Penguin2:


Court order is court order irrespective of who or how it was gotten.

INEC must obey it.

I just want you to correct that thinking that INEC was now treating Bello’s letter differently than it treated Gaidom’s letter.

INEC has been fairly fair v

Indispensable85:


We didn't see these laws when oshiomhole and his EXCO were dissolved. Nobody issued a 21days notice. It was abrupt. Infact the notice for the emergency NEC meeting was not up to 7days. Lawless nation. Abeg Buhari should do and go jooor. He has damaged alot of things.

poiZon:

What if his ward chairman dey dubai with am?

Forget northerners, those guys r too smart for my liking.

Na we dey think say dem mumu, those wey we even think say dem be sophisticated peepoos, dem no sabi nada...


They r consoling themselves with the way senate threw the electoral act away from amendment.
When therr is provision for that clause in the constitution already.
When it comes to electoral act and constitution, which is superior?

Indispensable85:


By the constitution of the APC it's the national vice chairman south south that's to take over in the absence of deputy national chairman south. It's not the deputy national secretary. It's a matter of law not seniority

shinealight:


I think you must have a virile imagination and you’re allowing it to run wild because of your partisanship and preferences!
For your information, Buhari cannot use Consensus to scheme out anyone he doesn’t like during the Presidential Primaries…because all aspirants must agree in writing to withdraw for that Consensus candidate….that is an impossible dream that can never become reality in 2023!

Agbegbaorogboye:

Using presidential influence to get something does not necessarily make it illegal. While you are saying all these, is it right for Tinubu to appoint his wife as senator for Lagos West for almost twelve years running? Is it right for Tinubu to make Alpha Beta collect taxes from Lagosians and remit 10% to him? Is it right for Tinubu to become the sole administrator of Lagos in a democracy?
You see, everyone pulls weight were they can. Just because you're on the losing side is why you have become a social crusader.
Buhari is a political neophyte yet he is playing with your Tinubu's ambition like a toy. What does that make Tinubu then?

You need to take your advice. Like I already told you, the deputy national secretary is higher than the vice chairman in NWC hierarchy. I don't know where you got your constitution from but the constitution specifically says "highest ranking official from the same zone" not vice chairman.

Agbegbaorogboye:


What exactly does Buhari need the party for again?

Indispensable85:



Didn't you hear what the other guy said. Buhari used presidential powers for INEC in that regard. Court order is court order abi? I will remind you of this later.

Indispensable85:



Who is your candidate?

Indispensable85:


Hahahaha.... really? Hmmmmm

Agbegbaorogboye:


Truth be told, I'm not against Tinubu per se. I'm just unhappy with the way he has allowed himself to be played by the north and how you his praise singers failed to see what is before you simply because of primordial interest.
My preferred candidate though is Peter Obi. But if Tinubu wins, i'll be glad too. He has the ability to lead well. But I don't see it happening

Penguin2:


Lol!

Don’t be so pissed.

The Tinubu project is a failed project.

Agbegbaorogboye:

Exactly. You Tinubu supporters need to realize that APC for the northerners was a vehicle to get back what they believed they lost unfairly through Yar'adua. The truth is, the north were really not anti-PDP like you ACN guys. They were rather anti-south. An easy pointer for this is the fact that by 2019, Boko haram was still alive and kicking and insecurity had worsened in the North with bandits. Also, APC corruption was personified by Ganduje. These are the two main pillars the north claimed they booted GEJ out for. Instead, Buhari got almost 95% votes in 2019.
They really don't care about APC especially now that they will be playing second fiddle there by 2023. And Buhari is ALWAYS pro-North

Penguin2:


Lol!

Don’t be so pissed.

The Tinubu project is a failed project.

Indispensable85:


Peter obi is good but he can't get his party ticket. I'm ok with Tinubu or Osinbajo. Tinubu is not a saint though but I see him as a manager of men and resources.

Kundagarten:
I stand with Buni

Buni is our Shia man

Agbegbaorogboye:


He can if the South learn to play politics like the north. The only reason PDP is not already zoning its ticket to the south is not necessarily because Igbos can't win like you guys taunt them. Rather, it is because the South is easily dividable. So they are taking the SE for granted by believing they should suck up to the North and then get divided votes from the South. If tables were turned, I bet you PDP will not try such with the North.

So the South need to learn to be a balancing force to the Northern hegemony. The SW can't do it alone as events in APC have proven. Neither can the SE or the SS. It has to be the South as one entity.
That's when Southerners will have real political value in this country. Imagine Tinubu as consummate and successful as he is as a politician being played like a ball by some inconsequential Buni and Malami. Not because they measure up to him in anyway but because they see the leverage they have over the South. Nnamdi Azikiwe realized this late. Go and read his speech of Jan 1, 1966. The North needs to be balanced politically by the South else, or best minds will never rule this country.
For example, the biggest opposition to both TInubu and Obi is coming from where again?

ityP:



Did everyone agree for Abdullahi to be party chairman? Lmao. Una go learn

Indispensable85:


We didn't see these laws when oshiomhole and his EXCO were dissolved. Nobody issued a 21days notice. It was abrupt. Infact the notice for the emergency NEC meeting was not up to 7days. Lawless nation. Abeg Buhari should do and go jooor. He has damaged alot of things.

DMerciful:
Oshiomhole was removed by a court of competent jurisdiction

shinealight:


Party positions are different from Presidential or governorship primaries where even INEC must observe that every aspect of the Electoral Law is complied with. Buhari cannot simply dictate to others in the process of deciding the flagbearer….regardless of wishful thinking on the part of you guys.
Even the Abdullahi Adamu that you mention has not been accepted by everyone and some people are already up in arms against the President for favouring a particular person..…you can imagine if he tries such in the Presidential Primaries. All hell will break loose!!

Indispensable85:



Lol..... valid points. But can we ever have a homogeneous south? Almost impossible!
I think the PDP and APC are scared of the consequential backlash from the north that's why they're afraid of zoning to the south east. The average northerner will not vote for an ibo man. The only solution is if the both parties agree to zone to the south east. By so doing the north will have no option.

Agbegbaorogboye:


Is the North really homogenous? The North is made of more tribes than the South. However, they easily align their interest when it comes to politics, something we in the South will be forming too politically correct and educated to do.
It is not true to say the average northerner will not vote for an Igbo man, or that an average northerner trusts a Yoruba or Niger Deltan more than an Igbo. They see all as same thing. A possible threat that needs to be subdued. For example. The pioneer of northern hegemony, Ahmadu Bello accused the Igbo of a domineering agenda. Yet, he easily worked with them to the detriment of the SW. He then decimated the SW using Akintola. When Niger Delta threatened to secede, Adaka Boro was decimated by Ojukwu. Same Adaka Boro was granted amnesty by Gowon on the eve of the Civil war while Awolowo was also released and made a commissioner in the Federal Cabinet after being locked up for treason by Tafawa Balewa's govt. Shagari had an Igbo Vice while Awolowo had a northern Vice. They chose an Igbo vice over a Yoruba man.

My point is the North do not really trust any southerner with power be it Yoruba, Igbo or Niger Delta. That's why a Tinubu who sacrificed all to get Buhari elected and re-elected can be treated shabbily despite being a Yoruba. What exactly is stopping Buhari from handing over to Tinubu or Osinbajo at least let me ask? What do you think he has against both of them?

Indispensable85:


I was actually referring to being politically homogeneous.

As for your last sentence and question,to be honest I think the South West was the winning stroke in 2015,2019 for the APC. If a workman truly deserves his wages, Tinubu for me deserves to be given the APC presidential ticket. That's my take.

Agbegbaorogboye:

Yes. And that political homogeneity is a deliberate one not spontaneous. It is borne out of the reality that they are better and stronger together and an all for one charter amongst their political elite. Look at what is happening with Buni now. The main govs antagonising him are from the same North. That shows the homogeneity is deliberate. Let the North be holding the short end of the political stick and you'll see all of them become one and speak with one voice and one purpose. The South needs to learn that.

The SW was the winning stroke. Yes. But at what cost? It led to rancour and bitterness. And you the SW "progressives" allowed it to foster thinking the North will pay you your wages as you put it. That's what I'm pointing out to you. The North did not share that sentiment. They had their eyes on the ball and did not entertain any appeal to sentiments. It's the fruit of it you're seeing now. Suddenly it's 1960s all over again. Learn from this. When you're going into alliance with power hungry sharks, always ensure your aim is well spelt between both parties and you don't destroy your base on your way to the alliance. It is always better to dine with the devil using a long spoon.
Besides, Tinubu alone can't claim sole credit for installing Buhari. Amaechi also did a lot. So also did Atiku. To give sole credit to Tinubu is just hero worshipping not grounded on any fact.

Indispensable85:


My mention of Tinubu was deliberate. I didn't need to mention the fact that other people contributed to buhari's victory as that's common sense. I stand to be corrected I don't think any single individual provided more arsenal than Tinubu in the south. Buhari flew in his jet around the country in 2015, the bullion van issue is still hanging on his neck till date,he deployed his men to work especially in the south west. How can I mention an Amaechi in that light when he couldn't win his state or any other state in his south south? Tinubu led the March in the south west to win all the states in the west except Ekiti in 2015 and Ondo in 2019. That's massive!

YorobaPIGS:
;DMe too

In bunmi we trust

shinealight:


Party positions are different from Presidential or governorship primaries where even INEC must observe that every aspect of the Electoral Law is complied with. Buhari cannot simply dictate to others in the process of deciding the flagbearer….regardless of wishful thinking on the part of you guys.
Even the Abdullahi Adamu that you mention has not been accepted by everyone and some people are already up in arms against the President for favouring a particular person..…you can imagine if he tries such in the Presidential Primaries. All hell will break loose!!

Truthisunique2:
listen and have sense Oyegun and oshomole came by consensus, so abdullahi would emerge by consensus

Did some clowns not make noise about the zoning formula and still approved it with their hands when they were supposedly in charge of party?

As for presidential primaries the plot is already in motion

They zoned presidency to south, three regions are in south

South east have the position of deputy chairman representing the entire south

South West have the highest position of south as secretary of apc

South south is left out, for equity and justice south south has to be balanced in the sharing of power

There is a reason North Central can not have highest position in party (chairman) and have the highest government position for north Vp at the same time

When the time comes the party NEC would announce that it has microzoned presidency to south south and all NEC decision is final according to the apc constitution attached in screenshot

If any party member outside south south decide to go against apc decision by contesting
the decision in court apc has the power to suspend him

While you have the constitutional right to aspire to contest and be voted for you are not doing so without jurisdiction of a party as an organization that has power to decide what happens within it.

Once presidency is microzoned to south south, it would be more or less a unanimous consensus by the general apc not forced on anyone because they know the primary would just be waste of time as no viable south south person aside amaechi exists

All these I have schooled you is not rocket science, it's a legal pathway on how things would unfold

Ityp penguin2 princeoflagos

Truthisunique2:
listen and have sense Oyegun and oshomole came by consensus, so abdullahi would emerge by consensus

Did some clowns not make noise about the zoning formula and still approved it with their hands when they were supposedly in charge of party?

As for presidential primaries the plot is already in motion

They zoned presidency to south, three regions are in south

South east have the position of deputy chairman representing the entire south

South West have the highest position of south as secretary of apc

South south is left out, for equity and justice south south has to be balanced in the sharing of power

There is a reason North Central can not have highest position in party (chairman) and have the highest government position for north Vp at the same time

When the time comes the party NEC would announce that it has microzoned presidency to south south and all NEC decision is final according to the apc constitution attached in screenshot

If any party member outside south south decide to go against apc decision by contesting
the decision in court apc has the power to suspend him

While you have the constitutional right to aspire to contest and be voted for you are not doing so without jurisdiction of a party as an organization that has power to decide what happens within it.

Once presidency is microzoned to south south, it would be more or less a unanimous consensus by the general apc not forced on anyone because they know the primary would just be waste of time as no viable south south person aside amaechi exists

All these I have schooled you is not rocket science, it's a legal pathway on how things would unfold

Ityp penguin2 princeoflagos

shinealight:


Okay….it seems to me that you’re used to a crooked way of thinking but let’s see if you have a crooked way around this question:
Is Amaechi going to resign as Minister 9 months before the February 2023 elections?