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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:33pm On Dec 02, 2014
agaugust:


Why are you obsessed by who I am? Why are you so desperate to unravel my person? Will it increase how much jobless parasite welfare benefit ANC government pays you monthly for being unemployed?
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Because you made some bold claims, I asked you to prove it and you agreed.

Are you not a man of your word?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:00pm On Dec 02, 2014
patches689:


Because you made some bold claims, I asked you to prove it and you agreed.

Are you not a man of your word?

My word is that ATR-42 radar range is 330km and that is what my deal is based on, as long as you keep disputing that 330km, then we have no deal
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:19pm On Dec 02, 2014
DieVluit:
http://www.theparadigmng.com/?p=25956

Boko Haram Terrorists Invade Yobe State Government House

...and Nigerian soldiers killed most of the Bokos till the Harams ran away defeated, according to your own source.

"The insurgents forced their way into the Yobe State Government House before they were repelled by soldiers.According to a security source, the insurgents gained access to the house through the rear gate. Actually they entered the government house up to WAWA hall, but we were able to overcome them with the help of an air force helicopter that killed many of them,” he said."

Thanks for posting another Nigerian battle victory.

Meanwhile can you show us what battles South African army is fighting right now? I still see your army guns are silent and your jets are in frozen storage
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 9:25pm On Dec 02, 2014
MikeCZAR:
ok.
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-17582/
more blue paper evidence.post pictures of the al-tariq glide bomb in action.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:32am On Dec 03, 2014
agaugust:

My word is that ATR-42 radar range is 330km and that is what my deal is based on, as long as you keep disputing that 330km, then we have no deal
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No, the deal was based on me posting my source, see here:

agaugust:



Post ATR-42 Radar range from your own source and I will post my handgun and camo.[/b]

Not only you can make demands, I can too, so I am making my own demand. Simple.


I have posted two sources, now hold up on your side of the deal.

Why are you suddenly changing the terms? Are you not a man of your word? Why are you so afraid to post your "uniform and gun"?

My word is that ATR-42 radar range is 330km

Yes, YOUR WORD is that it has a 330km range, the MANUFACTURERS WORD is that it has 220km range.
http://www.aleniana.com/documents/8005904/17761599/factsheet_ATR_42_MP.pdf

No one cares about what you say, manufacturer has the final say on the topic.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:43am On Dec 03, 2014
agaugust:


...and Nigerian soldiers killed most of the Bokos till the Harams ran away defeated, according to your own source.

"The insurgents forced their way into the Yobe State Government House before they were repelled by soldiers.According to a security source, the insurgents gained access to the house through the rear gate. Actually they entered the government house up to WAWA hall, but we were able to overcome them with the help of an air force helicopter that killed many of them,” he said."

Thanks for posting another Nigerian battle victory.

Meanwhile can you show us what battles South African army is fighting right now? I still see your army guns are silent and your jets are in frozen storage
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It was a BH raid

It shows that they can strike anywhere in Northern Nigeria

Even a state-capital.

They overran numerous positions, no doubt captured more hardware, and got into the state-leaders office/residency.

That is utter humiliation.

South African guns are silent as we have quickly and decisively defeated our enemies.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:16am On Dec 03, 2014
patches689:


It was a BH raid

It shows that they can strike anywhere in Northern Nigeria

Even a state-capital.

They overran numerous positions, no doubt captured more hardware, and got into the state-leaders office/residency.

That is utter humiliation.

South African guns are silent as we have quickly and decisively defeated our enemies.

South Africa has NO enemy on homeland soil.

The only threat you have is Rhino poachers who defeated South African army, air force, and special forces combined, plus the American commandos hired to help you, all got defeated. SAAF helicopter crashed and killed 5 officers chasing Rhino poachers, likely poachers sh.ot down your air force helicopter.

After the Rhino thieves defeated South Africa, your president shamefully removed 500 Rhinos into safety in Bostwana that has a better army since South African military CANNOT protect your homeland. Rhino poachers even freely operated victoriously on South African army owned lands robbing SANDF of Rhinos on it's own military owned land areas cheesy cheesy cheesy


Terrorists can strike anywhere in the world.

Terrorist struck inside the government parliament building of Canada a 98% Christian nation and got to the office door of their Prime Minister

Terrorists cans strike South African government building and look Jacob Zuma face to face if they want to, they just don't have South Africa as their target yet, but anything can happen in the near future.

The attack on Yobe Government house was repelled by NA. NAF and SSS men. Most of the Boko fighters died according to the report posted by your fellow South African, he simply celebrated a Nigerian army victory !

#Show Us SANDF & SAAF In Battle Today.....Your Guided Bombs Have Never Been Tested In War Just Like Your Poorly Trained Army cheesy cheesy
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:02am On Dec 03, 2014
agaugust:


South Africa has NO enemy on homeland soil.

The only threat you have is Rhino poachers who defeated South African army, air force, and special forces combined, plus the American commandos hired to help you, all got defeated. SAAF helicopter crashed and killed 5 officers chasing Rhino poachers, likely poachers sh.ot down your air force helicopter.

After the Rhino thieves defeated South Africa, your president shamefully removed 500 Rhinos into safety in Bostwana that has a better army since South African military CANNOT protect your homeland. Rhino poachers even freely operated victoriously on South African army owned lands robbing SANDF of Rhinos on it's own military owned land areas cheesy cheesy cheesy


Terrorists can strike anywhere in the world.

Terrorist struck inside the government parliament building of Canada a 98% Christian nation and got to the office door of their Prime Minister

Terrorists cans strike South African government building and look Jacob Zuma face to face if they want to, they just don't have South Africa as their target yet, but anything can happen in the near future.

The attack on Yobe Government house was repelled by NA. NAF and SSS men. Most of the Boko fighters died according to the report posted by your fellow South African, he simply celebrated a Nigerian army victory !

#Show Us SANDF & SAAF In Battle Today.....Your Guided Bombs Have Never Been Tested In War Just Like Your Poorly Trained Army cheesy cheesy
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Rhino poaching is on the decrease

SANDF is not deployed with the focus on AP duties. AP duties are not a military concern.

The last two terrorist groups engaged by the SANDF in the DRC have been utterly destroyed and driven out of the region.

Terrorists struck the capital of one of your states and overran most of the city.

Boko Haram strike with impunity and capture town after town.

Boko Haram caused around 300 of your men to flee into Cameroon.

Only in failed states can large bodies of terrorists move around with impunity.

These are the facts. No one cares about your overly emotional posts.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 6:26am On Dec 03, 2014
Training of Nigerian "Ranger" Battalion cancelled before they receive advanced combat training
http://www.enca.com/media/video/nigeria-and-us-diplomatic-row-deepens

Nigerian emotions continue to overcome practical concerns
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by overhypedsteve(m): 6:59am On Dec 03, 2014
patches689:
Training of Nigerian "Ranger" Battalion cancelled before they receive advanced combat training
http://www.enca.com/media/video/nigeria-and-us-diplomatic-row-deepens

Nigerian emotions continue to overcome practical concerns
nice one there. We all seem to be looking at the issue from one point of view.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:37am On Dec 03, 2014
agaugust:


South Africa has NO enemy on homeland soil.

The only threat you have is Rhino poachers who defeated South African army, air force, and special forces combined, plus the American commandos hired to help you, all got defeated. SAAF helicopter crashed and killed 5 officers chasing Rhino poachers, likely poachers sh.ot down your air force helicopter.

After the Rhino thieves defeated South Africa, your president shamefully removed 500 Rhinos into safety in Bostwana that has a better army since South African military CANNOT protect your homeland. Rhino poachers even freely operated victoriously on South African army owned lands robbing SANDF of Rhinos on it's own military owned land areas cheesy cheesy cheesy


Terrorists can strike anywhere in the world.

Terrorist struck inside the government parliament building of Canada a 98% Christian nation and got to the office door of their Prime Minister

Terrorists cans strike South African government building and look Jacob Zuma face to face if they want to, they just don't have South Africa as their target yet, but anything can happen in the near future.

The attack on Yobe Government house was repelled by NA. NAF and SSS men. Most of the Boko fighters died according to the report posted by your fellow South African, he simply celebrated a Nigerian army victory !

#Show Us SANDF & SAAF In Battle Today.....Your Guided Bombs Have Never Been Tested In War Just Like Your Poorly Trained Army cheesy cheesy
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Truly your brain can never be bigger than a peanut. You trying as hard to parade yourself as military expert/guru but you only end up disgracing yourself with the level of your immaturity.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:19am On Dec 03, 2014
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:22am On Dec 03, 2014
Nigeria is close to signing up for one or two squadrons of JF-17s, according to Pakistani officials. (IHS/Patrick Allen)
The Nigerian Air Force (NAF) is close to finalising an order for the purchase of one or two squadrons of the JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft co-produced by Pakistan and China, a senior Pakistani Ministry of Defence official told IHS Jane's on 2 December.

Speaking at the International Defence Exhibition and Seminar (IDEAS) 2014 in Karachi, the official said the NAF finalised its recommendation for the purchase of 25-40 JF-17s after NAF chief air marshal Adesola Nunayon Amosu visited Pakistan in October. AM Amosu's engagements in Pakistan included a visit to the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) at Kamra, north of Islamabad, where the JF-17 is manufactured.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 8:34am On Dec 03, 2014
patches689:
Training of Nigerian "Ranger" Battalion cancelled before they receive advanced combat training
http://www.enca.com/media/video/nigeria-and-us-diplomatic-row-deepens

Nigerian emotions continue to overcome practical concerns

good thing it's just your usual blind opinion. keep it up.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 8:53am On Dec 03, 2014
SOUTH AFRICAN AIRFORCE ARMAMENTS

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 8:55am On Dec 03, 2014
DONT TELL LIES AND CLAIM EASY VICTORIES

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 9:05am On Dec 03, 2014
stillchris:


good thing it's just your usual blind opinion. keep it up.

Nope, that is literal fact according to a US Embassy press release reported on by ENCA

Your "ranger" battalion completed phases 1 and 2, but will not receive phase 3 which is advanced combat training
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:13am On Dec 03, 2014
WHO DARES WINS....SOUTH AFRICAN DESIGNED AND MANUFACTURED MISSILES

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:17am On Dec 03, 2014
SOUTH AFRICAN AIRFORCE PILOTS

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:19am On Dec 03, 2014
SOUTH AFRICAN ELITE PILOTS

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:21am On Dec 03, 2014
THE BEST OF THE BEST

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:25am On Dec 03, 2014
SOUTH AFRICAN NATIONAL DEFENCE FORCE......ARMAMENTS MADE, DESIGNED AND MANUFACTURED IN BY SOUTH AFRICA

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 10:19am On Dec 03, 2014
patches689:


Nope, that is literal fact according to a US Embassy press release reported on by ENCA

Your "ranger" battalion completed phases 1 and 2, but will not receive phase 3 which is advanced combat training

i believe the boldened i quoted was whatvi referred to.

yes we cancelled it cos the russians offered better training in just one phase.

mind you, aside from the useless propaganda from the US, phase 2 never commenced and this is among the reasons the training was cancelled. Nigerian army does not need to be trained from the scratch, we already have one of the best infantry on the continent.

what we only need is advanced counter terror training which the US claimed they feared would be used on civilians. a gap the Russians and Israelis have filled and will be backed up wiyh weapons supply without the human rights brouhaha.. so tell me why we shouldn't ignore the US since we have already been ignored.

but go ahead, argue about Nigerian issues with a Nigerian. we know that's how you rollgrin.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:36am On Dec 03, 2014
Henry120:
Nigeria is close to signing up for one or two squadrons of JF-17s, according to Pakistani officials. (IHS/Patrick Allen)
The Nigerian Air Force (NAF) is close to finalising an order for the purchase of one or two squadrons of the JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft co-produced by Pakistan and China, a senior Pakistani Ministry of Defence official told IHS Jane's on 2 December.

Speaking at the International Defence Exhibition and Seminar (IDEAS) 2014 in Karachi, the official said the NAF finalised its recommendation for the purchase of 25-40 JF-17s after NAF chief air marshal Adesola Nunayon Amosu visited Pakistan in October. AM Amosu's engagements in Pakistan included a visit to the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) at Kamra, north of Islamabad, where the JF-17 is manufactured.

citation forgotten.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:49am On Dec 03, 2014
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:56am On Dec 03, 2014
Henry120:
http://www.janes.com/article/46579/ideas-2014-nigeria-close-to-signing-up-for-jf-17

Thank you, but why JF-17 and not SU-30s as it was previously professed by @agaugust. JF-17s do not have much stealth capability.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:18am On Dec 03, 2014
stillchris:


i believe the boldened i quoted was whatvi referred to.

yes we cancelled it cos the russians offered better training in just one phase.

mind you, aside from the useless propaganda from the US, phase 2 never commenced and this is among the reasons the training was cancelled. Nigerian army does not need to be trained from the scratch, we already have one of the best infantry on the continent.

what we only need is advanced counter terror training which the US claimed they feared would be used on civilians. a gap the Russians and Israelis have filled and will be backed up wiyh weapons supply without the human rights brouhaha.. so tell me why we shouldn't ignore the US since we have already been ignored.

but go ahead, argue about Nigerian issues with a Nigerian. we know that's how you rollgrin.


Nigerians are of unknown training and are no where near the best in the continent, confirmed by the fact that your men had to be trained from scratch

Russian training is inferior to Western Training

Your emotional nature has cost you an opportunity you will never again receive
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:23am On Dec 03, 2014
mzilakazi:


Thank you, but why JF-17 and not SU-30s as it was previously professed by @agaugust. JF-17s do not have much stealth capability.

Because the JF-17 is cheap

That is all, its a sub-par air-frame with sub-par capabilities and sub-par armament and - like everything the Chinese touch - absolutely terrible performance, literally dog-disguising performance.

There is a reason people call it the Junk Fighter-17
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:40am On Dec 03, 2014
patches689:


Only in failed states can large bodies of terrorists move around with impunity.


Only in states with high Islamic population can large bodies of terrorists move around with impunity.

Canada has about 700 thousand Islamic faithfuls, Nigeria has about 90 million !

Kenya just suffered terrorist attack again yesterday, and Kenya is a Christian country.

South Africa CANNOT stop Rhino poachers and Pretoria is begging Bostwana to help your nation protect Rhinos by hiding them in Botswana.

If terrorists invade South Africa, your government will export millions of South Africans INCLUDING you @Patches into safety in Bostwana
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:43am On Dec 03, 2014
agaugust:


No gun and camo for you until you graduate from my physics class and you stop lying that Italy sold ATR-42 with a different radar from what they sold to Nigeria, I need source that clearly says that, not your dreamland imaginations.

Physics? I love it.

That 85 km/h was jointly calculated and agreed by me and South African @Fighter Pilot who has BSc Military Science. LOL cheesy cheesy

Bwahahaaha cheesy cheesy

Your calculator assumed :

1. NO air resistance....your jet fighter was flying in a vacuum with NO air existing in the atmosphere...FOOL !
2. Guided Bomb does not follow guidance system oscillation up and down movement.
3. The Paveway Bomb has less range than normal because of oscillation.
4. Due to number 3 above, the Gripen cannot drop bomb at it's aircraft maximum ceiling.

Guided bomb redirects and corrects position, it jumps up and down if dropped at high altitude, it loses speed each time it climbs up, before slowly coming down and repeats the up-down motion till close to target.

You can NEVER achieve missile speed with a bomb, or else nobody will build an expensive mach 1.2 missile if a bomb can do the same speed

Based on the correct formula for free fall with air resistance, I used the maximum ceiling of Gripen and maximum range of the Paveway Guided Bomb and that means the Gripen must be directly above the target, and i used the weight of the bomb, the calculator proves the final speed will be 61 km/hr.

Your Gripen guided bomb will arrive target at speed of about 61 km/hr. PROVED !

South Africa begged Nigeria to sent Mathematics and Science teachers to your rainbow nation and we did it. Now you know why cheesy cheesy

http://keisan.casio.com/exec/system/1231475371

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Mr Agaugust stop deceiving people with your cheap physics theories. Umbani PGM is not a free fall bomb nor an ordinary guided bomb, it is a precision guided munition that strikes targets with a high speed of a lightning. Thus, the free fall theory does not apply to it. Umbani which means lightning is propelled with a rocket motor and wings to change its directions in accordance with the GPS that guides it to the target. Normally rockets have high speed that is sometimes is not measured by manufacturers.

Moreover, SA has never gone to Nigeria to beg for science teachers. Those teachers descended down to the south at their own accord looking for greener pastures, same as Ghanaians and many other foreign teachers. No wonder our pupils at government schools perform so badly in Maths and Science because they are being taught by just average teachers from Nigeria who were produced from the same rotten system that produced the likes of @agaugust. Nigeria has never impressed at all with their maths and science education, engineering, technology and medicine. SA is way far superior than Nigeria in all the aforesaid fields of study.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by sirjerry(m): 11:46am On Dec 03, 2014
patches689:


Because the JF-17 is cheap

That is all, its a sub-par air-frame with sub-par capabilities and sub-par armament and - like everything the Chinese touch - absolutely terrible performance, literally dog-disguising performance.

There is a reason people call it the Junk Fighter-17

hehehe, patches in pain

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 11:50am On Dec 03, 2014
patches689:



1) Nigerians are of unknown training and are no where near the best in the continent, confirmed by the fact that your men had to be trained from scratch.

2) Russian training is inferior to Western Training

3) Your emotional nature has cost you an opportunity you will never again receive

1) sure, no training, yet carried out successful peace enforcement operations when SA was still struggling for identity.
and we refused to be trained from scratch, we are not the iraqis... period. the police CTU that recently arrived from intensive COIN training from Russia defended damaturu from BH in a blitzkrieg attack (you are aware that's the strategy BH used and it's not easy to defeat expecially in a populated area) before the army and airforce intervened. that's what we need... intensive COIN training from expereineced professionals. i.e russia, israel

2) no need to respond to that seeing as your pro western stance will blind you from an effective debate. so, whatever floats your boat.

3) pray tell what opportunity is that. is it advanced weapons systems we will never get from the west? advanced infantry training on media? please, enlighten us what opportunitiese we have missed mr patches.. since you are the smart one.

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