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Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by Igwe9(m): 3:10pm On Jun 05, 2023
Tareq1105:


He did not contradict himself, he only said the obvious bcoz FCT is part of Nigeria territory and the Nigeria constitution says all votes are equal.

None of the federating units of Nigeria (36 states+FCT) is greater or special than others.

In other words, the votes of Nigerians residing in FCT cannot be greater or more special than that of Nigerians in Bayelsa state.
if that's the case, it should have been the simply majority since all votes are equal?

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Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by olusogo: 3:11pm On Jun 05, 2023
MrCGPA:
Nigerians are Keenly Waiting for how the Court will Rule on the FCT Compulsory 25%. FCT produces only two Senators since it's not a State Why states produce 3. LP results were Reduced tremendously in Abuja, Lagos and Rivers State and people know every game that played. Let's see if the Constitution will be Changed because of Tinubu.

The question you should be asking is why 25% in FCT more important than Enugu, Osun or Taraba State?

It is long settled that FCT is not different from other States of the Federation. Nigeria has 37 States and FCT meaning to be treated like 38 States.

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Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by Tareq1105: 3:11pm On Jun 05, 2023
Isobug:

You are daft.....Those that did that way did it because they regarded FCT as a mini Nigeria where every states of the federation is represented proportionally. If you win the FCT, then a good number of people from all states voted

What about Lagos?

Tell me any tribe that is not proportionally represented in Lagos?

If representation of a good number of people from all states of the federation was the intention of the drafters of the 1999 Constitution then Lagos has more representation of Nigerians than FCT.

So, let no one deceive you, the federating units (36 states and FCT) of Nigeria is one constituency and no unit is greater or lesser than others..

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Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by TheOldGods: 3:12pm On Jun 05, 2023
lagonovo:

grin I dey work and type

Chapter II Section 15(2)
Chapter II Section 17(2)a
Chapter IV Section 42(1)b
oga, this your sections are talking about rights of Nigerians, we are not talking about rights here. We are talking about abuja being a state or not, and what special powers it has.
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by gly(m): 3:12pm On Jun 05, 2023
josilcool:
Atiku did not have 25% in FCT and also 2/3 of the federation. He came 2nd

Obi did not have 25% in 2/3 of the federation but have it in FCT. He came 3rd

Tinubu did not have 25% in FCT but have it in 2/3 of the federation. He came 1st

Who is now qualify to be declare as president..?

This one is just the premise of FCT 25% Saga! The issue of rigging and electoral fraudare still warming up! At the end things will sort themselves out and the right winner will be handed over the throne.

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Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by presidentBAT: 3:12pm On Jun 05, 2023
N3TRAL:
It's amusing when adults think like kids. To believe that Tinubu will lose in court must be associated with low IQ and emotional intelligence level.

Hope is not enough to stop Tinubu.

The Court of Appeal or the Supreme Court will not cancel the elections or declare another candidate winner.

Stop wasting your resources, keep your house together and fight back in 2027 at the polls.

Confirm !
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by Capernum: 3:13pm On Jun 05, 2023
N3TRAL:
It's amusing when adults think like kids. To believe that Tinubu will lose in court must be associated with low IQ and emotional intelligence level.

Hope is not enough to stop Tinubu.

The Court of Appeal or the Supreme Court will not cancel the elections or declare another candidate winner.

Stop wasting your resources, keep your house together and fight back in 2027 at the polls.

You're worse than an Ugandan.

What is the full meaning of I.Q?

How do you know it's height?

is it as high as presuming that a court can't nullify an election if was proven beyond all doubts that it was rigged?

OR

Is it as low as assuming you know better than several judges at the tribunal?

Oga carry your IQ and shift make we sit down.
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by AdoOloro(m): 3:14pm On Jun 05, 2023
savcy:
Not Quite.
Big lie!
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by wirinet(m): 3:16pm On Jun 05, 2023
josilcool:
Atiku did not have 25% in FCT and also 2/3 of the federation. He came 2nd

Obi did not have 25% in 2/3 of the federation but have it in FCT. He came 3rd

Tinubu did not have 25% in FCT but have it in 2/3 of the federation. He came 1st

Who is now qualify to be declare as president..?
The Constitution prescribes a run off between the top two candidates.

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Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by THeUNIFIER: 3:17pm On Jun 05, 2023
N3TRAL:
It's amusing when adults think like kids. To believe that Tinubu will lose in court must be associated with low IQ and emotional intelligence level.

Hope is not enough to stop Tinubu.

The Court of Appeal or the Supreme Court will not cancel the elections or declare another candidate winner.

Stop wasting your resources, keep your house together and fight back in 2027 at the polls.


It is equally amusing that you're putting sentiments above the rule of law by discrediting those in courts. By so doing you may not want to hear but you're the kid here. Now if indeed the LP and PDP has substantial, credible evidences against the APC and INEC then by all means they should pursue their causes.

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Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by mildteddy(m): 3:17pm On Jun 05, 2023
N3TRAL:
It's amusing when adults think like kids. To believe that Tinubu will lose in court must be associated with low IQ and emotional intelligence level.

Hope is not enough to stop Tinubu.

The Court of Appeal or the Supreme Court will not cancel the elections or declare another candidate winner.

Stop wasting your resources, keep your house together and fight back in 2027 at the polls.

E go shock you
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by ejimatic: 3:18pm On Jun 05, 2023
FCT is like any other state grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by wirinet(m): 3:20pm On Jun 05, 2023
olusogo:


The question you should be asking is why 25% in FCT more important than Enugu, Osun or Taraba State?

It is long settled that FCT is not different from other States of the Federation. Nigeria has 37 States and FCT meaning to be treated like 38 States.

Because FCT is not allowed to elect its own governor and legislature. Since the president assumes the role of the governor common sense demands that he should have at least have minimum level of support from the people.
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by hardbody: 3:20pm On Jun 05, 2023
lagonovo:

Where did you pull that from? You guys simply have no clue how the law works so it's better for you to just keep observing until we have a ruling. You can't just manufacture any IF statement that suits your fancy unless you are prepared to show any section of our constitution that mentioned 'Governor of FCT'.

Oga with your profound knowledge of how the law works, what is the literal interpretation of the section of the law relevant to Abuja as a FCT.
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by Alamkir: 3:20pm On Jun 05, 2023
wwwkaycom:
You can be sure that obidients will take this to town and dance naked in the market square because of the "good news". Meanwhile, the witness, Madaki also contradicted himself under cross examination by counsel to the All Progressives Congress (APC), Lateef Fagbemi (SAN), by admitting that FCT is like any other state.
Obi goes no where friends, no amount of falsehood, half truths or misinterpretation of our constitution can help Obi to win at the tribunal, ire o!

They are already doing that on twitter, they even change d whole narrative. U know how they do
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by wirinet(m): 3:21pm On Jun 05, 2023
ejimatic:
FCT is like any other state grin cheesy grin cheesy

It is not. All its lands had been taken over by the Federal government and they are not allowed the people to represent them in a democracy.
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by MatrixCircle: 3:22pm On Jun 05, 2023
josilcool:
Atiku did not have 25% in FCT and also 2/3 of the federation. He came 2nd

Obi did not have 25% in 2/3 of the federation but have it in FCT. He came 3rd

Tinubu did not have 25% in FCT but have it in 2/3 of the federation. He came 1st

Who is now qualify to be declare as president..?

Tinubu did not even have 2/3 of the total vote cast across the federation according to new evidence in court from Form EC8A across many states signed by INEC.

Obi won the election.

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Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by Chiderao1(m): 3:22pm On Jun 05, 2023
Constitution,
Chapter 6. Part 1. Section 134. Election: Two Or More Presidential Candidates

(1) A candidate for an election to the office of President shall be deemed to have be been duly elected, where, there being only two candidates for the election –
(a) he has the majority of votes cast at the election; and
(b) he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.
TRANSLATION

This statement outlines the criteria for a candidate to be considered duly elected for the office of President in a specific election scenario where only two candidates are competing. To be deemed duly elected, the candidate must satisfy two conditions:

(a) The candidate must have the majority of votes among those cast in the election. This means they need to receive more votes than the other candidate.

(b) Additionally, the candidate must obtain at least one-quarter (25%) of the votes in each of at least two-thirds (66.67%) of all the states within the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja. In simpler terms, the candidate needs to secure a significant portion of votes in a majority of the states.

These conditions aim to ensure that the elected candidate has both popular support, as indicated by a majority of overall votes, and a broad level of regional support by having a significant portion of votes across multiple states.
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by samuelson06(m): 3:23pm On Jun 05, 2023
datola:
All these lawyers are learners.

How can an ordinary FCT that's not even uqual to a state in status form the main basis of winning Nigeri's presidential elections..

I'm even more surprised the once respected Olisa Agbakoba is also alluding to the same folly.


The duty of the lawyers is to defend the constitution and the constitution isn't about anybody but Nigeria. It's very clear what the constitution says in regards to the matter at hand. Do you rather prefer the constitution be trampled because of one man?

Remember, both of us were not there when that clause was included in the constitution. So, it's immaterial to start comparing Abuja with other states but what the law says. I hope you understand.

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Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by hardbody: 3:24pm On Jun 05, 2023
olusogo:


The question you should be asking is why 25% in FCT more important than Enugu, Osun or Taraba State?

It is long settled that FCT is not different from other States of the Federation. Nigeria has 37 States and FCT meaning to be treated like 38 States.

There is no question. Where you people come up with Nigeria suddenly having 37 states instead of the 36 we have in the constitution beffudles me.

Answer

FCT is a territory, Enugu, Osun and Taraba are states as you righlty mentioned, please call FCT a state too
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by josilcool(m): 3:26pm On Jun 05, 2023
okuta007:


have you heard the word “run off” before ?

Nigeria is supposed to have a constitution- Nigeria is not ruled by emotions or gut feelings like you are insinuating here

I'm not a fans of any Nigeria politician, so I'm not insinuating anything.. But, hope you know that the constitution stated it clear that if there will be run off, It will only be between 1st and 2nd, that means 1st and 2nd need to be sorted out first
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by garfield1: 3:27pm On Jun 05, 2023
Isobug:

You are daft.....Those that did that way did it because they regarded FCT as a mini Nigeria where every states of the federation is represented proportionally. If you win the FCT, then a good number of people from all states voted

Is that what they told you? Where you in their minds? Lagos is more of a mini nigeria
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by hardbody: 3:27pm On Jun 05, 2023
samuelson06:


The duty of the lawyers is to defend the constitution and the constitution isn't about anybody but Nigeria. It's very clear what the constitution says in regards to the matter at hand. Do you rather prefer the constitution be trampled because of one man?

Remember, both of us were not there when that clause was included in the constitution. So, it's immaterial to start comparing Abuja with other states but what the law says. I hope you understand.

For once i celebrate the Prof that taught me Interpretation of Statutes during the course on Constitutional and Administrative Law. How even legal colleagues struggle with this literal interpretation supported by the mischief rule is very worrisome, except they are deliberately being mischievous

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Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by ezechi242: 3:28pm On Jun 05, 2023
wwwkaycom:
You can be sure that obidients will take this to town and dance naked in the market square because of the "good news". Meanwhile, the witness, Madaki also contradicted himself under cross examination by counsel to the All Progressives Congress (APC), Lateef Fagbemi (SAN), by admitting that FCT is like any other state.
Obi goes no where friends, no amount of falsehood, half truths or misinterpretation of our constitution can help Obi to win at the tribunal, ire o!


E pain am... grin grin
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by gigabyte13: 3:29pm On Jun 05, 2023
Dem dis one still dey day dream
Dey bed wet join
Make una still dey find OBI manhood up and down.....
Na una go tire Las Las.
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by 12inchess: 3:30pm On Jun 05, 2023
Abuja people dey craze if we have to get 25% in Abuja to announce president in Nigeria.
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by DMerciful(m): 3:31pm On Jun 05, 2023
If they don't fight now, 2027 will be far more rigged than 2023!
N3TRAL:
It's amusing when adults think like kids. To believe that Tinubu will lose in court must be associated with low IQ and emotional intelligence level.

Hope is not enough to stop Tinubu.

The Court of Appeal or the Supreme Court will not cancel the elections or declare another candidate winner.

Stop wasting your resources, keep your house together and fight back in 2027 at the polls.
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by Psoul(m): 3:32pm On Jun 05, 2023
datola:
All these lawyers are learners.

How can an ordinary FCT that's not even uqual to a state in status form the main basis of winning Nigeri's presidential elections..

I'm even more surprised the once respected Olisa Agbakoba is also alluding to the same folly.

You guys are too emotional and reason like kids.
Was this part of the constitution made during this election?

Assuming there is a part of the constitution that says that if they catch somebody that steals one wrap of sweet, he will be killed by firing squad. If this portion becomes a part of the law and probably not very popular cos no one has bn found guilty of this offence and we keep going.

Maybe, one day, a child is caught and brought to court and the judge sentenced him to death by firing squad. Ppl will start protesting and saying that the punishment is too harsh for that offence. The protest is irrelevant cos you don't expect the judge to change that part of the law with that case at hand. That part of the constitution can only be amended when there's no cases it's application is depended on at that material time.

So, the 25% win of the FCT makes no sense, but it's part of our constitution. It has to be applied in this case. After that, the house can go for it's amendment before next election. Anyone protesting against it's application now is bn illogically emotional and law has no respect for emotion.
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by sunray(m): 3:34pm On Jun 05, 2023
MrCGPA:
Nigerians are Keenly Waiting for how the Court will Rule on the FCT Compulsory 25%. FCT produces only two Senators since it's not a State Why states produce 3. LP results were Reduced tremendously in Abuja, Lagos and Rivers State and people know every game that played. Let's see if the Constitution will be Changed because of Tinubu.

FCT has one (1) senator in the Senate not 2.

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Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by Gentew(m): 3:34pm On Jun 05, 2023
Felabrity:
Thy should disqualify each other and announce Peter Obi as the winner, so Nigerians can be happy

This one is a disaster

Point of correction, so Igbo can be happy
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by Metaverse: 3:36pm On Jun 05, 2023
SalamRushdie:


Judgement is not only about Justice , there is something called best interest standard to look out for , you must weigh your judgement so it's passage doesn't bring about a situation worse than non passage ..Imagine removing Tinubu and the whole SW turns into civil unrest the claims the lives of thousands and renders millions jobless ? Nigeria is tribal cesspit where tribes will support the person no matter what and especially now that he has been sworn in

The best interest standard to look out for and protect against all odds in this case is the integrity of the constitution of the Republic and the absolute need for it to be respected at all times, as failure to do so now would lead to far more catastrophic consequences down the line. Justice is the core of every constitutional Republic and those who seek to violate it in any way must be met with appropriate consequences, including any judge who seeks to pervert the course of justice as well as those who may instigate and, or participate in the said potential civil unrest.
Re: Presidency: Lack Of 25% In FCT Disqualifies Atiku, Tinubu - PDP Witness by lagonovo: 3:37pm On Jun 05, 2023
Another very important but difficult to discuss 'factor'. Can you win a debate on this basis? No. Is it the practical reality in most systems? Yes lol

SalamRushdie:


Judgement is not only about Justice , there is something called best interest standard to look out for , you must weigh your judgement so it's passage doesn't bring about a situation worse than non passage ..Imagine removing Tinubu and the whole SW turns into civil unrest the claims the lives of thousands and renders millions jobless ? Nigeria is tribal cesspit where tribes will support the person no matter what and especially now that he has been sworn in

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