of African Americans using a genetic testing service have found varied ancestries which show different tendencies by region and sex of ancestors. These studies found that on average, African Americans have 73.2-82.1% West African, 16.7%-24% European, and 0.8–1.2% Native Americangenetic ancestry, with large variation between individuals

Correspondingly, Montinaro et al. (2014) observed that around 50% of the overall ancestry of African Americans traces back to the Niger-Congo-speaking Yoruba of southwestern Nigeria and southern Benin, reflecting the centrality of this West African region in the Atlantic Slave Trade.

Benin here means dahomey or republic of Benin

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans

And you are proud to say this while calling others OSU,how perfect!!!
Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by Iamgrey5(m): 12:21am On May 29, 2020
pazienza:


Which Yorubas led the revolution in Brazil?

Don't get it twisted.

Congo, Angola groups are the majority in Brazil and they came earlier at a time "deAfricanization" was common in Americas. So they lost they cultures and had to embrace the Yoruba culture of Yoruba slaves who were late comers at a point the deAfricanization policy had been relaxed.

That you see a black slave in Brazil bearing Yoruba name or practicing Yoruba culture, does not mean they were originally Yorubas.
Stop being clever by half, everyone knows that it took a while before Yorubas were captured in large numbers and sold as slave.

The Yoruba slave story started largely when Oyo empire fell.

You can Google the Male revolution of Brazil and see who led it..

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by Iamgrey5(m): 12:22am On May 29, 2020
pazienza:


Wikipedia is not a good source in delicate information like this.

Let's wait for Bigfrancis21 to arrive with better details.
Wikipedia is more credible than screen shots that has no direct link on the internet.

Plus, If the numbers were wrong someone would have corrected it on Wikipedia cheesy

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by Michael004: 12:23am On May 29, 2020
pazienza:


Swallow this and keep quiet.
Real numbers. Not Ewedu statistics from Yemi Oluwale.
https://www.nairaland.com/5875972/1952-nigeria-ethnicity-census-result grin
Still showing your dumbness. Are you up to 1% of Equatorial Guinea. Show us any palace of igbo there.

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by Iamgrey5(m): 12:23am On May 29, 2020
pazienza:


I will wait for Bigfrancis21 to arrive.
That's his expertise grin

I trust him on that aspect.
You trust him to Bring screen shots that is not verifiable cheesy

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by Michael004: 12:26am On May 29, 2020
pazienza:


And how many of them were Yorubas?
See what I found from Bigfrancis21 posts.
So you are counting those in South South is igbos abi
Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by Michael004: 12:27am On May 29, 2020
Justiceleague1:


And you are proud to say this while calling others OSU,how perfect!!!
No one calls you osu. It is what you call yourself we are calling you. Ok

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by MetaPhysical: 12:30am On May 29, 2020
Iamgrey5:
You trust him to Bring screen shots that is not verifiable cheesy

Fact checkers dey handy. grin

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by Justiceleague1: 12:32am On May 29, 2020
Michael004:
No one calls you osu. It is what you call yourself we are calling you. Ok

Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by Nobody: 12:33am On May 29, 2020
The below shows the statistics of the number of slaves that were taken from the bight of Benin (majorly Yorubas) 1,488,000, and bight of Biafra (majorly Igbos) 1,058,000 during the Atlantic slave trade.

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by Iamgrey5(m): 12:37am On May 29, 2020
DuwaRepublic:
The below shows the statistics of the number of slaves that were taken from the bight of Benin (majorly Yorubas) 1,488,000, and bight of Biafra (majorly Igbos) 1,058,000 during the Atlantic slave trade.
Another evidence here
Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by Justiceleague1: 12:37am On May 29, 2020
Michael004:
Off point. Stop acting like agbaya.You get pikin na haba.What are they saying, what are you saying. Why did your election not carry Atiku in. Abi buhari beg you. Even Abiola won despite telling you to go to hell.

He won and became what?
Is it not same way Awo was the best president Nigeria never had?!?

I wonder the size of your br.... grin

With what do you do your thinking?!
Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by Ibrahimmrfish(m): 12:53am On May 29, 2020
MetaPhysical:


Hausa is not indigeneous in cameroon or chad or sudan or eritrea or saudi or ghana, not even in senegal.

Most of places you listed are settler communities of hausa traders.

If we were talking of settler communities i would list Yoruba all way to Mauritania and Mali.

Indigeneous only....
Hausa - Nigeria, Niger, Benin.
Hausa have been living in Ghana and Sudan since 1820s and are are currently citizens of both countries, there are about 2 million Hausas in Sudan. As for Saudi 80% of black Saudi are descended of Hausa,who were there since the time of Ottoman empire and most still speak Hausa fluently. As for Cameron,northern part of Cameron use to be a province under sokoto caliphate, i believe you are familiar with Adamawa emirate, which a huge part in now in Cameron so yes we have Hausa speakers in Cameron.Northern part of Burkina Faso was also under Sokoto.Eritrea Hausa community is as a result of trans-sahara trade,Hausa people have been there for centuries and like the community in Saudi,managed to keep their language and culture alive. So before you disprove anything, make sure you at list back your argument with facts.

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by lighternote: 1:05am On May 29, 2020
kolaaderin:
The source smells shit. Igbo is only found in Nigeria Yoruba extend from southwest Nigeria through Benin and some part of Togo. This your source smell shits

Here Is a better source and educate yourself

https://travelnoire.com/amp/here-are-the-most-popular-tribes-in-africa

What a thrashy link without any credible research. Ignoring the obvious numerical strength of the Hausas who stretch across the entire west and northern Africa is a huge blight which questions the authenticity of that shitty blog.
I'm not Hausa but everyone knows they're everywhere in Africa and with their polygamous nature and high fecundity rate.
Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by Vyzz: 1:09am On May 29, 2020
kolaaderin:
The source smells shit. Igbo is only found in Nigeria Yoruba extend from southwest Nigeria through Benin and some part of Togo. This your source smell shits

Here Is a better source and educate yourself

https://travelnoire.com/amp/here-are-the-most-popular-tribes-in-africa


Igbo is recognised in equatorial Guinea
And jamaica even though it isn't recognised in the rasta nation

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by bigfrancis21: 1:20am On May 29, 2020
Sammy07:


Mention the country where there are no Yorubas.

Mention the country where Igbos are indigenous too

Upper onisha news

Equatorial Guinea. The language is regionally recognized there.

In the spirit of Brazil and Cuba Yoruba-descended slaves, plenty Igbo descendants in Jamaica, Haiti, United States, Guyana, Belize etc.

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by Michael004: 1:29am On May 29, 2020
Justiceleague1:


He won and became what?
Is it not same way Awo was the best president Nigeria never had?!?

I wonder the size of your br.... grin

With what do you do your thinking?!
Did your beloved Tofa won?

That is how you people will be claiming most travel, you are everywhere. Whereas, The only Africa man living in the coldest part of Russia is a Yoruba man. I will create a thread on that tomorrow.

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by Michael004: 1:30am On May 29, 2020
bigfrancis21:


Equatorial Guinea. The language is officially recognized there.

In the spirit of Brazil and Cuba Yoruba-descended slaves, plenty Igbo descendants in Jamaica, Haiti, United States, Guyana, Belize etc.
Who recognizes igbo language in equatorial Guinea?

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by bigfrancis21: 1:40am On May 29, 2020
DuwaRepublic:
The below shows the statistics of the number of slaves that were taken from the bight of Benin (majorly Yorubas) 1,488,000, and bight of Biafra (majorly Igbos) 1,058,000 during the Atlantic slave trade.

There is this false assumption about Yoruba slaves being the majority sold at the Bight of Benin. There were way more tribes being sold at the Bight of Benin (Yoruba, Fon, Ewe, etc) vs the Bight of Biafra (Igbo, Ibibio/Efik mostly). From the start of the slave trade up until the late 1700s/early 1800s, Yoruba slaves were actually a minority/sold in fewer numbers compared to other tribes from the Bight of Benin. Pazienza already showed you some numbers breaking down Bight of Benin ethnicities sold and you would confirm that Yoruba slave numbers were insignificant (2% - 10%) in the Bight of Benin slave trade, even dropping to as low as 2% in 1710, from 1640 to 1740 then we begin to see slight increases from 16% in the 1750s to 53% in 1820s, to as high as 85% in the 1830s (once again during the period of Oyo-Dahomean wars) and dropping to 79% between 1840s and 1860s.

The Aja peoples overwhelmingly dominated the Bight of Benin slave trade from as high as 97% in the 1680s up until 1800s (49%) and were at par with Yoruba slaves at 36% in the 1810s.

Be aware that the only period Yoruba slaves dominated the Bight of Benin slave trade is between 1820 to 1860 (62.5% average, last image attached) during the fall of the Oyo empire and the Oyo-Dahomean wars.

Realistic slave figure exports from SW Nigeria: 437,700 (a small percentage never made it out of Africa, but were shipped to Sierra Leone etc)
Eastern Nigeria (Ibibio, Igbo): 1.4m
.

The late arrival of Yoruba slaves into slavery explains why the culture survived the most, because as of the mid 1800s, the abolishment of slavery was en force, slavery was fast fading out, newly-arriving slaves had way more freedom (freedom of speech, language, religion etc) vs other slaves who arrived just 50 years earlier, and were better able to preserve their language and religion. In fact Yoruba language was a living language in South America up until the early 1900s (the pertinent question we need ask is, why did Yoruba language fail to survive as a living language [not as a liturgical language only used during Ifa rites, similar to the dead Latin language often used in the Catholic Church during mass] given the more favorable circumstances its speakers lived in after they arrived?). Ifa survival and popularity in Latin America are not really because of huge slave numbers, but due to favorable circumstances coinciding with their introduction.

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by bigfrancis21: 1:49am On May 29, 2020
Michael004:
Who recognizes igbo language in equatorial Guinea?

The country recognizes Igbo as one of their languages. According to the 1994 census of EG (I know Wikipedia should not be used here, I also provided you a snapshot of the webpage where this data was pulled from), you could see that the Igbo were the 3rd largest group in EG. In Igboland, EG is called 'panya' and in the 20th century, thousands of Igbos relocated to EG in search of economic opportunities (similar to the Yoruba group that left Nigeria to settle in Togo many decades before) and they have long naturalized there.

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by MetaPhysical: 1:52am On May 29, 2020
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bigfrancis21:


Equatorial Guinea. The language is officially recognized there.

In the spirit of Brazil and Cuba Yoruba-descended slaves, plenty Igbo descendants in Jamaica, Haiti, United States, Guyana, Belize etc.
[/s]

Official language in Equitorial Guinea is French, Spanish and Portuguese.

Igbo is listed as others. Igbo language got to EG because of refugee airlift during Biafra.

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by darfay: 1:53am On May 29, 2020
Juliusmalema:


Op is fantastically correct except Ijaw...

Ijaw is not even up to 3.7 million.

The inflation is out of bound. That position is for TIV and kanuri.



If it's in Africa, it's a no what of the ethnic Arabs, Zulu and xhosa should have above 5m same with kikuyu2
Cc lionessza6

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by MetaPhysical: 1:56am On May 29, 2020
Ibrahimmrfish:

Hausa have been living in Ghana and Sudan since 1820s and are are currently citizens of both countries, there are about 2 million Hausas in Sudan. As for Saudi 80% of black Saudi are descended of Hausa,who were there since the time of Ottoman empire and most still speak Hausa fluently. As for Cameron,northern part of Cameron use to be a province under sokoto caliphate, i believe you are familiar with Adamawa emirate, which a huge part in now in Cameron so yes we have Hausa speakers in Cameron.Northern part of Burkina Faso was also under Sokoto.Eritrea Hausa community is as a result of trans-sahara trade,Hausa people have been there for centuries and like the community in Saudi,managed to keep their language and culture alive. So before you disprove anything, make sure you at list back your argument with facts.

Is fulani indigeneous to Nigeria or not?

Gwaris speak Hausa. Kuje speak Hausa. Are they Hausa people? Are you talking about Hausa speakers, or Hausa people?

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by bigfrancis21: 1:56am On May 29, 2020
MetaPhysical:
[s][/s]

Official language in Equitorial Guinea is French, Spanish and Portuguese.

Igbo is listed as others. Igbo language got to EG because of refugee airlift during Biafra.

There's a difference between Official and Regional languages. French, Spanish and Portuguese ARE THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGES of EG, while Igbo is recognized as a regional language (the same status as other indigenous/native languages of EG ie Fang, Bubi etc). No other native language in EG is officially recognized. All native languages (including Igbo) are regionally recognized based on their area of dominance.

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by MetaPhysical: 2:02am On May 29, 2020
bigfrancis21:


There is this false assumption about Yoruba slaves being the majority sold at the Bight of Benin. There were way more tribes being sold at the Bight of Benin (Yoruba, Fon, Ewe, etc) vs the Bight of Biafra (Igbo, Ibibio/Efik mostly). From the start of the slave trade up until the late 1700s/early 1800s, Yoruba slaves were actually a minority/sold in fewer numbers compared to other tribes from the Bight of Benin. Pazienza already showed you some numbers breaking down Bight of Benin ethnicities sold and you would confirm that Yoruba slave numbers were insignificant (2% - 10%) in the Bight of Benin slave trade, even dropping to as low as 2% in 1710, from 1640 to 1740 then we begin to see slight increases from 16% in the 1750s to 53% in 1820s, to as high as 85% in the 1830s (once again during the period of Oyo-Dahomean wars) and dropping to 79% between 1840s and 1860s.

The Aja peoples overwhelmingly dominated the Bight of Benin slave trade from as high as 97% in the 1680s up until 1800s (49%) and were at par with Yoruba slaves at 36% in the 1810s.

Be aware that the only period Yoruba slaves dominated the Bight of Benin slave trade is between 1820 to 1860 (62.5% average, last image attached) during the fall of the Oyo empire and the Oyo-Dahomean wars.

Realistic slave figure exports from SW Nigeria: 437,700
Eastern Nigeria (Ibibio, Igbo): 1.4m
.



Yoruba did not only conquer states in West Africa and took slaves, even in diaspora we conquered other Africans and imposed our culture and thoughts and religion as the dominant way of life for the slaves. Do you deny this?

Igbo was not dominant in Jamaica or Haiti. You had zero influence anywhere as a slave. There are written records and facts on this not just by historians but even descendants of plantation owners who submitted records left to them in family heirloom.

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by MetaPhysical: 2:04am On May 29, 2020
bigfrancis21:


There's a difference between Official and Regional languages. French, Spanish and Portuguese ARE THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGES of EG, while Igbo is recognized as a regional language (the same status as other indigenous/native languages of EG ie Fang, Bubi etc). No other native language in EG is officially recognized. All native languages (including Igbo) are regionally recognized based on their area of dominance.

You left that fact out in your original post. If i had not responded your clarity in this post would have been left unrevealed....and feed misinformation, as you intended in that original post that Igbo is an official language.

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by pazienza(m): 2:07am On May 29, 2020
MetaPhysical:


Yoruba did not only conquer states in West Africa and took slaves, even in diaspora we conquered other Africans and imposed our culture and thoughts and religion as the dominant way of life for the slaves. Do you deny this?

Igbo was not dominant in Jamaica or Haiti. You had zero influence anywhere as a slave. There are written records and facts on this not just by historians but even descendants of plantation owners who submitted records left to them in family heirloom.

https://www.barbadospocketguide.com/our-island-barbados/about-barbados/bim-or-bimshire.html

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by MetaPhysical: 2:13am On May 29, 2020
pazienza:


https://www.barbadospocketguide.com/our-island-barbados/about-barbados/bim-or-bimshire.html

In etymology, Barbados is closer to Barba than it is to anything in Igbo.

Just because they say it is attribute of Igbo does not mean it is indded such. Like I said, where vacuum exists, you people use noise to establish footprints and claim what no one else care to put their name and stamp of authority on.

I guarantee you if Barba people get on social media and position their culture as the origin of the name in Barbados they will stamp authority on the claim.

Noise is not fact! grin

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by bigfrancis21: 2:17am On May 29, 2020
MetaPhysical:


Yoruba did not only conquer states in West Africa and took slaves, even in diaspora we conquered other Africans and imposed our culture and thoughts and religion as the dominant way of life for the slaves. Do you deny this?

Igbo was not dominant in Jamaica or Haiti. You had zero influence anywhere as a slave. There are written records and facts on this not just by historians but even descendants of plantation owners who submitted records left to them in family heirloom.

Igbo influence lingers in more subtle ways, especially linguistically, down to the Pidgin English (imported from the Caribbean) that we speak in Nigeria! Una (from Igbo 'unu'), 'dey' (from Igbo 'di' i.e Chi di/God dey), tee (from Igbo 'tee' ie o teela/e don tee) etc all come from Igbo language. The Jamaicans still say 'unu', not even 'una'! Igbo 'unu (una, wuna, uno, unnu, wunu) is used virtually across all English-based patois in the whole world, from Nigerian PE, Sierra Leone PE, Ghanaian PE, in Belize patois, Jamaica, Guyana etc. You name it.

An Island here in the US is called 'Ebos landing' and up until the 1980s, some African Americans still bore 'Ebo' as their surname! Due to the high concentration of Igbo slaves in the state of Virginia, US, VA was nickamed, 'new eboeland' and in this regard did the state, not Igbos, decide to build an Igbo village in Staunton VA in recognition of the past heavy Igbo presence.

Yoruba Ifa which originally was practiced by Yoruba slaves was embraced by descendants from other tribes (even till this day) as a way of connecting to Mama Africa/their African heritage and has transformed into a religion for afro-descended blacks but it does not mean that all adherents are Yorubas or have Yoruba ancestry. A substantial number aren't Yorubas by blood and their DNA admixture test will prove this. Brazilian and Cuban blacks are a good mix of Congolese, Angolese and European genes. Some Igbo as well. Roman Catholicism originated from Rome and spread worldwide to have hundreds of millions of adherents. A good number of Igbos today are Roman Catholics but they are not Romans. Also, in Judaism, you could be a Jew either by religious conversion or by having Jewish (esp maternal) ancestry. However, only those of true Jewish genetic ancestry are regarded as Jews.

When many afro-descendants start to investigate into their African ancestry, they often encounter Yoruba Ifa first but I've seen many of them join and leave the religion, especially after DNA testing indicates non-Yoruba origins. I belong to several Afro-descended DNA testing groups on Facebook and an overwhelming number of results come up with Igbo DNA (some as high as 70% Igbo) and Yoruba comes up once in a while (again, confirming the number breakdown posted previously). Do not confuse all Ifa adherents in Brazil and Cuba as Yorubas, because, genetically, they are not. A good number have Congolese and Angolan DNA in them.

It is very easy to make emotional-based claims but DNA testing results have consistently shown a different story.

In SW Nigeria today, due to the high rate of inter-tribal marriages, a substantial number of Yorubas have 50% Igbo blood to as high as 75% or 80% Igbo blood (those with Igbo mothers and Igbo paternal grandparents), despite being 'Yoruba by name'. Yoruba by name, Igbo by DNA.

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by bigfrancis21: 2:23am On May 29, 2020
MetaPhysical:


You left that fact out in your original post. If i had not responded your clarity in this post would have been left unrevealed....and feed misinformation, as you intended in that original post that Igbo is an official language.

Regardless, it is still a recognized language and the 3rd largest ethnic group in EG.

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Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by forgiveness: 2:27am On May 29, 2020
pazienza:


There are no indigenous Yorubas in Togo.
The Yorubas in Benin wouldn't have made up the deficit Yorubas had against Igbos in that census in 1952.

Atakpame in Togo is inhibited by who?

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