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Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by HyeBits: 1:26pm On Dec 06, 2011
@kobojunkie, I will never loose hope in you. I feel I'm talking to a teenager here. One needs to know the state of Nigeria socio-economic outlook. The issue be say Lagos no fit build such big hospital wey dem dey build for obo oyinbo them. Owing to budget and space in Lagos. But the one wey dem common sence settle fro after years of research they do the work them want. Thank you.
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by Kobojunkie: 1:29pm On Dec 06, 2011
Hye-Bits:

@kobojunkie, ^^^I will never loose hope in you. I feel I'm talking to a teenager here. One needs to know the state of Nigeria socio-economic outlook. The issue be say Lagos no fit build such big hospital wey dem dey build for obo oyinbo them. Owing to budget and space in Lagos. But the one wey dem common sence settle fro after years of research they do the work them want. Thank you.

Your ignorance is showing!!! Nigeria's socio-economic outlook? ROFLMAO!!! Dude, here's another suggestion for you. You might want to actually research Nigeria's socio-economic outlook because it goes counter to what you are attempting here. You don't know what is going on with your Nigeria, do you? lol
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by Gbawe: 1:30pm On Dec 06, 2011
Hye-Bits:

@Kobojunkie,the reason Fashola should be given the credit for providing the alternative to the people. At least some modern facilities are seen here. We need start from zero then to some appreciable level. Don't be dazed that I read through the thread with a sharp understanding and know where your points and your cohorts stand. This inform my contribution. May be you don't seem to know where you stand again. Sorry, confussed?

My guy, don't bother indulging those who are confused and argue in a convoluted manner just to appear contrarian or intelligent. You are wasting your time . Let us not allow anyone to move the goal post and make this about Kalu, Akpabio et al not recieving praises for providing similar to what Fashola has done. kindly refer ignorant folks back to the core argument i.e the idea that this maternity and childcare health centre is adequate or not. This thread is about whether the medical facility Fashola has provided is adequate or not at meeting its core brief of delivering what it is built to provide i.e decent healthcare for specific groups of people seeking medical attention . Simple. Contributors should take their respective side and not introduce distractive sentiments that panders to their need to argue blindly.


Because it is now established beyond doubt, and I expect further corroboration as this thread gets more attention, that what Fashola provided (according to a contributor here) "is a very standard hospital setting that "Can compete with the hospital where I work in the UK", some now want to make it about other Governors not recieving praises. Simply laughable.  Is that not the biggest clue to how some nairalanders are really confused, self-hating and just arguing for the sake of it?

Eko Ile is a proud Lagosian. He is highlighting the work of his Governor. What stops others from doing same? Abeg, tell empty barrels, with nonsensical arguments, to either admit that what Fashola has provided is adequate, prove otherwise or get lost. There should be no room for folks , after they have lost the main argument, shifting the parameters of the debate. A frigging Chicago doctor and "medical professional", ostensibly exposed to some of the best standards in the world, had this to say about Lagos and Fashola :
I have to say I am quite impressed by the LASUTH and Lagos State government for pulling this off.
yet we are to entertain the rants of ignorant diasporan Nigerians who only know how to condemn and villify others?
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by EkoIle1: 1:32pm On Dec 06, 2011
This is getting funny lo,


First it was the professional medical man talking about widows and light messing with the doctor's eyes, but he shut his mouth after showing him a university hospital in Phili with the same windows and light.


Then they came up with ventilation even though they've never been to this new hospital.

Now it's about old and new hospital

You can make up these comedic and irrelevant absurdities I swear

Do these trolls just dug up their a//s//s just to look for something to thrown in the air and hope it sticks?
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by aljharem3: 1:33pm On Dec 06, 2011
phantom:

ideally, its only the A&E of any hospital that should be open, WHY? [/b]because the priority in such wards is  to save the patients life first.the question of transmission of infections is not the overriding concern, EVERY other ward ideally should not be open, [b]I doubt the claim that hospitals abroad have open wards like one of the gentlemen above mentioned.What he probably meant was that patients were kept within the same space but with one patient partitioned from the other,  

Where did you get that from

Open wards are normal in any hospital recongnised, or no abroad or in africa

Not all patients have disease problem or infection. Some might be due to to haemorrhage, cancer, heritage diseases etc

and if them need to be admitted, then an open ward is suitable for them.

and incase the doctor needs to do something private to them which requires them being private, then it is easy to just draw the curtain and do what ever.
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by HyeBits: 1:34pm On Dec 06, 2011
@Kolojunkie, so you don't seem to know that I mean you have defeciency in pattern recognition, the reason you are confusing here. You are the victim of pattern recognition defeciency her. Read through my post again, Americana. I cant laugh  sad sad sad sad . Still not loosing hope in you my brother.
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by Kobojunkie: 1:37pm On Dec 06, 2011
Hye-Bits:

@Kolojunkie, so you don't seem to know that I mean you have defeciency in pattern recognition, the reason you are confusing here. You are the victim of pattern recognition defeciency her. Read through my post again, Americana. I cant laugh  sad sad sad sad . Still not loosing hope in you my brother.

Stop . . .  my ribs can't take no more of this!!! Pattern recognition deficiency??
If calling me koLojunkie makes you think yourself intelligent, go right ahead dude but please stop with the silly use of terms please . . . . ROFL
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by HyeBits: 1:40pm On Dec 06, 2011
@kolojunkie, may be you dont know pattern recognition is studied in psychiatry. Go back to your wiki link. shocked shocked shocked shocked
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by Kobojunkie: 1:43pm On Dec 06, 2011
Pattern Recognition (Psychology) - easily linked to for those who find it hard to grasp the general meaning given, which happens to be no different really from it's application in Psychology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_recognition_(psychology)

[size=13pt]Pattern recognition involves identification of faces, objects, words, melodies, etc. The visual system does more than just interpret forms, contours and colors. Pattern recognition refers to the process of recognizing a set of stimuli arranged in a certain pattern that is characteristic of that set of stimuli. Pattern recognition does not occur instantly, although it does happen automatically and spontaneously. Pattern recognition is an innate ability of animals[/size].

You don't say   . . . .
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by goggs(m): 1:47pm On Dec 06, 2011
From this thread, its obvious that there are some people who are so disappointed with the present state that Nigeria is in now that nothing, no progress is good enough until its a "five star" project comparable to the best in the world. Such projects dont come up over night.

Nigeria must start from somewhere. What kills majority of people in Nigeria are diseases and ailments that can BE CURED BY THE MOST BASIC of medical equipment. Instead of pumping huge amounts to build a world class hospital in Ajegunle, I would rather see 10 - 20 of modest hospitals scattered in all parts of Lagos to cater for more people. As we reach saturation point then we can move from that

What some posters also fail to realise is that there hierarchies in hospital deployment. The order is local dispensaries - Clinics - cottage hospitals - general hospitals - specialist hospitals and then the omega - teaching hospitals. All these have minimum standardized equipment as described by the FMH Hospital handbook. You don't expect fashola to equip a cottage hospital with equipment for teaching hospitals. Its a system of grading that is done everywhere. Just google.

Its also amusing to note that some posters criticizing know very little about what they are posting about. E.g. asking why theatres should have windows  grin
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by phantom(m): 1:48pm On Dec 06, 2011
alj_harem:

Where did you get that from

Open wards are normal in any hospital recongnised, or no abroad or in africa

Not all patients have disease problem or infection. Some might be due to to haemorrhage, cancer, heritage diseases etc

and if them need to be admitted, then an open ward is suitable for them.

and incase the doctor needs to do something private to them which requires them being private, then it is easy to just draw the curtain and do what ever.


really?? grin grin grin, go to the national hospital in abuja.Thats probably the only hospital in nigeria that practices almost the ideal, YOU do not lump all patients together in an open ward, that is NOT STANDARD, Infact at the most 2 patients should be in a cubicle , and both of them must be deemed not to have ailments that can pose a threat to the other for instance lumping two patients with diabetic foot ulcers together would be a wise decision,
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by EkoIle1: 1:50pm On Dec 06, 2011
Hye-Bits:

@kobojunkie, I will never loose hope in you. I feel I'm talking to a teenager here. One needs to know the state of Nigeria socio-economic outlook. The issue be say Lagos no fit build such big hospital wey dem dey build for obo oyinbo them. Owing to budget and space in Lagos. But the one wey dem common sence settle fro after years of research they do the work them want. Thank you.



One thing you need to know about that character is the fact that, what ever that character  posts rubbish just for he heck of it, not necessarily to make sense talk less to support his absurd posts.


The same character jumped in the thread to compare LAGOS with Chicago when went on to talk about job creation as if they don't have paid workers at these maternal centers and the mothers are just delivering their own babies all by themselves. How do you even take such character seriously?


This is health care in this same Chicago South Side he's comparing with Lagos,


Third World?  Monstrous?  Ansell describes what he found during his years at County:  corruption, substandard management, political patronage, doctors learning on the job, rats, roaches and always, jammed waiting rooms (“The County Hospital lobby could have been mistaken for a Calcutta bus station, not a place of healing.”)  He describes one night in the ER when “the knife and gunshot wounds had priority.  They screamed in pain.  Blood and chaos.  The drunks and addicts on gurneys as well.”  It was Dante’s Inferno, American style.

CAT scans were unavailable.  Colonoscopies had huge waiting lists and lengthy appointments awaited women with suspicious lumps in their bosoms.  Beleaguered doctors and nurses were inundated while patients found themselves lacking basic items like soap, towels and sheets.

After a while, the new doctors publicly denounced the infamous practice of “dumping,” where private hospitals shipped uninsured patients, many of whom were seriously sick, to County.  They also began a bosom Cancer Screening Program and prevention programs aimed at relieving stress and preventing HIV.

As his grim odyssey develops, Ansell recalls a patient suffering from hallucinations caused by his giving up alcohol.  “Hey Doc,” he called out to Ansell, “last night I thought I saw two large rats.”  A skeptical Ansell later learned that his patient was not hallucinating at all but that there really were rats in his room. County is replete with many such stories, the most poignant about his long friendship and care for Harriet, a woman with sickle cell anemia, among other problems. When she finally died after two years of dialysis, Harriet’s family asked Ansell to deliver her eulogy in a Baptist church on the city’s South Side.

http://hollywoodprogressive.com/public-hospital/  


One thing is clear, this character is a liar and I've exposed his lies several times on NL
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by HyeBits: 1:50pm On Dec 06, 2011
@Kolojunkie,Kindly study pattern recognition in education as prelude to mathematics intelligence and reasoning. Cognitive and , I feel I overwhelm you, but you keep missing it all the way.
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by Kobojunkie: 1:50pm On Dec 06, 2011
I see we have some more of the same class of EXCUSES . . . . We are still just STARTING  . . . . . .  13 years later, we are still JUST STARTING. 50 years later, Nigeria is still JUST STARTING.   grin grin grin grin
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by Bawss1(m): 1:51pm On Dec 06, 2011
@goggs

You may not realize it but Bad Belle Operations Inc. has a very active presence on NL.   smiley
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by Kobojunkie: 1:52pm On Dec 06, 2011
Hye-Bits:

@Kolojunkie,Kindly study pattern recognition in education as prelude to mathematics intelligence and reasoning. Cognitive and ,  I feel I overwhelm you, but you keep missing it all the way.  

Unfortunately for you, Pattern recognition is one of my areas, so there is no way you can pull the wool over my eye on that here. I suggest again, next time, you at least do your homework before you come rambling about topics you are lost on, pretending you have it all covered. Wikipedia is a good place to start.
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by Bawss1(m): 1:53pm On Dec 06, 2011
Meanwhile none of the critics here have shown how the hospital in question is failing to achieve what it was set up for.
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by HyeBits: 1:56pm On Dec 06, 2011
@Kolojunkie, patter recognition is my area aswell. Ofcourse, as a mathematician, educationist, engineer, researcher. Some of you dumbasses of NLD need be exposed for all of this unintelligent inteligence that you acclaimed. Shame! So what do you do in PR. I dey hear.

And mind you, wiki is not robort and alien dont post there, Its our den, the researchers den.
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by Kobojunkie: 2:00pm On Dec 06, 2011
Hye-Bits:

@Kolojunkie[b], patter recognition is my area aswell. Ofcourse, as a mathematician, educationist, engineer, researcher.[/b] Some of you dumbasses of NLD need be exposed for all of this unintelligent inteligence that you acclaimed. Shame! So what do you do in PR. I dey hear.

And mind you, wiki is not robort and alien dont post there, Its our den, the researchers den.

WoW . . . . please do not tell me you are a product of the Nigerian education system then. You? Illogical you a mathematician? Educationist? Engineer? Researcher?? ROFLMAO!!!

@Musiwa, is that you
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by EkoIle1: 2:00pm On Dec 06, 2011
Bawss1:

Meanwhile none of the critics here have shown how the hospital in question is failing to achieve what it was set up for.



Because they don't care about their own criticism, talk less offer anything meaningful to justify what they are criticizing.

They just criticize just for the heck of it.


I've asked them the same question, but they refused to answer. They dodged the question and lashed on to another absurd rubbish.

It's nothing but trolling.
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by EkoIle1: 2:03pm On Dec 06, 2011
Hye-Bits:

@Kolojunkie, patter recognition is my area aswell. Ofcourse, as a mathematician, educationist, engineer, researcher. Some of you dumbasses of NLD need be exposed for all of this unintelligent inteligence that you acclaimed. Shame! So what do you do in PR. I dey hear.

And mind you, wiki is not robort and alien dont post there,  Its our den, the researchers den.



Please leave that character alone, no need to derail the thread into something else. You are getting nothing from that character but the same routine and clownish posts. You have a lot to learn about trolling.
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by HyeBits: 2:06pm On Dec 06, 2011
@kolojunkie, I'm product of Nigeria education and very well proud of my making, my heritage. Tell me the reason an engineer is not a mathematician. And reasearcher cant be engineer. And Researcher cant be educationist. And Educationist cant be engineer.
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by HyeBits: 2:08pm On Dec 06, 2011
@ Eko Ile thanks, I feel he needs education. May be this is his last opportunity. Think he really need help.
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by Kobojunkie: 2:09pm On Dec 06, 2011
Hye-Bits:

@kolojunkie, I'm a product of Nigeria education and very well proud of my making, my heritage. Tell me the reason a engineer is not a mathematician. And reasearcher cant be engineer. And Researcher cant be educationist. And Educationist cant be engineer.

Never said they cannot be, only that I am unable to wrap my mind around the possibility of you being one. I work with Mathematicians, Engineers, Researchers, Educationist daily. That you are one, i find very very very very very very very very very hard to believe!  grin grin grin grin grin grin

That a researcher failed to research the base meaning of the term PATTERN RECOGNITION alone leads me to conclude that you are here to fib and not much else, since you don't seem to have even a pinch of logic to offer, especially on this issue.
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by HyeBits: 2:12pm On Dec 06, 2011
^^^ So you this NLD is only populated by your likes. Sorry, there are load of intelligent people here as well.
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by Kobojunkie: 2:15pm On Dec 06, 2011
I definitely do not want none of the irrationals you have offered up on this to this point. And yes, you are right to claim you are in good company here on Nairaland since we have loads of people willing to offer irrational, sycophantic rebuttals to arguments presented them, on a daily basis too.
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by HyeBits: 2:18pm On Dec 06, 2011
@Kolojunkie, one of my project on PR is on modelling PR in education from pre-school towards learning of Algebra in secondary school using pattern, model and abstract fro its study. With a view to produce scientific brain in Nigeria students. A hope for science future for Nigeria.

No one claim he is somebody here, just you assumption,  Where your own stop, someone has just started. One needs to make some of you abroad know that home based Nigerians are not imbeciles.
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by Gbawe: 2:21pm On Dec 06, 2011
phantom:

When its lagos, the roof will come down, when its other governors they are labelled thieves,



My guy , don't let that automatically predispose you towards failing to give credit where due. I agree that the constant praises of Fashola can be annoying, because he is essentially doing the job he is paid to do and so much remains undone even now, but we all need to appreciate what obtained before Fashola came onboard and the effort he has put in that now see him lauded , perhaps a little too slavishly sometimes, home and abroad.

This is not really the thread to deal with whether Fashola gets praised too much in comparison with others. What is central here is the opinion of Nairalanders as per whether they think the Maternity and childcare centre Lagos delivered[b] is medically adequate or not.[/b] I think it is because, from pictures I can see, the health centre is medically functional and adequate.
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by phantom(m): 2:26pm On Dec 06, 2011
Bawss1:

Meanwhile none of the critics here have shown how the hospital in question is failing to achieve what it was set up for.
my man, let us stop this "half bread is better than full chin-chin" attitude we have as nigerians, NOBODY is saying that this hospital wont take deliveries/CS's but some other posters raised some vital issues, what of toilet facilities? just because some of us do not get carried away with pictures of "equipment" makes us 'no -good' critics abi??,    So because you ve been hungry for  a long time,i buy you buns(with your money by the way) when i can get you a good plate of jollof rice with salad,plantain ,chicken and juice, i should expect you to jubilate and hug me abi?
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by Kobojunkie: 2:30pm On Dec 06, 2011
phantom:
 [size=13pt]So because you ve been hungry for  a long time,i buy you buns(with your money by the way) when i can get you a good plate of jollof rice with salad,plantain ,chicken and juice, i should expect you to jubilate and hug me abi?[/size]
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by EkoIle1: 2:35pm On Dec 06, 2011
Gbawe:


My guy , don't let that automatically predispose you towards failing to give credit where due. I agree that the constant praises of Fashola can be annoying, because he is essentially doing the job he is paid to do and so much remains undone even now, but we all need to appreciate what obtained before Fashola came onboard and the effort he has put in that now see him lauded , perhaps a little too slavishly sometimes, home and abroad.

This is not really the thread to deal with whether Fashola gets praised too much in comparison with others. What is central here is the opinion of Nairalanders as per whether they think the Maternity and childcare centre Lagos delivered[b] is medically adequate or not.[/b] I think it is because, from pictures I can see, the health centre is medically functional and adequate.



They better get used to Fashola threads if that's what's killing them because Fashola delivers at least 1-2 projects every week and these projects are def' showing up on NL.

I know the thought that they are getting left behind is killing them, but is it Fashola's fault?

The fact is, we are developing our capacity in Lagos state and we not only know there is light at the end of the tunnel, we are actually seeing the light.
Re: Fashola Hands Over Fourth Maternal And Child Care Centre At Ajegunle. Pics: by kizito96(m): 2:36pm On Dec 06, 2011
This man is a Blessing to Lagos Stata

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