okeyxyz: @OP has not actually said anything concrete but is being rather vague and abstract. Okay, let's assume it's islam he's talking about, We must note that he has not actually found fault with islam but with people (ab)using islam as justification to perpetuate their wickedness, And it's not just an islamic phenomenon, I know quite a number of christians(even a very close relative of mine who is a pastor) who are just as wicked. So, the question is: does the islamic doctrine say that a woman should not have education? That a woman does not have right to choose her own husband? That she should not own property? I am guessing No!! The fact is people tend to judge others outside their own faith/culture based on ignorance, fear and bad press. I can just safely assume that the @Reyginus, from his assertive stance, knows little or nothing about islam...

And No, I am not a moslem.

well I am. and that reyginus spoke like an ignorant buffo.on
unless he can prove the bolded in the affirmative.

Mintayo:
D Bible says by their fruits u shall knw them...
D 'paedophilic fruit(sin)' planted by ur prophet is abt to be forced down d throat of Nigerians now...smh.
May God have mercy on you and open ur eyes!

how about:
-Police Parades Pastor Who Defiled 2 Under-age Girls In Edo
https://www.nairaland.com/1365757/police-parades-pastor-defiled-2

- 5ex Chat’ Pastor Gets Sack after Texting
Explicit Messages To Teenager
https://www.nairaland.com/283424/5ex-chat-pastor-gets-sack

- How Winners Chapel Pastor Molested
Me —housewife
https://www.nairaland.com/314880/how-winners-chapel-pastor-molested

etc etc etc?

dont even get me started on rcc sex abuse cases

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cleanvessel:

I would not blame you. A man suffering from hypnotism cannot know he has a problem.

...and that exactly is your problem.

manmacho: is a matter of sinless vs. Sinner. Pls. Make uf choice

meaning what? whats to choose?

cleanvessel:

Muslims consult the so-called good jinns through charms (hontu tira etc).

Christians do this.i
but the Messenger of God, Muhammad (pbuh) has expressly forbidden it.

“History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated."

cleanvessel:
What do you say is your problem with 2 Tim. 3:16?

F00028:
just curious. under which heading does judges 16:1 fall under?
New Living Translation (©2007):
"One day Samson went to the Philistine
town of Gaza and spent the night with a
prostitute."

is it your doctrine or instruction because it doesnt contain any reproof or correction?

and if you apply this pauline test to your entire bible, how much "scripture" would you have to expunge?

cleanvessel:
If after you have seen clearly from islamic sources that you are into idol worship and you have no regret, it is a waste of time still discussing with you. Your case does not require conviction alone, you also need deliverance from satanic bondage.

If after you have seen clearly from your own bible that it is fundamentally flawed and you have no regret, it is a waste of time still discussing with you. Your case does not require conviction alone, you also need deliverance from satanic bondage.

@cleanvessel
I have seen your "proof" but before we bury ourselves in it which is what I suspect you want us to do . please addresses my initial query:
Bible Testimony
2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of
God, and is profitable
A- for doctrine,
B- for reproof,
C- for correction,
D- for instruction in righteousness:

F00028:

just curious. under which heading does judges 16:1 fall under?
New Living Translation (©2007):
"One day Samson went to the Philistine
town of Gaza and spent the night with a
prostitute."

is it your doctrine or instruction because it doesnt contain any reproof or correction?


and if you apply this pauline test to your entire bible, how much "scripture" would you have to expunge?

cleanvessel:
Luke never told you he was not inspired. You must have misconstrued his statement.

New Living Translation. luke 1:
1 Many people have set out to write accounts about the events that have been fulfilled among us.
2 They used the eyewitness reports circulating among us from the early disciples.
3 Having carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I also have decided to write a careful account for you...

oya come construe am for me

cleanvessel: Even if he said he was not inspired and your allah said he was, it means your allah is not all-knowing.

please show where God in the Qur'an talks about any "luke".

cleanvessel: You worship your allah the same way Abd-Allah worshiped his idol.

proof?

@Cleanvessel
2tim 3:16 was your OP.
YOU choose to lead with it and it exposes fundamental flaws in your book- deal with it.

if accept 2tim 3:16 as inspired, then every other verse that doesn't fall under those four heads is not "scripture" and should be discarded. how much of the bible would you have left?

cleanvessel: @ F00028
I wonder how you reason. You have no answer to muslims worshiping Abdu-Allah's idol...

the answer is simple: muslims do not worship any idol. we worship the One True God, the Eternal Absolute, Who does not beget and was not begotten, and theres nothing else in His likeness.

cleanvessel:
What do you say should have happened for Samson's action? Was he a religious leader?

-if you see nothing wrong with sleeping with prostitutes just say so.

-2tim 3:16 says "ALL scripture" not just scripture about religious leaders.

cleanvessel:
Luke: Your allah says Jesus disciples were inspired and you are saying it is not true. You know more than your allah. Very good of you. Go on.

luke says he was not inspired!
are you sure the writer was a disciple of Jesus? do you know his history?

cleanvessel:

This appears undisputable by the muslim friends. The Bible is the WORD OF GOD. Again, since the disciples were INSPIRED, their writings must be authentic, no doubt...

Luke tells you clearly he wasn't inspired!
he wrote because everyone else was writing and it seemed like a good idea for him to also write.
- read the first three verse of the book of Luke

pointblank 321: I don't care if this post is deleted like the ones before it.

Bible Testimony

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable

A- for doctrine,

B- for reproof,

C- for correction,

D- for instruction in righteousness:

just curious. under which heading does judges 16:1 fall under?
New Living Translation (©2007):
"One day Samson went to the Philistine
town of Gaza and spent the night with a
prostitute."

is it your doctrine or instruction because it doesnt contain any reproof or correction?


and if you apply this pauline test to your entire bible, how much "scripture" would you have to expunge?

Say, ‘The truth is from your Lord’: Let him who will believe, believe and let him who will, reject, reject……
The Noble Quran, 18:29

are these two the only ones you know?

"Imagine what $10 billion would
do if invested in the electricity sector..."
$16 billion has already been spent on the power sector between 1999 and 2007 but na Abacha $10b dey chook ur eye....mtcheeeew!

snubish: Important thread where we could have learned about how worship helps to liberate us from a slavish devotion to our base desires towards a higher spiritual state. But losers gatecrashed it and turned it into another futile debate...

if you sincerely believed the above, why are you opening this door:

snubish:
Which kind of character comes on nl and says Freud is a quack that frankly deserves no response.

? ? ?
if you want to know more about frued's quackery (or "pseudoscience"- if you prefer a bigger word) look up: frederick crews, adolf
grünbaum, karl popper, The Memory Wars: Freud's Legacy in Dispute (1995) and Unauthorized Freud: Doubters Confront a Legend (1998).

google.
you'll get all the "logical" answers you need.

what kind of "logical" answers do you expect to questions like these?

but I'm thinking, if maybe you're going to make a point why dont you just go ahead and make it?

@tbaba
freud did. and its balderdash. and you shouldn't be promoting it just because its out there.

nice. just one thing though: sigmund freud was a quack.

^^^
not the science....please not the science!

NL member:
So lanre do you belive that I am going to burn in hell for all eternity if I die as an atheist?

this is one thing with atheists I always find curious.
what do you care if someone believes or even wishes you burn in hell for all eternity
you don't believe in God, heaven, hell or any final judgement so why is it an issue

what list? who told you there was a list??
he wasn't there to take a roll call of the inhabitants.

^^^u have still not answered the question

enilove:
I got a confirmation from God that Jesus Christ is the only way...

anyway, how did you know it was God?

where's the pic?

he can afford it

it won't work.

if 4 wives works for men it doesnt mean 4 husbands will work for women.

men and women just aren't built the same. deal with it.

no.15 has been debunked by myth busters and no.28 is not impossible

BlueMurder:

Right. Ultimately, you'll stick to what works for you. But not all monogamous unions exhibit close family bonds, and not all polygamous ones are epitomes of chaos.

exactly

@BlueMurder
what I meant was, marrying a second wife just to show the first wife is not a good reason.

Bulldog: If the answers are sincere(no deception intended) muslims prove it Then. stop them and not sit around reciting the quran. You guys know them. Words without action is wasted in favour of whatever the word is against

the commander-in-chief of the federal republic of nigeria has not stopped them what makes you think ordinary citizens can?