lhordspy:
Lol.

Let's forget about the nuclear threats for now, the westerners can continuing peeing in their pants for now . But let focus on this sentence i got from the entire news. It says:


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'Russian officials speak of the possibility of using tactical nuclear weapons after suffering massive setbacks in the eight-month invasion of Ukraine'
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The funniest sentence i have seen in decades.
Russia just annexed a whole 4 region off ukraine amounting to like 15% of the entire ukraine region. BUT
Guess what? the hypocritical,delusional western medias who are still living in denial or just outrightly off-reality of happening still thinks the ongoing 'special operation' is suffering massive setback.


Oh you western apologists and chearleaders, Let me educate you on the gains of this four regions annexations:

The Donetsk region was Ukraine’s industrial center, accounting for 20% of the country’s industrial production. It is rich in mineral resources, having the fourth-largest coal field in Europe.

The Luhansk region is an important transport hub and is known for its metallurgy, machinery and agricultural industries. It has metallurgical enterprises, chemical and pharmaceutical plants and several coal mines

The Zaporizhzhia region, meanwhile, is the center of energy supply and produces 25% of Ukraine’s electricity. Three powerful energy producers are located in the southeastern region – the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, the largest nuclear facility in Europe, the Dnieper Hydroelectric Station and the Botievo wind farm.
It also has a number of large industrial and mechanical engineering facilities.

The Kherson port region specializes in shipbuilding and is known for its resorts and agriculture. Besides, the entire Azov Sea will also become a part of Russia.


So my people, where is the 'massive setback so far' in this? If it is this same type of setback Nigeria is experiencing right now economically, then we wont still be wallowing in a third-world country tag.

Shalom.

CoronaVirusRelo:



Do you have a cable TV?

So all the media houses around the world are lying?

Or didn’t you listen to Putins speech about drafting? And what did common sense tell you will happen in such scenario?

Oh! The Russian military base that was strikes by HIMAR,s missiles with loads of damaged artillery is western propaganda too?

Stop hyping the shithole please!

Nigerian Armed Forces will defeat Russia if you take away nuclear weapons from them. They over hyped!

Can’t you see the hungry hunters they are parading as soldiers?

And come to think of it! The overhyped shithole is struggling with a nation it shares borders with!

lhordspy:


I am tired of coreecting people like you. I think the best thing is for you guys to just stay away from foreign politics. You understand Nada about it.

Russia just annexed four regiom, about like 15% of Land mass. If they didnt mobilise men, who did yoj expect to guard that place and ensure stability. Dogs? Or sticks?

They needed more men to be able to spread across the four region. Get that into your head

lhordspy:


Zelensky is with a US Green-card already. That was what they promised him to foolishly make his country as battle ground.
He doesnt care anymore if the country is destroyed or the old and young citizens he is mobilizing to war front daily are being killed like ants, he just want to tweet all day on twitter, argue with anybody, cry , demand for more money from EU and NATO and as far as he is getting standing ovations, in every western country parliaments, oscars, grammyetc

I heard he honoured a vogue magazine photoshoot few days ago , A man whose country is being ravage by serious war.

The people of ukraine are just unfortunate. They are the losers in all these.

lhordspy:


Zelensky is with a US Green-card already. That was what they promised him to foolishly make his country as battle ground.
He doesnt care anymore if the country is destroyed or the old and young citizens he is mobilizing to war front daily are being killed like ants, he just want to tweet all day on twitter, argue with anybody, cry , demand for more money from EU and NATO and as far as he is getting standing ovations, in every western country parliaments, oscars, grammyetc

I heard he honoured a vogue magazine photoshoot few days ago , A man whose country is being ravage by serious war.

The people of ukraine are just unfortunate. They are the losers in all these.

Asour:


Let's assume that your figures are correct.

Why did Russia leave those cities?

Lets assume the 2000 Ukraine sacrificed to save Lyman.

What did the 200 Russians die for?

Karnice600:

You run leave deliverance session for MFM.
Something that would've changed your story by now.

CoronaVirusRelo:



Hear yourself!

The overhyped shithole annexed 15% of a country it shares boarders with, after using months to build up around Ukraine boarders.

Do you read what you typing? 15% and already started drafting civilians


Tell me more please!

Can you give me a count of the artilleries that has been lost? So we can see if it’s proportional to the 15%

Should nuclear option even be on the table for Russia if it’s military were that strong? But it tells you Putin is pained!

Doesn’t the whole world now know the shithole is overhyped? What consider

Karnice600:

inwang

Krismas:
War like chess entails moving up and down. Its a game of position and strategy. Wot u can observe right now about Russian positioning, is to gather their troops in more compact formations. Since they are not too many. While the Ukrainians are scattering their forces on all fronts, drawing up forces from Kiev, Odessa etc to dislodge the Russians. The attacking force pay more in lives. By time Russia resume counter, wot will happen to Ukraine troops? This is just an SMO and the Russian army is not even called up yet! But Ukraine is almost spent! No sense

Krismas:
War like chess entails moving up and down. Its a game of position and strategy. Wot u can observe right now about Russian positioning, is to gather their troops in more compact formations. Since they are not too many. While the Ukrainians are scattering their forces on all fronts, drawing up forces from Kiev, Odessa etc to dislodge the Russians. The attacking force pay more in lives. By time Russia resume counter, wot will happen to Ukraine troops? This is just an SMO and the Russian army is not even called up yet! But Ukraine is almost spent! No sense

Krismas:
To capture an empty city of Izum, Ukraine lost over 2000troops.
They even captured an empty ammunition depot
To capture Lyman they lost close to 2000 troops too fighting against just 500 Russians
Why is CNN not talking about dat

IjeBos:


As to Kissinger, our views differ. I believe in sovereign rights. Every country has a right to self determination. If Ukraine wants to join Nato, what is Russia's own? I also don't abide bullies. And don't believe that any country should cede sovereign territory in order to secure peace esp. in 2022. I'm in the US, but that principle is especially necessary for countries with less military strength like those in Africa.

If you do in fact live in Nigeria, the principle of might over right seems very short sighted esp. given our history.

Asour:



If the city was empty, who killed the 2000 Ukrainians you purport? Why did Russia seize an empty city when Kyiv is there?


You're hardly answering the questions.
Just making conjectures.

CoronaVirusRelo:



I cannot believe it has gotten to this!

What happened to the many they had before?


I never knew the military has been reduced to extent of drafting civilians

lhordspy:


did you just reffered me to a mainstream media?? Lmao.

You guys are truly slave of the western world, no wonder it was very easy to enslave Africans back then.

My advice to you sir, stay away from pro-western medias. They twist your brains and make you only see what they want you to see and know only what they want you to know.

No wonder must of you come in here screaming and crying everytime we try to put you on the right part. Most of you are irredeemable. You have been brain-washed behind repair.

Shalom sir

gambojimeta:

The hold is usually via economic means and advanced technology.

A good example is the Nigerian oil industry. The industry is the lifeline of our economy. The expertise of mega European and American cooperation (e.g. Shell, Chevron, Total, Saipem, GE, Bake Hughes, Halliburton, Schlumberger e.t.c) are required to extract the crude from the ground (onshore and offshore). Even the so called indigenous companies rely on expatriates. Nigeria on it's own can't get the crude out if the ground.

Same as Ivory coast or Ghana, how many of these countries can process raw cocoa to chocolate, or process Palm kernel seed. Not many Nigerians or Ghanaian know that there are byproducts of palm kernel seed in close to 50% of the packaged products we find in supermarkets, everything from pizza, doughnuts and chocolate, to deodorant, shampoo, toothpaste and lipstick.

If the collective IQ of African nations continues to remain low unlike that of South Koreans that continues to go high, Africa would always be a slave to either the Chinese, Europeans(including Russians) or America.

Some monkeys burning a burkina building housing french nationals in Burkina Faso won't change anything. They would only end up moving from one master (french) to another master (Russia).

Krismas:
In Kharkiv a withdrawing Russia was a tempting target for the advancing Ukrainian. They abandoned defensive positions which made the Russians speedily cut many down with artillery. U can fire it at 20km with deadly effect.
Putin is not interested in Kiev. He will be foolish to sacrifice for a territory u cannot keep. If he captures Kiev, he will still have to give it up in negotiations or so. Why not focus on where he plans to keep forever?

Asour:



So why was he headed to Kyiv in March/April 2022.

What exactly did he plan to do there?

The Russian soldiers who died in Lyman, Kharkiv, Mykoliav and Kupiansk died for what exactly?

You haven't answered the key questions.

If he never intended to keep the cities Ukraine has now liberated, why did he hold them at the cost of his men's lives.

Why didn't he hold unto ONLY the 4 he has annexed.

I suppose when Ukraine liberates one of the 4 you'll also realize that Russia never needed that one too.

Krismas:
Putin intends to keep Donetsk. That has not been thoroughly liberated. He will still take Kiev, didn’t get me wrong. If that’s wot it takes to end the war, he will. But that’s not d focus.
Those Russians who died? May their souls Rest In Peace. That’s wot war is about.
Why was Putin go to Kiev initially? He had success to some extent, taking Bucha. I believe it’s bad timing. Kiev comes last, then Liviv. Everything in its time

BentizilL:

Then you must stand against Bush, Obama, Blair? If not, you're an hypocrite..

Asour:




What is the meaning of success to some extent?

Did you say in your last comment that he didn't want Kyiv. What then is success to some extent.

As we speak now IS Russia in control of Kyiv?

If NO, what exactly does success to some extent mean.. Also Bucha has since been liberated.
So ?

Krismas:
Were u d one that forced Putin out of snake island? Wisdom is to know wot to keep and wot to leave. In Vietnam, America intended to wrest the country from communist. Wen that goal wasn’t possible, they concentrated in making sure communism didn’t spread thru the region. Wen they couldn’t stop the Taliban, they stayed long enough to make a lot of money for themselves. Goals can change in war. Initially Russia plan to get Ukraine recognize the autonomy of Donbas, wen Ukraine started fighting back, they now made Donbas a part of Russia. With dat move, the rest of Ukraine can join NATO now, it won’t matter again. The rest Ukraine can refuse to demilitarize it won’t matter again. They have removed Russian speaking people out of the place and made Donbas a sufficient buffer btw d west and Moscow. It was not the original plan, I can tell u

Asour:



Who brought America into this discussion.

I never did. Even so, America FAILED in Vietnam & retreated — since you're interested in making comparisons.

Now are you ready to admit that Russia has failed too in the cities theyve been pushed out of?

Krismas:
How can u talk about failure wen a war is still ongoing? The Russians are not obligated to meet ur expectations. Conduct ur war affairs anyhow u fancy. U can even begin to celebrate ur victory for all its worth. The end is what is important

perryy:

Show proof where Putin admired defeat ? Stop your cheap lies.

Asour:



That's fine.

What end do you foresee as victory so we can hold you to your words?

You changed positions more times in this discussion than the Russians have change tactics.

Krismas:
Media showing civilians being forced were old tapes played for ur viewing pleasure. Why is it so easy for the Ukrainians to fool u people? They show u people protesting RESERVISTS’ mobilization but didn’t show u people celebrating it? Or queuing up to get mobilized? Russia is not at war formally. The red army is still at home sleeping. U have not even seen anything yet.

Omeleyi:
Zelensky or whatever your name is
Bon US and make peace with Russia. Whether you like it or not, Russia will still be neighbouring your country till thy kingdom come. By the time they finish your country men maybe you will be ruling trees, your family members and the remaining surviving animals.
Wise up zelensky and go sign peace part. Vawulence and being strong headed will never pay you

CoronaVirusRelo:



You are blaming the media for what Putin declared in a speech by himself?

You lots are something else!

Krismas:
1. Russians will comprehensively wrest 4new regions out of the hands of Ukraine and NATO
2. Russia will capture so many territories to the south, west and north of Ukraine, but only as a bargaining strategy.
3. That’s what will happen in summary

Asour:


Fine.


But what's NATO doing in your prediction.

Ukraine is not a NATO country.

Bargaining for what exactly?