LordReed:


You didn't answer the question: how does your description of who an atheist is not apply to me?

Where have I said I disbelieve? You're just making unfounded assumptions, that is what is not scientific.

LordReed:


Yes that is an attribute you are giving the god BEFORE you have evidence, so it is indeed baseless.

Workch:
if you don't disbelieve the existence of all god then you do not qualify as an atheist.
Atheists disbelieve all gods without evidence against all gods.

Workch:
I'm not the one giving, deist gave it that attribute. I cannot disprove it, neither can you.

Workch:

Atheists disbelieve all gods without evidence against all gods.

LordReed:


Yes that is an attribute you are giving the god BEFORE you have evidence, so it is indeed baseless.

Workch:
If we found a new planet and we are not sure what this planet is made of yet and I make a claim that this planet can Harbour life. Of course it's a baseless claim and that's what theism does.
Epsitemologically, the individual that made the claim has the burden of proof to prove it but scientifically, the person who made the claim does not necessarily need to find evidence to validate the claim. If you think that the claim is not correct, in science, you will go out and find evidence against it else the argument is still very open.

LordReed:


It is is baseless if you are giving attributes to the god. If you are simply saying there could be a god then it would be different. You are giving the god attributes BEFORE you have any evidence.

Workch:
I'm not the one giving, deist gave it that attribute. I cannot disprove it, neither can you.
If you cannot disprove a claim with evidence then how is it baseless? if you do not have counter evidence, then don't you think that you are baselessly rejecting the claim?

Workch:
if you don't disbelieve the existence of all god then you do not qualify as an atheist.
Atheists disbelieve all gods without evidence against all gods.

Workch:
If we found a new planet and we are not sure what this planet is made of yet and I make a claim that this planet can Harbour life. Of course it's a baseless claim and that's what theism does.
Epsitemologically, the individual that made the claim has the burden of proof to prove it but scientifically, the person who made the claim does not necessarily need to find evidence to validate the claim. If you think that the claim is not correct, in science, you will go out and find evidence against it else the argument is still very open.

MayntheeMayn:

I want you to look at this. It is a Calvanist concept.
https://www.encyclopedia.com/philosophy-and-religion/philosophy/philosophy-terms-and-concepts/deists

LordReed:


I thought you are an agnostic deist.

Workch:
no, you see. You still dont get my argument.

I am a weak agnostic. I don't have any knowledge of existence if a god so I don't believe or disbelieve it. I think we do not have sufficient knowledge to know if a god exist or not hence deists, atheists and theists do not know what they are talking about.

Workch:

I am a weak agnostic. I don't have any knowledge of existence if a god so I don't believe or disbelieve it. I think we do not have sufficient knowledge to know if a god exist or not hence deists, atheists and theists do not know what they are talking about.

LordReed:


LoLz. I have never seen where a scientist says I am going to go find evidence against a baseless claim. Find me which scientist is doing this.

Workch:
no claim is baseless if it hasn't been disproven.

My undergraduate research work as a biochemist, I worked on finding evidence for or against traditional claims that cashew leaves have diuretic and laxative effect hence they is handy in the treatment of hypertension and bowel movement diseases.
Going by your definition, most traditional medicinal claims are baseless, they usually sound ridiculous. You will see one person selling gbogbonise that can cure all diseases in earth, is that not baseless but science still disprove them.

It's not baseless until proven baseless.

IconicR:
Are you an atheist and does your family know about it

Workch:
no claim is baseless if it hasn't been disproven.

My undergraduate research work as a biochemist, I worked on finding evidence for or against traditional claims that cashew leaves have diuretic and laxative effect hence they are handy in the treatment of hypertension and bowel movement diseases.
Going by your definition, most traditional medicinal claims are baseless, they usually sound ridiculous. You will see one person selling gbogbonise that can cure all diseases on earth, is that not baseless but science still disprove them.

It's not baseless until proven baseless.

A001:
This m.oron with an empty brain keeps mentioning me here unnecessarily. Wasting away your life on silly discussions online early in the morning when your mates are in their workplaces and getting involved in meaningful activities.

If you're so foolish that you don't know what the word 'god' means, then what's your dictionary there for?

Keep waking up and sleeping on Nairaland forum since you're jobless.

LordReed:


It is baseless if there was no evidence to make the claim in the first place.

The reason why traditional medicine needs to be investigated is because some of the claims do have a basis. We know that some plants have medicinal effect so it is worth it to see which do and what those effects are.

No scientist would be looking for pink unicorns on Mars because that would be a baseless claim in the first place.

Workch:
And who says pink unicorns can't exist on Mars?

Workch:


Why would you look for pink unicorns on Mars when you are yet to find life on Mars?

Workch:
So aliens and warmholes are baseless?

Workch:
So aliens and warmholes are baseless?

So the universe can not exist on its own is not a basis right? It doesn't bother you

Why would you look for pink unicorns on Mars when you are yet to find life on Mars?

It's a faulty equivalence. You have to first find life on Mars before checking for a pink unicorn. And who says pink unicorns can't exist on Mars?

1Sharon:


Now, why would you like to know?

LordReed:


Wrong. Atheists do not disbelieve, they don't believe. There is a difference.

LordReed:


What claim is being made about aliens and wormholes?

I don't understand the question.



That is exactly the point, why would you be calling a god noninterventionist before you have found the god?

Workch:

I'm just saying that you cannot disprove that claim because you don't have any evidence.. A claim is not baseless unless an evidence against it exist

Aemmyjah:
Atheists have not given any sound argument that God does not exist.
Some use suffering and badness as an excuse but a house that has become almost damaged and tenants are constantly making trouble does not mean the house was not built by someone... Earth's problem are usually caused by Man and usually as Man disregard the moral laws

Some use biology as an excuse by bringing up theories that have not even met scientific approach, theories that are not agreed on, contradictory and mysterious even to the intelligent, how much the uneducated... How did you convince someone that has little educational background that there's no God?

Funniest excuse atheists use is that Christians are adhering to a white man's religion
Do you know that atheism began in Africa?
About 200 years ago by a man called Otunba Charles Darwin in Badagry.
Atheism is an African religion right?

When you present these facts to the same gullible people, what do they say?
They say the Whitemen are abandoning religion and going for atheism... Imagine these from the same idiaats that accuse you or adhering to western religion.

...Yet, I'm the one following religion blindly
...I'm the one that is not critical negatively (pessimistic) minded
...I don't want to reason for myself

Atheists are the ones changing the world for better (How?)
Atheists are the most intelligent and making the most sophisticated investions (atleast, their dead brains have made them invent weapons that can destroy all life on Earth)
Whitemen are more atheists than religious (wrong facts)

Workch:
that they may exist

I am not the person calling it, I don't even believe that myself nor disbelieve it.
I'm just saying that you cannot disprove that claim because you don't have any evidence.. A claim is not baseless unless an evidence against it exist