femi4:
Like Pharaoh, like Judas, God knew pharaoh won't allow the Israelite to leave Egypt. So hardening his heart is like a catalyst to bring into action pharaoh's intentions. Same way Jesus said to Judas:
"That which you want to do, do it quickly"

clevvermind:
ok. no problem. what i want to do is to read every comments here all over again and draw my conclusion on this issue.

clevvermind:
there are billions of people quoting the bible. are they all the gods of men?

adexsimply:
I'm not advocating anything... You're talking about freewill, if god hardened Pharaoh's heart, didn't he tamper with Pharaoh's freewill ?

Precioussilas10:
If that's the case,we are not responsible for our actions...i hope to see the views of others

Truckpusher:
Just the way he has hardened Buhari's heart to contest again after failing thrice.

InvertedHammer:
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At what point will you humans stop trying to figure out what God is thinking?

Can you even decipher what a human being is thinking?
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BabaGnoni:

Sure, of course and like I previously said, now that it's on FP and after an awful lot has been said, let's know if you are any the wiser
meanwhile, I'll be here, sitting down crossed leg, dey await your version, your explanation(s)
and/or answer(s) to HOW did God harden Pharoah's heart?

clevvermind:
always support your points with scriptures.

clevvermind:
he will be destroyed like Pharaoh.

clevvermind:
i have already given my little explanation based on what i understand as to why God hardens pharoah's heart except u didn't saw it. so no need to wait. it should not be a do or die affair. i'm still learning though.

danjumakolo:


When you offend god with impunity .He leaves you enjoying yourself and commiting more sin.God will accept your sincere repentances on the sins u committed against god.

But when it becomes glaring for the sinner that u are gonna die like the case of pharaoh,then god hardens your heart the more even in the face of death

duduhemit36:

i dnt cram vrrses......it a verse...i didnt quote it as it twas written....i sed it in my own way

birdman:
its a mistranslation. In 1 Samuel 6:6, you can see another account.
It was pharoah that hardened his heart.
Translating Hebrew to English often involves concepts that are alien to the culture of the translator,
At such places, you will usually see translators making interpretations based on their cultural biases.
You can see the same when you read up a Yoruba bible for example.

The important thing is that it is dangerous to build theology based on one bible verse.
You need several verses speaking in alignment to do so.
When you see a misaligned verse like
"The LORD hardened pharoah's heart" in exodus, you can usually tell there is translational bias
because this does not jive with the overall character of God portrayed in the bible.

Olufemiolaolu:
Romans 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
4 430 years the Lord has been patient with pharaoh's generation oppression over children of Isreal.
Remember the Lord's mercy over d wicked has an expiring date.

BabaGnoni:

^^^
Patience is my middle name, so I dont mind waiting

Am glad you've admitted and confirmed that its not a do or die affair
I saw your explanation which I said was a rhetoric and dismal WHY

Please read posts carefully, you dont have to be hasty to reply or send responses back

The request I made by the way to you, was about HOW, HOW did God harden Pharoah's heart
and not WHY God hardened Pharoah's heart

Which part or what's contradictory in the post?

Pharaoh was willing and eager to "fight". Yes? No?

But God stepped in holding Pharaoh's heart back from turning hard. Yes? No?

God eventually stepped back and respected Pharaoh's free will to go "fighting"

and his stubbornness to hardening up his soft heart. Yes? No?

God allowed Pharaoh to harden up his heart and this paved way for Pharaoh to "fight". Yes? No?

God was pouring fluid on Pharaoh's heart which kept it from hardening. Yes? No?

- just like one does in keeping a kitchen sponge wet or dripping by pouring water on it
Stop the flow on the sponge or Pharaoh's heart, what will happen?

clevvermind:
the how is that God makes him stubborn by his refusal to release the children of Israel.
God makes him to be obstinate.

Olufemiolaolu:
Back 2 sender. shame on u,fayose relative.

BabaGnoni:

^^^

ROTBL I'll let you off

lolaxavier:


Hmmmm...i see. But he is omnipotent, he could have easily softened pharaoh's heart rather than hardening it... I get it, he only wants to see some action...

BabaGnoni:
^^^

ROTBL I'll let you off

clevvermind:
ok then, bring your view.
how did God hardens pharoah's heart?
question back to you. i want to learn.

adexsimply:
@BabaGnoni
I didn't say it was "contradictory".
You made an illustration of 2 kids A and B about to have a fight, you held kid B who was desperately aching for a fight despite the fact that you've separated them. At the end, you decided to step back and allow kid B to fight. You then assumed you were hardening the heart of kid B by stepping back, meanwhile what you did was allow him to choose to continue the fight or call it quit(Freewill

adexsimply:
Not really.

adexsimply:
No he didn't.

adexsimply:
No he didn't.

adexsimply:

adexsimply:
God didn't allow Pharaoh to harden up his heart, God actually aided the hardening up.

adexsimply:
No

adexsimply:
I don't get.

Hiswordxray:
Yes God can harden people heart but that is not an infringement on our free will. God can only harden the heart of those who had already harden their heart. God knows how weak people are and how they could easily run away from the problem they have put themselves into.
Pharaoh had already harden his heart towards God. And God being a righteous judge wanted to punish him severely but He knows that Pharaoh will easily give in if he sees just a little of God's judgment. So God had to harden his heart so that he could remain and continue in his evil until God had completely avenge His people by giving Pharaoh the fullness of the punishment he deserves.
So God's act of hardening Pharaoh's heart is His way of keeping Pharaoh in the prison until he had sever his time. Pharaoh had to remain in his evil works for God to have enough time to completely pour out His cup of wrath on him.

BabaGnoni:


Which part or what's contradictory in the post?
Pharaoh was willing and eager to "fight". Yes? No?
But God stepped in holding Pharaoh's heart back from turning hard. Yes? No?
God eventually stepped back and respected Pharaoh's free will to go "fighting"
and his stubbornness to hardening up his soft heart. Yes? No?
God allowed Pharaoh to harden up his heart and this paved way for Pharaoh to "fight". Yes? No?

God was pouring fluid on Pharaoh's heart which kept it from hardening. Yes? No?
- just like one does in keeping a kitchen sponge wet or dripping by pouring water on it
Stop the flow on the sponge or Pharaoh's heart, what will happen?

Emmanuel247:
U know my man. U should read the verse again, u will see where God said that he himself will harden his heart..
He purposely hardened his heart for his own purpose. In other words

It was not fluid he was pouring into pharaoh's heart.......... Super glue I guess.

May God forgive me if I have spoken more than I should. Jah Bless