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Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by SEFAGO(m): 6:15am On Feb 02, 2011 |
Ok my biggest issue with polygamy arguments is this- where exactly are you talking about? Are you talking about Mormon polygamy or Muslim polygamy or polygamy in African nations? The reasons that motivate people to practice polygamy strongly depends on what context you are talking about. Thats when we can examine if really love plays a role. Nevertheless, I dont see love as a suitable qualifier for any argument tbh. And Yes, in most cases polygamy would usually be based on finances- obviously like Abiola, or religion in which the woman is made to believe that what is doing is the divine order of some god. If you doubt US/West ever accepting/legalizing polygamy what makes you think majority of Africans will ever accept homosexuality as a way of life? Trust me, many Africans find homosexuality more disgusting than the west find polygamy. And I doubt it will ever change. They might eventually review their laws towards tolerating homos (I hope not), but I doubt it will EVER be accepted as a decent way of life in Africa. OAM4J, polygamy is practiced to some extent in the UK especially for foreign marriages but the Government might probably not accept it because they ahve a very welfare driven society over there (Thats why everyone is so lazy ), to allow for cultures which engage in polygamy. And No, the laws against polygamy were not made as a result of "disgust" in the US. Where did you get that misinformation from? |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by ShyOne(f): 7:05am On Feb 02, 2011 |
quote from Isale_gan2 UPDATED - Thread Summary - page 3 to now: ok I get the humor - but crazy - I am not |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by fstranger1: 7:09am On Feb 02, 2011 |
^^^^ She didnt fall into my trap! Smart woman! |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by ShyOne(f): 7:14am On Feb 02, 2011 |
ahahhahahahahaha so fstranger1 go and get some rest - it is very late |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by OAM4J: 7:19am On Feb 02, 2011 |
SEFAGO: Before Mormon, Islam, Christianity or any other religion, there was polygamy. Fast-forward to 2011; non religious people are still going into polygamy. Both Polygamy and Monogamy have challenges, and people get into both marriages for various reasons (financial security inclusive), but to say only monogamy is based on love is a big error. SEFAGO: And where did I made that statement or imply that? Jenefa said polygamy disgusts most Americans and I simply said not as much as homosexuality disgusts Africans, how does that translates to US made law against polygamy out of disgust? |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by bashem: 7:27am On Feb 02, 2011 |
God, No God. |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by Sagamite(m): 11:15am On Feb 02, 2011 |
Jenifa_: Why must marriage be based on love? Who told you that? Who told you polygamic marriage cannot be based on love? People in polygamy cannot love each other? Why can't marriage be based on financial arrangement? Why can't marriage be based on convenience? Or on any other arrangement? Who is to decide what marriage should be based on and who is to legislate on that? If marriage is based on love then many marriages in the US are serious scams! Jenifa_: Morality does not only apply to women in Islam. It is only (1) easier to enforce it in judgement because its contravention is easier to prove in women or (2) because women are more desirable (one wonders what male gays see ) hence the se.x demanded to wear Hijab for morality principles, not because women disgust shariarists or morality is only being applied to women. If it is proven that a man is guilty of adultery in sharia, he would face the same fate. Jenifa_: Please stop comparing depraved gays to normal people like Blacks, Jews, Palestinians or whatever. It does not make sense. SEFAGO: Georgetown PhD, you love to throw your silly arguments in. So how are Jews unnatural? So it one person says eating is unnatural, it makes it a valid argument to dispute an argument that being gay is unnatural? Is that what you are thought in critical th . . . . .? eku_bear: Entitled to and is a whole lot stronger than the steeewpid arguments saying gays are normal and be accepted. eku_bear: What is the population of those that will be disgusted. Do loud minorities become a majority? Even if they were majority, it does not make it unnatural. eku_bear: I said show me a video. You showed me wiki? fstranger1: Maybe reetarded community college boneheads like this can find it disgusting but it does not make it a majority or unnatural (except in his community college law and philosophy critical thinking classes). OAM4J: Don't mind their arguments. |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by SEFAGO(m): 12:44pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
you would also be aware that the German's found the Jews both disgusting and unnatural. SEFAGO obviously making a comment about German perspectives in the late 1930s to early 1940s and not what he thinks. So how are Jews unnatural? The Most brilliant person in the world incapable of even 3 sentence comprehension jumps all formal logic and links this as what SEFAGO thinks. SEFAGO is tired because even his gateman in Nigeria can read and comprehend 3 lines in English. SEFAGO looks at that piece of paper on his laptop and says with justified disgust N*gger Are you for Real? |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by SEFAGO(m): 1:00pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
Before Mormon, Islam, Christianity or any other religion, there was polygamy. Fast-forward to 2011; non religious people are still going into polygamy. Yes the same way homo, has been practised since time immemorial. Fast forward 2011 non religious people and even religious people are homos. You have not argued about your claim with a well structured argument- you have only made an assertion. How do you know there can be love in polygamy? At least build a hypothetical situation let us see. Yes women in cultures that were patriachial in the past went with polygamy- you are kind of just killing your argument. Which people practice polygamy? Name them and I can confidently analyze polygamous behavior in their context. Are you just afraid to say Mormons, Middle Easterners and mostly Nigerians. Look at your sample All this one na wuru wuru Jenefa said polygamy disgusts most Americans and I simply said not as much as homosexuality disgusts Africans, how does that translates to US made law against polygamy out of disgust? By not refuting her claim, and immediately arguing that this is factually wrong and carrying it along your line of argument, I think by all measures (at least in formal logic), to say that you believe this. See when I see something wrong, I either ignore it or correct the person. And I quote: Trust me, many Africans find homosexuality more disgusting than the west find polygamy. Implicit and supportive in your claim is that the legality of polygamy is argued just on disgust. You have failed to see the larger picture here. The argument for polygamy as i carefully stated is multidimensional jumping across issues of government, ethics and morality and even biology sef. Nitpicking on one is just intellectual dishonest. Dont worry I kind of think you are decently logical so I would not smack you senseless . However at least articulate your polygamy arguments a bit more clearly |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by Sagamite(m): 1:02pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
SEFAGO: SEFAGO is dumb for raising Germans thinking Jews as unnatural to disparage an argument that gays are unnatural. SEFAGO has been dumb sevearal times with his dumb opinions like informed consent, PhDs are always right, gay rights is a human right under UN that countries are obliged to follow, guessing I attended Bristol and numerous more. SEFAGO is not smarter than his gateman, he is just lucky to be born in a family with better means. SEFAGO needs to know he is not in the league of proficient thinkers. |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by fstranger1: 1:30pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
Gbagaun! Gbagaun!! Gbbagaun!!! Round 5 Bristol University Vs. All US PH.D Programs |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by SEFAGO(m): 1:31pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
^ Na me think sefago needs to laugh a bit more guessing I attended Bristol and numerous more. Yeah right . I guessed. Hmm . Each to his or her own. SEFAGO is dumb for raising Germans thinking Jews as unnatural to disparage an argument that gays are unnatural. So thats all you got- you just read the sentence and took it for face value. Please refer to the fourth line of the post preceding my last post. TBH, you have been thoroughly whipped and outclassed in this thread. Infact I kind of feel sad for you. I was thinking of whipping you logically too, but then I understand that you are a product of your environment and just let you be. Moreover, I know all your argument consist of just naming one thing and one thing only . However you will not let me be. Its like u are just jealous. Agbaya like you been whipped by kids who have not even graduated college.
Duh . . .to borrow fstrangers line- "Who born the Maga?" But how does it feel gangster, you think that you are smarter than everyone in the world. Therefore, you are smarter than everyone in the world. Man I wish I were you. On top of the world Me want no drama, you are the smartest guy in the world , like really your brain is so large, I am awed by that shhhhhhhhhiiit. Man you are the s/h/i/t trust me. The s/h/i/t. |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by Nobody: 1:52pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
People like Jennifer and Sefago keep bringing up inter race conflict and equating it with the treatment of faggotts. Again what is the link. For the record the Nazis did not kill the Jews because they thought they were unnatural or disgusting but simply because of fear and envy. Jealousy is the root of hatred after all. Namely they feared the financial power and unity of the jews and blamed them for defeat in the first world war as a result of their leftist agitations. The Nazis did not kill Russian POWS because they found them disgusting but because they were greedy and envious of the natural resources and the size of mother Russia. In any case racism and tribalism arises out of ignorance and political indoctrination. It is certainly not natural to hate someone that is a total stranger to you except you have been indoctrinated otherwise. Do preschool kids exhibit racism? No Away from that these pro pederasts should just give us an argument why society should accept or tolerate sodomites without linking it to civil rights issues |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by Sagamite(m): 1:56pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
SEFAGO: You are a mooooron!!! Your are a what? You are a mooooron. I was laughing so hard when you said I attended Bristol I felt the need to share the fun with someone as it was not something I wanted to enjoy alone. So I randomly PMed OAM4J because we get along, just because it was too funny and I did not want to be laughing alone. See the print screen attachment. And here was his wink as a reply back then. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-593966.224.html#msg7629909 So picking from thin air is the critical thinking technique they taught you in the greatest "but unfortunate in rankings" Georgetown university? And your team of fellow reetards from community colleges that believed you without finding out how you arrived at the "fact". Moooron!!! [flash=400,350] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P--C-t60lI[/flash] I want to "Oxford College" at the University of C. . . . . . . . . . SEFAGO: You are dumb! You know it, I know it. You did not think so until you can on NL and you made the wrong move trying to impress people that are way above your intellect. People that don't pick facts from thin air. I have been whipped by who or what? You want me to bring my Al Pacino cry back? SEFAGO: I don't feel like I am smarter than everyone on Earth but I am your type's God. I am probably the smartest human being you would ever be privileged to communicate in in your entire life. [flash=400,350] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTSNVh-ah-4[/flash]
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Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by SEFAGO(m): 2:10pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
People like Jennifer and Sefago keep bringing up inter race conflict and equating it with the treatment of faggotts. Again what is the link. WTF is inter-race? I kind of think my patience is waning. I was laughing so hard when you said I attended Bristol I felt the need to share the fun with someone as it was not something I wanted to enjoy alone. So I randomly PMed OAM4J because we get along, just because it was too funny and I did not want to be laughing alone. Wow someone has friends. Hmm, , keep laughing hard. Me too walahi I dey laugh . So you had no other friends to talk to except someone you met on NL. This N*gger is just pathetic. God forbid I make friends on an online forum. 16th, 14th, 33rd in the UK? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Honestly, when you got to Cornell I just kind of had to laugh. Everyone is laughing at you right now, wetin concern me with OAM4J, someone that cannot even articulate polygamy arguments well PhysicsMHD took you for sinkers. Like he totally and unconditionally smashed you to pieces. I wanted to beg on your behalf, but then what could I do? But oooh boy you must be rrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrddddddeddddddddddd Get it, since you love repeating stuff I will do you the honor: rrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttttttttaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrddddddddddddddddeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeddddddddddddddddddddd Me your class, me think not? |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by Nobody: 2:19pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
SEFAGO:Inter-racial, inter-race inter-ethnic call it what you like. Again what is the link between these political struggles and a sexual perversion? I have asked you this question several times here so MY OWN patience is running thin. |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by SEFAGO(m): 2:22pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
tensor777: Errm who again are of the same race? |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by Krayola(m): 2:26pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
haha people still making the same lame arguments that have been shredded countless times on NL. It's unnatural and disgusting. Olodo rabatas They suggest humans should model their behaviour around "nature", whatever that means. Maybe we should eat our young and murder our sex partners, you know, kinda like occurs in nature with some species eg praying mantis. Or lions that kill the young when they take over a new pride. It's natural, right? Beer parlour intellectualism at it's finest. Na una get time. |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by Nobody: 2:31pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
Krayola:That is a very silly argument. I did not say it should be banned JUST because it is unnatural and disgusting but also because it is downright WRONG. |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by SEFAGO(m): 2:32pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
^ TBH, I am kind of tired myself, same s/h/i/t even the same people. Nothing new, just recycled s/h/i/t |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by Krayola(m): 2:39pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
tensor777: What is "WRONG" about it? FYI throwing tantrums and calling it "faggottrry" does not make it wrong, it just helps your insecure punk as$ feel superior and powerful. SOmething you obviously crave desperately. SEFAGO: I tire o, my brother It's almost like they don't think about the stuff they say. How can one make such ridiculous arguments? IMO the most they can argue for based on the nonsense they say is that maybe homosexuality should be discouraged in some societies because it may cause some discomfort for an overwhelming majority in those societies. And even that will need some serious argumentation and not this beer parlour nonsense these clowns keep spewing. This is comic relief, at best. |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by SEFAGO(m): 2:48pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
^ I think its the drive to post that just make people keep going. I have lost 5 days of solid work already. I think me had enough. This is definitely not worth my time. |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by Nobody: 2:49pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
Krayola:You are seriously asking me what is wrong about it? After 33 pages you think I have time to waste convincing you. Okay continue supporting and practising it and we will see where that will get you, |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by Sagamite(m): 4:01pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
SEFAGO: Typical moooronic conjectures termed as critical thinking taught at the great but unfortunate in rankings Georgetown university. SEFAGO: As long as it is someone from Georgetown assessing I am losing an argument, I am cool with it. If it was someone from Bristol, I would want to commit suicide. Now let me indulge you and your fellow reeetards and assume my honorary alum school: University of Bristol. Direct comparison Bristol: 66 Georgetown: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400 Indirect comparison Bristol: 33rd Georgetown: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 52 Georgetown is so inferior! |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by manny4life(m): 4:22pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
Haba, I was gone for a whole day and the next I return is 3 more pages, you guys have more time on your hands. Me was busy in the office, did not have time to for all this rant and bullshit, so everyone should gear up again becos the thread is going up to 40 pages. I would stand to the side and be watching you argue. |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by SEFAGO(m): 4:26pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
Yeah whatevs, dude. I really gotta start work rite now. Like seriously dude. When I have time we can continue? Is that Ok, trust me, not tired but have to finish some stuff and if you dont stop, I will be tempted to keep replying again and again, wasting my valuable time. Pity your little brother and let him finish his stuff ok . Be the BIG man and forget the i/d/i/o/t who guessed you went to bristol. Stick to the debate. You are definitely my God. Who send the Maga? Emi ke- who dash monkey banana? I dobale for you in your infinite brilliance. PS: Eku_bear do you code or program? I kind of have issues with a script I am writing (And I should have finished writing since last week Friday lol). Though its probably in a language you might not be used to.
Me too, I think I am done. I am getting into deeper s/h/i/t every single second I waste |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by OAM4J: 4:55pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
SEFAGO: What is your point Prof? You logics is confusing. Pls put on on your critical analysis cap. I did not start the love assertion thing, Jenifa argued against polygamy by claiming monogamy is based on love and implied polygamy is not, I questioned it, then you tried to introduce religion into it and I simply pointed out to you that before any religion there was polygamy. What is wuruwuru here. Just say you are losing it.
Prof, you might need to put on your glasses and if you dont have one, I will recommend you get one. Where in Jenifa post or in my post did you see us talk about making law based on disgust? Pls read the posts carefully again and show me. My argument is that for whatever reason(s) the majority in many western countries found polygamy disgusting and made it illegal, and the minority who believe and practice polygamy respect it without forcing them to change their laws is the same reason the minority who believe and practice homosexuality in Africa should respect the law and not force them to change it. That is what Democracy is all about, MAJORITY wins. |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by SEFAGO(m): 5:16pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
Ok whatever bro, you are 100% correct. WTF was I thinking? Peace out and have a nice day. |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by isalegan2: 5:18pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
manny4life: Manny4life, my fruity brother, I waited for you. How pathetic can it be that you cannot find two (2) NLers to bail you out of the you-know list? And 2 you-knows don't count. Has to be 2 red-blooded testament to African masculinity/femininity! Pick from the hetero list. BTW, Bluetooth is worth the sum of 2 all by himself. Note: If you can show me a post in this thread showing the following, I might reconsider: - you asserted your right to chase as many women as you can handle - where you expressed regret that a life was lost, but "you know, he kinda shoulda expected it" - you will defend to your last breath the continent of Africa from legalizing the gays - you expressed the view that the westerners are out to ruin us by promoting this "lifestyle" and corrupting our young 'uns in their country - you stated that the guilty party was probably a friend You may also gain the support of 2 members on the "hetero" list that can vouch that you are not "you-know"? You may not edit your posts. I can tell. - - - - - - - - - - - - - Anyway, I moved around a couple and added a couple more. So, this is final. Fight! THE REALLY UPDATED LIST - Page 3 to now: Gays FSTRANGER (Flying the rainbow flag proudly) Eldee (Would like four husbands just like the polygamists do it) Eku (but of course), Jenifa (not Nigerian, not even African), Udezue (seriously, look at his profile pic) Chrisbenogor (very angry gay) Gar3th (gay guy, gayer name) Babalegba (passionate about man love) 2good (2good for women?) Manny4life (denial is not a river in Eqypt) Drrionelli (thinks you aint gay until the 100th man ) Plus: Tippy Top; Morpheus24; Redsun; Idehn; Adconline; Olojoro; And: Queensmith; Londoner; Ileke-Idi; Shy-One Bi-curious PhysicsQEDHMDPHDEDD (am shocked) Gbawe (a gay pretending to be a liberal hetero in order to get lipstick lesbians/ hot feminists) Tasma Questionable Buzugee (nothing to see here) Mobinga (Mobingay? ) OA4MJ ( ) In a League of His Own 13volts ( "I will kill any Gay if i had a chance" ) Hetero Sagamite Katsumoto Mai Suya; Lastpage; Elrony; Viewlekan; babaowo; Dreamchaser Tensor777 (VERY VERY VERY VERY VE-RY heterosexual! Very!) Obiagu1 (the gays really really hate him!) Righton (thinks everyone except him is "secretly gay" ) Deluxecad (hates homos named david) Philip0906 (textspeak will turn you gay. seriously, stop it!) Isale-Gangan (What? Me worry? ) Dayokanu (thinks he equals the sum of 5 normal heteros!) BLUETOOTH (how could I forget our champion) Disclaimer 1: If you feel you have been misinterpreted, maligned, your reputation sullied in any way, I hereby offer . . . Disclaimer 2: See my siggy. |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by manny4life(m): 5:35pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
isale_gan2: See me see trouble o, fruity sister/woman, I am a very busy young man, don't have time for myself let alone Nairaland, but when I post I ahve that time. That answer is that I don't have to prove jack. * I don't have to prove s/h/it to assert a right to chase as many women as I can, that's irresponsible. Ask Mr. Cork, he'll tell you better. * I often express regret over a life lost only for a just purpose like criminal act, Murder in my book isn't an excuse. *I cannot speak for Africa, that's ambigious; however, I would rather defend the rights and freedom for quality and justice amongst all Africans no exceptions to the equation. *Westerners aren't out to ruin or promote; you cannot eat your cake and have it back. If you want to live a life like the westerners, then behave like one. It's part of the western culture, critics deal with it. * Don't know exactly how you mean by the guilty party here, no one was guilty even the law syas it, innocent until proven guilty. |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by OAM4J: 5:57pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
isale_gan2: Whatever! BTW, do you have a beautiful sister that is 18 and above or a beautifully girlfriend (with a blessed 'chest' and a good 'sitter')? If yes, it will be a good idea to send one or both of them to me in other to help you clear your doubt. |
Re: Uganda Gay Rights Activist David Kato Killed by isalegan2: 6:17pm On Feb 02, 2011 |
manny4life: Am not going to read all that. What happened to you? OAM4J: Not as defensive as Manny up there. Anyway, why is it that men who profess to be the most liberal about gay rights are usually the ones most strident about proving their heterosexuality? God forbid you suggest (jokingly) that they might be light in the loafers. You know this was all in jest, right? This 33 pages of stuff is ridiculous!!! Half of it was about school ranking. But most of it was fun nevertheless. The list stays though. Sorry! BTW, I don't have a girlfriend. I'm not gay, remember? But, keep looking - you'll find the right girl/boy someday. |
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