Workch:
yes, you can't. On what ground would you do that?

Lemme ask you the reverse. On what ground should I believe in aliens or a god?

jaephoenix:

1. Do you have problems with logic? Lemme repeat. Did Jobs have any covenant with his iPhones? Did he create any of them in hos image? You guys allege Yahweh created us in his image, didn't you? Or you have forgotten? So how can you compare humans who are created in the makers image to a non living phone?
2. How is evolution scientific mythology? You well so? And who told you humans and animals have stopped evolving? Arent you aware humans are changing? The way we are now isn't the way we were thousands of years ago. Even some organs in the body we have are now vestiges cos of evolution. Example appendix and cocxyx(tail bone)
I really need to know the school you graduated from. It's an emergency! And you said they made you a biologist? Wtf!
3. Lol. Which critics say JW are too united? All I have to do is search ex-JWs on Google and I'll have all the gory details of the stuff yall do. But of course, you'll say they're all lies. So its no use to bestials like you
Stealing is a human survival trait. If I leave you hungry for 3 days and I keep a loaf of bread beside you, would you leave it alone? Grow a lil brain, amigo!

1. You said if God exists, he must reveal himself to you (as if it is everything that exists we can see). In same analysis, reveal who made your phone... By the way, what has a phonemaker got to do with making a phone in it's image... Maxindhouse, come and heal this guy

2. Has evolution passed the scientific approach? Yes or No... Science says life cannot emerge from inorganic matter, evolution says otherwise. Science says parents give birth to like offspring, evolution says otherwise... Evolution seems to break everything

3. Mo foo... The best way to know about an organization or person is by asking those who are opposers with such a person right? If you want to marry a girl, is it logical for her to meet your former friends knowing they hate you and openly say all kinds of negative things about you?

I award you the Vicar of Unreasonability City

LordReed:


Lemme ask you the reverse. On what ground should I believe in aliens or a god?

LoLz, because of your wife na, why else?

LordReed:


Lemme ask you the reverse. On what ground should I believe in aliens or a god?

on what ground should you not believe it either?
You should be somewhere in the middle

Workch:
on what ground should you not believe it either?
You should be somewhere in the middle

What is the middle?

LordReed:


What is the middle?

never base your conclusions on believes or disbelieve. Always base it on evidence by knowledge, when evidence is not available, remain skeptical and neutral.

Workch:
never based your conclusions on believes or disbelieve. Always base it on evidence by knowledge, when evidence is not available, remain skeptical and neutral.

In other words you're suggesting Agnosticm.
Well it's somehow reasonable than atheism!

Workch:
never base your conclusions on believes or disbelieve. Always base it on evidence by knowledge, when evidence is not available, remain skeptical and neutral.

And how is this different from what I have said?

Workch:
never base your conclusions on believes or disbelieve. Always base it on evidence by knowledge, when evidence is not available, remain skeptical and neutral.

Atheists don’t believe in gods, they don’t “disbelieve” gods.

LordReed:


And how is this different from what I have said?

What do you think is the difference between atheism and agnosticism?

Aemmyjah:


1. You said if God exists, he must reveal himself to you (as if it is everything that exists we can see). In same analysis, reveal who made your phone... By the way, what has a phonemaker got to do with making a phone in it's image... Maxindhouse, come and heal this guy

2. Has evolution passed the scientific approach? Yes or No... Science says life cannot emerge from inorganic matter, evolution says otherwise. Science says parents give birth to like offspring, evolution says otherwise... Evolution seems to break everything

3. Mo foo... The best way to know about an organization or person is by asking those who are opposers with such a person right? If you want to marry a girl, is it logical for her to meet your former friends knowing they hate you and openly say all kinds of negative things about you?

I award you the Vicar of Unreasonability City

1.
He fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?" He asked, "Who are you, Lord?" The reply came, "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting" (Acts 9:4-6).

The LORD would speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks with his friend. Then Moses would return to the camp, but his young aide Joshua son of Nun did not leave the tent (Exodus 33:11).

There beside him stood the LORD and said: "I am the LORD, the God of your father Abraham and the God of Isaac. I will give you and your descendants the land on which you are lying" (Genesis 28:13).

That night the LORD appeared to him [Isaac] and said, "I am the God of your father Abraham. Do not be afraid, for I am with you; I will bless you and will increase the number of your descendants for the sake of my servant Abraham" (Genesis 26:24).


Above verses are few of the many verses Yahweh revealed himself (and talked) to mankind.
Do phone makers reveal themselves to their phones or devices? Hell no. So how does this analogy of phone and maker fit in?
I know who made my phone. I don't understand how that fits into this discourse.
And yes, your buybull said Yahweh made humans in his image. Or was that part not in your Child Molester Buybull version?

2. I don't even understand what you mean by Has evolution passed the scientific approach Maybe you can rephrase.
Please where did science say life cannot emerge from inorganic matter? Evolution doesn't say anything about life origination. It only talks about how organisms change over time. Please read it up. Are you sure you're a biologist? This is basic(high school) biology we're into now.
Wtf are you smoking? Evolution is part and parcel of science. There's no branch of science that doesn't quote evolution. Genetics, embryology, archeology, paleontology, biology etc.
Can someone here please educate this 'biologist' on evolution please.
I have given you a screenshot on the definition of evolution. Mr 'Biologist',you can take a few seconds from your Kingdom Hall meetings and read up.
It is interesting a physician is teaching a 'biologist' what evolution actually is.
3. If i wanna know about an organization, I take opinions from both sides and decide the truth, armed with logical reasoning. From what I deduce, there's a lot of issues and wrongdoings going on in JW. There is actually a reduction in your funding and Kingdom hall visits

Workch:
What do you think is the difference between atheism and agnosticism?

Someone already pointed this out before IRC.

LordReed:


Someone already pointed this out before IRC.

Comedy no dey finish for ignorant people mouth.

Image123:


Comedy no dey finish for ignorant people mouth.

You are right, that’s why Church LITERALLY means Circus.
https://lisaannhardy.com/2016/06/01/circus-or-church/

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Comedy no dey finish for Church

Let’s Laugh 😂😂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiJGPRHkjgI

LordReed:


Someone already pointed this out before IRC.

your opinion is that I'm lying that I'm a pure agnostics?

Workch:
your opinion is that I'm lying that I'm a pure agnostics?

You asked for my opinion and I gave it. I am not calling you anything, you are free to use any label you choose as I am. I am only telling you the label I use for myself.

LordReed:


You asked for my opinion and I gave it. I am not calling you anything, you are free to use any label you choose as I am. I am only telling you the label I use for myself.

So no one can truly be an agnostic because your picture says so?

Workch:
So no one can truly be an agnostic because your picture says so?

Oga call yourself anything you want that's your business. You asked for my opinion and I have given it. Did I ask you to change the label you use for yourself?

LordReed:


Oga call yourself anything you want that's your business. You asked for my opinion and I have given it. Did I ask you to change the label you use for yourself?

Lol, LordReed. You just don't want to accept that we don't know if a god exist or not hence we should stop disbelieving it or believing it.

Workch:
Lol, LordReed. You just don't want to accept that we don't know if a god exist or not hence we should stop disbelieving it or believing it.

You don’t know what “god” means, start from there 😂😂

LordReed:


Oga call yourself anything you want that's your business. You asked for my opinion and I have given it. Did I ask you to change the label you use for yourself?

Tell him the truth, a sinner is a sinner no matter the name you call yourself.

Workch:
Lol, LordReed. You just don't want to accept that we don't know if a god exist or not hence we should stop disbelieving it or believing it.

He's a man deeply frustrated by people's prayers. Don't blame him much.

Workch:
Lol, LordReed. You just don't want to accept that we don't know if a god exist or not hence we should stop disbelieving it or believing it.

Thor and sango is a god not a man.
So why are you not listening to your advice?

Workch:
Lol, LordReed. You just don't want to accept that we don't know if a god exist or not hence we should stop disbelieving it or believing it.

You are reading something that clearly tells you what I think but you choose to misrepresent for whatever reason, tells me my conversation with you is over.

Lemme add for clarity: I told you I am am an agnostic atheist. I show you a clear description of what an agnostic atheist is but you still say "You just don't want to accept that we don't know if a god exist or not hence we should stop disbelieving it or believing it.". What clearer way would it be put to you that I do not claim to believe or know if a god exists.

Workch:
Lol, LordReed. You just don't want to accept that we don't know if a god exist or not hence we should stop disbelieving it or believing it.

Lemme wade into this discourse. Since you don't know whether a 'god' exists, how do you know the definition and attributes of a 'god'?

jaephoenix:

Lemme wade into this discourse. Since you don't know whether a 'god' exists, how do you know the definition and attributes of a 'god'?

Chai, if i was a theist i would have said, Almighty God bless you.

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He's a man deeply frustrated by people's prayers. Don't blame him much.

This discourse isn't for simpletons. If you don't have the mental capacity to engage, why don't you watch that beautiful paint on your fence dry instead of meddling irritably? Notice your brethren like MadMax, Vdestroy (aka Dtruthspeaker) and EnemyJah have melted away.

jaephoenix:

Lemme wade into this discourse. Since you don't know whether a 'god' exists, how do you know the definition and attributes of a 'god'?

I don't know the definition or attribute of God.
One only attribute I think a god should have is someone that is capable of creating us.

jaephoenix:

Lemme wade into this discourse. Since you don't know whether a 'god' exists, how do you know the definition and attributes of a 'god'?

As an addendum…
Why don't you use the word kjrls or ajrrfve instead of 'god'?
If the said 'god' appeared to you to prove itself/herself/himself/Bleep-self etc, how would you recognize it and process the fact that its a 'god'. Or would it say "Hey, Workch here I am, I'm god" before you now become a theist?

LordReed:


You are reading something that clearly tells you what I think but you choose to misrepresent for whatever reason, tells me my conversation with you is over.

Lemme add for clarity: I told you I am am an agnostic atheist. I show you a clear description of what an agnostic atheist is but you still say "You just don't want to accept that we don't know if a god exist or not hence we should stop disbelieving it or believing it.". What clearer way would it be put to you that I do not claim to believe or know if a god exists.

Does an agnostic atheist disbelieve the existence of a god?
Make it clear enough

jaephoenix:

As an addendum…
Why don't you use the word kjrls or ajrrfve instead of 'god'?
If the said 'god' appeared to you to prove itself/herself/himself/Bleep-self etc, how would you recognize it and process the fact that its a 'god'. Or would it say "Hey, Workch here I am, I'm god" before you now become a theist?

irrespective of what you use to arrive at a god, it's something that is capable of creating what we see today.