patches689:


The Egyptian Government has signed an agreement with Germany for the procurement of two Howaldtswerke-Deutche Werft (HDW)-built SSK Manthatisi-class Type-209 submarines
http://www.naval-technology.com/news/newsgermany-deliver-two-type-209-submarines-egypt

Manthatisi class is the class of Type 209 operated by the SAN named after the lead vessel - THE MANTHATISI
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/sskmanthatisi/


South African version of Type 209 is so impressive that even mighty Egypt wants them!!

FYI: No anti-ship missiles on them

patches689:


That is a hind taking off

patches689:


So you completely avoided responding? You running away from comparing what the Nigerian navy has aquired in the same period of time??

Egyptian subs have no harpoons - AND ARE BASED ON OURS

Kilo is inferior to Type 209 - Russian diesel subs are notoriously bad

So much so that Korea and New Zealand turned down FREE ones from Russia

agaugust:


Shilka has 4 barrels and are radar guided to pin point target, even if the target is speeding 1,000 km/h like Hawk jet.

SANDF does NOT have any CRAM anti-missile defence as at today 2015, the project is slowed down by lack of funds, and the target date of 2017 will be further delayed.

SANDF has NO SINGLE CRAM defence today. FACT !

Nigeria has 16 Roland launchers, 2 missiles load each, 8 more missiles inside cabin with rapid automatic reload in 10 seconds.

10 missiles x 16 launchers = 160 missiles.....SAAF will die in seconds
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patches689:



Rotor blades from a helicopter allways provide downwards thrust you jackass.

patches689:


I see that the SAN's foul swoop to aquire an entirely new Naval task force of 4 Frigates, 3 Sub's, 3 Frigate Sized OPV's and 3 IPV's (which can perform de-mining duties) in less than 20 years is causing allot of Nigerian tears.

Henry120:

We feel a great deal of pity for you South-Africans. Flying an obsolete Helicopter, your government cannot afford and has been roundly rejected!!



"Denel COO Jan Wessels outlined the company's thinking to IHS Jane's , saying the process is taking the form of a "two-pronged approach".

The first is focused on the "life extension of the existing Rooivalk Block 1F fleet, dealing with obsolescence and adding some functionalities". Denel, Armscor and the South African Air Force (SAAF) are working to "establish the breadth and depth of the upgrade" that should be undertaken.

While not yet confirmed, this has to include the replacement of old computers. It would also make sense to integrate the Denel Dynamics Mokopa semi-active laser (SAL)-guided missile, which was developed for the Rooivalk, but has not been acquired by the SAAF as yet."



Even IHS Janes confirms the Half-french obsolete Helicopter flies Old/ancient computers.

agaugust:



LOL....LOL...LOL, the ranges are in nautical miles not miles you M0RON.....this guy knows next to nothing about warships !


Nigeria does NOT use Type 056 OPV.....we have P18N OPV.....Show me a source that says Nigeria uses Type 056.

Type 056 frigate = 1,300 tons

P18N OPV = 1,800 tons

Now show us a citation for the range of P18N OPV.....show us citation for the 2,000 nautical miles range.

LOL....you have trapped yourself....LOL.....show us P18N range
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EVarn:
Yeah,tenders as usual,tenders that would see neither contract nor implementation.
HEADLINES 2O50:
DAILY NEWS: SOUTH AFRICAN MARITIME DEFENCE INDUSTRIES SUBMIT TENDERS FOR NEWLY RESUSCICATED PROJECT BIRO
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HEADLINES 2070:
DAILY NEWS: RISE,FALL AND RISE AGAIN OF PROJECT BIRO,SOUTH AFRICAN MARITIME DEFENCE INDUSTRIES SCRAMBLE TO SUBMIT NEW TENDERS
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HEADLINES 2090:
DAILY NEWS: "PROJECT BIRO TO REOPEN BID THIS SUMMER",SOUTH ARICA'S DEFENCE MINISTER CLAIMS
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HEADLINES 2120:
DAILY NEWS: AFTER 120 YEARS AND NUMEROUS BIDDING PROCESSES,PROJECT BIRO AWAITS FULL ACCREDITATION BEFORE YULETIDE
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WORLD HEADLINES 2150: 'PROJECT BIRO' CELEBRATES 150 YEARS AS SOUTH AFRICAN GOVERNMENT KICKSTART FRESH BIDDING PROCESS
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EVarn:
Yeah,tenders as usual,tenders that would see neither contract nor implementation.
HEADLINES 2O50:
DAILY NEWS: SOUTH AFRICAN MARITIME DEFENCE INDUSTRIES SUBMIT TENDERS FOR NEWLY RESUSCICATED PROJECT BIRO
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HEADLINES 2070:
DAILY NEWS: RISE,FALL AND RISE AGAIN OF PROJECT BIRO,SOUTH AFRICAN MARITIME DEFENCE INDUSTRIES SCRAMBLE TO SUBMIT NEW TENDERS
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HEADLINES 2090:
DAILY NEWS: "PROJECT BIRO TO REOPEN BID THIS SUMMER",SOUTH ARICA'S DEFENCE MINISTER CLAIMS
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HEADLINES 2120:
DAILY NEWS: AFTER 120 YEARS AND NUMEROUS BIDDING PROCESSES,PROJECT BIRO AWAITS FULL ACCREDITATION BEFORE YULETIDE
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WORLD HEADLINES 2150: 'PROJECT BIRO' CELEBRATES 150 YEARS AS SOUTH AFRICAN GOVERNMENT KICKSTART FRESH BIDDING PROCESS
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agaugust:


Yes, it's a 450 ton MPV with long range to patrol only near home close to South African coast, it is too small a boat to do OPV work or else high sea storm will sink it with high waves, or the high seas turbulence will make your sailors so sea-sick they will vomit out their intestines.

So, your 4,000 nm range will be used to perambulate around homeland waters while pirates are busy in the high seas robbing and ruling.

Now we see a 450 ton SAN patrol boat that could not dare go to Mozambique channel.....ZERO force projection.....reason for struggling to revive project biro.

Enjoy your 4,000 nm range patrol boat sailing round and round in circles only near home land coast Cape Town . LOL. Toy boat
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agaugust:


Bwhahaha....fear kills Patches.....CITATION NEEDED NOW !
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agaugust:



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OMG, this Patches guy is hilarious?

What is new on that list? 99% of all that stuff has been existing on aircraft about 30 years ago....

VHF and UHF transmission, old school Doppler Radar, FLIR, AM and FM radio....what? What da fvck are you writing on that shiity long list ?

FVCK . LOL.....Fvck !

You have a long garbage list you think will deceive people here? FAIL !

The only modern thing is Top Owl Helmet sight and that is used for the NOE flight.....it failed, the Rooivalk crashed in broad daylight, the sights failed to sight anything o !

FAIL ! Rooivalk is obsolete 30 years technology

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agaugust:


Manually operated? On a modern warship? Citation needed
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lionel4power:
mr dedicate AH name one mission that a dedicated AH can do that an AH cannot do.

patches689:


Warrior class is the primary San patrol asset in the Mozambique channel

You argument has been destroyed with one sentence

agaugust:



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Egypt is buying the new technology Type 209 submarine.

The South African version is now old and inferior.

Egypt is buying 4 submarines of that type, not 2....FOUR Type 209 submarines !

"Two Type 209 submarine as a contract had been signed with Germany in 2011 to build two submarines for the Egyptian navy in a deal worth €920 million that will be armed with Boeing UGM-84 Harpoon Block II missiles and will be delivered in 2016. Egypt will also sign another contract with Germany for two additional Type 209 submarines bringing the total to four.

On 31 August 2012, the Egyptian Navy commander General Osama Ahmed stated that a contract has been signed with the German side to build two type 209 submarines for the Egyptian Navy including the latest technology this type has reached. The first vessel is scheduled to be delivered in 2016. Egypt is planning to exercise an option of the contract for another two type 209 submarines"


http://dmilt.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9220:egypt-mod-intends-to-procurer-two-more-type-209-subs&catid=36:africa&Itemid=55

You see why we say ALL South Africans are liars, even when you see open truth, you want to kill it !
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lionel4power:
Number of countries that has operated the Mi-24 helicopter
answer=68 countries

number of countries that has operated the half-french rooivalk
answer=none except SA

agaugust:


Citations needed for the above lies
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agaugust:


Show us the dust blowing if the NAF Hind is taking off.....or the desert dust is frozen like ice ?

agaugust:


Even if your navy robs a bank, they won't have enough money to buy one stealth OPV, talk less of that dream list above
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agaugust:



Final Slaughter, we killed Rooivalk fat turkey to roast for dinner in Abuja .

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patches689:


You are particularly dense today

agaugust:



Final Slaughter, we killed Rooivalk fat turkey to roast for dinner in Abuja .

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lionel4power:
whoa you eat south africans for breakfast. Lemme get my 3D glass and watch dis movie hehehehe

patches689:


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/15/russia-offered-newzealand-military-hardware

http://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/south-korea-submarine-import-and-export-behavior/

agaugust:


Even if your navy robs a bank, they won't have enough money to buy one stealth OPV, talk less of that dream list above
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agaugust:


Nope, I need a citation of technical specs saying that SAS Drakensberg 20mm cannon are not connected to radar fire control.

The photo you posted is NOT SAS Drakensberg, it's a random photo....http://www.navy.mil.za/SANCareers/weapons_operator.htm

Now I make you look more dense today than I did yesterday . LOL

#Slaughtered
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agaugust:


There is nothing in your source relevant to your claims.

I see talk about nuclear submarine and Korea buying a new model Type 209 that is superior to that of South Africa.

You helped me prove my point o ! Thanks brah
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agaugust:


There is nothing in your source relevant to your claims.

I see talk about nuclear submarine and Korea buying a new model Type 209 that is superior to that of South Africa.

You helped me prove my point o ! Thanks brah
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