CityNG:

1) ... I left the badge alone to further confuse Corvettes on why a lowly pick up truck is continuously in front of them despite their best intentions

Siena:
Dude, simply admit you messed up, buying a car without knowing what engine it has. Buying a car BLIND, so to speak.
Paid for, received as a gift, knowing what engine your car has is as basic as knowing what colour it is. How on earth would you buy parts for your car, if you don't know what you car actually is??

CityNG:

Where I live has no bearing on you not knowing the propulsion system in your car.

You're still on here arguing and don't even know the gravity of your automotive cluelessness.

Ps: you also need some English comprehension skills.

Homguy: obviously, both of you are based outside Nigeria. A lot of nigerians buy cars without knowing as little as its engine displacement. As long as they have been told that car does not consume fuel. That probably the case here. In Nigeria there are so many issues in the daily grind that acquiring such specialized knowledge comes tertiary. I personally wouldn't buy a car without knowing every nit bit about that ride. King might not really be that savvy,but it might not be his fault. Circumstances are very varied. However, I wouldn't even drive a car without having a rough idea of the plant moving me. Different strokes for diverse folks.

Siena:

Dude, simply admit you messed up, buying a car without knowing what engine it has. Buying a car BLIND, so to speak.

Paid for, received as a gift, knowing what engine your car has is as basic as knowing what colour it is. How on earth would you buy parts for your car, if you don't know what you car actually is??

CityNG:

Where I live has no bearing on you not knowing the propulsion system in your car.

You're still on here arguing and don't even know the gravity of your automotive cluelessness.

Ps: you also need some English comprehension skills.

king406: . Ok man I admit, but at least I know what I'm driving now huh?

king406: hey man I donno why u are attacking me here I thought we are all friends here sorry if I've offended u in anyway. And not everybody can afford to buy data all the time just to browse about cars, some of us are students, some of us are workers that have no time to browse we just need cars with fuel economy that will serve us daily without consuming a lot of fuel or break down all the time, so lay off pls.

gmyguy: I don't think car enthusiasts have to be foreign based, it's just a matter of your personal interest. I haven't been abroad, but from what i see on youtube, even the average US citizen is probably more naive than your average nigerian!

Besides, most of our tokunbo cars here have lots of local mechanic interference on the engine and after several resales...who knows,. Before i sold my 2.0 97 Jetta with a fuel Injector system...the Injector had an electronic fault nobody could figure out. Eventually, it was converted to electric carburettor, and eventually, the 2.0 upper engine block replaced with a 1.8 engine block and lots of wires snipped. Long story short, i sold off a 2.0 jetta with a 1.8 half engine. Only a car enthusiast will take time to even know whats up with that.

Oh, and the other day, a friend's 1.6 TDi 08 jetta had kick starter issues, and the autoshop people were too expensive and not readily available, so he called a local roadside guy, who brought some kick starter from God knows where. The car starts fine now, but sounds like a Tractor sneezing when starting.

Am just saying 2nd hand cars which are in high prevalence here in nigeria do not necessarily have the stock engine parts, and you can't really blame locals here for not bothering to know, since its most likely probably not accurate, but then some aren't like so.

peterjero: I had a small thrill today when I was driving my jalopy(1989 camry) around the eliozu Road in Port Harcourt doing around 100km/h when and 08 Toyota Tacoma Zoomed passed me since my car is old, I floored the throttle and didn't get what I want so I down shifted to gear 4 I hit 130, so when the Tacoma guy noticed I was tailing him he fired more, to cut the long story short, I hit 170 and Zoomed passed him my steering wheel was vibrating already at 140 but was bent on telling the Tacoma guy that my jalopy was well maintained.
And I've also beaten my former record of 160kmh on my jalopy. When I buy my audi a4 quattro I will do 200kmh

cne010: I don't see it as a Nigerian thingy just people not having a passion for cars.

Siena:

I'm sorry, I definitely see it as a Nigerian thing.

I don't know of anyone in the West, who drives an automobile legitimately, that doesn't know what the engine size of their car is. Otherwise how on earth would they insure their vehicles? The insurer will ALWAYS ask for the engine capacity.

Part of Nigeria's problem is a high percentage of owners don't insure their vehicles, or get them inspected (road worthiness, or whatever it's called).

It pays to be more clued up.

Siena:

I'm sorry, I definitely see it as a Nigerian thing.

I don't know of anyone in the West, who drives an automobile legitimately, that doesn't know what the engine size of their car is. Otherwise how on earth would they insure their vehicles? The insurer will ALWAYS ask for the engine capacity.

It pays to be more clued up.

Homguy: cool! but you shouldn't expect anymore from a tacoma. A stock 2.7l four cylinder engine
wouldnt do more especially on a large truck. besides your Camry' s got a lower weight-power ratio. an ideal opponent would be a Gl golf 3, not a Gti*wink*

peterjero:
Nope the the Toyota Tacoma has got v6 badge on it and SR5 badge as well, and that's apparently a 4.0liters engine same found on the fj cruiser I guess. Golf GTI IS A MONSTER.

CityNG:

And as I keep telling you guys you can't tell based on the badge.

Homguy: given that a car could easily be modified such as to invalidate the badge it carries, a badge is almost always the sole indicator of a car's innards to an observer, which we most often are. I reside in ibadan(golf 3's are used as cabs), boarded a golf 3 last year, and during that trip , noticed the golf out accelerated most private vehicles, the suspension was stiffer than a regular golf, I could feel the torque as it revved. I was pleasantly surprised. asked the driver why his golf was different from a regular golf 3 and he said he didn't know, all he knows is that, in his words "o maa n sare gaan. ti m ba oona die si bai a maa salo ni" I alighted at the end of the journey to find a GTI badge pasted on it. my suprise vanished, twas expected. most times a badge is the only indicator,as in the case you quoted earlier.

CityNG:

And as I keep telling you guys you can't tell based on the badge.

peterjero:
@cityng I know what I'm saying that ain't no 2.7l engine and how come I knew it was 2008, I know about cars sir, it's a v6 and bigger than 2.7l that was on that vehicle. Take a look at what I saw.

peterjero: Here in nigeria, people hardly modify their cars due to our mechanics inability to understand cars from owners perspective and unwillingness to learn new or modern technology. And who in nigeria would buy a a car ad new as a 2008 model and want to modify it.

CityNG:

But the badge can also be wrong.

A favorite car fad is debadging (at least here in the states), removing all badges completely. Now what?

I have seen normal Golfs here with GTi engine transplants. I have owned a VW Beetle (classic) with an early Porsche 911 engine, a mate has owned a Porsche 914 with a Chevy 454 engine in it, I have owned a Porsche 924 with a Buick V8 engine in it, a Mazda pickup truck with a comp lee Ford Mustang V8 power plant in it.

The most accurate way to tell is for the hop dot be cracked open.

However, this argument started because a car owner couldn't tell if his car had a turbo engine in it and thought it might be turbo due to the sound it made?

No badge can cure that condition unless you crack open the hood, look for turbo plumbings and the actual pump itself.

PS: I'm writing from the perspective of the actual car owner, not an observer.

Homguy: OK. you've got a point. a salient one. but except you are the actually owner of the car in question, you can't go popping other people's hoods to tell the motor underneath, hence you remain an observer still, regardless of the number of vehicles owned or driven or modified... posted from a owner and driver's vantage point.lol.

CityNG:

And many do.

I am friends with a shipper here. He farms out a lot of work to shops on cars that owners want the work down before they vehicles are shipped.

Nigeria is not the assbackwards behind the times place that some of you folks try to position her.

There are savvy automotive folks in Nigeria who take pride in their rides and do indeed make performance modifications.

Go and read the Camry thread.

peterjero:
The Camry thread is only body modifications, by the time one modifies his car no one here can help us with repairs unless specialized garages which are readily not available across the country, if not I would like a 1995 Toyota supra with at least 500hp power plant breathing underneath the hood. Or 1985 benz S 420 all tuned up. Older cars are actually my favourite though.
Ps: talking about my immediate environment people I have spoken to about car tuning will just say 'abeg no be so oyibo do the car'

CityNG:

It's completely possible that you made a correct guess but nothing in that picture shown indicates what is under the hood.

Every single body cladding, suspension lift, trim can be transferred between 4cyl or 6cyl.

Again, opening up the hood is the only way to tell what lies in the engine bay. Not the way the exhaust sounds or the performance.

I was at an of road event once. I saw an older Toyota pick up that was performing very well and was sure it had at least a converted V6 or even a V8. Lo and behold after I approached the owner it had only the I4 in it. Owner owns a machine shop so he has performed every single trick in the book in building the engine.

peterjero:
Again @cityng don't get me wrong here the design of that car is a v6 and if modified as you have opined then, it would either a v8 pr a turbo i4 that was powering that close to or more than 2tons truck, button line is that was way more powerful than my 115hp Camry and 19years newer than my 1989 vehicle, but he couldn't step on the gas like I did. I just had fun doing that, but before you say my car is a sedan and has lower ground clearance, I was in a benz gl 450 driven by a family friend who is also a petrol head as I am he did 250kmh, over took a 2010 land cruiser at 220kmh then overtook a range rover sport at 240kmh before hitting 250kmh and then slowed down to 160kmh. That's an suv that's way more heavier than a Tacoma and as high off the ground like a Tacoma. So I should be happy. @siena once said the guy who drove a benz 190 shouldn't be happy he floored a Toyota hilux, that's because @siena hasn't seen the way Toyota hilux are been driven here in nigeria.