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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 6:06pm On May 26, 2015
patches689:


I keep looking and re-reading your post

I cant find a citation

Care to show me one?

Let me try post the content and hope I won't get banned again, the weblink got me a ban for no reason.

Ukraine deployed old obsolete Mi-24 Hinds in Congo DRC war :

"The armed forces of Ukraine are set to domestically upgrade their Mil Mi-24 Hind attack helicopters, now that country of origin Russia is no longer the biggest friend. Sources within the Defence Industry have provided some details of the upgrading program. Funds will come partly from donations of tens of millions of dollar made by Ukrainian companies and individuals after the country came to a stand-off with Russia when Moscow took control over the Crimea peninsula in March 2014.

The Ukrainian Army officially flies about 46 Mil Mi-24P/V/PM Hind attack helicopters, but the estimated number of aircraft that are actually airworthy is estimated at no more than 20. Three of them serve in Africa painted all white: two support the UN troops in the DR Congo since several months, a third deployed to Liberia on 26 March 2014 to aid the UN forces in that country. That leaves about 17 fully active Hinds at home. We at AIRheads↑Fly believe that now first some of the other 16 of the 46 Hinds will be upgraded to what is unofficially known as the Mi-24PU1 standard – with the U standing for Ukraine of course – to strengthen the front-line forces"
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AfroArab: 6:08pm On May 26, 2015
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 6:16pm On May 26, 2015
Best Army in town !

Nigerian army COIN forces trained in Russia.

Likely part of the new 5,000 troop COIN brigade Nigerian army.

Russia trains 5,000 Nigerian troops yet claims no glory for defeat of Boko Haram. If a PMC that has one South African colonel trains 120 men in your army, they will say they won the whole war for you, that all other 40,000 troops that you have did nothing. LOL.

Hungry for glory, Soweto glory thieves on the loose....beware of daylight robbery by desperadoes with ZERO national war history of success in their own SANDF.....they will claim a PMC with men from different countries is same as South African army. LOL. Thieves.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:46pm On May 26, 2015
AugustineAgain:


You know why I always say you are the duumbest white boy I ever met in recent times? .....because you think like someone who entered university with impersonator/mercenary helping you tpo write your exams.

Nigerian OPVs leaving Simmons town, OPVs....plural, more than one, F-91 is just one ship and the contract terms is that she will be 100% built in China and sail around the world before arriving Nigeria, and that was what happened, so what garbage are you spewing here? Who told you Nigeria will build F91 and tug boat her to Lagos? You drafted and signed that agreement inside your house? Fooool . LOL.

Meanwhile F-92 is still in China at last sighting, except you personally sailed it to your bathroom tub at home. Mumuuuu. LOL
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"You know why I always say you are the duumbest white boy I ever met in recent times?"
Oh really? when did you meet me mate? BTW this is fvcking ironic coming from someone who thinks air is more dens at higher altitude.

Secondly does it matter if it was just one of your OPVs ? I was speaking generally as Henry always likes to say. You said your OPVs were being towed to Lagos, all i did was prove you wrong once again.

agaugust:


First, you need to show us the interior of the ship to proof your fairy tale that the ship is ready to sail. LOL.

You need to prove that all the control room is fully built and prove that the ship is sailing on it's own NOT TUGGED by another ship to Nigeria, prove it, since you are the captain of the F92 ship, and you are in charge of the imaginary control room fully built by you. LOL.

Show us the control room built and ready. LOL....I dare you to show us.


Pic: F91 NOT being towed

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 7:07pm On May 26, 2015
patches689:


Your link is an outdated opinion peice from when the rooivalk was still in development

It holds no weight here
nobody wants the rooivak. Its a failed project just like biro.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:54pm On May 26, 2015
lionel4power:
nobody wants the rooivak. Its a failed project just like biro.
How is Biro a failed project? The Tender process is nearly completed, all that remains is choosing the best offer. As for the Rooivalk....lets just wait 18 months then we can talk again.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:34pm On May 26, 2015
jln115:

"You know why I always say you are the duumbest white boy I ever met in recent times?"
Oh really? when did you meet me mate? BTW this is fvcking ironic coming from someone who thinks air is more dens at higher altitude.

Secondly does it matter if it was just one of your OPVs ? I was speaking generally as Henry always likes to say. You said your OPVs were being towed to Lagos, all i did was prove you wrong once again.



Pic: F91 NOT being towed

When you want to tell lies, please tell your "stand alone" lies, don't try to drag anyone, especially me into it.


You claimed Nigerian Navy OPVs, weren't towed into South-Africa, yet you went ahead to post a Photo of NNS Centenary, where is that of NNS Unity passing through Simmons town?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:36pm On May 26, 2015
lionel4power:
A riddle guys...
What do you get when u re-arrange a french super puma helicopter's component in SA?

Oryx

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:42pm On May 26, 2015
lionel4power:
nobody wants the rooivak. Its a failed project just like biro.

It is obsolete and running computers that 30 years behind anything available today.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 10:45pm On May 26, 2015
jln115:

How is Biro a failed project? The Tender process is nearly completed, all that remains is choosing the best offer. As for the Rooivalk....lets just wait 18 months then we can talk again.
18 months? Whats gonna happen then? Your gonna buy new french subcomponents. Dude we've been waiting for 23 years for biro. Arent u tired of waiting?... ur heroin class is getting old too. Old lady heroine

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:00pm On May 26, 2015
patches689:


And yet the Rooivalk with "30 year old avionics" beat the Apache and Tiger in tbe Turkish bid?

Yeah, think about what you are saying

Patchy, even you cannot be this delusional.

The Turks aren't even using the state of the art avionics of the mangusta A-129, they created and use theirs in the T-129.

Nobody is going to buy your half-french Helicopters, neither would they use avionics that are 30 years behind what is currently available and ancient.

Your AH is obsolete!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:08pm On May 26, 2015
patches689:


Citations please!

I find it ironic

He makes fun of us for the "half french" attack helicopter which is known around the world

When all nigeria can make is an "american" LAV which most people dont know about

and widely rejected for been obsolete with avionics that are 30 years behind anything available today.


The IGIRIGI is known by virtually all African military enthusiasts (Government and Civilian).

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:12pm On May 26, 2015
patches689:


Aaand now he is misquoting the artical

He is just trolling now

It states clearly that your 30 years old avionics only received slight improvements, and the only new thing is the mokopa.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 11:17pm On May 26, 2015
Henry120:


It states clearly that your 30 years old avionics only received slight improvements, and the only new thing is the mokopa.
remind me again is the mokopa now in service or is it just another wet dream
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:52pm On May 26, 2015
lionel4power:
remind me again is the mokopa now in service or is it just another wet dream

It is just another South-African wet dream. It is not even service with the SAAF as the service is too broke to afford any.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 1:00am On May 27, 2015
Henry120:


It is just another South-African wet dream. It is not even service with the SAAF as the service is too broke to afford any.
LOL SA is just one big stinking wet dream filled with white failed ex-colonialist and black Zulu slaves pouring out their collective anger on poor hapless foreigners. They are scared of recolonization (no offence)

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:03am On May 27, 2015
AugustineAgain:


Yes on paper, Broject Biro lives on paper gathering dust for 23 years. LOL

No - the need and a corrisponding project was created 23 years ago

But it was placed on hold when the Navy figured out that they could refit the strike-craft as OPVs
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:04am On May 27, 2015
AugustineAgain:


Your only PGM is a mere bomb, and even a Shilka will s.hoot it down, not to even mention a Roland missile that wastes bombs like Baygon wastes mosquitoes. Your bombs are useless as they get easily b.lown out of the s.ky. LOL
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Its a guided bomb

A shilka wont shoot it down

Its cheaper than ASMs

Roland can be overwhelmed by saturation attack

Starstreak and CRAM can shoot down your ASM
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:07am On May 27, 2015
AugustineAgain:


T-80 is a year 1970s tank. T-84 is called Oplot and is a year 2000s tank.

The guns are different.

The engines are different.

The armour is different.

The country of origin is different.

The manufacturing company is different.

The range and speed are different.

The fire control is different.

T-80 has no anti-missile countermeasures, T-84 has Varta anti-missile counter measures.

T-80 is a 2nd generation tank with ERA armour, T-84 is a 3rd generation tank with PASSIVE armour.

....and the list of differences is endless.

Only a South African whose brain fits at the 2nd bottom level of the world's brain power table, will say that will all the differences, the

T-80 = T-84 tank.

LOL.....I don't blame you all, ya brains really fried in Soweto oil. lol
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M1A1 and M1A2 are both Abrams

Leopard 2A0 and Leopard 2A7 are both leopards

T84 Oplot, T80U, T80M are all T80's

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:07am On May 27, 2015
AugustineAgain:


List the upgrade details and the dates they were made, so we can know how modern the Rooivalk is today 2015
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Why?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:08am On May 27, 2015
AugustineAgain:


Bwhahahaaha. LOL.

Not quite, the report was comparing South African military adventure around Africa with that of Nigeria.

Why did you not use Zimbabwe as your comparison standard? Why use Nigeria's achievement to measure South African performance?

Sure you navy is still weeping cups full of tears about the shame they had to endure when Nigeria commanded South African SAS Drakensberg warship to leave west Africa or be tormented, and your ship was afraid of ordinary Alpha jets.....sailed back to Simons town ASAP ! LOL.
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Still bragging about scaring of a supply ship?

That is the hight of nigerias acheivement - threatening cargo ships
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:09am On May 27, 2015
AugustineAgain:


He is correct, Ukraine used old Hinds in Congo. I posted the citation for him, I don't know why I got banned for it. Ukraine flies Mi-24V and Mi-24P Hinds, they are just planning upgrade for 2014-2015, still trying to raise the money for upgrade from donations.

I am sorry - i still cant see any citations to back your claims

Please point them out
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:10am On May 27, 2015
patches689:

I am sorry - i still cant see any citations to back your claims
Please point them out
AugustineAgain:


Let me try post the content and hope I won't get banned again, the weblink got me a ban for no reason.

Ukraine deployed old obsolete Mi-24 Hinds in Congo DRC war :

"The armed forces of Ukraine are set to domestically upgrade their Mil Mi-24 Hind attack helicopters, now that country of origin Russia is no longer the biggest friend. Sources within the Defence Industry have provided some details of the upgrading program. Funds will come partly from donations of tens of millions of dollar made by Ukrainian companies and individuals after the country came to a stand-off with Russia when Moscow took control over the Crimea peninsula in March 2014.

The Ukrainian Army officially flies about 46 Mil Mi-24P/V/PM Hind attack helicopters, but the estimated number of aircraft that are actually airworthy is estimated at no more than 20. Three of them serve in Africa painted all white: two support the UN troops in the DR Congo since several months, a third deployed to Liberia on 26 March 2014 to aid the UN forces in that country. That leaves about 17 fully active Hinds at home. We at AIRheads↑Fly believe that now first some of the other 16 of the 46 Hinds will be upgraded to what is unofficially known as the Mi-24PU1 standard – with the U standing for Ukraine of course – to strengthen the front-line forces"
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Off topic post

We are talking about indian hinds not ukranian ones

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:11am On May 27, 2015
lionel4power:
nobody wants the rooivak. Its a failed project just like biro.
And yet Biro is nearing completion

We built the Rooivalk for the SAAF, sales are anciliary
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:12am On May 27, 2015
Henry120:


It is obsolete and running computers that 30 years behind anything available today.

Henry-BecauseIsaySo-120 makes another post without citations

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:13am On May 27, 2015
lionel4power:
18 months? Whats gonna happen then? Your gonna buy new french subcomponents. Dude we've been waiting for 23 years for biro. Arent u tired of waiting?... ur heroin class is getting old too. Old lady heroine

Heroine is old?

Are you re.tarded?

Biro is nearing completion - age has nothing to do with it.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:14am On May 27, 2015
Henry120:


Patchy, even you cannot be this delusional.

The Turks aren't even using the state of the art avionics of the mangusta A-129, they created and use theirs in the T-129.

Nobody is going to buy your half-french Helicopters, neither would they use avionics that are 30 years behind what is currently available and ancient.

Your AH is obsolete!

How did the rooivalk with 30 year old co
Components beat the Apache and Tiger in the Turkish trails?

Answer the question
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:16am On May 27, 2015
Henry120:


and widely rejected for been obsolete with avionics that are 30 years behind anything available today.


The IGIRIGI is known by virtually all African military enthusiasts (Government and Civilian).

Ok -

So your citation is an opinion peice written before the Rooivalk project was completed?

And, especially, before the Rooivalk was upgraded?

I ask again - give us factual sources to support your claims

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:16am On May 27, 2015
Henry120:


It states clearly that your 30 years old avionics only received slight improvements, and the only new thing is the mokopa.

Misquoting the artical
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:17am On May 27, 2015
Henry120:


It is just another South-African wet dream. It is not even service with the SAAF as the service is too broke to afford any.

Pictoral evidence shows otherwise
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:18am On May 27, 2015
lionel4power:
LOL SA is just one big stinking wet dream filled with white failed ex-colonialist and black Zulu slaves pouring out their collective anger on poor hapless foreigners. They are scared of recolonization (no offence)

And Nigeria is (factually) a poverty striken (factually) failed state that has seen nothing but dictatorship (fact) and interal strife (fact) since independance
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 2:06am On May 27, 2015
patches689:


And Nigeria is (factually) a poverty striken (factually) failed state that has seen nothing but dictatorship (fact) and interal strife (fact) since independance
1) Nigeria is the largest economy in Africa (fact)
2) Nigerian is the most powerful black nation in the world. (fact)
3) Nigerians are the most happiest people in the world (fact)
4) Nigeria just proved to the world that we have the most matured democracy (fact)
please dont embarass yourself further

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