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Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by 1000Capacity: 3:37am On Apr 21
Kobojunkie:
1. The Bible does no such thing as you claim there. Rather, Paul and Peter, both of whom lived in the Land of Canaan, during the time that was the Last Days of God's Judgement against the Nation of Israel(and Judah) under the Law of Moses, for reasons best known to them chose to assert the stance of the Old Law of Moses where married women are concerned. Jesus Christ, God's New Law, however, made it abundantly clear that in the Kingdom of God

▶ Marriage is of the world of men and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36. This is to echo the fact that God Himself cursed marriage from the beginning
and that which is cursed cannot be of the Kingdom of God.
▶ There is only one head over a man and a woman in His Kingdom, and He alone is that Head/Teacher/Authority/Master -
▶ All men and women in His Kingdom are equaled (No hierarchies) exist in His Kingdom-
▶ There are no blessings in the Kingdom of God on those who choose marriage; only those who chose to live as Eunuchs have God's special blessings -
▶ Those among the women who would choose to have children should weep for themselves and their children for it is those of them who would live as Eunuch(and the barren among them) that are blessed by God -


I don't know if you have written your own Bible. God never caused marriage, In Genesis 1:26-27 and 2:18-24, God commands man and woman to leave father and mother and become husband and wife through uniting in a one-flesh act that seals their love and which can bring forth children. The formation of family is part of humanity's call to a loving stewardship of creation and culture. God is the author of every creation.

Also, Jesus first miracle was At a wedding party. My favorite where he turned water to wine. So with that, marriage or union is established in the kingdom of God.
As it was in the beginning is now, and ever shall be, world without end Amen cheesy

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Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by 1000Capacity: 3:46am On Apr 21
Kobojunkie:
I am the last person interested in a fight with anyone, even on here. . undecided
If you are interested, I am willing to share my knowledge in Bible tradition and scriptures with you.

This heart is specially for you..
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by Kobojunkie: 3:58am On Apr 21
1000Capacity:
■ I don't know if you have written your own Bible. God never caused marriage, In Genesis 1:26-27 and 2:18-24, God commands man and woman to leave father and mother and become husband and wife through uniting in a one-flesh act that seals their love and which can bring forth children. The formation of family is part of humanity's call to a loving stewardship of creation and culture. God is the author of every creation.
■ Also, Jesus first miracle was At a wedding party. My favorite where he turned water to wine. So with that, marriage or union is established in the kingdom of God. As it was in the beginning is now, and ever shall be, world without end Amen cheesy
1. Right there in Genesis 3 vs 16, the same God who had earlier defined marriage as an agreement that is formed by a man and a woman placed His curse on the woman in the union. He also cursed the woman in childbearing in the same verse. Clearly, the fact that her end— post sin— was worse than her beginning— before sin—, in both cases meant cursed her. And that which is cursed passes on its cursed stated to that which it enters into agreement with or births. undecided

2. That is a silly conclusion on your part though. Does the fact that He also ate and drank with prostitutes and taxpayers equally mean that their lifestyle was equally established as a part of the Kingdom of God then? undecided
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by 1000Capacity: 6:36am On Apr 21
Kobojunkie:
1. Right there in Genesis 3 vs 16, the same God who had earlier defined marriage as an agreement that is formed by a man and a woman placed His curse on the woman in the union. He also cursed the woman in childbearing in the same verse. Clearly, the fact that her end— post sin— was worse than her beginning— before sin—, in both cases meant cursed her. And that which is cursed passes on its cursed stated to that which it enters into agreement with or births. undecided

2. That is a silly conclusion on your part though. Does the fact that He also ate and drank with prostitutes and taxpayers equally mean that their lifestyle was equally established as a part of the Kingdom of God then? undecided

You see the reason why me and you will fight ehen. Instead of you to make your second point in peace, you quickly chipping im a SNIDE remark. Why call my point silly angry
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by Kobojunkie: 6:44am On Apr 21
1000Capacity:
■ You see the reason why me and you will fight ehen. Instead of you to make your second point in peace, you quickly chipping im a SNIDE remark. Why call my point silly angry
Concluding that because Jesus Christ attended a wedding and also performed a miracle at the wedding should only mean one thing and one thing only which is that Jesus Christ attended that particular wedding and performed a miracle at that particular wedding. The conclusion that that event should serve to nullify every proclamation regarding marriage and the Kingdom of God can only amount from a disconnect in reasoning. undecided

Think about it carefully. What did the wedding he attended have to do with the Kingdom of God? Are miracles only available where the Kingdom of God is concerned? Why even reason that that wedding and the miracle had to be about the Kingdom of God? Does the presence or Jesus Christ at a place or event automagically mean the place or event is sanctioned as a part of the Kingdom of God? I mean there are so many questions when you really consider the reasoning behind such a conclusion as the one you posted earlier. It makes no sense if you really really consider it. undecided
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by 3RNEST(m): 10:20am On Apr 21
Seun:
"The husband is the head of his family. He should strive to be wiser, smarter, & wealthier than his wife. But in any case, a wife must defer to her husband's authority as her leader. He should listen to her, but after he listens, she must accept his decisions. He's in charge."

This is the traditional and religious view of marriage. Do you agree with it? I subscribe to the modern view but I worry about its practicality.

My view is that every couple has a different dynamic and their families should be ruled by consensus, but the partner who is more competent in a particular area should be deferred to more often when dealing with issues in that area. If the wife is an accountant, she'll control finances.
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Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by ChybuzzDD(m): 7:45am On Apr 22
[quote author=Puss360 post=129542704]
Don't mind dem... Always wanting to control and lord over women...[/quote]

As long as men pay your bride prices, house and take care of your needs, they will continue to control & lord it over you.

If you want to be your own lord, stay alone and cater for your own needs
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by Puss360(f): 8:13am On Apr 22
[quote author=ChybuzzDD post=129566603][/quote]
Okay noted...

Take care of my needs, so women doesn't take care of man needs abi?
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by Kelechi009: 9:44am On Apr 22
1000Capacity:



I don't know if you have written your own Bible. God never caused marriage, In Genesis 1:26-27 and 2:18-24, God commands man and woman to leave father and mother and become husband and wife through uniting in a one-flesh act that seals their love and which can bring forth children. The formation of family is part of humanity's call to a loving stewardship of creation and culture. God is the author of every creation.

Also, Jesus first miracle was At a wedding party. My favorite where he turned water to wine. So with that, marriage or union is established in the kingdom of God.
As it was in the beginning is now, and ever shall be, world without end Amen cheesy

The person you are replying is a stark atheist who is also mentally deranged, so do not waste your time arguing with him/her. He or she quotes Bible out of context to attack defame and to confuse. Do not even bother.
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by FatherCHRISTMAS: 9:54am On Apr 22
Kelechi009:


The person you are replying is a stark atheist who is also mentally deranged, so do not waste your time arguing with him/her. He or she quotes Bible out of context to attack defame and to confuse. Do not even bother.

Let her be. I like her that way. You have to be an atheist to understand truth. The moment you are able to hit atheism, that means you are no longer following blindly. That's means you are on the path to discovering truth.
You cant find truth without first questioning the age old teachings

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Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by Kelechi009: 11:35am On Apr 22
FatherCHRISTMAS:


Let her be. I like her that way. You have to be an atheist to understand truth. The moment you are able to hit atheism, that means you are no longer following blindly. That's means you are on the path to discovering truth.
You cant find truth without first questioning the age old teachings

For one, you are a very stupid person for quoting me & saying this rubbish to me this early morning.

Two, I have no hate or love business with atheist or atheism. You do not need to quote Bible out of context to prove atheism or disprove it, just be an atheist in peace and leave quoting bible for reference. If not mental illness, I do not see how you despise something but you need to quote it for reference, like are you crazy...what the hell is that?!

Three, I won't even be surprised if this is your second moniker used to attack people on Nairaland because most of you are mentally deranged.
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by Kobojunkie: 11:15pm On Apr 22
FatherCHRISTMAS:

Let her be. I like her that way. You have to be an atheist to understand truth. The moment you are able to hit atheism, that means you are no longer following blindly. That's means you are on the path to discovering truth.
You cant find truth without first questioning the age old teachings
You actually hit the nail on the head there. it is for that very reason that Jesus Christ had nothing but woes/curses to declare on al those who cling to religious and the many religious leaders beginning with those who existed during His time. undecided

It is indeed to find the God of Israel and His Son, Jesus Christ, while blinded by religion. lipsrsealed
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by FatherCHRISTMAS: 12:41am On Apr 23
Kelechi009:


For one, you are a very stupid person for quoting me & saying this rubbish to me this early morning.

Two, I have no hate or love business with atheist or atheism. You do not need to quote Bible out of context to prove atheism or disprove it, just be an atheist in peace and leave quoting bible for reference. If not mental illness, I do not see how you despise something but you need to quote it for reference, like are you crazy...what the hell is that?!

Three, I won't even be surprised if this is your second moniker used to attack people on Nairaland because most of you are mentally deranged.


1000Capacity isn't stupid. That aside, you don't correct using hate and insult grin
Go in peace
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by Kelechi009: 3:53am On Apr 23
FatherCHRISTMAS:



1000Capacity isn't stupid. That aside, you don't correct using hate and insult grin
Go in peace

Go in peace ke?! No oh, I am not a preacher of love, I am not here to preach love at all.

I am not trying to correct you, I am here to tell you that you're mentally deranged, you both should get your head checked in the psychiatric wards.

Mental illness is YOU trying to quote a text from a book you do not believe in, a book you hate & despise, a book you believe is a myth but you constantly quote it. You must be really CRAZY!

If you know you are not a BASTARD, refrain from this mentally ill behaviour.
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by Hollybratt(m): 6:38am On Apr 24
Kelechi009:


Go in peace ke?! No oh, I am not a preacher of love, I am not here to preach love at all.

I am not trying to correct you, I am here to tell you that you're mentally deranged, you both should get your head checked in the psychiatric wards.

Mental illness is YOU trying to quote a text from a book you do not believe in, a book you hate & despise, a book you believe is a myth but you constantly quote it. You must be really CRAZY!

If you know you are not a BASTARD, refrain from this mentally ill behaviour.
cheesy
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by wirinet(m): 8:52am On Apr 24
UjuJoan2:


Nobody is the HEAD. Husband and wife are co-captains, and each have their own roles to fulfill, both equally important.
False. In any social structure or organisation, there must be a leader. This applies to all animals, except solitary animals. Marriage is the most basic human social structure, and for it to be successful, there must be a defined leader/head. Now, that leader does not mean dictatorship, and it might even not necessarily be the man. In some cases the woman takes on the responsibility of leading the family.

Societies without a leader are often don't achieve any form of greatness and are often subservient to those with strong and defined leaders.
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by Hathor5(f): 8:58am On Apr 24
wirinet:

False. In any social structure or organisation, there must be a leader. This applies to all animals, except solitary animals. Marriage is the most basic human social structure, and for it to be successful, there must be a defined leader/head. Now, that leader does not mean dictatorship, and it might even not necessarily be the man. In some cases the woman takes on the responsibility of leading the family.

Societies without a leader are often don't achieve any form of greatness and are often subservient to those with strong and defined leaders.

Well, the Nigerian society fails in many areas not only despite leaders but because of them.
And could you kindly show me any society without a leader?
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by Kobojunkie: 12:44pm On Apr 24
False. In any social structure or organisation, there must be a leader. This applies to all animals, except solitary animals. Marriage is the most basic human social structure, and for it to be successful, there must be a defined leader/head. Now, that leader does not mean dictatorship, and it might even not necessarily be the man. In some cases the woman takes on the responsibility of leading the family.
So mutually beneficial friendship no dey again. Dem no quality as social structure. There must be a leader among friends/companions/partners etc., or else friendship no go dey success? Na wa oo🙄
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by hammer567: 8:51am On Apr 25
Seun:
"The husband is the head of his family. He should strive to be wiser, smarter, & wealthier than his wife. But in any case, a wife must defer to her husband's authority as her leader. He should listen to her, but after he listens, she must accept his decisions. He's in charge."

This is the traditional and religious view of marriage. Do you agree with it? I subscribe to the modern view but I worry about its practicality.

My view is that every couple has a different dynamic and their families should be ruled by consensus, but the partner who is more competent in a particular area should be deferred to more often when dealing with issues in that area. If the wife is an accountant, she'll control finances.


Hello Seun, I hope you are doing well?

Please, fp this thread for the entertainment it would bring to nairaland.

It is getting to boring.


Cheers!
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by hammer567: 9:02am On Apr 25
Seun:
"The husband is the head of his family. He should strive to be wiser, smarter, & wealthier than his wife. But in any case, a wife must defer to her husband's authority as her leader. He should listen to her, but after he listens, she must accept his decisions. He's in charge."

This is the traditional and religious view of marriage. Do you agree with it? I subscribe to the modern view but I worry about its practicality.

My view is that every couple has a different dynamic and their families should be ruled by consensus, but the partner who is more competent in a particular area should be deferred to more often when dealing with issues in that area. If the wife is an accountant, she'll control finances.



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Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by DeathToSimps: 2:02pm On Apr 25
henrimoto:
.."This is the traditional and religious view of marriage. Do you agree with it? I subscribe to the modern view but I worry about its practicality."

These days, when making decisions as the Father and head of the House, one has to put his Wife ( The Woman) into consideration. You consult with her, brainstorm with her.

..When no be MILITARY MARRIAGE - Obey before complain.

If not, peace no go too dey the house. ..

Yes, na man be the head of the house but na women get house. The women as wives dey make the home lively and interesting to stay.

A home without a woman as wife, dey dey boring and lonely.

The above paragraphs are some of the reasons why as a man, when making a decision in your home consider to carry your wife along.

No forget say, in many homes today, na the women dey cover the secrets of the man.

Dirty simp.
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by henrimoto(m): 2:04pm On Apr 25
DeathToSimps:

Dirty simp.
You na clean Red Pillar na, Thank God for Nairaland.
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by Pootle: 1:04pm On Apr 26
mr senu i will love to be one of your mod
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by awesomeJ(m): 6:13am On Apr 27
Seun:
"The husband is the head of his family. He should strive to be wiser, smarter, & wealthier than his wife. But in any case, a wife must defer to her husband's authority as her leader. He should listen to her, but after he listens, she must accept his decisions. He's in charge."

This is the traditional and religious view of marriage. Do you agree with it? I subscribe to the modern view but I worry about its practicality.

My view is that every couple has a different dynamic and their families should be ruled by consensus, but the partner who is more competent in a particular area should be deferred to more often when dealing with issues in that area. If the wife is an accountant, she'll control finances.

{ Your view is perfect;
I love you;
Jesus loves you more}

These are true!!!
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by Kobojunkie: 2:30pm On Apr 27
awesomeJ:


{ Your view is perfect;
I love you;
Jesus loves you more}

These are true!!!
You lied! Jesus Christ said His Love is only available to those who obey His teachings and commandments. So where do you get off lying to people who don't even care for Him that they are loved by Him? lipsrsealed
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by 1000Capacity: 4:15pm On Apr 27
Kobojunkie:
You lied! Jesus Christ said His Love is only available to those who obey His teachings and commandments. So where do you get off lying to people who don't even care for Him that they are loved by Him? lipsrsealed

Jesus clearly recognized that one of the insults hurled against him was that he was “a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!” 7:34. Do you understand now
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by Kobojunkie: 4:33pm On Apr 27
1000Capacity:
∆ Jesus clearly recognized that one of the insults hurled against him was that he was “a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!” 7:34. Do you understand now
What has this response to do with what Jesus Christ is recorded to have instead said though?. undecided

If I, for example, recognize your disdain for me, does that in some way provide substantiated for what are your assumptions? undecided
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by 1000Capacity: 4:54pm On Apr 27
Kobojunkie:
What has this response to do with what Jesus Christ is recorded to have instead said though?. undecided

If I, for example, recognize your disdain for me, does that in some way provide substantiated for what are your assumptions? undecided
We are described based on our actions and words. Christ, according to Luke 7:34 made sure he brought people who were questionable characters close to him. This is loving your neighbors regardless of their inadequacy.

If christ has said he doesn't want to be seen with sinners, how will he have preached his messages of God's love?
Christ came and died for the world, that's an act of selfless love. He died for you.
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by RepoMan007: 5:06pm On Apr 27
Seun:
...but the partner who is more competent in a particular area should be deferred to more often when dealing with issues in that area. If the wife is an accountant...
1. how will competwncy be established when vocatuon of both partner doesnt cover such issue?
2. your example of accountant managing finance is not appropriate. in marriages with no accountant, who manages it? besides accounting is centred around book and record keeping and not administratìon.
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by Kobojunkie: 6:59pm On Apr 27
1000Capacity:
■ We are described based on our actions and words. Christ, according to Luke 7:34 made sure he brought people who were questionable characters close to him. This is loving your neighbors regardless of their inadequacy.
■ If christ has said he doesn't want to be seen with sinners, how will he have preached his messages of God's love? Christ came and died for the world, that's an act of selfless love. He died for you.
Described by whom?
31 “What shall I say about the people of this time? What can I compare them to? What are they like?
32 They are like children sitting in the marketplace. One group of children calls to the other children and says, ‘We played flute music for you, but you did not dance;
we sang a sad song, but you did not cry.’
33 John the Baptizer came and did not eat the usual food or drink wine. And you say, ‘He has a demon inside him.’
34 The Son of Man came eating and drinking. And you say, ‘Look at him! He eats too much and drinks too much wine! He is a friend of tax collectors and other sinners!’
35 But wisdom is shown to be right by those who accept it.” - Luke 7 vs 31 - 35
Where in that there do you obtain this claim that Jesus Christ Himself said He loved His

2. Again, We know from the Gospels that Jesus Christ preached to the sinners. But Jesus Christ never said in His Gospels that He did so out of Love for them, nor is it recorded that His Love belongs to the Sinners. What Jesus Christ instead said is that His Love belongs to those who obey His teachings and commandments — those who love Him. undecided
9 I have loved you as the Father has loved me. Now continue in my love.
10 I have obeyed my Father’s commands, and he continues to love me. In the same way, if you obey my commands, I will continue to love you.
11 I have told you these things so that you can have the true happiness that I have. I want you to be completely happy.
12 This is what I command you: Love each other as I have loved you.
13 The greatest love people can show is to die for their friends.
14 You are my friends if you do what I tell you to do.
15 I no longer call you servants, because servants don’t know what their master is doing. But now I call you friends because I have told you everything that my Father told me. - John 15 vs 9 - 15
These are the actual words of Jesus Christ making clear that His Love, unlike what was assumed by the people of His time, belongs only to those who continued in HIs Love — those who obey His teachings and commandments. undecided
Re: The Husband Is The Head Of The Family? by DaniDani(m): 9:11pm On Apr 28
Nagging women full this thread. Jenny clave should be banned from commenting in any relationship thread. She will pollute naive emotional ladies. That girl is a toxic feminist.

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