freecocoa:
I honestly don't know what you are talking about with the monitoring and all, I'm telling you something usually very obvious and you are talking about monitoring someone.

This is not about how a group of people decide to live their lives, it is more about how what they claim to believe in has no positive impact on them and if believing in God/going to church, can't make one better(it actually makes them worse) than someone who doesn't believe nor go to church, maybe that means what they claim is actually nonexistent.

Religious people, tend to behave in similar ways(especially as regards discrimination) so you notice that, it is definitely religion, that pushes them to it, because they have to abide by certain doctrines which propagates hate in my opinion, this doctrines now combined with their human traits becomes catastrophic.

Btw, the bible does not really make it easier with the many contradictions in it.

I completely understand the fact that U don't intend to monitor anybody.



But Ur flesh & spirit man naturally monitors Ur spiritual role model to bring influences or effects to Ur life.



its unintentional but U can't avoid it.



My sister to simplify things, let's just walk in the light of Christ oooooo.

I know its not easy.

God will help us.

standd:



Thank you

Tallesty1..kindly read this. Because if I choose to serve buddha tomorrow, I will still refuse to be banished to hell-fire
Maybe Englishiii is disturbing me so I can't get my point across well enough. But I am not going back on my words, love your neighbours as yourself, love the person, not the religion.
Peace!

What if I can prove to you that the idea of being put to hell was invented by humans?


I am a Christian and I don't believe in being to hell fire forever, the filthy ones will pass through fire for purification and refinement but it is temporal.

You can't win this ma.

OLUJOSHINS:




I completely understand the fact that U don't intend to monitor anybody.



But Ur flesh & spirit man naturally monitors Ur spiritual role model to bring influences or effects to Ur life.



its unintentional but U can't avoid it.



My sister to simplify things, let's just walk in the light of Christ oooooo.

I know its not easy.

God will help us.

You seem not to get my point or just chose to ignore it because you can't disprove it, I understand all the same.

standd:


Mehn!!! You need to feel the HATRED oozing out of some people to fully grasp the content of my original post. I just tire, I swear! How I wish there's nothing like religion, maybe people will engage their thinking faculties more.

I have felt it, seen it and almost became a victim but I'm glad the kindness in me is stronger than what religion can cause.

I often tell people, if following and practicing a religion(especially christianity)is the only assurance for some sort of blissful afterlife, then let me be damned.

freecocoa:
You seem not to get my point or just chose to ignore it because you can't disprove it, I understand all the same.

Ur point rally's around the lifestyle of other Christians & like I said before STOP STUDYING THEIR LIFE'S!!!!!!



some are working towards perfection in good faith while others claim to be working towards perfection meanwhile they wallow in sin.


ignore them else U start judging them.



work out Ur own salvation using the Lamb of God as Ur standard.

Nice. The first thing I did when I decided to live right was to be at peace with everyone and love all equally. Now I'm happy that I bear no grudge against anyone. However, I still face the battle to live right everyday. So help me God.

OLUJOSHINS:




Ur point rally's around the lifestyle of other Christians & like I said before STOP STUDYING THEIR LIFE'S!!!!!!



some are working towards perfection in good faith while others claim to be working towards perfection meanwhile they wallow in sin.


ignore them else U start judging them.



work out Ur own salvation using the Lamb of God as Ur standard.

Didn't you see the part of my post about the bible not really helping? Or you mean I become a selective reader?

freecocoa:
Didn't you see the part of my post about the bible not really helping? Or you mean I become a selective reader?

Please explain what U mean by not really helping.

jaybee3:
I just can't understand the statement that christians (pastors) make about the ONLY way to heaven is by accepting Jesus christ as a personal saviour.

Why would God have us reach almost 8 billion then send about 75% to hell fire. Makes no sense whatsoever

Don't ask questions, just do as you are told.

OLUJOSHINS:




Please explain what U mean by not really helping.

Too many inconsistencies.

neoapocalypse:


Guess who's living in denial

This is a good tihey and I am not ready to derail it because of some self-righteous school boy.

freecocoa:
I have felt it, seen it and almost became a victim but I'm glad the kindness in me is stronger than what religion can cause.

I often tell people, if following and practicing a religion(especially christianity)is the only assurance for some sort of blissful afterlife, then let me be damned.

Gbam!!

freecocoa:
Too many inconsistencies.

EXPLAIN.

sight instances, give examples.

OLUJOSHINS:




EXPLAIN.

sight instances, give examples.

Wow, you really wanna do this alright then.

Exodus 15 vs 3.
The lord is a man of war
The lord is his name.

Romans 15 vs 33
Now the God of peace be with you all, amen.

Psalm 145 vs 9
The lord is good to all and his tender
mercies are all over his works.

JER 13 vs 14
And I will dash them one against another,even the fathers and the sons together, saith the lord, I will not pity nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them all.

John 10 vs 30
I am my father are one.

John 14 vs 28.
Ye have heard how I said unto you
I go away and come again unto you.
If ye loved me, ye would rejoice because I said, I go unto the father for my father is greater than I

PRO 26 vs 4
Answer not a f00l according to his folly
Lest thou also be like unto him.

PRO 26 vs 5
Answer a f00l according to his folly
Lest he be wise in his own conceit.

Would you like more?

There are just so many contradicting stories and info that I can't start posting here(cant type that long) I can however, share where they can be found in the bible.

Misogynist2014:
Spare yourself headache and test your religion. I've done that to mine and have found it true. www.wikiislam.net
www.answeringislam.org Remember, a man with no religion is better than that with false religion. Isn't it the same Bible that said: Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
You don't have to be scared.

What give you that assurance that I will change my religion for another religion?

And For goodness sake. Stop being self-righteous. I do not dabble into ‘My religion is better than yours' argument.

I wonder what whomever wrote this hopes to achieve with it. Is it an indirect criticism or what?

True christians ARE NOT cocky (wonder where the writer got the idea). They dont think they are better than anyone. On the contrary, they are the lowliest (humble) people u can ever meet. Cause they know that whatever they do is by GRACE of God, not by might - Zechariah 4:6, Ephesians 2:8.

Cocky? We are not the ones that go about killing people and converting them by force because they are "infidels". If the christians you know seem to be cocky, well, just know that there's always been counterfeits to everything since whenever.

There are some beliefs that are peculiar to christians. Well, that's the way they are. They are our beliefs. Don't judge us cos of them. Afterall Hinduism, taoism, budhism, shintoism and all the other 'isms' have their own peculiar beliefs, unique to them - even atheists.

Masterclass32:
I wonder what whomever wrote this hopes to achieve with it. Is it an indirect criticism or what?

True christians ARE NOT cocky (wonder where the writer got the idea). They dont think they are better than anyone. On the contrary, they are the lowliest (humble) people u can ever meet. Cause they know that whatever they do is by GRACE of God, not by might - Zechariah 4:6, Ephesians 2:8.

Cocky? We are not the ones that go about killing people and converting them by force because they are "infidels". If the christians you know seem to be cocky, well, just know that there's always been counterfeits to everything since whenever.

There are some beliefs that are peculiar to christians. Well, that's the way they are. They are our beliefs. Don't judge us cos of them. Afterall Hinduism, taoism, budhism, shintoism and all the other 'isms' have their own peculiar beliefs, unique to them - even atheists.

What peculiar beliefs do atheists hold?

Masterclass32:
I wonder what whomever wrote this hopes to achieve with it. Is it an indirect criticism or what?

True christians ARE NOT cocky (wonder where the writer got the idea). They dont think they are better than anyone. On the contrary, they are the lowliest (humble) people u can ever meet. Cause they know that whatever they do is by GRACE of God, not by might - Zechariah 4:6, Ephesians 2:8.

Cocky? We are not the ones that go about killing people and converting them by force because they are "infidels". If the christians you know seem to be cocky, well, just know that there's always been counterfeits to everything since whenever.

There are some beliefs that are peculiar to christians. Well, that's the way they are. They are our beliefs. Don't judge us cos of them. Afterall Hinduism, taoism, budhism, shintoism and all the other 'isms' have their own peculiar beliefs, unique to them - even atheists.

The write-up is centered on religion not necessarily christianity and Islam, she elaborated on these two because of her experiences with them.

neoapocalypse:


Crack is good , no religion is specifically against it

Crack was developed in the 80's. Religions started before that.

freecocoa:
Wow, you really wanna do this alright then.

Exodus 15 vs 3.
The lord is a man of war
The lord is his name.

Romans 15 vs 33
Now the God of peace be with you all, amen.

Psalm 145 vs 9
The lord is good to all and his tender
mercies are all over his works.

JER 13 vs 14
And I will dash them one against another,even the fathers and the sons together, saith the lord, I will not pity nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them all.

John 10 vs 30
I am my father are one.

John 14 vs 28.
Ye have heard how I said unto you
I go away and come again unto you.
If ye loved me, ye would rejoice because I said, I go unto the father for my father is greater than I

PRO 26 vs 4
Answer not a f00l according to his folly
Lest thou also be like unto him.

PRO 26 vs 5
Answer a f00l according to his folly
Lest he be wise in his own conceit.

Would you like more?

There are just so many contradicting stories and info that I can't start posting here(cant type that long) I can however, share where they can be found in the bible.

1) He is a consuming g Fire & a merciful dove, this explains the 1st to 4th quotations. He is good to those that obey His commandments.
He allowed evil to happen to people that disobeyed His commandments. Some times He brought His wrath upon these people by Himself like in the fourth quotation.



2) U understand the concept of the Trinity. right? this explains the fifth quotation.

3) the 2nd coming & the concept of Trinity explains the 6th.


4) The book of proverbs can be complicated to the human mind, but a deep scrutiny completely explains it.
The words of a f00l should be ignored when discussing important issues else all wise men involved in the discussion begin to sound f0 0li sh.
A f00l only understand f0 0li sh ness. when discussing with Him, don't go beyond His reasoning else He call U f0 0li sh & call Himself wise.



God gave U the spirit to discern between good & evil.
He also gave U the spirit to understand His word hence the knowledge & conviction U have when U read the word.

I know U understand the Bible Sis. I'm 100% sure U do. walk in the light of the understanding God has given U about His word.

Justfollowit:


This is a good tihey and I am not ready to derail it because of some self-righteous school boy.

I ain't too good in Spanglish dear

OLUJOSHINS:




EXPLAIN.

sight instances, give examples.

Mark 9 : 1

neoapocalypse:


I ain't too good in Spanglish dear

This is a good thread. Continue from there

All I see on this thread is people struggling to wake up from the deathly nightmarish sleep of religion, and of mental bondage. You all will wake up very soon, very very soon, sooner than you expect, perhaps this month, I hope, I pray.

It is everyman in his own order. Christ woke up first, then those that are Christ's at His coming.

OLUJOSHINS:




1) He is a consuming g Fire & a merciful dove, this explains the 1st to 4th quotations. He is good to those that obey His commandments.
He allowed evil to happen to people that disobeyed His commandments. Some times He brought His wrath upon these people by Himself like in the fourth quotation.



2) U understand the concept of the Trinity. right? this explains the fifth quotation.

3) the 2nd coming & the concept of Trinity explains the 6th.


4) The book of proverbs can be complicated to the human mind, but a deep scrutiny completely explains it.
The words of a f00l should be ignored when discussing important issues else all wise men involved in the discussion begin to sound f0 0li sh.
A f00l only understand f0 0li sh ness. when discussing with Him, don't go beyond His reasoning else He call U f0 0li sh & call Himself wise.



God gave U the spirit to discern between good & evil.
He also gave U the spirit to understand His word hence the knowledge & conviction U have when U read the word.

I know U understand the Bible Sis. I'm 100% sure U do. walk in the light of the understanding God has given U about His word.

1. Yea well, we should then agree that he isn't the God of ALL after all (emphasis on All because that's what's in the bible),he is only kind to people who obey his word and you actually know that the bible is his word, how? What about the people of other religions that don't use the bible? Many of whom practice such religions because that's what they were born into, what becomes of them?

2. I don't see what trinity has to do with it, it's simple and plain English, it's either you are something or you are not.

3. I didn't see where it said "important discussions" or when to select how to reply a f00l.

Actually I understand that the people who wrote the bible seem to be very confused, hence the many contradictions, the funny thing is that, just like you, christians claim there's a deeper meaning than what one sees in the bible, so they give it any meaning suitable to them, studying the bible only further tells me I shouldn't.

OP, you blew mind with your piece. Very nicely written. OAM4J, thanks for sharing.

Seun:
You should be an atheist, not a Christian. That is the final destination, but it requires courage. Do you have courage?

I thought atheists do not proselytize?! What do you call this then?!

naijababe:


I thought atheists do not proselytize?! What do you call this then?!

Effrybody need member.

What do you call atheist terrorists sef

Tallesty1:
What if I can prove to you that the idea of being put to hell was invented by humans?


I am a Christian and I don't believe in being to hell fire forever, the filthy ones will pass through fire for purification and refinement but it is temporal.

You can't win this ma.

There is hell and sinners will be there forever...

Revelations 20:10-15

10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

The Judgment of the Dead

11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.

13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done.

14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

Interesting. We're all on our own journeys..

*Followed.

bukatyne:


There is hell and sinners will be there forever...

Revelations 20:10-15

10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

The Judgment of the Dead

11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.

13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done.

14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

Chai!! (Puts both hands on top of head). There is absolutely zero hope for Africans. You just pick a book and begin to conclude that you now know what happens after death. The same book that has ALREADY LIED finish. What is the point of having a brain if you're not going to use it?

naijababe:
OP, you blew mind with your piece. Very nicely written. OAM4J, thanks for sharing.

Really a nice piece worth sharing.

The world will be a more peaceful place if we have less hypocrites and holier than thou people, who despite their claims, one cannot sleep with 2 eyes closed around them.