Blessed is thou that expect nothing for thou shall not be disapointed.that is independent

no one is indispensable....!

DailyNews:
The word: industrious woman is more sensible/dignifying than “independent woman”.

“Independent woman” is a fallacious phrase created by some presumed proponents of failed feminism campaign.

There's nothing like independent woman because every woman depends on a man financially/materially/intellectually, but not all men are dependent on women financially/materially/intellectually

freecocoa:
So I created this thread to get better views on who/what people think/believe an independent woman is/should be. A lady (firstEva) talked about her boyfriend having two cars yet she has to 'trek' about town, asking if it isn't selfish of him not to give her one, now I see nothing wrong in her wanting to share her boyfriend's car, only thing is, she didn't ask but almost everyone sounded like she committed a heinous crime for even just harboring the thought of ever using his car, shior! .

I believe an independent woman is one who can take care of herself but that doesn't mean she can't ask her man for stuffs when she needs it and ofcourse he gets to do same.

I'm only asking because from what I read yesterday, people sounded like an Independent woman is one who doesn't ask her man for anything whatsoever, I come dey wonder, if I can share my body, my time, my brain, my energy etc with my man, what then is a 'ducking' car?

The thinking that your body, brain and time should be monetised and paid for by the man is what makes u dependent. The man also shares the aforementioned with you, should he start demanding for stuff? It's not a man's job to provide u with a life u never had! That's your job and parents' to treat u better. The lady- OP who wanted her BF' car, can't afford to buy a car and her parents didn't give Her one. She should be mad at herself and parents not the boyfriend!!

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The thinking that your body, brain and time should be monetised and paid for by the man is what makes u dependent. The man also shares the aforementioned with you, should he start demanding for stuff?.

I will simply refer you to NE YO song on miss independent. Assuming you listen to it, you would not have created this thread

StealthyMe:
Independent - Not subject to control by others
Not requiring or relying on something/someone else

An independent woman is one who possesses the aforementioned character.

Hey u!
I tend to disagree with you on your point -'not requiring or relying on' depicts independency.
Every human will definitely REQUIRE one bit of something(information,idea,suggestion, support E.T.C from another, each passing day.
Requiring doesn't make you less independent it just simply establish the fact that 'no Man is an island' which infact simply means No one is self-sufficient.We all need to Rely on someone at some point in our lives.
Be it the:
Employer of labour/Employee
Parent /Child
Government /Citizens
Lawyer/Client/Banker/Customer
Man/Woman

Indepency is not measured by the richness of your pocket to get all you need, (not possible though,as money in itself is also a means to getting something but doesn't get all things)
or physical strength.
It is measured by,but not limited to,your
attitude,mayb thought as well through which,you know when to Require/Rely on and when not to and applying it to all areas of Life.Such as financial,morals, social E.T.C

Independency is not limited to one angle just as this opinion of mine MAY NOT be Universal.

How did it get to front page? Are you dating an MOD? just saying coz your topic no worth FP..

freecocoa:
So I created this thread to get better views on who/what people think/believe an independent woman is/should be. A lady (firstEva) talked about her boyfriend having two cars yet she has to 'trek' about town, asking if it isn't selfish of him not to give her one, now I see nothing wrong in her wanting to share her boyfriend's car, only thing is, she didn't ask but almost everyone sounded like she committed a heinous crime for even just harboring the thought of ever using his car, shior! .

I believe an independent woman is one who can take care of herself but that doesn't mean she can't ask her man for stuffs when she needs it and ofcourse he gets to do same.

I'm only asking because from what I read yesterday, people sounded like an Independent woman is one who doesn't ask her man for anything whatsoever, I come dey wonder, if I can share my body, my time, my brain, my energy etc with my man, what then is a 'ducking' car?

StealthyMe:
Independent - Not subject to control by others
Not requiring or relying on something/someone else

An independent woman is one who possesses the aforementioned character.

Hey u!
I tend to disagree with you on your point -'not requiring or relying on' depicts independency.
Every human will definitely REQUIRE one bit of something(information,idea,suggestion, support E.T.C from another, each passing day.
Requiring doesn't make you less independent it just simply establish the fact that 'no Man is an island' which infact simply means No one is self-sufficient.We all need to Rely on someone at some point in our lives.
Be it the:
Employer of labour/Employee
Parent /Child
Government /Citizens
Lawyer/Client/Banker/Customer
Man/Woman

Indepency is not measured by the richness of your pocket to get all you need, (not possible though,as money in itself is also a means to getting something but doesn't get all things)
or physical strength.
It is measured by,but not limited to,your
attitude,mayb thought as well through which,you know when to Require/Rely on and when not to and applying it to all areas of Life.Such as financial,morals, social E.T.C

Independency is not limited to one angle just as this opinion of mine MAY NOT be Universal.

naijaboiy:
This thread has potentials

Hello

UjSizzle:

It works both ways for the sexes. If you want a husband, then be ready to act as a wife too and vice versa.

Your tone sounds like that of fear. Its a known fact that African women are not as industrous as they used to be. Only God knows what a lot of women will live on in a world of sapiosexuals.

An independent woman is one that can make good decisions, accept responsibilities for her actions, can cater for her materials need without relying solely on others. This doesn't means that that she is an island unto herself, rather, she only rely on others for companionship,comfort and social intercourse in other to derive the joy of humanity.

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An independent woman? = fallacy.

Misogynist2014:
'Sharing my body.' Some people still think sex is a 'favour.' Giving things to ur lady is manly, but when you see it as his 'compulsory' responsibility, cos religion and tradition supports it, then you are simply a whöre.

My friend use your thinking cap, did I say that because I share my body he must give me a car? I said after sharing more important things then why is a car such a huge deal like everyone was making it sound?

adconline:

The thinking that your body, brain and time should be monetised and paid for by the man is what makes u dependent. The man also shares the aforementioned with you, should he start demanding for stuff? It's not a man's job to provide u with a life u never had! That's your job and parents' to treat u better. The lady- OP who wanted her BF' car, can't afford to buy a car and her parents didn't give Her one. She should be mad at herself and parents not the boyfriend!!

I guess comprehension is the problem here.

freecocoa:
if I can share my body, my time, my brain, my energy etc

We share the exact same thing with the ladies , the problem I have with most ladies is that they feel they are doing us a favour when we have sex ( or make love as the case may be ).

neoapocalypse:


We share the exact same thing with the ladies , the problem I have with most ladies is that they feel they are doing us a favour when we have sex ( or make love as the case may be ).

Maybe my grammar is going bad, what I actually mean is that, if we get to share those things mentioned as a couple, what then is a car?

Its this simple. An independent lady is one who isn't keen about a man paying her bills and one who has a realistic ambition.

freecocoa:


I believe an independent woman is one who can take care of herself but that doesn't mean she can't ask her man for stuffs when she needs it and ofcourse he gets to do same.

I'm only asking because from what I read yesterday, people sounded like an Independent woman is one who doesn't ask her man for anything whatsoever, I come dey wonder, if I can share my body, my time, my brain, my energy etc with my man, what then is a 'ducking' car?

Does he not share his body, his time, his brains his energy and his money with you? Why should not giving you a car be a big deal? Supposing you dnt end up getting married to him, will you return the car? Abi that one na your pension?

Women and their reasoning.

To me, i don't see how a man benefits more in a relationship than a woman.

freecocoa:
My friend use your thinking cap, did I say that because I share my body he must give me a car? I said after sharing more important things then why is a car such a huge deal like everyone was making it sound?

What important things u talking bout as being shared? Is it sex? Or the moments shared together? Compare the value of those things with that of a car n see which is more valuable in terms of cost. A reasonable guy won't wana give out his car to his girlfriend who hasn't done anything that's added value to his life. Till d girl has done something of value for the guy before he can let out his priced possession to the girl. Having sex with or spending time with a guy doesn't entitle a girl to whatever the guy has. Until she has helped him in a way before she can be impliedly given access to his possessions. Most guys keep girls for just sexual pleasure and still call them girlfriend. U wudnt expect that kind of guy to put his priced items in2 her care.

vfactor:



Does he share his body, his time, his brains and his money with you? Why should not given you a car be a big deal? Supposing you dnt end up getting married to him, will you return the car? Abi that one na your pension?

Women and their reasoning.

To me, i don't see how a man benefits more in a relationship than a woman.

Make una no kill me o, that part prolly came out wrong, if you kept reading you would have realized that, I don tire abeg.

When I said share, shouldn't it have told you that his body is also involved? Hian.

freecocoa:
I guess comprehension is the problem here.

It's your thinking that most importantly your body , must be given stuff in consideration for the time u your spend with ur boyfriend is the problem. You obviously don't see anything wrong in a lady asking to have her BF's car when she in fact can't afford to have one or at least keep one maintained. When you imply that a guy is supposed to pay for S3X, which both of u enjoy, it replaces independence with trade by barter- old cliche- use what you have to get what u want.

Hmmm... Some men want to be respected by their wives but are not willing to sacrifice for or take good care of her.
Well it's good for a woman to be hard working too but it's the responsibility of a man to make sure that is wife and children are comfortable.
If u know that God as made u as a man the head of ur home then prove it. Ur wife doesn't have to struggle as much as u do b4 she enjoys the good things of life.

vfactor:



Does he not share his body, his time, his brains his energy and his money with you? Why should not given you a car be a big deal? Supposing you dnt end up getting married to him, will you return the car? Abi that one na your pension?

Women and their reasoning.

To me, i don't see how a man benefits more in a relationship than a woman.

She can never get it.. And she uses independence in the same sentence. She should call it what it is.-companion tax or S3X tax!

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freecocoa:
Make una no kill me o, that part prolly came out wrong, if you kept reading you would have realized that, I don tire abeg.

When I said share, shouldn't it have told you that his body is also involved? Hian.

No body dey kill you...I just wan correct one kind thinking women dey get

kayustones:
Hmmm... Some men want to be respected by their wives but are not willing to sacrifice for or take good care of her.
Well it's good for a woman to be hard working too but it's the responsibility of a man to make sure that is wife and children are comfortable.

We are not talking about wife and kids here! We are talking about girlfriends! Don't shift the goal post.

adconline:

It's your thinking that most importantly your body , must be given stuff in consideration for the time u your spend with ur boyfriend is the problem. You obviously don't see anything wrong in a lady asking to have her BF's car when she in fact can't afford to have one or at least keep one maintained. When you imply that a guy is supposed to pay for S3X, which both of u enjoy, it replaces independence with trade by barter- old cliche- use what you have to get what u want.

Please be kind enough to read my other posts maybe that would help you try to understand it, there's no reasoning with you people when there's money involved, btw ladies like myself have given boyfriends money plenty times so I don't see the big deal in sharing material things with your significant other, if I were your girlfriend and had something you needed but I refused to give it to you yet won't stop saying I love you, I wonder what that makes me.

adconline:

She can never get it.. And she uses independence in the same sentence. She should call it what it is.-companion tax or S3X tax!

You are the one who doesn't get it, the fact that you are more materially welloff than your girlfriend doesn't make you independent of her, one way or another you depend on her, the tables may even turn and she gets to help you monetarily, just what is the big deal in that? Abi una love na for mouth? I give up abeg.

buruike:




Hey u!
I tend to disagree with you on your point -'not requiring or relying on' depicts independency.
Every human will definitely REQUIRE one bit of something(information,idea,suggestion, support E.T.C from another, each passing day.
Requiring doesn't make you less independent it just simply establish the fact that 'no Man is an island' which infact simply means No one is self-sufficient.We all need to Rely on someone at some point in our lives.
Be it the:
Employer of labour/Employee
Parent /Child
Government /Citizens
Lawyer/Client/Banker/Customer
Man/Woman

Indepency is not measured by the richness of your pocket to get all you need, (not possible though,as money in itself is also a means to getting something but doesn't get all things)
or physical strength.
It is measured by,but not limited to,your
attitude,mayb thought as well through which,you know when to Require/Rely on and when not to and applying it to all areas of Life.Such as financial,morals, social E.T.C

Independency is not limited to one angle just as this opinion of mine MAY NOT be Universal.

Lol...
You're absolutely right

Independent actually means what i wrote up there...if you read my other posts,you will notice i said also that one cannot be independent in that context as we all require people in one way or the other to succeed.

There are varying definitions of independence and can be interpreted based on their definition.