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Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by thehomer: 11:18am On Jun 09, 2012
frosbel: Sometimes I wonder how I would have coped if I had a daughter.

I only have sons, and they dare not cross the boundary.

However I never go so far to cause them harm of injury, agreed that this is a step too far.

Often, all I need do is 'bark' with my African male voice and they are in order. grin

That is what you think. Maybe you actually brought them up properly. In that case, congratulate yourself.
One thing you need to realize is that beating them up especially by boxing them wouldn't really help you. Contrary to what many people think, boxing teenagers as punishment isn't such a good idea. The fact that physical pain may have worked when they were 5 doesn't mean it will work when they're 15.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by OilSubsidy: 11:21am On Jun 09, 2012
Another MOG with wayward kids. They are quick to rain down holy spirits on others but cannot get the same holy spirits to take control in their own house.

Why didn't he simply pray to correct his children bad behavior or his god has not been listening to his prayers. It seems it's only prosperity prayers that their god listen to!

He better start sowing seeds for his kids to turn out good kids if not he is a big failure as a father!!
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by Nobody: 11:42am On Jun 09, 2012
thehomer:

That is what you think. Maybe you actually brought them up properly. In that case, congratulate yourself.
One thing you need to realize is that beating them up especially by boxing them wouldn't really help you. Contrary to what many people think, boxing teenagers as punishment isn't such a good idea. The fact that physical pain may have worked when they were 5 doesn't mean it will work when they're 15.

Indeed Physical pain is the not the answer , I never said it was.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by Nobody: 12:04pm On Jun 09, 2012
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Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by dayokanu(m): 5:48pm On Jun 09, 2012
I fully support Creflo Dollar in this

a15yr old girl going for a party at 1am?

She would be on the next flight to Nigeria. And Not Lagos, Abuja or Ibadan but rural Nigeria in a boarding school to learn common sense


Shioor
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 5:56pm On Jun 09, 2012
dayokanu: I fully support Creflo Dollar in this

a15yr old girl going for a party at 1am?

She would be on the next flight to Nigeria. And Not Lagos, Abuja or Ibadan but rural Nigeria in a boarding school to learn common sense


Shioor


Not surprised if you're also an Oyedepo supporter
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by thehomer: 7:11pm On Jun 09, 2012
frosbel:

Indeed Physical pain is the not the answer , I never said it was.


You were wondering about parental rights to discipline one's offspring in your second post. If he had grounded her, withdrawn some of her funds or even given away her clothes and what not, this issue wouldn't be in the news. Instead, your wonder was on parental rights with respect to Pastor Dollar grin punching up his daughter.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by TheShopKeeper(m): 9:43pm On Jun 09, 2012
Wisdom and great self-control is needed when dealing with teenagers in the West, especially young girls.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by carlos86: 9:44am On Jun 10, 2012
Another anti Christian thread.It pops up every minute on nairaland these days
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by mekaboy(m): 9:59am On Jun 10, 2012
CHAI THAT DAUGHTER OF HIS IS VERY LUCKY THAT SHE IS IN THE COUNTRY OF THE ANTI CHRIST WHERE GAY PRACTICE HAS BEEN LEGALIZED. IN NIGERIA I WONDER HOW A GIRL OF 15 WILL THINK OG GOING FOR A PARTY AND ARGUE WITH HER FATHER ABOUT IT. THEY WOULD HAVE PUT GROUNDED PEPPER IN HER ANUS. CRAZY GIRL sad sad sad,


IF I WAS THE PASTOR AND I KNEW THAT MY BAIL WILL BE 5000, I WILL TAKE MY TIME AND DEAL WITH HER VERY WELL, THEN SHE CAN CALL 911 WHEN SHE RECOVERS. THEN I WILL BE GRANTED BAIL.

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Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by stagger: 10:03am On Jun 10, 2012
Lenny5000:

What is wrong with you people? How is choking your child disciplining her? Would you choke your own child? When ever it has to do with somebody we like we tend to defend them as if they are not humans that are not above mistakes... They didn't say he beat her or grounded her they said he tries to choke her... A mere child of 15... A girl for that matter. Now tell me what crime a 15yrs old child would commit in your sight that is worthy of chocking?

Were you there? Police everywhere in the world always have a way of spicing up stories to make themselves look good.

This is a simple act of corporal punishment from a dad to a daughter who refused his instruction not to attend a night party after a string of consistently poor grades in school.

If the girl feels she is now all grown to do what she wants, then she should leave the comfort of his house and hit the streets, pay her own bills, send herself to college and face life.

That is why America is a den of drug users, social misfits and crazed children who shoot their own school mates.

My children have been trained to obey parental instruction, just the way I was trained to obey parental instructions. Instructions are not meant to be liked. They are for guidance, just the way we have rules and regulations and laws.

Creflo Dollar has a right to correct his child with corporal punishment (I don't know about the choking aspect though; depends on what a "chokehold" is defined as). And this has nothing to do with his being a church minister. Order in a home is the father's duty. Plain and simple.

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Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by stagger: 10:05am On Jun 10, 2012
logicboy:


Not surprised if you're also an Oyedepo supporter

Another fool talking. So if your 15-year old daughter who has been doing poorly in school decides to go to a party at that unholy hour of the night, you will just let it pass as if everything is all right?

I am not sure you are a father, because no sane father will allow such riotous behaviour in his household.

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Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by Degis(m): 10:09am On Jun 10, 2012
stagger:

Were you there? Police everywhere in the world always have a way of spicing up stories to make themselves look good.

This is a simple act of corporal punishment from a dad to a daughter who refused his instruction not to attend a night party after a string of consistently poor grades in school.

If the girl feels she is now all grown to do what she wants, then she should leave the comfort of his house and hit the streets, pay her own bills, send herself to college and face life.

That is why America is a den of drug users, social misfits and crazed children who shoot their own school mates.

My children have been trained to obey parental instruction, just the way I was trained to obey parental instructions. Instructions are not meant to be liked. They are for guidance, just the way we have rules and regulations and laws.

Creflo Dollar has a right to correct his child with corporal punishment (I don't know about the choking aspect though; depends on what a "chokehold" is defined as). And this has nothing to do with his being a church minister. Order in a home is the father's duty. Plain and simple.

Very sensible post!. Please keep this up. I am enthralled by your contribution.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by mekaboy(m): 10:09am On Jun 10, 2012
stagger:

Another fool talking. So if your 15-year old daughter who has been doing poorly in school decides to go to a party at that unholy hour of the night, you will just let it pass as if everything is all right?

I am not sure you are a father, because no sane father will allow such riotous behaviour in his household.

EVEN IF SHE IS DOING WELL IN SCHOOL SHE DARE NOT THINK OF IT.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by Akpaamu: 10:13am On Jun 10, 2012
You do not cast your pearls to swines; so as a christian, it doesnt make sense discussing my fathers General(Creflo) with unbelievers, they will never understand, you unbes should go to ur clubs, drink and smoke hemp then come back and write bullshit. Creflo you re a General in Gods Army, Elshadai will be with you in all your ways. Amen!

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Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by olasco99(m): 10:15am On Jun 10, 2012
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hat are police waitin 4, instead of aresstin d pastor paul Atobatele shld b aressted because he is a king in assult
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by finallytalking: 10:17am On Jun 10, 2012
logicboy:


Why are you employing Grammar Nazi tactics? Are you really focusing on a simple typographical error?



Why not focus on the point of my argument?
Hey bro, that is not a typo, you added an extra alphabet to the word 'rocket', check your keyboard, letters 'a' 'o' and 'c' are far apart. Like someone asked, i hope you are not a product of the western educational system you speak so highly of?
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by shfizle(m): 10:18am On Jun 10, 2012
I don't blame him though, Lawrence Fishburne's daughter got all them black daddies scared... You sure wouldn't want your little baby girl riding a pole and putting it on tape, would ya? Might affect church revenue. Cash Flo Dollar had to do something
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by Nobody: 10:23am On Jun 10, 2012
frosbel: Some random comments from American Parents :


elimil2402
No 15 year old needs to be trying to attend a party period, let alone at 1am! I'm glad he put his foot down and did not allow her to go. Sounds like it was a typical child/parent fight and does not seem like abuse at all, will keep him and his family in prayer.
elimil2402


weddings7647
If my 15 year old daughter didn't behave they would have "superficial injuries" too. I don't believe in beating a child, but I will not spare the rod. If my kid disgarees they can hit the road. In my house my children will follow my rules or go somewhere else.

Plex755
A party, 1 o'clock in the moring, 15 year old female and a Father who said and meant NO! I'm not a " Dollar" follower nor fan. I am a parent who believes you raise your own children or allow them to get caught up in the system and end up in the grave. It's call Corporal punishment or child abuse these days, but my parents called it saving you from your self cause you're getting your butt whipped.

KzTer
I agree with Plex755...I'm not a fan of his, but as a parent, I understand the emotions that come along with parenting teenagers and when I say "NO, you are NOT going", that's the end of it. There's no more conversation and at 1 am, that thought shouldn't never even crossed your mind. I don't condone "getting physical" with your kid, but I understand that they can drive you too it, especially when they are 15 years old and obviously knows more than anyone else on the planet...esp their parents (dripping with sarcasm).
_
Another "random comment" by an "American parent":

Maybe if this supposed man of God had spent more time being a good father and becoming a good man, he wouldn't have gotten into a physical altercation with a 15 year old girl. I guess thecall of God is too important for silly stuff like family.
JoeBabb895
Jun-8

And another one

If these allegations are true, I hope the Reverend gets the help he needs to discipline his daughter for sure, but in a more effective way. Abuse does not foster discipline it only undermines respect builds resentment and such abusive patterns get passed down from generation to generation.
PeterMichaelBlooms
Jun-8

Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by greaterlove(m): 10:39am On Jun 10, 2012
Creflo lost it no doubt sha. BUt he was right to be mad at his daughter. She was definitely goin to be a danger to herself. if she is old enough to do as she pleases then she can leave her parents house. For her to call 911, i believe she was angry and there are underlying issues involved than she believing her father really wants to hurt her. In other words, daughter and father need to face the root cause of this. And importantly, people should give them space to sort themselves out

American kids, despite all the good stuff at their disposal, face tremendous pressure from a decadent system that thrives on freedom with too little control. A society must have a sense of morality defined by its culture and roots. America has no cultural roots - its a nation of immigrants; everyone doing their thing.[/quote].

I agree with you but all around the world including naija morality is collapsing, every parent will be worried if his or her daughter of 15 wants to go to a party at 1 a.m. I am not justifying his actions but it just shows he is human, and I guess this didn't start now there are issues that creflor and his daughter needs to resolve between themselves.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by Alxmyr(m): 10:41am On Jun 10, 2012
logicboy:

"Lord knows" is just an expression.


If you are from Nigeria, you have no right or moral ground to call the American society "decadent". How many 15 year old girls get buggered by old men in Nigeria without ever reaching the police? How many young girls get "Oyedepo-slapped"? What about the corruption? What about child labour in Nigeria?


I live in the West (UK). There are families that dont beat their children and yet the children turn out good. Many upperclass children are rigidly taught manners both at private schools and at home. I am not saying the UK is perfect (as there are many juvenile delinquents), what I am saying is that, it is the family that fully affects the child.

At 16, I was moving with friends that smoked weed. I never one day smoked because of my upbringing!



You are lucky, you would have ended up in rehab. Many of the people who hanged out with weed smokers in my neighbourhood are now touts, agberos and nuisance to the society.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by Idealkocep: 10:43am On Jun 10, 2012
As a man of God, He should have resorted to praying to God for her duaghter to be liberated from her wayward ways instead of physical asault. Thats what you get when the law gives children overbloated right as obtained in the western world. How can 15-year old girl think of going to party by 1:00am?,is this another dejavu.............?
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by Joshcoli(m): 10:43am On Jun 10, 2012
If I was Dr Dollar I would let the social service take her and put her in a foster home, because can you imagine not being able to even discipline your own child and in your own house, that is hard I will pray for dr dollar and his family but that rude brat needs to find some were to live
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by mbulela: 10:51am On Jun 10, 2012
Creflo's parental ability is suspect.
A 15 yr old daughter? by 1am?
wonders shall never cease.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by Nobody: 10:53am On Jun 10, 2012
logicboy: LMAO.


Frosbel, why are you complaining. Doesnt the bible teach you christians to obey the law?

This is good news. grin grin grin grin grin

I know say you go dey among the first people to come here...You? Logic azz grin grin
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by Alxmyr(m): 10:53am On Jun 10, 2012
Idealkocep: As a man of God, He should have resorted to praying to God for her duaghter to be liberated from her wayward ways instead of physical asault. Thats what you get when the law gives children overbloated right as obtained in the western world. How can 15-year old girl think of going to party by 1:00am?,is this another dejavu.............?

As a man of God, he should have resorted to what the bible say; spare the rod, and spoil the child.
And that is what he did.
How can a 15 year old go to party at 1:00 a.m. under your roof and you call yourself a father?
What sort of father is that?
Any father that condone that is a disaster.
She is lucky she is in the US.
If she is my daughter, she will live to tell the tales to her children after I might have dealt with her.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by OilSubsidy: 10:54am On Jun 10, 2012
If na church member e happen to now, 'god of man' will say 'Prayer is the key'. Why then result to 'choking is the key' grin
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by stagger: 10:57am On Jun 10, 2012
logicboy:

"Lord knows" is just an expression.


If you are from Nigeria, you have no right or moral ground to call the American society "decadent". How many 15 year old girls get buggered by old men in Nigeria without ever reaching the police? How many young girls get "Oyedepo-slapped"? What about the corruption? What about child labour in Nigeria?


I live in the West (UK). There are families that dont beat their children and yet the children turn out good. Many upperclass children are rigidly taught manners both at private schools and at home. I am not saying the UK is perfect (as there are many juvenile delinquents), what I am saying is that, it is the family that fully affects the child.

At 16, I was moving with friends that smoked weed. I never one day smoked because of my upbringing!


I had a cousin who went to the US at 16, came back to Nigeria after 7 years a crack cocaine addict. Did not surprise us when he committed suicide after several failed drug rehab sessions.

After seeing the ruins of his life first-hand, I will be a fool to provide an enabling environment for such to creep into my house. Going to night parties is an absolute taboo in my house. Even at my age, I NEVER keep late nights when I go to visit my aged parents out of the respect I have for them.

15 year old girl and you want to party late? Not in my house.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by MrAnony1(m): 10:57am On Jun 10, 2012
OilSubsidy: If na church member e happen to now, 'god of man' will say 'Prayer is the key'. Why then result to 'choking is the key' grin
Let's not be too quick to judge Creflo. Remember he is just a man and can get angry like everyone else. Who knows what she said to him to provoke him to that extent?
A 15 year old arguing that she should go to a party by 1.00am??! I know Nigerian parents that will beat her with a stick until she bleeds or put pepper in her eyes or even deprive the kid of food for a day or two. She wouldn't even think of it in a Nigerian home even as an 18 year old. Whatever he did, - as extreme as "choking" might sound - I believe he did out of love and not with the intention of doing her any real harm.
I also believe that the accounts were exaggerated a bit to make good headlines. If it was really as terrible as it is portrayed in the media, that kid would be in the custody of child services and not remain in that house if Creflo was indeed a real threat to her safety. Also he would not have got off so easily with a mere - slap on the wrist - $5,000 fine (to Creflo, five grand is peanuts).
The fact that she was not afraid to ask her father to go to a 1.00am party and even had the guts to argue with him about it to the point of raising voices tells me that Creflo has probably never disciplined her properly before and has been quite lenient.

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Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by stagger: 11:00am On Jun 10, 2012
Alxmyr: [/b]

You are lucky, you would have ended up in rehab. Many of the people who hanged out with weed smokers in my neighbourhood are now touts, agberos and nuisance to the society.

Well said. Most of the panickers and weed smokers in my area and secondary school turned out to be the militants terrorising and kidnapping people today. Na so e dey take start. From attending night parties, they learn to start doing drugs. Then the girls start prostituting and aristo runs when they enter university, while the guys become cultists and armed robbers. And the beat goes on.

Very happy that I am not an American and do not live there.
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by aneldaking(m): 11:06am On Jun 10, 2012
logicboy: LMAO.


Frosbel, why are you complaining. Doesnt the bible teach you christians to obey the law?

This is good news. grin grin grin grin grin



displaced fooooooool
Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by aneldaking(m): 11:10am On Jun 10, 2012
logicboy:

This has everything to do with the church. He is a hypocrite and a child abuser but he runs a multi-million dollar chruch.

We should kick his balls for destroying the lives of many black folk



displacd fooooool tell dat to ur quranic mallams caphirin banza

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