GenBuhari:

Clearly you are still not thinking straight - OBJ is the worst in my opinion, closely followed by IBB

I shall not be bothering to read your analysis

Sagamite:

I don't know who you are

I don't know what you want

If you are looking for someone in your league, I can tell you now that I am way over your intellectual league

And what I do have is a particular superior intellectual brain

Intellect I have built up over a very long career

Intellect that makes me a nightmare to people like you

If you shut up now, that will be the end of it

I will not shred you

I will not dice you

But if you don't!

I will shred you and I will dice you

And I will slaughter you intellectually.

i particularly have an aversion for intellectually lazy minnions like you,instead of engaging in meaningful argument,you have reorted to taking it personal.do you have to know me to accept that you made a mistake for instance by categorizing Senator Amosun as being politically experienced or new to leadership position after serving 4 years in the senate?and what intellect have you built over the years?it's not your age that matters but the soundness and rationality of your position and arguments.so let's see how you 'shred and dice(diss i believe is the correct word) me,the all knowing sagamoron.i don't have the time to engage in polemics with narcissists like you.

op: Thumb UP!!!

Homonide:

i particularly have an aversion for intellectually lazy minnions like you,instead of engaging in meaningful argument,you have reorted to taking it personal.do you have to know me to accept that you made a mistake for instance by categorizing Senator Amosun as being politically experienced or new to leadership position after serving 4 years in the senate?and what intellect have you built over the years?it's not your age that matters but the soundness and rationality of your position and arguments.so let's see how you 'shred and dice(diss i believe is the correct word) me,the all knowing sagamoron.i don't have the time to engage in polemics with narcissists like you.

You are reetarded!

Your intellect is below my feet.

Lets start the education:

Senators are representatives, not political leaders. Amosun is new in setting budgets, running mini-economies and appointing staff and delegating to them under political terms. That is what I mean by new to. If, he was a commissioner like Aregbesola or a Federal Minister, I would understand how you can categorise it as leadership position, you fool. This is a CEO job of the state, not representative/agent/delegate of the state. Even Ajimobi has been Senator before.

How does one have the access to assess the performance of a Senator?

Dunce!

That is why I said "new to politics" and used "potential based on background" to assess.

And dimwit, "dice" as in cut into cubes, cut you into pieces intellectually. Ode!

SOME1, PLEASE TELL OR GIVE ME A STEP BY STEP GUIDE ON HOW TO WRITE A TOPIC HERE,. I HAVE TRIED ALL THE STEPS HERE, BUT NO LUCK. I HAVE STORIES/TOPICS THAT WILL BE TOO HOT TO READ. THANKS

HOT-PUSSY:

SOME1, PLEASE TELL OR GIVE ME A STEP BY STEP GUIDE ON HOW TO WRITE A TOPIC HERE,. I HAVE TRIED ALL THE STEPS HERE, BUT NO LUCK. I HAVE STORIES/TOPICS THAT WILL BE TOO HOT TO READ. THANKS

You have to have a certain number of posts to be able to set up topics.

I don't recall the exact count but it is surely below 30 posts.

o ga.

What do I have to do to get my own name in title/front page?

Sagamite

I have not read your entire analysis, but your rating Fashola as top notch is good enough for me.

Eko o ni baje ooooooo.

Dis Guy:


@df2006 why you dey always vex sef? mid life c?

edo no wan carry last

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-469933.96.html#msg6323917

ha ha ha, no i no vex like that, na just this little man with high heels on steriods, dey make me over yarn.
that topic above just made me laugh, as it can be seen i be original bush man, yeah we no dey carry last, at all

Another list of failures!

Sagamite:

You are reetarded!

Your intellect is below my feet.

Lets start the education:

Senators are representatives, not political leaders. Amosun is new in setting budgets, running mini-economies and appointing staff and delegating to them under political terms. That is what I mean by new to. If, he was a commissioner like Aregbesola or a Federal Minister, I would understand how you can categorise it as leadership position, you fool. This is a CEO job of the state, not representative/agent/delegate of the state. Even Ajimobi has been Senator before.

How does one have the access to assess the performance of a Senator?

Dunce!

That is why I said "new to politics" and used "potential based on background" to assess.

And dimwit, "dice" as in cut into cubes, cut you into pieces intellectually. Ode!

because i'm more civilzed than you,i won't stoop to your level by resorting to calling names here.but lets look at your points.ok Amosun does not have the experience of preparing budgets,blah blah blah,you said if it were aregbesola,you'd have accepted that he has the political experience.is this the same aregbesola that you desccribed as lacking political experience?i'm sick of your warped logic!you aren't smart sagamoron,and it'd be a waste of valuable time to continue engaging myself in a supposedly intellectual argument like this.i'll give you the satisfaction of having the last word however,because i know you'll like just that.i'm out.

This is not some in depth analytical review of gubernatorial performance but to me his sagamite's summary insight and assessment, it is not empirical but subjective.

The onus is on us to agree or disagree with constructive criticism not abuse and bad mannered rhetoric.

With regard to Delta state and Uduaghan, i am in COMPLETE DISAGREEMENT with you, your assessment lacks depth and is misleading in the extreme you see he is MUCH, MUCH WORSE THAN A CRETIN, I don't have the adjectives to describe the depth of mediocrity, fraud and incompetence that constitutes his administration so please try again.

Meanwhile I await his arrival to wormwood scrubs to join his cousin Ibori.

Homonide:

because i'm more civilzed than you,i won't stoop to your level by resorting to calling names here.but lets look at your points.ok Amosun does not have the experience of preparing budgets,blah blah blah,you said if it were aregbesola,you'd have accepted that he has the political experience.is this the same aregbesola that you desccribed as lacking political experience?i'm sick of your warped logic!you aren't smart sagamoron,and it'd be a waste of valuable time to continue engaging myself in a supposedly intellectual argument like this.i'll give you the satisfaction of having the last word however,because i know you'll like just that.i'm out.

Mugu, be out!

komekn:

This is not some in depth analytical review of gubernatorial performance but to me his sagamite's summary insight and assessment, it is not empirical but subjective.

The onus is on us to agree or disagree with constructive criticism not abuse and bad mannered rhetoric.

With regard to Delta state and Uduaghan,  i am in COMPLETE  DISAGREEMENT with you, your assessment lacks depth and is misleading in the extreme you see he is MUCH, MUCH WORSE THAN A CRETIN, I don't have the adjectives to describe the depth of mediocrity, fraud and incompetence that constitutes his administration so please try again.

Meanwhile I await his arrival to wormwood scrubs to  join his cousin Ibori.

My apologies for not creating appropriate category.

We go soon see am too for Southwark Crown Court.

@op,
So creating thread to insult those who disagrees with you is the latest measure of intellect? Intellect has certainly reached new low!

OBJ's 8 years were not the best they could possibly be, but the economy really picked up over that time. So I dunno if we should call him a failure.

emeka_gh:

@op,
So creating thread to insult those who disagrees with you is the latest measure of intellect? Intellect has certainly reached new low!

You are reetarded!

ekt_bear:

OBJ's 8 years were not the best they could possibly be, but the economy really picked up over that time. So I dunno if we should call him a failure.

seconded.

@ekt_bear
OBJ in my estimation stole $100Billion (Dollars not Naira)

It is well accepted that OBJ is the biggest looter in African history.

He was an utter disaster for our country, at a period when we could have used record oil prices to progress our nation

The economy picking up during his tenure was simply due to the accident of record high oil prices

ekt_bear:

OBJ's 8 years were not the best they could possibly be, but the economy really picked up over that time. So I dunno if we should call him a failure.

What did he do with regard to electricity?


More on Obasanjo:

http://www.nigerianmuse.com/20080401203731zg/nigeria-watch/official-fraud-watch-towards-fraud-free-governance-in-nigeria/how-obasanjo-and-co-looted-nigeria-in-8-years-by-by-col-abubakar-umar-rtd/

I'm sure he stole a lot. . . probably billions of $s.

But. . . the oil sector of the economy isn't the only component of the economy. . . or even the largest.

And although the oil sector may have grown over his 8 years in office (hard to say though, given that the militants reduced production a lot), that alone was not what caused Nigeria's per capita GDP to increase from $294 when he took office to $1123 (http://data.un.org/Data.aspx?q=nigeria+gdp&d=SNAAMA&f=grID:101;currID:USD;pcFlag:1;crID:566&c=2,3,5,6&s=_crEngNameOrderBy:asc,yr:desc&v=1)

We all know the Nigerian economy is 95% dependant on oil prices

GenBuhari:

We all know the Nigerian economy is 95% oil prices

That is not true. Oil is not even the largest component of Nigeria's economy.

there you go again turning facts and logic on their head.

I'll dig up a quality reference. . . but hopefully it should be clear that saying 95% of Nigeria's GDP is oil makes no sense.

Well, here is a breakdown from the Department of State:

Economy
GDP (2009): $339 billion (agriculture 33%; industry 34%; services 23%).
Real GDP growth rate (2009): 6.1%.
Per capita GDP (2009): $2,300.
Inflation (2009): 11.5%.
Natural resources: Oil and natural gas (37% of 2006 GDP), tin, columbite, iron ore, coal, limestone, lead, zinc.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/2836.htm

And another analysis from the UNDP:

(see page 49 and 50 of this: http://planipolis.iiep.unesco.org/upload/Nigeria/NigeriaHDR20082009.pdf).

There is a bit of inconsistency here I suppose. . . Department of State thinks it is the largest component (37% in 2006), UNDP thinks it was about 26% in 2006. Anyway, point is that Nigerian economy couldn't have grown that rapidly during OBJs era if is was from oil alone; the non-oil sector of the economy is pretty big.

It is obvious that this is a comparision of all other sectors with the oil sector removed

No. Oil is included in "industry."

I'd suggest you take a bit of time and read that report (or at least the pages I mentioned.) That way, you'll need to make less assumptions about what is obvious and what is not.

GenBuhari:

@ekt_bear
OBJ in my estimation stole $100Billion (Dollars not Naira)

It is well accepted that OBJ is the biggest looter in African history.

He was an utter disaster for our country, at a period when we could have used record oil prices to progress our nation

The economy picking up during his tenure was simply due to the accident of record high oil prices

Come off it!

How is someone going to steal $100bn from a country with an average of $32bn as annual national budget.

That is utter rubbish. If he stole a quarter of that, Nigeria will be broke.

He would steal that and still have regards from the international community?

Come off it!

over 8years and yes he did virtually bankrupt us

I'm sure that OBJ stole a lot of money. But that doesn't mean the economy didn't do very well, also.

Anyway, the point of this wasn't to really defend OBJs tenure. . . he certainly didn't do as WELL as he could have. Nigeria would have done better over that 8 year time period with a better leader. . . if we had power, for example.

But let's not paint a revisionist picture and make it out to be that Nigeria regressed over that time period. It improved. . . just not as rapidly as it could have.

GenBuhari:

over 8years and yes he did virtually bankrupt us

He virtually bankrupt you by getting your debts cancelled, quadrupling the economy and increasing your foreign reserve from non-existent to billions of dollars.

Yeah right.

devalued Naira by 250% during period of record oil prices.

No development to show for it.

Gave away valuable Nigerian land at Bakassi

Only part of debts were cancelled and I suspect it was assitance from his western masters (OBJ is stooge of the white man), to assist him in his 3rd term ambitions.