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Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by ShyOne(f): 12:59am On Sep 11, 2011 |
talina: I think you are right - but I am afraid too that it won't be genuine and what Omega said will be true in the end that I will return to the U.S. and it will after a few months go back to being what it is - what he is (this routine person who devalues and/or isn't aware of what turns me on - on a romantic level) Dinners out at restaurants flowers soft music wild sex, routine sex, dirty talk constant I love yous greeting cards "just because" date night what if he isn't into this? I even thought that I should live in Lagos for a while so I can see if he can sustain a "romantic agenda" for a length of time - I don't want to get over there for only a month or two and then we wind of marrying (because I will do it) and then return to the states and because of distance or disagreement or long work days - it goes back to just routine crap every single day And then I will be thinking I have made a huge mistake - I am not trying to involve myself in a loveless marriage and then being obligated to remain in one. He made it clear to me that THERE IS NO DIVORCE and that Americans all they do is divorce all the time. I don't want to fall into thinking about getting a divorce because I married someone that I knew very little about even AFTER THE VISIT I want to know who he is before we ever marry And I feel that I should visit and then stay for a while in the area - We are also doing projects (work projects) together as well and have been doing these projects for almost a year together. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by Nobody: 1:01am On Sep 11, 2011 |
Shy-One: how old are you? Is this how you intend to start your own young life? No wonder the dude has no time for romance . . . he has kids to worry about! You're not the number 1 priority in his life and you will never be so forget all that moaning about no romance. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by MrsChima1(f): 1:03am On Sep 11, 2011 |
Shyone I have read what you have said and I am sensing that you feel self entitled. You have used too many adjectives to describe yourself and then end it with distaste how dare he fall asleep and not speak to you in a way that you feel that you are entitled to. You can't change a man under no circumstance. He is Nigerian first of all so the culture is completely different. Flowers to me is not a big deal because it is a material thing that doesn't show how much he care or love you. A man's show his love by actions and what he does after the talk. If you want that long hour talk and flowers then you really need to spend time with him physically before even discussing marriage. Take the time to get to know him and six months down the line after being with him physically then make your decision. The self entitlement will destroy your marriage before it even begin. Compromise with him and learn about his culture before skipping down the aisle on the beach or the Registry. Communication isn't the only key in successful relationship but learning each other cultures, traditions, and beliefs is also imperative. According to you, he said "Americans" after you mentioned the flowers. He is basically saying you are materialistic, spoiled, and self conceited. That's what MOST people from the East think of the people from the West. 1 Like |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by MrsChima1(f): 1:05am On Sep 11, 2011 |
davidylan: Unfortunately, you are right. She will be competing for attention with his children. If she continue with him she will have to accept the fact that she may not get the attention she thinks she is entitled to. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by ShyOne(f): 1:05am On Sep 11, 2011 |
davidylan: I love spider man There is nothing wrong with being spider man Have you seen that guy hang upside down and swing from building to building? That's my kind of guy davidylan: Noooo, I love the beach - the ocean - the sun - the sand - it's beautiful - the sunset, the sunrise Go to the beach and watch a sunrise or build a fire on the beach during a sunset and fireworks - the reflections that bounce off that ocean are beautiful I want to have a floor built on the beach with big flowers everywhere and crystal glasses and big chinese lanterns and music and people and food so romantic I don't jump from man to man - my husband died in 2009 - I haven't had sex, since 2008 (he got ill in 2008) It is 2011 - and I am still restraining myself - because I hope to tear his limbs apart when I get to Lagos But - now I am not going to do that - because I don' t want to sex, someone that I don't marry - and until I know that we will actually marry - I need to make sure he is "the one" and that we are "right" for each other first. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by Nobody: 1:08am On Sep 11, 2011 |
Shy-One: Aww sorry ma'am. 3 yrs? |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by ShyOne(f): 1:09am On Sep 11, 2011 |
davidylan: Yes 3 years and counting - GOD KNOWS I DO NOT LIE |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by ShyOne(f): 1:13am On Sep 11, 2011 |
Mrs, Chima: Chima: 95% of what you wrote COMPLETELY APPLIES HERE and to you I am grateful - because you ARE RIGHT You better believe I feel entitled - WE ALL SHOULD - because entitlement is EARNED But he already knows and we have proven to each other that neither one of us is Selfish. He is spoiled and I am spoiled to a certain extent and in different ways. Self conceit - neither of us buy into. We are not full of ourselves. We just are ourselves. I need to go and spend time in Lagos before we marry - be there physically at least 6 months. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by ShyOne(f): 1:17am On Sep 11, 2011 |
davidylan: I am in my 30s - he is in his 40s His children - I love them - we will spend time with them together - that isn't an issue at all they are adorable, active and the home environment is very welcoming - I cannot wait to see them or meet them physically we have spoken several times on the phone to each other and celebrated birthdays and christmas I will give my attention to the children as well Children DON'T STOP ROMANCE - ask your parents |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by omega25red(m): 1:18am On Sep 11, 2011 |
so what happened to his wife? |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by obowunmi(m): 1:18am On Sep 11, 2011 |
I suspect Shy-One is a fat woman, who sends money to her boyfriend in Nigeria but he uses that money to fend for his children. I won't be surprised of this man is married. Shy-One you are living in la-la land. Wish you the best. Don't wait too long sha and enjoy the Americana oko a bit. Go to the gym and shed a little weight. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by ShyOne(f): 1:24am On Sep 11, 2011 |
@ Chima You are right - I will learn about his culture and stay in Nigeria for a while omega25red: She died as did my husband obowunmi: I wish you were right - I need some fat - but romance means more to me than food - I need to put on some weight - when I am unhappy or stressed or nervous, I cannot eat I love the gym - all I do is gym - it helps keep my mind sharp - but A MAJOR SIDE EFFECT is you want sex, all the time - I struggle to keep my mind off of sex, He is not here for me to exhaust myself. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by ShyOne(f): 1:26am On Sep 11, 2011 |
@ obo I just reread what you wrote He has more money than me - I called him for a loan 2 months ago which he processed on my behalf. My little American money is very small compared to his. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by MrsChima1(f): 1:27am On Sep 11, 2011 |
Shy-One: Self conceit is self entitlement and it can go either way a good thing or a bad thing. However the first step spend time with him physically and go from there. Hold the marriage talk until you guys resolve the differences/issues because as you stated the guy doesn't believe in divorce. You don't want to go into a marriage thinking you will be divorce (not saying that's what you are thinking) anytime divorce enter the mind or conversation soon it becomes a realization. Children doesn't stop romance but his children were before you so therefore you will have to think would you accept being second fiddle and lose some of the potential romance or be with someone that will give all that you think you are entitled to? Generally speaking, anyone that get into a relationship with someone that is culturally different must take in consideration of issues that may arise and how are you planning on dealing with them collectively. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by ShyOne(f): 1:43am On Sep 11, 2011 |
tellwisdom: Yes - many people are shooting this down But - it's too late - I fell in love so I am going to Lagos - it still doesn't affect the fact that he is and has been pulling back for whatever reasons - tired, children, etc. I need him as engaging as he was when we met or at least very close to that level. omega25red: DC - is wonderful - I was there 4 weeks ago - so you moved to DC? I am proud of you - Chocolate City and the home of the Capital of this Country I need him and love him and will move to Lagos for while. God - please help me in that land. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by ShyOne(f): 1:54am On Sep 11, 2011 |
Mrs, Chima: Chima - I don't know about everything you have written. The children speak to me and are wonderful - sweet, so very sweet. Precious ones and they already call me mum. We will love each other. The culture - I am afraid actually - I just don't know how this will work He and I have both been married before - and so we are both used to a certain type of interaction and we will subconsciously compare each other to our previous mates. THAT IS NATURAL and can't be undone - but we have opened our selves up to being with a new mate in the form of each other. I can make compromises - I CAN TAKE A MILLION HITS FOR THE TEAM - I can, I have and I will. But I also am hearing and reading so much about Nigerian men - the Nigerian Fight for Public Services that affect the romance of the Nigerian male. If I can suck his d1ck in the dark, he can eat my punni in the light - THAT STATEMENT MEANS THIS TO ME - I am making all sorts of sacrifices to date this Nigerian man and in turn giving me his energy even when he is tired, being romantic instead of grabbing remote controls to the tv, giving me his emotions instead of holding back - that is eating my punni - especially since we aren't in physical proximity to each other yet. We can sex, each other in different ways. Then just the fact that less than 2 years into the relationship I have to tell him this or even mention it - is a huge slap to my pride and to my face. Part of being a man and part of being a woman is to know these things. I will do EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID - be friends, stop talking marriage to him or dating or anything - focus on the business(s) when I arrive in Lagos and wait and observe the moves he makes - I will not be staying with him in his home while I am there - so I will be able to see him from enough of a distance to see if he ups the ante in the romance department. If he doesn't - I will just make the money I went there to make and return from my travels with a new perspective - free to actually start dating for the first time in years - which is and will be fun in itself. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by MrsChima1(f): 2:02am On Sep 11, 2011 |
Shy-One: The kids are not the issue however know that his attention will be divided between you, children, and running his business. If that is not an issue with you GREAT. You are doing a wise thing by spending time with him and see where it goes. If he continue neglecting what you feel that you are entitled to hen at least you gave it a shot. You mentioned some things that you are aware of about the conditions in Nigeria and if you are okay with that then you shouldn't have bigger fishes to fry. Bring plenty of SOS spray from AVON and take extra packets of Malaria pills with you. Mosquitos there isn't like Mosquitos in the States. Oooh lawd chile! Also be careful that sex may not be a big deal with him as well. I am sure he will engage in sexual activities with you but it won't be a focal activity as you feel is important. So that is something you may have to consider as well. He may not be into MouthAction, sucking the toes, and biting the ear. He may be a simple Nigerian man who enjoys simple things in life without the extra wahala. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by ShyOne(f): 2:13am On Sep 11, 2011 |
@ Chima I saw your add IF he is a "simple Nigerian man" that sex, isn't important for him to extend to ME: We won't marry. He loves oral - receiving it He has never given oral to anyone and he asked me how important this is to me To put it mildly my deceased husband would have won a Guiness Book of World Record Prize for giving the best MouthAction, Which means that this is what I am used to RECEIVING anytime of the day or night. I will see just how selfish he is if he receives it from me and DOESN'T GIVE IT TO ME. I will see and that will be the first and last time we get down together. Sex, is definitely important to him. I have only met ONE MAN in my life who didn't like oral (receiving it or giving it) Most men if they don't give oral - still want to receive oral. I refuse to participate with someone who is one sided at ANYTHING at all. So I am really studying him for signs in that area as well as in other areas. I will be his friend first before I give myself carte blanche - I need to receive as well as I give. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by ShyOne(f): 2:15am On Sep 11, 2011 |
Also that Skin So Soft is excellent for mosquitoes Chima when you visited Africa - did you use it there? I already ordered it last month - and I was hoping the African mosquitoes are allergic to it like the U.S. mosquitoes. I also have some rubbing alcohol and some powder boric acid ready for the African roaches I hear about too. Let's hope they aren't immune to U.S. products |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by ShyOne(f): 2:17am On Sep 11, 2011 |
I know - his attention will be divided and it has been since we met with the children, me and the business. The business takes all of his time all of the time. Even sometimes on the weekend - as does mine as well. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by MrsChima1(f): 2:31am On Sep 11, 2011 |
Shy-One: I bathed in SOS when I was over there. Nigeria wasn't the only African countries I visited and Mosquitos in other countries were just as bad in Nigeria. I suggest you spend time outside during the daytime and inside during the night fall. If you must go out at night keep your arms and legs covered. Buy a few sundresses if you don't have any and get a few shrugs to cover your upper arms and back. It is warm during the daytime and cool during the night fall. I was invited to a party almost every night when I was over there. The circle I was in love to party and have fun. They are younger though so you may not doing too much dancing seeing your guy is older and have children. But ask him to take you dancing at least once or twice so you can see how he is with peers in a public setting. I am going to Nigeria for the holidays because my bolo (aunt) daughter is getting married and I am one of the Matron of Honor. So I have stocked up on my skin protection and all. I will be singing a song at the wedding as well. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by ShyOne(f): 3:50am On Sep 11, 2011 |
Mrs, Chima: I don't drink or party - but I will like to see the night life and see Nigerians interacting with each other and yes I want him to take me out. But until I see where this is going - I am going to limit our contact to more professional and less personal. I don't want to feel any more attached to him emotionally than I already am and I don't want to see him dancing and fall in love with him all over again and then be aware that the relationship just cannot go anywhere at all. Be of our differences. I need someone who I am comfortable with and who is very similiar to me - we have to evenly yoked - not in everything but there are some areas that I can't compromise - sex, is one of them, affection (openly) is another. I will probably do a hotel the first few weeks and then get housing (temporary) - I can't see myself staying in a hotel for 6 months especially the costs of the hotels I see. The Excellence is where I will stay as it is in the area and it will be costly so I will stay there for a few weeks while I house hunt. Chima thank you so much for the heads up and advice you are giving to me. If you have an email - send an email to my address that is listed on NL and I will send you a phone number so we can talk or even get together while you are in Nigeria. I will still be there when you come over from the states. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by ShyOne(f): 3:51am On Sep 11, 2011 |
@ Chima You said you bathed in it? I am afraid to sit in the water because I don't want anything on me that could be in the water. I will shower. But you are saying it is ok to sit in the water? |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by Nobody: 3:57am On Sep 11, 2011 |
Shy-One: @shy, hey sis. do you think the difference in location MAY if even a little bit, play a role in your questioning the future of the relationship? i feel that his 'one-sidedness' and his what seems to be selfish ways is one thing but perhaps deep down with all of that being said the distance to you may now have a reason to reconsider dealing with his bull. i HAVE been there. I've dated L.D. in the past and came to the conclusion that nothing hurts a guy who has major flaws and is in a L.D.R than the distance itself. Not sure how to word this. lol hmmm. . .My point is my putting up with a man who lives with me or in the same town who has ways about him that i do not care for is one thing but him having these flaws and being a whole continent away is another. Maybe that's the issue for you. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by Nobody: 4:09am On Sep 11, 2011 |
UPDATE: Shy-One: SIS, NEVER let anyone deter you from your goals or dreams! Follow your heart! If your heart says LAGOS, then lagos it is. Just PLEASE be careful sis. Make sure you have what my mom calls "Get vex money" in other words money in the event that there is a fall out and you need to return. I wish you ALL the best! If he is willing to compromise on s3x and the various issues in the relationship period it will work out. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by ShyOne(f): 4:36am On Sep 11, 2011 |
MsDarkSkin: Dang this is why I love you soo much and I don't even know you. Of everyone you have completely NAILED IT. You and that girl with the name that starts with a T - she wrote on page one - I forget her name now at this moment. Your first paragraph - I understood you clearly. I guess its the distance. And his flaws aren't flaws to him or to a woman who is OK with it. But to me - they are flaws and to him - I have flaws as well. WE are just really different - really different and CULTURE is a major difference. But Mz. D - I love him even for his differences - I write this now and my heart hurts - I see his face and his glasses and his smile and want to fling myself at him because I love him so much. This continent thing - if he were here and I was there - I would be with him. But the sex thing - I can tell he is very good in that area - but the oral - he will have to give or no part of his body will enter my mouth. I don't give unless I get. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by ShyOne(f): 4:39am On Sep 11, 2011 |
MsDarkSkin: I feel strongly that when I go to Lagos it will be good - better than even my wildest dreams and I dream in color. I feel like we will be very, very, very good together. I will take "vex" money - I have already contacted several people in that area and they have been given a heads-up for me and are awaiting my arrival. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by Nobody: 4:41am On Sep 11, 2011 |
Good luck shy-one. I also wish you the best |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by MrsChima1(f): 4:45am On Sep 11, 2011 |
Shy-One: Oh no! I am talking about bathing in SOS. No I did not sit in their water. Only shower. Its not safe to sit in their water because of parasites and things. You gon be taking a lot of baths because of the dirt and heat if you are not there during raining season. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by ShyOne(f): 4:59am On Sep 11, 2011 |
talina: Thank you so much - You, Mz. D and Chima and even a few of the guys have been wonderful and soo helpful - I was upset since yesterday. I feel that I will be much calmer once I get there and see him and am with him - It will be much different - maybe this is last minute (for the next few weeks) - nervousness and fear because it is coming much closer and much sooner. Mrs, Chima: oooo - bathing in SOS - got it - thank you - made me nervous because I heard the water is like that - I wonder do the homes have filters attached to filter the water - also I heard that before I eat the vegetables and fruit to clean them in a water that has a little bit of bleach if I use the water there and don't use bottled water to clean my food. I have been doing detailed research - very detailed. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by MrsChima1(f): 5:10am On Sep 11, 2011 |
You will spend quite a fortune buying bottled water and if I was you bring two bottles of veggie cleansers. Go to Walmart or some place similar and ask a specialist for something to clean veggies and fruits that is bio safe. You should bring some Germ X or Purell to clean your hands and things. I suggest you bring some Wet Ones to put in your purse for emergencies when you are out on the road. Any drugs and personal hygiene that you are accustomed to bring it. Aspirins, Tampons, Pepsto Bismol, Eye drops, Alcohol, anything that you use on a regular basis bring it because different products over there may not work for you so it is good to bring things you are used to until you adapt to their products. I don't suggest you wash you hair unless you planning on using bottled water but wash your hair good and braid your hair. Wash your face and brush your teeth with bottled water as well. These are some of things Embassy will tell you if you have a good caseworker. |
Re: I Need To Feel Those Feelings - Nl I Need Your Advice by Nobody: 5:20am On Sep 11, 2011 |
"Soundboarding" and input can really help with things. It always helps me talk it out to find the right course in challenging matters. I cant imagine the nervousness you must feel! Mrs Chima has given you some good advice. And dont forget to listen to that inner voice. |
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