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| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by igboboy1(m): 4:56am On Jun 07, 2011 |
I support ojukwu's apology only if that [b]suicide proned coward Awuolowo is exhumed from his grave [/b]and made to apologise for his role in tribalising Nigeria, until then k'am ga rie Ji 1 Like |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by T9ksy(m): 7:25am On Jun 07, 2011 |
pleep: @ Bolded, Gbosa!!! Ojukwu could have sprinted to Cote D' Ivoire in serch of peace half way through the war when it became apparent that he was fighting a losing war thereby saving hundred of thousands of biafran women and children. Rather Ojukwu exploited their plights to persist and perpetuate the war! As for the book, it will be interesting to read how Ojukwu was betrayed from [b]"within". So it wasn't Awo and by extension the yorubas who betrayed Ojukwu but his own people. For that alone, IMHO, the igbos should apologise to the yorubas for falsely accussing them of betrayal !!  |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by KDULAR: 7:30am On Jun 07, 2011 |
keep blaming and the wounds becomes fresh and the pain increases and when pain increases you nervous sytem wouldn't function properly to analyse the issues. People that will be quick to blame others on their misdeeds will never learn and will remain what they were. From Awolowo to the entire Yoruba men living and dead are and will forever be responsible for the woes( I wonder) of the Ibos. After exhausting all it will turn to the Hausa fulani, then to the Tivs then, the more than 250 tribes in Nigeria. When there is no one to blame, the British who amalgamated Nigeria, then The Americans and the Russians and the whole west for agreeing with the blockade of arms and supplies, then the Arabs for Islamising the Hausas thus the continual killing and maiming of ibos in the North after which it'll shift the to rest of the world and back to the Yorubas including Banjo ( who was later killed while fighting along side Biafra soldiers by who?) If your course of action is to keep on abusing the Yorubas at any giving time is your National past time ( this I've seen with majority of Ibos especially the hinterlands ) then I beg them to continue because it i'll makes then feel Sirike and high. but I bet you it leads to no where. I said something when Akunyili was ranting about speakership that A child that says that when he grows up, he 'll be having his pap (akamu or ogi) with the fried head of a pigeon. The creator of pigeons will not allow the child to grow. In spite of her formidable stature, where is she in the Senate today? For all those blaming Awolowo and Yorubas for their loss or triumph , they reason that if a house , city Nation is really strong, Nothing can shake it but if it seem strong it falls anyway . If any lapse or splinters exists it's formidable nature is lost and it crumbles. Awolowo did his Job and if you know what loyalty means which I believe most una no understand, then You'll never think of it and yab him . Even the Ikemba himself said it "The best president Nigeria never had " All of you should go and sleep with that, because Ojukwu realise that under same circumstances given, he will do the same. Anger blinded Human beings. You want me to join you and you were already advancing and encroaching forcefully into my land! and you expect me to trust you. Or is ore in Iboland? about 180 km from Agbor by road. So because I want my congregation to be full as a pastor , I will now leave my testicles to become a toy for the toddlers abi? Anger and non facing reality but looking for scape will continue to blind, confuse, derail weaken and reduce the blessing that God has in stock for you , truly. Na una be the Christians anyway and should understand better. You cannot do it alone, and don't be backbitters and ingrates to those who could help una achieve wetin you wan achiev including the Hausas and the rest of Nigeria. |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by mcnikes(m): 9:54am On Jun 07, 2011 |
Before you call Ojukwu names, you should carefully and intensively study the events that led to the war. Ojukwu did not start the war, Gowon did. You can't expect ojukwu not to do anything when thousands of Igbos were murdered with impunity up north, you can't blame Ojukwu for a war that the Northerners started. If you had read about the wanton killing of igbos, the train full of bodies of slain Igbos that was shipped down to the east. How Gowon blatantly refused to keep to the agreement reached in the accord agreement. You guys can say all you want. Ojukwu still remains a Hero. IF ANYBODY SHOULD BE TRIED FOR WAR CRIMES, YAKUBU GOWON AND HIS COHORTS SHOULD BE ARRESTED. Nothing justifies the aggressive attack on a people who declared secession in response to the kind of ill treatment they were receiving in what is supposed to be their country. Get your facts right before you attack Ojukwu |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by Theblessed(f): 11:01am On Jun 07, 2011 |
No! But, why should he? Was there any other person who could have done better for the Igbos at the time  ?Let the Igbos point to the person and let the person come out and tell us what he would have done to keep our race out |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by vicenzo(m): 1:23pm On Jun 07, 2011 |
dayokanu: Blazay: Sweet T:Anti-igbo posts like these are allowed to be,while mine was deleted because it was deemed anti-yoruba by the new yoruba moderator  |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by niviso: 1:36pm On Jun 07, 2011 |
Who will appoligize to the dead, bring them back and fix all the mess done by the defenders f the country's integrity? I hiss and feel like crying. The stories aroung it was terrible. Appologies solves no problem. Anyways let those who can talk |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by niviso: 1:42pm On Jun 07, 2011 |
Appologies when a crime has been commited 4me makes no sense. Offenders should be made to face the law which in itself is not sufficient 4 all the lives lost at the time. Remember that one live lost, say a young person, is many others prevented from enjoying life. What a pity for the many innocent that lost their lives, pity to their unborn generation. Let them face the law. |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by Anaegboka(m): 2:08pm On Jun 07, 2011 |
Ojukwu has nothing to apologise for. It's rather Nigeria that owes Igbos an apology for the genocide carried out against them. You haters of Igbos, why don't you let sleeping lions lie. |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by rolchi(m): 2:16pm On Jun 07, 2011 |
Over the years, I've had cause and opportunity to research enormously on issues concerning the war and where there are/were fault lines. Nwanna, you spoke the truth! |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by Nobody: 2:29pm On Jun 07, 2011 |
OAM4J: hey my friend,stop deleting my posts and stop sending me threat messages again. igbo boy: What did you do about this one but whe I PRAYED for ojukwu to die a miserable death,you deleted it.Take your time o ! |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by Theblessed(f): 2:43pm On Jun 07, 2011 |
[b][size=16pt]No, and why should he? He hadn't done any thing wrong! In fact, he saved our a-ses from the evil and weakedness of the Hausas colluding with the Yorubas to anihilate us, that was their plan. But, God's plan for the Ighos was different - he sustained us, using Ojukwu - as his an instrument to keep the Igbos thicking for those horrible 3 1/2yrs of silly Nigerian war against us. God disgraced them, in the end, they could not anihilate the Igbo just like Hitler and his Nazi were unable to anihilate the Jews. Igbos are the Jews of Africa - whatever wickedness/negative intentions any of the other tribes have against us, shall not prosper! We are gifted, hardworking and industrious people with foresight. We are prosperous in everything we do or set our hearts on therefore, no one can blight us! They had and still have been weakedly manipulating the system to deprive the Igbos of their rights in this country yet, we survived without their support and conquered all. No one can stop us! Our children were deprived University places in Nigerian Federal Universities because, they felt threatened by our intelligent and smartness. And, how about government jobs, we were also, excluded. How could we survive then, if not by sheer determination, focussing on the economic side of things to better ourselves instead, of dying and burying ourselves which is what they all wanted - for the tribe Igbo, to disappear. Na lie, for una! Yet, the Hausas and Yorubas continue to abuse us , saying, 'the Igobs love money, they don't like going to school'. And I say, really? Who were at the fore front of Education, Finance and Administration in this country/after the British and before your stupid Nigerian war against the Igbos? Was it not the Igbos? The British left it in the hands of the Igbos because they believe, we are intelligent, smart and capable people and we can look after the country, which we did until, your jealousies came in. Was that not what you guys saw as threats after the Nigerian/Biafran war thus, set up structures and manipulated the system to prevent the Igbos from accessing and benefiting from government facilities, alongside you guys How evil! You forgot that this country belong to us too, when you go about controlling structures/facilities as if, your personal property. To those of you who have no clue, it was the Igbos who first held these positions - The British enthrusted it in our hands because of our intelligence and smartness, which can be seen in the following sectors: Education - Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe was the first Doctorate holder in this country - you mustn't forget that! I now, leave you guys to name number 2. In Business and Finance - Mr Ojukwu - Odumegwu Ojukwu's father was the first self-made millionaire, this country ever produced and since him, there hadn't been many rather, thieves that ransacked our treasury without shame and now, deny that! What about Administrations? Major General J T U Aguiyi Ironsi was Nigeria's first son to lead this country yet the Igbos no, no book and love money and you don't!  If you don't, I wonder what happened to Nigeria's billions missing in the treasury Who stole them? Abi, na the Igbos??Look at the state of Nigerian today after more than 40yrs of your evil Administration - see how backward she is. You see, since the election, I thank God every day for installing one of Igbo's extract in Aso Rock, you will not only see now, the difference an Igbo man can make in this society but also, what you've been missing for over 40 years of your evil Administration and, the blessing the tribe Igbo is, to you all. And, for those of you calling Ojukwu to apologise, hear it now for the last time, Ojukwu does not need to apologise for anything, the Igbo tribe owes a lot to him. The Igbo tribe, couldn't have had it any other better way, at the time in question. You see, we don't blame you because, they say," Hindsight, is the best teacher" because, it is in a position to see and analyse all knacks and cracks but, we are asking,'Mr hindsight, hindsight', where were you in the 1960's when it all began? Ojuwku gave us everything, we should be thanking him, his family and hamlet above all, we should continue to thank God for his life! May God bless you, Odumegwu Ojukwu- Ikemba ndi Igbo, we love you and will always love you!  [/size][/b] |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by Nobody: 5:49pm On Jun 07, 2011 |
Please, can we leave yesterday and talk about today? Today, Nigeria is still divided along ethnic/religious lines. Why cant we tell our selves the truth: that Nigeia is not working and agree to a peaceful seperation? It really bits my imagination why we hate and hurt one another so much, and yet find it hard to stay a little bit apart. Now is the time, let us have national conference; let us negotiate Nigeria. |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by PROUDIGBO(m): 7:33pm On Jun 07, 2011 |
noblezone: ^^^ The simple answer to the above bolded is: the ruling elite from all the ethnic groups are keeping us together b'cos of what they stand to lose if Nigeria disintergrates. I can understand the core nothern ones reasoning like that, but not the ones from the south who can't see beyond their noses and their greed to do what is right for their people. Tell me what could possibly happen if the Politicians/Traditional rulers/Elite of the southern ethnicities come together to insist on a sovereign national conference, to settle once and for all, all issues holding us back as a people. And if answers can't be found at such a conference, then we will all agree to go our seperate ways. If we do go our seperate ways, i suspect what will happen is that nations/ethnicities will now come together in a renewed (uncoerced) attempt to build a nation where tribe and tongue differ, but the difference this time being that the founding fathers of this new nation would indeed have midwifed the birth a truly cohesive and dynamic country where each unit is free to progress at its own pace, and the human and natural resources found within its borders are used primarily for the advancement of the ethnicity concerned with a fraction of said resources going to the centre. In all likelyhood, we may be witnessing the birth of what will become the greatest black nation on earth. |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by Nobody: 7:48pm On Jun 07, 2011 |
PROUD-IGBO:Seconded, but then i guess this leaders again, doesnt want our past leaders, fight for independence to go in vain. cause i believe the fought for Unity Unity that we havent found, i hope we find that UNity, somewhere along the line, someday. |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by OAM4J: 11:45pm On Jun 07, 2011 |
~Bluetooth: I will keep deleting them for as long as there is an insult on it and if you continue I will recommend your ban. Its not a threat, its a warning. so change for your own good. |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by aljharem3: 11:57pm On Jun 07, 2011 |
OAM4J: i am loving ths guy the political section is coming back to sanity thank great job  |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by igboboy1(m): 3:42am On Jun 08, 2011 |
~Bluetooth: ANuofia behaving like a 3 year old, so OAMJ called u out and u are pointing finger at me? Small pikin, deal with ur issues and leave me out of it, AS for you OAMJ i see the message u sent to my inbox, no dey play dangerous play with me. Ah ah if pesin no fit talk about Yoruba people on nairaland what else do u want me to talk about? Tele tubbies? Nna biko no delete my post again, na beg i dey use beg u. |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by OAM4J: 3:54am On Jun 08, 2011 |
igbo boy: Well everything I told your partner in crime Bluetooth applies to you. It takes only one click for me to delete your insulting post. On this section of NL, you can only discuss politics. And if you guys dont have any intension of losing your id soon, then you will cooperate with us mods. |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by isalegan2: 1:49pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
igbo boy: ~Bluetooth: That was too funny. No offense. OAM4J, Take it easy o. Anyway. it is not just words that should be moderated; something should be done immediately about the blessed NLder that persists in blinding us with his giant colourful indecipherable posts. Please and thank you. |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by nduchucks: 2:27pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
Here we go again. If anyone needs to apologise, it is Brigadier General Godwin Alabi Isama. This man claims that his strategy won the war? How come no one knew about this for 40years? This man manufactured sensationalism to peddle his new book and you gullible Nigerians are overreacting. Unfortunately for Brigadier General Godwin Alabi Isama, most of the dummies here don't read, let alone buy his book. Brigadier General Godwin Alabi Isama will not profit from his lies and lame attempt at disparaging Eze Ndigbo Gburugburu, Dim Odumegwu Ojukwu. Adekunle should have used his customary spanner to pull the Brigadier's teeth out while he was much younger, olodo banza. |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by Dede1(m): 5:11pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
@OP I am completely disappointed with maxsiollun for digging out and posting an inconsequential and irrelevant interview given by a coward such as Alabi-Isama who fled from mutinous northern region soldiers in 1966. It is only a foolish grow man such as Alabi-Isama would seek the help of third party to locate his father’s compound. It is borderline idiocy for Alabi-Isama to claim that Hausa can not kill a woman. Granted this Alabi-Isama’s postulation is a delight of a drunken fool, I wonder aloud if Alabi-Isama is privy to1945 and 1956 massacres of non-northern region indigenes in Kano. I guess Alabi-Isama must be demented to have forgotten the men, women and children massacred by northern region soldiers led by James Pam during the Tiv riot of 1964. Some of the soldiers involved in January 15, 1966 coup cited the massacred in Tiv land as a factor that motivated them to join the coup and especially in the killing of Lt Col James Pam. Ojukwu should not apologize to anybody for Nigeria/Biafra civil war. Ojukwu did not start the war instead Gowon and Nigeria precipitated war on Baifra. Ojukwu was not remotely or overtly involved in either January 15, 1966 or July 29, 1966 coup. In the other hand, there is mountainous evidence that Gowon was remotely involved in July 29, 1966 coup. Ndigbo do not need anybody’s idiotic apology but get even. |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by T9ksy(m): 6:57pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
Dede1: Are you really sure about the bolded portion of your post? I seem to recollect Ojukwu giving an interview where he said he wasn't sure if he had pre-knowledge of the Jan 1966 coup. Pity I can't lay my hands on the interview at the moment. As for your last line, wtf are you guys going to [color=#990000]"get even " with? Your ilk just never learn from history, do you now? Bring your katakata down to my region again and we will not hesitate to replicate the "Ore" treatment once more. Get even ko! get extinguished ni!!![/color] |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by Katsumoto: 7:03pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
T9ksy: ROTLMAO |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by Onlytruth(m): 8:25pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
Bros Dede1 Are you the same as the Dede in this book by Onyefuru (one of the officers involved in the January 1966 coup)? I strongly suspect it may be you. I read this book sometime last year and have wondered ever since.
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| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by Onlytruth(m): 8:30pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
This is what led to the coup.
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| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by Onlytruth(m): 8:32pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
I will open a thread for this book later. I need to always remind my Igbo brothers that they should not be more patriotic and nationalistic than other Nigerians. The lesson is written boldly in history. If Nigeria turns into HELL, so be it.  |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by Dede1(m): 8:44pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
T9ksy: I am not surprise this nonsensical crap is a product of your skewed intuitive machination. You are a well known historical revisionist. If I had not read your recollection about the bombing of Lagos in general and Onipanu in particular by Biafran air force, I would have given a benefit of doubt to your ability to remember things correctly. As for the Ore debacle, I guess apple does not fall far from the tree. Believe me; my folks are good at learning from history. The problem is coward dies many times before its death. |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by Dede1(m): 8:52pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
Onlytruth: Bros, the Dede in the book does not relate to my moniker. You sure know I would not attempt to join Nigeria armed forces as a private. Thanks for looking out for your bros. |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by Onlytruth(m): 9:02pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
^^ Thanks brother Dede! I always know you are smarter than doing anything to save an entity that cannot be saved. |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by ak47mann(m): 10:27pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
Onlytruth:my people are very wise and diplomatic now I know why Britain gave power to abokis and their S/W brothers because they knew come 2011 nigeria wll never pass beyond what they left behind since 1960  from infrastructure to feeding her people  SHAME SHAME SHAME!!!!! they even run everything to zero eleticity still about 3.500M.watts while south Africa uses about 40.000Watts no pipe born water. E NO GO BETTER FOR BRITAIN  |
| Re: Should Ojukwu Apologise For The Civil War? by ektbear: 10:31pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
ak47mann: Elaborate on this? What do you mean by it? At independence, it certainly wasn't aboki + SW working together. Aboki chose another tribe to work with to then undermine the interests of the third. . . |
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