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Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by asapeola(m): 2:30pm On May 29, 2015
Bollinger:


Fact: I have two Native Indian friends.

Fact: The information I just provided is well documented in public records for all Americans to access.

Fact: you've just exposed your ignorance. You haven't disproved anything. Your method of rebuttal is hurling insults. Sad.

Q: Do native Americans recieve compensation from the US govt?

A: No, American Indians DO NOT receive compensation from the US Government. However, the US Government has a TRUST RESPONSIBILITY to American Indians and as the Trustee, collects revenue earned from land, minerals, water, etc. on behalf of *some* individual American Indians and *some* tribes. *Not all.* The US Government then distributes the money (which is the NDN's money to begin with) back to those NDNs for whom it was collected. Again, this does not apply to all American Indians, just those who have retained their land, mineral, water rights through treaty AKA a "contract."
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by sniper77(m): 2:31pm On May 29, 2015
Nothing lasts forever.
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by Nobody: 2:31pm On May 29, 2015
lexy2014:



" Niger Deltans do not naturally need your stipends called Amnesty welfare".

" Any attempt to take away the stipends paid the jobless youths of Niger Delta occassioned by decades of the misrule of the Kaduna Mafioso will be resisted."

Oga u authored both quotes above. Which one we go follow?

I provided Panacea as a substitute to stoppage of the stipends. Develop infrastructures, relocate offices of Oil companies to the states of Niger Delta and make them pay taxes and engage in community development. Mobil, Addax, Chevron, etc have no business being in Lagos. Daura President should use Presidential fiat to move them to host communities.

We need change, not 50kobo, we need to make sure things are done differently, that's the mantra that people voted for. We will not accept to be scammed.

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Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by Ochinex(m): 2:38pm On May 29, 2015
PTAwal:
God forbid .... instead wish him BEST OF LUCK.
Fish brain
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by omonnakoda: 2:40pm On May 29, 2015
Bollinger:


Fact: I have two Native Indian friends.

Fact: The information I just provided is well documented in public records for all Americans to access.

Fact: you've just exposed your ignorance. You haven't disproved anything. Your method of rebuttal is hurling insults. Sad.

I do not need to rebut any thing it is a fundamental part of discourse if you introduce "facts" that you have a responsibility to substantiate them

Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat

It is incumbent on he who declares to prove not on he who disputes.

Give us a source for public records for your claim that all native Americans are "compensated for life"
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by Bollinger(m): 2:40pm On May 29, 2015
asapeola:


Q: Do native Americans recieve compensation from the US govt?

A: No, American Indians DO NOT receive compensation from the US Government. However, the US Government has a TRUST RESPONSIBILITY to American Indians and as the Trustee, collects revenue earned from land, minerals, water, etc. on behalf of *some* individual American Indians and *some* tribes. *Not all.* The US Government then distributes the money (which is the NDN's money to begin with) back to those NDNs for whom it was collected. Again, this does not apply to all American Indians, just those who have retained their land, mineral, water rights through treaty AKA a "contract."

I forget that I am talking to a Nigerian. When we say native we mean 100 percent indian. not half caste. Full Native American. Hence the emphasised on "native". what do you think the funds given to trustees are used for? first you said I lied, now you've Googled and seen facts you are now saying i am right but not completely. Sometimes Google is not your friend. You have to live it to understand it.

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Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by thoth: 2:41pm On May 29, 2015
You know……it's really funny how everything falls into place. some say the Blackman can't see beyond his nose ,sometimes i wonder if the Blackman sees his nose at all.

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Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by CSTR2: 2:41pm On May 29, 2015
OrlandoOwoh:

What is your age range? I need to know before I answer you.
Shut up you ignoramus.
Alienating the amnesty programme from youth unemployment and poverty shows how mischievous you are.
You are a bigot.
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by Geedhey(m): 2:42pm On May 29, 2015
Billyonaire:
The Daura President should know that Development of Infrastructures in the Niger Delta should begin from Today. Any attempt to take away the stipends paid the jobless youths of Niger Delta occassioned by decades of the misrule of the Kaduna Mafioso will be resisted. The Niger Deltans feed this nation and naturally deserve more Federal welfare.

All Oil Companies should be made to relocate their Administrative and operational offices to the States of Niger Delta so they can pay their taxes to those States instead of Paying to Lagos.

Niger Deltans MUST first be given priority in jobs in the Oil sector.

Gas flaring and oil leakages MUST be stopped.

When a people are pushed to the wall, they will react. Niger Deltans do not naturally need your stipends called Amnesty welfare, but it was a child of necessity for their Gods-given wealth that all Nigerian states continue to enjoy and share every 4 weeks.

The Daura President MUST know, that he is NOW the President of Nigeria and NOT President of APC.

Congratulations Daura President, you are now my President.

Goodluck to you.
You obviously getting things wrong. do u get so bitter that you thought are mis guided... oil companies should relocate their offices to ND like they don't pay yearly royalties fee to the indigene to a place where their safety is not guaranted. How come some few people are extremely rich in the region yet nothing of a development is happen ring there.

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Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by abnsugbe: 2:42pm On May 29, 2015
ANGELMARVE:
WHAT!!! i have been saying GMB till 2023 but afta hearing of him ending d amnesty then im sorry its now GMB till 2016.

Bro don't expect much 4rm dis new administration. It will always be business as usual, the difference is that they will be more careful in terms of siphoning our collective wealth. Quote me anytime.

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Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by stayblack: 2:47pm On May 29, 2015
stigman:


Bas.tard, thunder fire you idiot, babaonechance na your papa? Pig, goat reply me
THIS ONE DON RUN MAD.. grin RAM
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by Bollinger(m): 2:48pm On May 29, 2015
omonnakoda:


I do not need to rebut any thing it is a fundamental part of discourse if you introduce "facts" that you have a responsibility to substantiate them

Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat

It is incumbent on he who declares to prove not on he who disputes.

Give us a source for public records for your claim that all native Americans are "compensated for life"

House of Congress Washington DC.
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by Metrofox(m): 2:50pm On May 29, 2015
TheAdvocate:


Its not illegal dummy. It was an act of the National Assembly and signed into law by the then President Musa Yar Adua.

thanks smartypants.. I'm sure paying large sums of money monthly to illiterates & pipeline contracts were part of your 'legal' deal
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by Akon419(m): 2:50pm On May 29, 2015
The illiterate F00l is just biting what he can't chew
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by Ochinex(m): 2:51pm On May 29, 2015
stagger:
I am a hard core Niger Delta guy and will not support the kind of amnesty program that has made Kingsley Kuku and some of those brigands billionaires and yet the main people who need this help are getting nothing.

That amnesty program should end NOW! Our youths are damn too lazy and laziness and brigandry should not be supported.

liar u r a full blooded idiotic blood sucking northern
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by lexy2014: 2:53pm On May 29, 2015
Billyonaire:


I provided Panacea as a substitute to stoppage of the stipends. Develop infrastructures, relocate offices of Oil companies to the states of Niger Delta and make them pay taxes and engage in community development. Mobil, Addax, Chevron, etc have no business being in Lagos. Daura President should use Presidential fiat to move them to host communities.

We need change, not 50kobo, we need to make sure things are done differently, that's the mantra that people voted for. We will not accept to be scammed.
U didn't answer d question I asked. U made 2 contradictory statement. Which should I hold onto? Again, did buhari say he will scam niger deltans?
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by omonnakoda: 2:54pm On May 29, 2015
Bollinger:

if you are a native Indian you get compensated for the rest of your life because Indians are the landlords of America.


This is the bone of contention. It is untrue according to you this i a matter of public record

please provide a source for this.
Bollinger:


I forget that I am talking to a Nigerian.
When we say native we mean 100 percent indian. not half caste. Full Native American. Hence the emphasised on "native". what do you think the funds given to trustees are used for? first you said I lied, now you've Googled and seen facts you are now saying you are right but not completely. Sometimes Google is not your friend. You have to live it to understand it.

You are insecure and petty that is why you feel a need to belittle.Of what relevance is it whether it is a Nigerian or Togolese.

Again to back up your bullshit you introduce another lie. Bottomline is you are talking about things you do not understand.
Some Native Americans receive some entitlements under specified circumstances. It does not discriminate "half -caste" or not that is rubbish.

Those entitlements do not accrue to every Native American wherever they are and they are not "compensation" you need to check the legal meaning of that word and not because "They are the landlords" of America as you claim e.g . The cicumstances vary from place to place and these are often payments or projects or other entitlements to communities rather than individuals. A Native American living in Brooklyn does not get payments for life that is just rubbish .On the other hand if he was living in designated "reserves" would receive some government aid or entitlement whether they are half caste or not. This came about not because they are landlords but because they were often very poor and disadvantaged and White America felt guilty about their plight not unlike Almajiri schools etc. Are we to say Almajiri schools are "compensation"?
The relationship between the US and Native Americans is complex but is based on several treaties signed with different groups. Some groups have a stronger legal position and even have entitlement to some oil and mineral rights others do not it is not the same across board
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by stigman(m): 2:55pm On May 29, 2015
stayblack:
THIS ONE DON RUN MAD.. grin RAM

Son of a thousand father, pig oya reply me, mumu
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by badesco(m): 2:58pm On May 29, 2015
if it ends in december, he must surely renew it, if not.....Ya wa go gass...Lol
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by omonnakoda: 2:59pm On May 29, 2015
Bollinger:


House of Congress Washington DC.
Yes it is still there and has not been moved?
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by stayblack: 3:01pm On May 29, 2015
stigman:


Son of a thousand father, pig oya reply me, mumu
UR BITTERNESS ,DON MAKE U MAD..I FILL U...MONKEY.... cool
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by Bollinger(m): 3:02pm On May 29, 2015
omonnakoda:


This is the bone of contention. It is untrue according to you this i a matter of public record

please provide a source for this.


You are insecure and petty that is why you feel a need to belittle.Of what relevance is it whether it is a Nigerian or Togolese.

Again to back up your bullshit you introduce another lie. Bottomline is you are talking about things you do not understand.
Some Native Americans receive some entitlements under specified circumstances. It does not discriminate "half -caste" or not that is rubbish.

Those entitlements do not accrue to every Native American wherever they are and they are not "compensation" you need to check the legal meaning of that word and not because "They are the landlords" of America as you claim e.g . The cicumstances vary from place to place and these are often payments or projects or other entitlements to communities rather than individuals. A Native American living in Brooklyn does not get payments for life that is just rubbish .On the other hand if he was living in designated "reserves" would receive some government aid or entitlement whether they are half caste or not. This came about not because they are landlords but because they were often very poor and disadvantaged and White America felt guilty about their plight not unlike Almajiri schools etc. Are we to say Almajiri schools are "compensation"?





Nigerians have weird sense of reasoning as is the case here, which is why I said what I said in the first place. Also, I know not all Indians get compensation which is why I stressed on the "native". like I said I am assuming a Nigerian would know what that meant. Every native Indian gets compensation for life.

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Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by pazienza(m): 3:04pm On May 29, 2015
Native America land is a conquered territory, the Caucasians are their conquerors.

America situation cannot be used to look at the ND situation, the dynamics differ. For a start, ND is not a conquered territory. Oil producing communities in Europe, if there are any should be a better example.
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by stigman(m): 3:05pm On May 29, 2015
stayblack:
UR BITTERNESS ,DON MAKE U MAD..I FILL U...MONKEY.... cool

Worm, I know that you are jobless just leave me alone
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by stayblack: 3:07pm On May 29, 2015
stigman:


Worm, I know that you are jobless just leave me alone
RAM,OK...
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by omonnakoda: 3:11pm On May 29, 2015
Bollinger:



Nigerians have weird sense of reasoning as is the case here, which is why I said what I said in the first place. Also, I know not all Indians get compensation which is why I stressed on the "native". like I said I am assuming a Nigerian would know what that meant. Every native Indian gets compensation for life.
And who is the arbiter of weirdness? To determmine that another person's reasoning is free of weirdness do you use your own reasoning as the gold standard?


NO ONE gets compensation so let us stop that !! You can check what compensation in this context means .It is a legal concept. Some people may get aid or grants or entitlement but Not compensation


Secondly they are not "Indians" they are Native Americans that is the correct terminology but let us accept your term "Native Indan" You claim that Every native Indian gets compensation for life.

So rather than rendering endless verbiage can you provide a source for this claim which is what is the bone of contention

Every native Indian gets compensation for life.

How much do they get and from whom and what is its legal basis/status
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by winterfell007(m): 3:14pm On May 29, 2015
It would be unwise 2 end d programme. I would rather suggest u reform d structure within d organisation. Any attemppt 2 discontinue d programme will be met with stiff opposition. Trust me GMB, u̶̲̥̅̊ don't want 2 begin ur administration with a renewed crisis in a region that sustains d nation. Trust me on this one
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by stigman(m): 3:15pm On May 29, 2015
stayblack:
RAM,OK...

Ram sh*t, jobless bas.tard
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by stayblack: 3:18pm On May 29, 2015
stigman:


Ram sh*t, jobless bas.tard
ALL THIS MONKEYS ARE NOW CRYIN.... grin grin SAI BABA..
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by TeamSimple(m): 3:19pm On May 29, 2015
I don't seem to understand Some Niger delta characters that we have on this forum..The Amnesty programme hasn't benefitted the common man on the street of Niger delta,instead it only favours the lords of the creeks. Now you have a leader who wants to cut that by investing directly on projects that will impact on the life of an average niger deltan and you still shouting war and foul..Smh out of thread.
Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by mickey45: 3:24pm On May 29, 2015
ANGELMARVE:
WHAT!!! i have been saying GMB till 2023 but afta hearing of him ending d amnesty then im sorry its now GMB till 2016.

You're just one out God knows how many million nigerians so you cannot think for everybody.
I'm a graduate n I'm being offered just paltry 7k at my ppa despite that I'll be putting my ambitions on hold and assisting them for a whole year.
I met one of these guys in camp, he couldn't even operate an ATM as I was d one who helped him withdraw his monthly pay.
You mean I'm to blame for going to school instead of the creeks?
And before you talk, I'm also from ND?

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Re: Niger Delta Amnesty Due To End In December- Buhari by amarachi06(f): 3:33pm On May 29, 2015
Imanuelle:
Please let it end as soon as next month.

How can we have unemployed graduates, earning nothing, and a bunch of ragtags earning a lot and securing contracts.

This is pure evil.


na ur papa get the oil?

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