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Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by Nobody: 2:31pm On Jun 10, 2012
logicboy:


The bible that you use was compiled by catholics. Ignorant hypocrite.

That is what they told you 'ol chap.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by zmoni: 2:31pm On Jun 10, 2012
I am parent living in the state, it very hard to raise up children in this part of the world, I don't believe in beating but on some occasion, you just have to apply force to put them in check..In Africa it's a bit easy to raise up children because of our culture provided you pay close attention to them, but in the state, it 's very tough, we have a fusion of cultures and some not so sensible liberal policies. It very tough for parents over here, especially a society that sees single parenting as a trend.. very tough...Pastor Dollar live in ATL, that's a very big city in the South and the temptations in such cities make parenting a challenging occupation.I live in lake county in central Florida, I have decided to relocate to naija temporarily for four years the moment my children attain the ages of twelve. My reason is very simple and strategic, I want my children to have a solid cultural background and also to change their views about the realities of life, I wish myself luck and hope it worked..

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Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by stagger: 2:34pm On Jun 10, 2012
logicboy:


You foolishly assume 3 things

1) I lived with my parents

2) That my parents/guardian beat me. Or choked me, in Creflo's case.

3) That all Nigerian parents beat their children.

Obviously your parents neglected to beat sense into you. That is why you are here manifesting your goatie sense and behaviour and putting them to shame with your brain-deprived arguments. Nobody here is saying that a choke-hold is part of it, but definitely some strokes of the cane or shoe or koboko are time tested methods of driving sense into the senseless. That is why soldiers use it liberally for Nigerian drivers who drive nonsense or people who cannot form queues in filling stations during scarcity periods.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 2:35pm On Jun 10, 2012
frosbel:

That is what they told you 'ol chap.



That is a fact and you are ignorant.


The bible was compiled by catholics. Google is your friend.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by gpovo(m): 2:50pm On Jun 10, 2012
Dat pikin get luck wel wel, she 4 try am com c naija, na police go help e papa beat her,yeye pikin. Now if pastor pikin do any how, so him no fit use d rod on her? Cos my bible say" if u spear d rod na im b say d pikin go spoil"well, mak all dese yeye usa human right laws nor com enta naija 1day o,cos me go beat any pikin wen do any how cos bible self surport am. I beg mak BISHOP CREFLO pack com stay here jare, useless laws.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by oloriooko(m): 2:52pm On Jun 10, 2012
See how rubbish liberality can be
The girl must have been a problem to the parents but the stoopid laws over there has made a mess of their kids.
At 15 you want to go to party by 1am? Are you crazy?

Nonsense upon ingredient, ingredient upon hundred, she's lucky her papa no be 9ja, he for package the babe come here for proper training.
But man of God went over the limit to engage in physical brawl with her, sorry o.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by Nobody: 2:52pm On Jun 10, 2012
It's obvious that the girl has been driving him nuts for a while, he just overreacted this time. She needs more discipline.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by gpovo(m): 2:55pm On Jun 10, 2012
logicboy:


That is a fact and you are ignorant.


The bible was compiled by catholics. Google is your friend.
my friend u 4 go change d bible na. u no say some of us no go skool reach dere. help us change am, and na u go still dey among d 1st 2 shout if pastor pikin b harlot o.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by stagger: 2:55pm On Jun 10, 2012
I recall an episode when I was still working for a boss 10 years ago. He had very important visitors who came for a business meeting. My boss's 7 year old son happened to be in the premises at the time. He got hold of the key to the conference room, locked us all inside and misplaced the key.

Words cannot describe the embarrassment we felt in that place. As the door was finally broken open, the head of the delegation berated my boss publicly.

"My friend, you are a successful man, but you have failed as a father. You have obviously allowed your children to become wayward, and this is a shame. I would advise you, if you cannot train your own children, send them over to me for a month and I will straighten them out for you. But let me tell you, you have a big problem on your hands".

I cannot forget those words ever, said in public to the hearing of everybody by the head of the delegation to my boss, who was speechless.

It is better to curtail the excesses of your children in the privacy of your own home than to have yourself publicly disgraced.

It is very obvious that Creflo Dollar is trying to enforce things he should have done years back. For a daughter to challenge her father's authority and even call the police on him after discipline (extreme or not) is something that is inconceivable in a proper household.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by otokx(m): 2:56pm On Jun 10, 2012
Its unfortunate that some pastors are unable to instill discipline and order in their homes; look at the shame and dishonor that 15 year old has brought on his ministry. Where is the mother in all of this?
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by Haven12: 2:57pm On Jun 10, 2012
This creflo`s daughter is in a hurry to grow uP,He should go on his knees before Satan steals his child from him,beating will do nothing. absolutely nothing!
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by AnotherOkija: 2:58pm On Jun 10, 2012
otokx: Its unfortunate that some pastors are unable to instill discipline and order in their homes; look at the shame and dishonor that 15 year old has brought on his ministry. Where is the mother in all of this?

His ministry is fine jor!!

This wouldn't affect him worse than 1 % of his congregation who would most likely be teenagers..

If Benny Hinn who divorced his wife and fhucked Paula White is still in ministry, Jimmy Swaggart who fhucked a prostitute still made it then na this toy matter wan affect Pastor Dollar?! I laugh
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 2:59pm On Jun 10, 2012
stagger: I recall an episode when I was still working for a boss 10 years ago. He had very important visitors who came for a business meeting. My boss's 7 year old son happened to be in the premises at the time. He got hold of the key to the conference room, locked us all inside and misplaced the key.

Words cannot describe the embarrassment we felt in that place. As the door was finally broken open, the head of the delegation berated my boss publicly.

"My friend, you are a successful man, but you have failed as a father. You have obviously allowed your children to become wayward, and this is a shame. I would advise you, if you cannot train your own children, send them over to me for a month and I will straighten them out for you. But let me tell you, you have a big problem on your hands".

I cannot forget those words ever, said in public to the hearing of everybody by the head of the delegation to my boss, who was speechless.

It is better to curtail the excesses of your children in the privacy of your own home than to have yourself publicly disgraced.

It is very obvious that Creflo Dollar is trying to enforce things he should have done years back. For a daughter to challenge her father's authority and even call the police on him after discipline (extreme or not) is something that is inconceivable in a proper household.


Your boss is a fool and the delegate head is an arrogant azzhole. What right does he have to talk like that to the Boss? Family is a personal thing.

Children are sometimes mischevious. The child was 7 years old. What does he know?

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Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by otokx(m): 2:59pm On Jun 10, 2012
zmoni: I am parent living in the state, it very hard to raise up children in this part of the world, I don't believe in beating but on some occasion, you just have to apply force to put them in check..In Africa it's a bit easy to raise up children because of our culture provided you pay close attention to them, but in the state, it 's very tough, we have a fusion of cultures and some not so sensible liberal policies. It very tough for parents over here, especially a society that sees single parenting as a trend.. very tough...Pastor Dollar live in ATL, that's a very big city in the South and the temptations in such cities make parenting a challenging occupation.I live in lake county in central Florida, I have decided to relocate to naija temporarily for four years the moment my children attain the ages of twelve. My reason is very simple and strategic, I want my children to have a solid cultural background and also to change their views about the realities of life, I wish myself luck and hope it worked..

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Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by AnotherOkija: 3:02pm On Jun 10, 2012
logicboy:


Your boss is a fool and the delegate head is an arrogant azzhole.

Children are sometimes mischevious. The child was 7 years old. What does he know?

I cant help but agree with you on this .. The head of the delegation is a turd, and if the boss didn't come to the defense of his son, he is not worthy to be a father... A fhucking 7 year old?!! Nigga please!
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by Nobody: 3:04pm On Jun 10, 2012
logicboy:
Sorry, being a christianity for 22 years stunted my growth
No, being a mere Church goer must have affected your growth. smiley mind you: You aren't a Christian because you go to church, however it is because of your regenerated lifestyle...having received the grace from God to live a Christ-like life. My dear, you need to RETRACE your step... back to God!...Jesus loves you. smiley smiley

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Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 3:07pm On Jun 10, 2012
OlowoTee:
No, being a mere Church goer must have affected your growth. smiley mind you: You aren't a Christian because you go to church, however it is because of your regenerated lifestyle...having received the grace from God to live a Christ-like life. My dear, you need to RETRACE your step to back God!...Jesus loves you. smiley smiley

Why do you judge when you know nothing about my personal life?

I never said that I was a church goer- I was a christian, believed in God and read the bible and lived the life.


The sad truth is that it is all false, when you pray, no one talks back. Thee is not one single physical proof of God
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by stagger: 3:07pm On Jun 10, 2012
logicboy:


Your boss is a fool and the delegate head is an arrogant azzhole. What right does he have to talk like that to the Boss? Family is a personal thing.

Children are sometimes mischevious. The child was 7 years old. What does he know?

If my son tries that kind of stunt and ruins a business deal on account of such a prank, causing me such public embarrassment, I tell you, I will send him to work in a restaurant or a car wash after school for three months. You no know me o!

I have seen the havoc that wayward kids cause parents. One I know burnt their entire house playing with matches, another killed a street hawker with his father's car, yet another I know (13 years old) took his father's car, went drinking with his friends and gave the car key to his now very drunk friend, and they ended up sending a man and his son-in-law to the orthopaedic hospital for a year.

You will be surprised at what untrained and unruly 7 year olds will turn to if you assume the "what does he know" attitude. The day you will see condom in the school uniform of your 7 year old son na im you go know say ponmo na leather.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by AnotherOkija: 3:18pm On Jun 10, 2012
stagger:

If my son tries that kind of stunt and ruins a business deal on account of such a prank, causing me such public embarrassment, I tell you, I will send him to work in a restaurant or a car wash after school for three months. You no know me o!

I have seen the havoc that wayward kids cause parents. One I know burnt their entire house playing with matches, another killed a street hawker with his father's car, yet another I know (13 years old) took his father's car, went drinking with his friends and gave the car key to his now very drunk friend, and they ended up sending a man and his son-in-law to the orthopaedic hospital for a year.

You will be surprised at what untrained and unruly 7 year olds will turn to if you assume the "what does he know" attitude. The day you will see condom in the school uniform of your 7 year old son na im you go know say ponmo na leather.


The boss of the Legal department walked into a meeting on Monday morning 7am with a visible brown stain on his shirt.. Apparently, her kids had poured hot chocolate on her while passing food around in the car on their way to school..

When she walked in.. She simply apologized for her look, asked if it bother anyone so she could reschedule and go get changed, or they could finish and she can run go fix herself up.. Everyone just smiled and said carry on..

A 7 year old is a child and the business associate failed to recognize that.. If a 12 year old had done it, then its different.. And what makes him even more foolish is thinking that he is a better father than your boss...

Your boss is a slave .. Held captive by money.. No bastard on earth or in Heaven can disrespect me in front of my kids and vice versa.. As a father he failed to protect his kid.. He is indeed not fit to be a father..

At what age does a child stop being a child?!
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by extension: 3:25pm On Jun 10, 2012
@zmoni
Fatanstic idea,but 4 years in Nigeria will not help you at all.From my calculation, you said will leave usa to naija when your child turns 12...and stay for 4 years...thats 16.
16 yrs is still very dangerous in usa.Infact at 16 is when they are ripe to join gang or doing drugs.Pls make plans for at least first degree in Nigeria before going back to florida.You may even get better job or business while in Nigeria.Wish you the best.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by unclenna(m): 3:27pm On Jun 10, 2012
Lenny5000:

What is wrong with you people? How is choking your child disciplining her? Would you choke your own child? When ever it has to do with somebody we like we tend to defend them as if they are not humans that are not above mistakes... They didn't say he beat her or grounded her they said he tries to choke her... A mere child of 15... A girl for that matter. Now tell me what crime a 15yrs old child would commit in your sight that is worthy of chocking?
Pls don't use Nigeria 15years to compare an American who is 15 years..... @ 15 they look like 25 year old.....How will a Nigerian 15 yr old girl dare talk about the type of party that will make the dad try to choke her......
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by Nobody: 3:28pm On Jun 10, 2012
logicboy:

Why do you judge when you know nothing about my personal life?

I never said that I was a church goer- I was a christian, believed in God and read the bible and lived the life.


The sad truth is that it is all false, when you pray, no one talks back. Thee is not one single physical proof of God

Hey! I did not mean to judge you. I'm sorry if i sounded so...

I was stating the obvious, really. There are still people who claim to be Christians but do not have personal relationship with God. Christianity doesn't work by mere profession...it is a lifestyle. It must be cultured...taking one day at a time, growing in GRACE and in the knowledge of Christ. smiley

yes, when we talk to Him, oftentimes, really He talks BACK. Sometimes laudible, othertimes through a still small voice. God could communicate with us via a third party -friends, pastors, parents etc The problem is our FAITH. Don't be hasty to conclude that there is no God in Heaven #you have just judged Him...lol

a Christian must learn to develop his/her faith in God. For without faith it is impossible to please HIM.
They that come to Him must BELIEVE that HE IS, and that HE is a REWARDER of those who diligently seek Him (the BIBLE).
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by poweredcom(m): 3:30pm On Jun 10, 2012
logicboy: Children in the West are better than your corrupt Nigeria. Better educated, better healthcare and better opprotunites when they grow up.


How many of your Nigerian children grow up to be Neurosurgeons, roacket scientists or CEO's of multinational companies?



You must be stupid for this statement why do you generalize peoplenow tell me how does a nigerian kid perform in school here and both in europe and usa perfect. Its just that we live in a country leaded by visionless people

As for creflo and his daughter I support him to discipline her you see we humans are not perfect and I am sure creflo is not a bad man to strangle his blood maybe the girls is turning into something else or the kind of party she wants to attend her father don't like it

*Atlanta georgia is a place full of strip clubs and wild party I have seen a porn star who says her father is a preacher infact not one but many

Now ask yourself if you see your girl behaving wayward just because she don dey get breast won't you do tje right thing unless she go just get belle hahaa
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by Nobody: 3:32pm On Jun 10, 2012
A true africa, i don't want to join issue with some ppl here the man had work hard to build a name and small girl want to destroy that because was parting. My dad wil beat you any day you hear party you wil run for your life i support him 100per to hell with pple frm broken homes. i grow to see my grandmother disciple her married daughters if they go wrong all eight daughter stay married til she pass on.let her wait finish school get married or get her place stop bringin shame to her father.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 3:41pm On Jun 10, 2012
poweredcom:

You must be stupid for this statement why do you generalize peoplenow tell me how does a nigerian kid perform in school here and both in europe and usa perfect. Its just that we live in a country leaded by visionless people

As for creflo and his daughter I support him to discipline her you see we humans are not perfect and I am sure creflo is not a bad man to strangle his blood maybe the girls is turning into something else or the kind of party she wants to attend her father don't like it

*Atlanta georgia is a place full of strip clubs and wild party I have seen a porn star who says her father is a preacher infact not one but many

Now ask yourself if you see your girl behaving wayward just because she don dey get breast won't you do tje right thing unless she go just get belle hahaa


Whatever, Creflo got arrested. Nice. Obey the laws and give unto Ceasar.

There were other ways of restricting his daughter. He chose the wrong way
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by yonybanta(m): 3:52pm On Jun 10, 2012
frosbel: This is why children in the west are rotten to the core, tell me , where are Pastor's parental rights to discipline his wayward daughter ??

. I agree with u, their law gives them so much freedom such d@ parenting is of no effect & if the child become wayward the pple wil say she is daughta of pastor.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by poweredcom(m): 3:52pm On Jun 10, 2012
logicboy:


Whatever, Creflo got arrested. Nice. Obey the laws and give unto Ceasar.

There were other ways of restricting his daughter. He chose the wrong way
Tell us other way mr councellor this logicboy you are onpoint on ur arguiement on nairaland always I am ur fan but today you fall my hand you praise westerners too much too

Ok so the pastor should start begging her blood around 1 am pls pls and what if the. Case she talks anyhow to him and that grew annoyed. You see she should have not called the cop if she knew whose personality her dad is stupid girl if na naija dem go leave am make she waka for 1 am na body go tell am . She don turn pros be dat na because if she see tins she never taste before she go wan start to go clubbin and join bad gurls in atl .
Remember atlanta is a big city full of bad clubs.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 3:58pm On Jun 10, 2012
poweredcom:
Tell us other way mr councellor this logicboy you are onpoint on ur arguiement on nairaland always I am ur fan but today you fall my hand you praise westerners too much too

Ok so the pastor should start begging her blood around 1 am pls pls and what if the. Case she talks anyhow to him and that grew annoyed. You see she should have not called the cop if she knew whose personality her dad is stupid girl if na naija dem go leave am make she waka for 1 am na body go tell am . She don turn pros be dat na because if she see tins she never taste before she go wan start to go clubbin and join bad gurls in atl .
Remember atlanta is a big city full of bad clubs.

Options;

1) Lockdown the house.

2) Convince her not to go with logical arguments

3) Lie to her that you want to see her fake ID for the club entrance and burn it

4) Bribe her with new clothes not to go clubbing

5) Shout at her for disrespecting you



Impressed?
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 4:00pm On Jun 10, 2012
yony banta: . I agree with u, their law gives them so much freedom such d@ parenting is of no effect & if the child become wayward the pple wil say she is daughta of pastor.


Sharrap, all the respectable leaders in America, were they not children before? Must you beat your children before they are good? Are there not toher forms of punishment?

Even if you want to beat your daughter, there are milder ways of doing that ompared to Creflo's style
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by tlife(m): 4:03pm On Jun 10, 2012
At 15years, me think its rather late to be flogging! start early enough before your kids character become moulded!
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 4:07pm On Jun 10, 2012
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by poweredcom(m): 4:08pm On Jun 10, 2012
logicboy:

Options;

1) Lockdown the house.

2) Convince her not to go with logical arguments

3) Lie to her that you want to see her fake ID for the club entrance and burn it

4) Bribe her with new clothes not to go clubbing

5) Shout at her for disrespecting you


Impressed?

That's good but I only take lockdown the house that's the best the other don't count what's if the girl don't want to listen ol boy you will be tempted to slap her gbosa!! She go see seven color stars haha by the way where was the mom taffi dollars in this she is suppose to act first not the man shame to american culture

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