MayntheeMayn:

How do you know that there is a different world if it is not visible to the naked eye, how did you reach the conclusion?

I've answered your question. I knew by following the laid down rules for exploring it.

HisSplendor:


You've heard it yourself before that there's an invisible world.

Same you said “Stop relying on others for your finds. Talk for yourself.”

HisSplendor:

I've answered your question. I knew by following the laid down rules for exploring it.

Relying on others i see.

HisSplendor:

We already won something much more valuable. Something really tangible and everlasting. Who cares for a perishable prize in Sweden?

Those things only exist in your feeble mind, you cannot substantiate it to me or any other person that don't believe in your fiction

Workch:
Those things only exist in your feeble mind, you cannot substantiate it to me or any other person that don't believe in your fiction

No, I can make you feel it. You'll be touching a world from another world. You'll need to follow the rules for exploration.

MayntheeMayn:

Relying on others i see.

Read me again please. No one gets there by relying on others. That's what you've done all your life. Not so for me.

HisSplendor:

No, I can make you feel it. You'll be touching a world from another world. You'll need to follow the rules for exploration.

Do you think I'm one of those morons you talk to in your sunday school? 😂

HisSplendor:

Read me again please. No one gets there by relying on others. That's what you've done all your life. Not so for me.

Same you said “Stop relying on others for your finds. Talk for yourself.”, same you said “ You've heard it yourself before that there's an invisible world.”

MayntheeMayn:

Same you said “Stop relying on others for your finds. Talk for yourself.”

Yes, you must first hear before verifying, is that not? Whatever you explore today, you first heard about it, then you go on a verifying exploration.

HisSplendor:


Yes, you must first hear before verifying, is that not? Whatever you explore today, you first heard about it, then you go on a verifying exploration.

How can I verify and explore something that my naked eye can’t see?
An invisible different world.

Workch:
Do you think I'm one of those morons you talk to in your sunday school? 😂

Neither am I one of those morons who share in your delusional ideologies.

Workch:
Those things only exist in your feeble mind, you cannot substantiate it to me or any other person that don't believe in your fiction

As I said, I can substantiate it to you.

HisSplendor:

Neither am I one of those morons who share in your delusional ideologies.

I can't also make you feel the flying spaghetti monster. He exist and I know this because you have not dig enough.

I also think that the flying spaghetti monster is the creator of yahweh, the Christian God. I can make you feel this
The evidence for flying spaghetti monster is below

MayntheeMayn:

How can I verify and explore something that my naked eye can’t see?

By following the rules of its exploration.

HisSplendor:


As I said, I can substantiate it to you.

I want substantiate mine to you as well.
Flying spaghetti monster is the real God. If you don't know this, then you have not dig deep enough

HisSplendor:

By following the rules of its exploration.

Whose rules?
The people that made the rules, which rule did they follow to explore?

Workch:
I can't also make you feel the flying spaghetti monster. He exist and I know this because you have not dig enough.

I also think that the flying spaghetti monster is the creator of yahweh, the Christian God. I can make you feel this
The evidence for flying spaghetti monster is below

I'm done with you already. I've passed my message.

MayntheeMayn:

Whose rules?
The people that made the rules, which rule did they follow to explore?

I'm done with you already. I've passed my message.

HisSplendor:

I'm done with you already. I've passed my message.

You don't want to accept the flying spaghetti monster as your lord and personal savior?

HisSplendor:

I'm done with you already. I've passed my message.

When jesus was alive, what did he call “god” in his language, aramaic.

Start to dig that 😂

HisSplendor:

I'm done with you already. I've passed my message.

I'm sure you now realize how stupid you were sounding to me

Workch:

I'm sure you now realize how stupid you were sounding to me

You can be stupid only if you're speaking from the air. If you think I'm speaking from the air, then you're drawing conclusions without evidence.

HisSplendor:

You can be stupid only if you're speaking from the air. If you think I'm speaking from the air, then you're drawing conclusions without evidence.

I'm also not speaking from the air for flying spaghetti monster

Workch, i want you to know that your concept of “god” is flawed, and also “god” is a title not a person, a deistic god claiming to be a creator is already leaning towards monotheism. Because it’s only in monotheism that a “god” is a creator and has all those weird attributes.

You are thinking of god as a creator outside of his creation just like the owner of apple is outside the Apple products itself.

if a Creator created everything, then everything that was Created is, in essence, the Creator.
if a Creator created everything, then the Creator is also everything that was Created.


The whole universe is the Plenum.

HisSplendor:

Yeah, it's found outside my head in His own world. He has the right to live in His own world. Doesn't He?

Where is that world? How do you reach that world?

Workch:
The claim is not baseless, it would be baseless if you know how the singularity that expanded into our current universe got there.
If you do not have answer for this, then the claim is one of the hypotheses that needs to be falsified, especially the deistic claim.

An hypothesis is never baseless until it has been falsified. A deistic concept of god is yet to be falsified unlike what you have in Christianity.

It is is baseless if you are giving attributes to the god. If you are simply saying there could be a god then it would be different. You are giving the god attributes BEFORE you have any evidence.

Workch:
nope, theists are like the people who try to describe an alien that they don't know exist.

For me, i dont know if aliens exist or not and I don't believe or believe it. If it does exist, I don't know the nature of it and I even think that we may never know it it exist or not and it doesn't play any significant role in my life. That's scientific.

Agnosticism is of the essence of science, whether ancient or modern. It simply means that a man shall not say he knows or believes/disbelieves that which he has no scientific grounds for professing to know or believe/disbelieve. It is why atheism is not scientific

You didn't answer the question: how does your description of who an atheist is not apply to me?

Where have I said I disbelieve? You're just making unfounded assumptions, that is what is not scientific.

LordReed:


You didn't answer the question: how does your description of who an atheist is not apply to me?

Where have I said I disbelieve? You're just making unfounded assumptions, that is what is not scientific.

Because you asserted that a god might exist so you do not outrightly disbelieve it.

LordReed:


It is is baseless if you are giving attributes to the god. If you are simply saying there could be a god then it would be different. You are giving the god attributes BEFORE you have any evidence.

Where did i give god attributes?
Deist say that their God does not intervene, it's an attribute. You will easily verify this if you can find how everything started but we cannot. We are incapable of doing that, at least for now

Workch:
Because you asserted that a god might exist so you do not outrightly disbelieve it.

Where in your description does it mention disbelief?

Workch:
Where did i give god attributes?
Deist say that their God does not intervene, it's an attribute. You will easily verify this if you can find how everything started but we cannot. We are incapable of doing that, at least for now

Yes that is an attribute you are giving the god BEFORE you have evidence, so it is indeed baseless.

Workch:
Where did i give god attributes?
Deist say that their God does not intervene, it's an attribute. You will easily verify this if you can find how everything started but we cannot. We are incapable of doing that, at least for now

They already said the deist god is the creator, is that not an attribute?