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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Nobody: 10:37am On May 19, 2015
Why Why Why embarassed cry. I have been shedding tears sine i read ur post.I am also TTCing so i know how it feel,its a burden enough on one, couple with dis recent development. Wipe your tears sis,its well. How can u conceive when an abomination is taking place in your matrimonial home. May God see u through dear,am really saddened about what is happening to you. I pray God in His infinite mercy comfort u and make u smile again. *Hugs*
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Nobody: 10:49am On May 19, 2015
Janet101:
@westendel
Good morning, how was ur nite ,I hope u slept grin?stay strong.we love u.

Jane dear,am good.couldn't sleep well. Am more confused now than b4, these two people have vehemently refused to say the truth. He said he only lusted after her but never slept with her.my sister said d same thing,while there watsapp chats is saying a different thing.

who and what should I believe?
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by olu4life(m): 10:54am On May 19, 2015
Westendel:


Jane dear,am good.couldn't sleep well. Am more confused now than b4, these two people have vehemently refused to say the truth. He said he only lusted after her but never slept with her.my sister said d same thing,while there watsapp chats is saying a different thing.

who and what should I believe?
Had to modify my post

Well, it means d chat wasnt concrete enough neither was it implicating them. Whatever rocks ur boat madam, but know if u divorce at dis period, be ready for huge blackmail from relatives since they didnt see anything but mere allegations.

The only advise left is to sort God on this matter. Put Him at the centre of ur home And see d way things turn out
But seriously why do most women/ladies here advocate for divorce Its pathetic and annoying.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Nobody: 10:55am On May 19, 2015
I knew that family meeting was a very bad idea.

You should have followed babyosisi's advice step by step.

Did you think they would own up in that kind of confrontational meeting?

Now, its their word against yours, and believe you me, it's going to be much more difficult getting to the root of this issue.

Hopefully, you will come out stronger in the end. . .

Goodluck.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Nobody: 11:05am On May 19, 2015
Westendel:

Jane dear,am good.couldn't sleep well. Am more confused now than b4, these two people have vehemently refused to say the truth. He said he only lusted after her but never slept with her.my sister said d same thing,while there watsapp chats is saying a different thing.
who and what should I believe?
Kai you ruined it, the reason you were warned not be hasty. It may take eternity before you will catch them again. Especially with low esteem women urging you around here it wont be long before you apologise to your husband and sis. If not for the chat he wouldnt not have even confessed lust (where are the men saying the sis seduced him). They will be smarter than you can imagine now, i still believe your husband made your sis the way she is.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Janet101(f): 11:29am On May 19, 2015
Westendel:


Jane dear,am good.couldn't sleep well. Am more confused now than b4, these two people have vehemently refused to say the truth. He said he only lusted after her but never slept with her.my sister said d same thing,while there watsapp chats is saying a different thing.

who and what should I believe?



Sorry dear,don't worry time will take care of everything, make sure u throw ur sister out. She is nt helping out,just calm Down pray n trust in God.
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Joel3(m): 11:31am On May 19, 2015
Westendel:
my people we just finish the meeting.A lot has happened, a lot has been said, I don't know whom to believe again. Even with the evidence is now there words against mine.

what a world!!!!
I believe you have been shamed cause there are still not enough evidence that they did it. better caught them red handed. what more can I say
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Bibol(f): 11:32am On May 19, 2015
I'm so sorry about what you are going through but if I may ask, what exactly was the content of the chat that aroused suspicion?

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Nobody: 11:36am On May 19, 2015
Bibol:
I'm so sorry about what you are going through but if I may ask, what exactly was the content of the chat that aroused suspicion?
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Joel3(m): 11:39am On May 19, 2015
Bibol:
I'm so sorry about what you are going through but if I may ask, what exactly was the content of the chat that aroused suspicion?
by the way. what was the chat all about.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Nobody: 11:42am On May 19, 2015
NairaMode:
Every other thing will fall into place soon.

No decision is actually wrong in this situation. You have to make the best decision you can live with.

Life is so worthless. Its nothing and this experience just seal my belief that life is so short yet full of troubles, ache, lies, betrayal, sin and the moments of happiness are usually so little.

THE BEST ADVICE AT THIS TIME IS TO SEPARATE FROM YOUR HUSBAND FOR AS LONG AS YOU CAN TO THINK THROUGH THIS AFTER THE MEETING TOMORROW. YOU NEED TO STAY AWAY.

No one is perfect anyway. You arent as well and this could have been you.

Im not saying stay in the marriage nor divorce him but you NEED TO SEPARATE FOR AS LONG AS YOU CAN TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE.

Good luck.

So true. . .
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by coogar: 11:54am On May 19, 2015
Westendel:


Jane dear,am good.couldn't sleep well. Am more confused now than b4, these two people have vehemently refused to say the truth. He said he only lusted after her but never slept with her.my sister said d same thing,while there watsapp chats is saying a different thing.

who and what should I believe?

your sister lured your hubby.
your sister wants sex & your hubby is desperate for a child. your hubby didn't do it for sex. he did it cos he wanted a child. i still don't understand what your confusion is. a desperate man looking for a child met a young promiscuous woman - it's an ideal scenario for a marital affair.
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Nobody: 12:00pm On May 19, 2015
Bibol:
I'm so sorry about what you are going through but if I may ask, what exactly was the content of the chat that aroused suspicion?

I would have uploaded their watsapp chats here but because I don't want expose his identity, I would rather tell us the content here.

my sister: why don't you wanna send me the 10,000naira?

my husband: I asked you to come over u refused

my sister: I want us to stop this sex of a thing. I feel bad doing dis with you,knowing well that you are my brother in law

my husband: is better I do it with you,than doing it with an asider.what's wrong if you have a child for your sister?


let me stop here don't want to any further. people, what do you make of this conversation?
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by mikeywise(m): 12:02pm On May 19, 2015
Westendel:


I would have uploaded their watsapp chats here but because I don't want expose his identity, I would rather tell us the content here.

my sister: why don't you wanna send me the 10,000naira?

my husband: I asked you to come over u refused

my sister: I want us to stop this sex of a thing. I feel bad doing dis with you,knowing well that you are my brother in law

my husband: is better I do it with you,than doing it with an asider.

let me stop here don't want to any further. people, what do you make of this conversation?
WHAT OTHER PROOF DOES ONE NEED? The chat speaks for itself.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Bibol(f): 12:18pm On May 19, 2015
Westendel:


I would have uploaded their watsapp chats here but because I don't want expose his identity, I would rather tell us the content here.

my sister: why don't you wanna send me the 10,000naira?

my husband: I asked you to come over u refused

my sister: I want us to stop this sex of a thing. I feel bad doing dis with you,knowing well that you are my brother in law

my husband: is better I do it with you,than doing it with an asider.what's wrong if you have a child for your sister?


let me stop here don't want to any further. people, what do you make of this conversation?

Omg!!! That your husband even thinks its ideal for your sister to have a child for him is just so lipsrsealed

This is raw evidence here

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by FynBabe(f): 12:21pm On May 19, 2015
Pls ma, did you show the elders this chat at all? And yet, they see nothing wrong in it? The truth is, no one will ever openly tell you to get a divorce. That's what I have come to realise over the years. You wear the shoe, you alone knows where it pinches. The evidence is so clear. You no sabi act drama? Pretend that you have left your husband for your sister to marry and start moving your things out and watch them both do true confession. You are too smesme for my liking jare.
Westendel:


I would have uploaded their watsapp chats here but because I don't want expose his identity, I would rather tell us the content here.

my sister: why don't you wanna send me the 10,000naira?

my husband: I asked you to come over u refused

my sister: I want us to stop this sex of a thing. I feel bad doing dis with you,knowing well that you are my brother in law

my husband: is better I do it with you,than doing it with an asider.what's wrong if you have a child for your sister?


let me stop here don't want to any further. people, what do you make of this conversation?

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by edwife(f): 12:29pm On May 19, 2015
You were given a sensible advice yet you went ahead to call for a family meeting undecided

Your blood is too hot,you were the one with the advantage here,why didn't you travel alone to the village and talk to your sister?

Your husband wants a child and he is using your sister,on the other hand your sister is after financial favours.

Well it is out there already,it's up to you on what you decide to do onwards,it's either you forgive or leave him.
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Nobody: 12:33pm On May 19, 2015
Westendel:


I would have uploaded their watsapp chats here but because I don't want expose his identity, I would rather tell us the content here.

my sister: why don't you wanna send me the 10,000naira?

my husband: I asked you to come over u refused

my sister: I want us to stop this sex of a thing. I feel bad doing dis with you,knowing well that you are my brother in law

my husband: is better I do it with you,than doing it with an asider.what's wrong if you have a child for your sister?


let me stop here don't want to any further. people, what do you make of this conversation?

Lord, please bless this woman same way you blessed me. You alone said there shall be none barren on the land. Show yourself strong in her situation and make her have the last laugh.

It is well. . . cry cry

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Nobody: 12:50pm On May 19, 2015
shocked shocked shocked Osanobua eh!!! Wonders shall never end. Chei my sister i wish you were living in the east i would have asked to see you. Even if its a place to stay for the time being, i wouldn't mind helping. You need someone to Console you at this difficult period. This betrayal is too much. Op do you have a friend you can stay with for the time being? You shouldn't be going through this alone. Was your mum at the meeting? What is she saying about this?
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by olu4life(m): 12:53pm On May 19, 2015
with that chat?! Lobatan!!! Its clear he is highly desperate for a child. Well, me I go mute for this level. All I know is that i've witnessed worst cases than this. Lemme tell a short one.

A couple has been married for close to 20yrs with no child only for the man to impregnate a church member. Plus this man happens to be a Pastor o. The wife learnt of it after the lady gave birth. Hell was let loose. She was about moving out and clearly confused just as u were. After much advise and consultation from family and friends, the wife took in the baby but NEVER took in the lady. The hubby agreed to the decision. Now from the way I looked at the case, the hubby have always had concern for the woman from the onset. And after the whole drama, he was very remorseful which made the woman think again. They are living happily now and no form of issue except trivial stuff.

Point is, its yet to get to that stage in ur own palava, thank God u discovered on time.

Now my question to u OP, how much does ur hubby love u?
Is he remorseful over the act?
Has he apologised despite all what had happened to u?
I know its been few hours after the family meeting buut what move has ur hubby made?
If all the answers to my questions above is negative, then move on but if positive, my dear I know u are so angry and all, give him some space for possibly weeks to fully recover then take ur judgement. DONT DARE MAKE A MOVE WHEN U ARE ANGRY. We all know the consequence of that. Ponder on these have said. Thank u

As for ur sister, I care less about her. She should pack her bags and leave the house. Simple!!!
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Nobody: 1:11pm On May 19, 2015
olu4life:
with that chat?! Lobatan!!! Its clear he is highly desperate for a child. Well, me I go mute for this level. All I know is that i've witnessed worst cases than this. Lemme tell a short one.

A couple has been married for close to 20yrs with no child only for the man to impregnate a church member. Plus this man happens to be a Pastor o. The wife learnt of it after the lady gave birth. Hell was let loose. She was about moving out and clearly confused just as u were. After much advise and consultation from family and friends, the wife took in the baby but NEVER took in the lady. The hubby agreed to the decision. Now from the way I looked at the case, the hubby have always had concern for the woman from the onset. And after the whole drama, he was very remorseful which made the woman think again. They are living happily now and no form of issue except trivial stuff.

And you know this how?

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by MarineOne: 1:16pm On May 19, 2015
Westendel:
my people we just finish the meeting.A lot has happened, a lot has been said, I don't know whom to believe again. Even with the evidence is now there words against mine.

what a world!!!!

Please fight for your home. It will take time but fight for you home. You need a lot of calmness at this time. You must be ready to forgive and be wise in dealing with hubby

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by olu4life(m): 1:16pm On May 19, 2015
Phema:


And you know this how?

100% Its not story of someone told me or someone distant. Its over 4yrs it happened

MarineOne:

Please fight for your home. It will take time but fight for you home. You need a lot of calmness at this time. You must be ready to forgive and be wise in dealing with hubby
#GBAM... How can fellow women be advising divorce at this stage. Do u expect marriage to be a fairy tale? Expecting everything to go smoothly? Whats happens to conquering the storm? So even if the husband cheated, and so f***ing what! Next is divorce?

OP ask these women advising u if they have not had close experience in theirs before. Some will just be vocal online, meanwhile they are like slaves in their home only trying to console themselves. Enough of the hypocrisy in this section. U better dont let faceless entities ruin ur marriage. Check deep within u, u know the prompt response but just waiting for advise to suit urself. Sorry for been harsh but truth be told, u need tto takee charge of ur home. Divorce is only allowed when all trials is in vain. So if u leave ur house, what next? Remarry? And face same Challenge?! Woman get up, dust urself and TAKE CONTROL OF UR ZONE

And if any of u so called advisers feel insulted, feel free to lace the shoe.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by MarineOne: 1:19pm On May 19, 2015
olu4life:
with that chat?! Lobatan!!! Its clear he is highly desperate for a child. Well, me I go mute for this level. All I know is that i've witnessed worst cases than this. Lemme tell a short one.

A couple has been married for close to 20yrs with no child only for the man to impregnate a church member. Plus this man happens to be a Pastor o. The wife learnt of it after the lady gave birth. Hell was let loose. She was about moving out and clearly confused just as u were. After much advise and consultation from family and friends, the wife took in the baby but NEVER took in the lady. The hubby agreed to the decision. Now from the way I looked at the case, the hubby have always had concern for the woman from the onset. And after the whole drama, he was very remorseful which made the woman think again. They are living happily now and no form of issue except trivial stuff.

Point is, its yet to get to that stage in ur own palava, thank God u discovered on time.

Now my question to u OP, how much does ur hubby love u?
Is he remorseful over the act?
Has he apologised despite all what had happened to u?
I know its been few hours after the family meeting buut what move has ur hubby made?
If all the answers to my questions above is negative, then move on but if positive, my dear I know u are so angry and all, give him some space for possibly weeks to fully recover then take ur judgement. DONT DARE MAKE A MOVE WHEN U ARE ANGRY. We all know the consequence of that. Ponder on these have said. Thank u

As for ur sister, I care less about her. She should pack her bags and leave the house. Simple!!!

My dear brother I share same opinion with you.
I pray God will lead,comfort and be with our sister in this moment of trial.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Nobody: 1:27pm On May 19, 2015
olu4life:
100% Its not story of someone told me or someone distant. Its over 4yrs it happened

All you can say is "they look happy" as only the couple know if they are really happy or not.

For all you know, it might just be a case of "the more you look, the less you see".

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by successinlife: 1:33pm On May 19, 2015
successinlife:
What is the truth?can we face reality?

In as much as it is very hard,this type of thing happens day in day out in this our modern world.it should be under 5% of divorced women that will find it possible to remarry.Hey,there is no saint these days men and women alike.If people tell you to divorce will they provide an angel of a man? Sincerely speaking,it might be a test for your breakthrough,what is if divorce is what the enemy want for either of the couples?
My take on this issue is prudence and God's direction.Someone can make mistake today and be good tomorrow and likewise somebody can be good today and be bad tomorrow.God direction is the best way forward.Let the situation die a natural death,don't insist to find out the truth in a hurry cause it may be hard instead take it gently with your man,i tell you if you want to tame or make your man to confess you can do it.God has given the women powers with diligence to unearth the very truth from men's mouth.You will laugh at the end no need to put yourself in a bad state. Cheers

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by olu4life(m): 1:34pm On May 19, 2015
Phema:


All you can say is "they look happy" as only the couple know if they are really happy or not.

For all you know, it might just be a case of "the more you look, the less you see".
Dear, we all dont have same grace of forgiven people. Some might not be able to forgive and forget but some actually do. Lemme quote dis proverb "No matter how much one hide a smoke, it will still find its way out". Its easier to fish out one that is pretending to act as if all is well. And like I said, its over 4years, that should be enough clarity to know she has gotten over it cos of her kind of person that I know very well. Surely it wont be easy at first but not her first time adopting children.

Lets not derail the thread, hope u get d drift?
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by successinlife: 1:36pm On May 19, 2015
successinlife:
Hello my Sister,

The situation you are calls for divine intervention. My advise is that you go on your knees and cry to God to lead you. Return to your husband house after work,do not ask any of the two any question. Talk to your sister and your husband,prepare food and behave normal.

1. Watch events as it will unfold in front of you.

2. There is nothing anybody will tell you that will replace your sister and your husband for now.

3. I know your husband & sister will either brake down or be arrogant.

The real decision will come in the night, let your sister be asleep and tell your husband you have reported the case at the Police station,that you inform the authorities to hold both of them responsible should anything happen to you. Then be confident enough to tell him this. '' with the love i have shown you. With all my sacrifice to keep out marriage as a born again christian.Why did you submit yourself to the devil?

Tell us what he will vomit as explanation tomorrow.

Note- No human being is God to judge this case.May God see you through. (amen)
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Nobody: 1:41pm On May 19, 2015
olu4life:

Dear, we all dont have same grace of forgiven people. Some might not be able to forgive and forget but some actually do. Lemme quote dis proverb "No matter how much one hide a smoke, it will still find its way out". Its easier to fish out one that is pretending to act as if all is well. And like I said, its over 4years, that should be enough clarity to know she has gotten over it cos of her kind of person that I know very well. Surely it wont be easy at first but not her first time adopting children.

Lets not derail the thread, hope u get d drift?

Trust me, people can pretend for a very long time, especially married women who want to "shame their enemies" by feigning marital happiness/fulfilment. . .

It's all good. . .Let's not derail smiley

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Kimoni: 1:49pm On May 19, 2015
olu4life:


100% Its not story of someone told me or someone distant. Its over 4yrs it happened


#GBAM... How can fellow women be advising divorce at this stage. Do u expect marriage to be a fairy tale? Expecting everything to go smoothly? Whats happens to conquering the storm? So even if the husband cheated, and so f***ing what! Next is divorce?

OP ask these women advising u if they have not had close experience in theirs before. Some will just be vocal online, meanwhile they are like slaves in their home only trying to console themselves. Enough of the hypocrisy in this section. U better dont let faceless entities ruin ur marriage. Check deep within u, u know the prompt response but just waiting for advise to suit urself. Sorry for been harsh but truth be told, u need tto takee charge of ur home. Divorce is only allowed when all trials is in vain. So if u leave ur house, what next? Remarry? And face same Challenge?! Woman get up, dust urself and TAKE CONTROL OF UR ZONE

And if any of u so called advisers feel insulted, feel free to lace the shoe.

Olu, can I ask you 2 simple questions.

Are you married?

If your wife whom you love and trust so much cheated on you severally with your own blood brother, what will you do? Fight for her love all over again?

Sincerely, answer these questions.


There is a thread that got to FP yesterday where the guy said he forgave his wife for cheating on him for 5 years with a younger person and I did not find one guy that supported this act, instead, they were all insulting him for daring to forgive a cheating wife. And a lady that "mistakenly" asked if he truly saw the chats proving the infidelity got dragged all over the thread.

Now, back to the question, why should forgiveness only lie with the woman and never with the man? Because women don't get hurt or they probably don't have blood flowing in their veins

Only a man is allowed to start divorce proceedings? But with a woman, it's a taboo??

And any woman advising it must be a hypocrite?? But when men advise divorce to a cheating partner, it's okay?

Please show me exactly where the hypocrisy is coming from.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Nobody: 1:54pm On May 19, 2015
Westendel:


Jane dear,am good.couldn't sleep well. Am more confused now than b4, these two people have vehemently refused to say the truth. He said he only lusted after her but never slept with her.my sister said d same thing,while there watsapp chats is saying a different thing.

who and what should I believe?

You came out asking for advice,people gave you advice but you already had a plan what to do
Why did we bother?
Are you so naive not to know that they would flatly deny this in the setting you proposed
How many men will admit to an affair if not caught red handed?
Now your heart is in little bits abi?they are fucking each other constantly to conceive and looked you in the face and denied it
I warned you that without closure,you will be miserable
The chats are before you,you already know what the truth is and what to believe
If you go back to that foolish man,you are also a fool,sorry I had to go there
My final advice is for you to go do an HIV test and test for other sexually transmitted diseases today ,stop sleeping with him and repeat the tests in 6 months to be cleared.
It's obvious the sex was without protection and there could be other people trying to conceive for him too.your sister is already a public toilet so anytime you slept with your husband you are also partaking in wherever she has been.that should scare you more .

But if you like o,you can follow those who want you to contend for your marriage,it's your choice,I am just an anonymous poster ,it's your life.
IMHO,you have no marriage,that much is clear.
I have nothing further to tell you

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by olu4life(m): 1:55pm On May 19, 2015
Kimoni:


Olu, can I ask you 2 simple questions.

Are you married?

If your wife whom you love and trust so much cheated on you severally with your own blood brother, what will you do? Fight for her love all over again?

Sincerely, answer these questions.


There is a thread that got to FP yesterday where the guy said he forgave his wife for cheating on him for 5 years with a younger person and I did not find one guy that supported this act, instead, they were all insulting him for daring to forgive a cheating wife. And a lady that "mistakenly" asked if he truly saw the chats proving the infidelity got dragged all over the thread.

Now, back to the question, why should forgiveness only lie with the woman and never with the man? Because women don't get hurt or they probably don't have blood flowing in their veins

Only a man is allowed to start divorce proceedings? But with a woman, it's a taboo??

And any woman advising it must be a hypocrite?? But when men advise divorce to a cheating partner, it's okay?

Please show me exactly where the hypocrisy is coming from.
I totally get the drift. Yes, we know our society give men more room to cheat and be forgiven than the other way round.

About that particular thread, felt like responding but didnt. And I stated earlier, our level of forgiving differs, wwhat A accepts, B might condemn if in the same shoe.
I also advised the OP to move on if the husband is yet to apologise and be remorseful. NOTHING CAN BE DONE IF THE HUSBAND REFUSES TO ADMIT HIS FAULT. Thats why I assked some questions earlier to the OP.

Hope its now clear on where I stand on this issue?

Lastly, speaking from the man's angle, dont forget the pressure he might be getting about child ish. BUT DOESNT MEAN HE SHOULD GIVE IN TO THE PRESSURE.
Note my words in capital letter.

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