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Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by bonechamberlain(m): 8:40pm On Jul 27, 2015
azpekuliar:


You really do not know the history of Christianity. I suggest you go read up the history books. Islam is today where Christianity was in the 13th century. As far as I am concerned all religion in the wrong hands will eventually become vile and manipulative, reason I why I will continue to advocate for atheism.
so Christians fought to convert people. for ur information I don't
believe most things about Christianity but it
didn't convert people forcefully
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by illiad: 8:41pm On Jul 27, 2015
Meritbaba:

I still insists you never read the thing, oponu wayray jati jati omo inu igbo

Iwo taye e ti baje

Asiwin egbere oshi!
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by bonechamberlain(m): 8:41pm On Jul 27, 2015
zionzoe:
Pls can I buy you a Bottle of Coke?......honestly u just made my day.
This Government need to gather minds like yours and glean from them.
Thank you!
gratias. God bless. I would prefer Pepsi......

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Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by mbolajide2010: 8:48pm On Jul 27, 2015
Mcowubaba:

Stop deceiving urself Sir, of all the debates, facts, ridicules nd issues brought about Christianity by atheist, scholars or non believers.... the Peaceful aspect of Christianity has no valid argument or Logic!!!
If u were a christian, u would hav understood those passages u quoted, but unfortunately u are Not...so explaining to u, is like pouring water on a stone..
Suit urself...the facts remains- Islam is Violent, Evil....
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There you go hypocrite! But you as a christian can understand the quran while the muslims can not understand your bible?

You said the quran preaches violence and someone brought out similar verses from your bible, then he can not understand it since he is not a christian. The holy spirit resides in you yet Christians understand the bible differently.

Don't you think if it is true that the holy spirit must reside in you before you understand the bible, then Christians will understand the bible the same way?
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by bonechamberlain(m): 8:51pm On Jul 27, 2015
Teekrayne:
.......... That is how bluffers like u spread bogus news all in the name of educating some akamu set of people who knows nothing but to like and share!!! That can only be done in your village since u are the only educated illiterate there!! How sure are you with the trash u posted..... I shake my head in disgust for your bleak future!!! To read is one thing, to comprehend is another....... Stop accentuating your foolishness via dis platform! We aren't comfortable with your stupidity
if there is anyone who is foolish or stupid it should be u. when an issue is raised u either debunk it by stating what u know or supporting it, not going round circles and raining insults. u should educate urself on behaving civil and observing decorum, that's if u want to be educated
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by bonechamberlain(m): 8:53pm On Jul 27, 2015
tuzle:
guy na lie. I was agreeing with until u said christainity was built on peace and love then you know nothing about the history of christainity. because if u know you would have know dat back the roman catholic where more violent than this
the roman Catholics, did they convert people forcefully
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by bonechamberlain(m): 8:57pm On Jul 27, 2015
bulakos:
My friend you know nothing about about Islam and Jihad, you don't know what is the stand of islamic perspective in terrorism. You don't read books, and obviously you don't read your bible. Go and make profound research about Islam is there you will know the true meaning of peace.

Assalamu Alaikum.
u should have explained the stand if Islam on terrorism. pls since u read books a lot can u tell me some books I could use to get more knowledge.
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by sinkhole: 9:00pm On Jul 27, 2015
WaffenSS:


And this almajiri knows english better than you do. Was your education tax-deductible too? Or you just innately dense by virtue of genetic predisposition?
It is your whole family that is dense and retarded, child of a cow!
Bring it on, Im ready for you, son of a bitchii!
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by bonechamberlain(m): 9:00pm On Jul 27, 2015
Snipes009:
Same Christ that called for swords Look beyond your nose lil nigga. Make use of the little brain God gave you....

u should be the one to make use if the little brain God gave u. when peter cut the ear of the soldier who came to arrest Jesus, what was he told. to shealth his sword
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by bonechamberlain(m): 9:02pm On Jul 27, 2015
kingwhiz:



why can't you just do your studies for once and stop spilling lies you heard people say around....
you are very wrong..

'enough said!
nairaland is a place for education and learning. pls educate us on the truth.
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by mbolajide2010: 9:05pm On Jul 27, 2015
Dnarvaez:

Where did you conjure this enormous piece of figmented rubbish from?
Don't tell its the bible I read cos I'm sure as hell its not! Oh maybe your worthless qu'ran?
Again muhammad & his stone (allah) are crying in hell. If you're pained,
go hit your head on a brick wall.
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See how you are disgracing yourself!

Someone presented a fact before you, and instead of you to pick up your bible to check it you are bragging as if you know everything in the bible, which you don't.

Whatever you exhibit here presenting your arguments is definitely what you will exhibit in real life. Let's learn to be civil.
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by YakubuA: 9:12pm On Jul 27, 2015
bigiyaro:
its d fault of d instructor who failed to convey d instructions properly, a gud instructor knows how to give his instruction n to make sure dey r well understood. I can see dat u r tryin to seprate islam n violence, i tink it will be easier for u to seprate sweetness from honey.

If what you say is true then when a student fails exam then the teacher should be sanctioned. What happen in reality is different. If most of the students fail then the teacher is sanctioned but if some of the students fail then is accepted as normal and the fault is attributed to the concerned students. In most cases a failure of 10% is easily accommodated but in this case you cannot accommodate a failure of less than 2% that you attribute it to the Instructor? What kind of critique are you? Pls be sincere.

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Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by Nobody: 9:38pm On Jul 27, 2015
Since your dumbass no go kuku read your bible well. Next week Sunday, when you get to church, tell your pastor to read Luke 22:36 for you. But before then, please stay off my D....and don't come here trying to explain that verse to me. Your brain needs to be recalibrated.

bonechamberlain:
u should be the one to make use if the little brain God gave u. when peter cut the ear of the soldier who came to arrest Jesus, what was he told. to shealth his sword
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by kanoguy(m): 9:41pm On Jul 27, 2015
frankyychiji:
I stopped reading this poo when I read that Shettima was awarded best governor of the yea! embarassed embarassed embarassed
go and die
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by YakubuA: 9:43pm On Jul 27, 2015
zionzoe:
I must come in here........my muslim friend, even if you study the bible from now till tomorrow, you cannot understand it. You are a Natural Man
"But the natural man recieveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually DISCERNED" 1 Corinth. 2:14
I wish I can look into your eyeball and tell you that........Ur foundations(Mohammed(SAW) 's Character is faulty. Tell me one thing that my Foundation( Jesus Christ) did wrong and I will follow a better person , with a better Character.
Yoruba says "Iwa l'ewa".
Let us even forget how these great men said.........the question is what did dey do? An Islamic Cleric who was bold to say that he has more moral Justification/ better Character than Mohammed(SAW) Eight others are sentensed to death, why? you guys prefer Container with a Rotten content.
I respect Muslims.......but can u for a minute ask yourself "If God who created all humans will order for 2/3 of them 2 be killed because u call them infidels?"
Can any all d Muslims in the world create a Man? Have any life been ressurected in d name of Alah or Mohammed( but think of how many life are been lost in their names?
Just look at d fruits and make a descision. U might not like Christ, but He is Simply the best. I don't pray for Him to get to Heaven or be Favored to get there as you pray for Mohammed daily! Jesus is already at the right hand of God now.......
Stephen an Example of a good Mytre[ saw him in
Act 7:55
"But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into Heaven, and saw the Glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God"
Be smart.......let my people think oooo!

OK May be the bible is meant for aliens not humans. My friend you are absolutely wrong all scriptures are meant for normal humans and by the way I am only presenting what is in the bible to you and I did not misquote it. Why don't you check and verify from your bible?

No. You do not respect us Muslims unless if respect has a different meaning to you. If you truly respect us why do you abuse our Messenger whom you know nothing about or did you see anywhere in my post I abuse Jesus or anyone for that matter? Or is it a sign of respect to you when you abuse someone? Anyway this is common for most of you when you ran out of what to say you resort to all kind of abuses and curses.

In Islam God never ordered 2/3 of humans to be killed. Rather what we have is that he who kill a human is as if he has kill the whole of humanity. Our law also is that whoever kill a human unjustly should be killed which the same in the bible.

Another misconception you have about us is that we offer prayer of praise for Muhammad because God and all the angels praised him while we offer prayers of worship to God alone without associating partners with Him.

I have explain this earlier in my posts that Allah in Arabic, Elah/Elai in Aramaic (language of Jesus) and elohIm in hebrew are all the same and is the name of God. I am sure you know that God is English word and Jesus was not an English man.

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Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by bonechamberlain(m): 9:55pm On Jul 27, 2015
Snipes009:
Since your dumbass no go kuku read your bible well. Next week Sunday, when you get to church, tell your pastor to read Luke 22:36 for you. But before then, please stay off my D....and don't come here trying to explain that verse to me. Your brain needs to be recalibrated.

from ur write up I can see u re uneducated and confused. u know so much about the bible and u don't know or don't want to know that verse. sorry
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by YakubuA: 10:01pm On Jul 27, 2015
limamintruth:



But why is it that muslims are "most" prone to misquote t[/b]heir supposed 'holy' book and be misguided by dubious clerics than faithfuls of all other religions





It is true that Jesus Christ did not come into the world to abolish the ancient laws as proscribed by God Himself. This is to show that God never made mistake when He made these laws for the nation of Isreal in time past.

And the same biblical verses you quoted further explains that Jesus Christ came to earth to "FULFIL(accomplish)" the law. [b]And He(Jesus Christ) has indeed fulfilled the law with His death on the cross for the sins of mankind.

Hence, the law ceases to exist now not because it was abolished but because it has been fulfilled in full & duly discharged as accomplished. In other words, its purpose has been accomplished, thus its existence ends.
Comprendel? undecided

And now back to the thread, Governor Shettima is absolutely right on this one cos I'm also of the opinion that our northern islamic clerics have a vital role to play in the fight against terrorism ravaging the north at the moment.
I really wonder why they are so scared of death like this when most of these clerics are already aged sef, & B.T.W no one will live on this earth forever cos death is inevitable.

2% is most for you out of 100%? what kind of Arithmetic is that? We have the original scripture in its original form so it is very easy for us to know when someone is wrong. On the contrary the bible is not in its original form hence you have different types and versions and you will be shock to find that none of them conform to the original scripture which was in Aramaic.

My friend there is nowhere in the bible where Jesus said that his death on the cross is accomplishment of all the laws and thereafter all the laws should be abolished or cease to exist. Please give me reference otherwise you have to agree that you are fabricating that.
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by jedyjedy(m): 10:10pm On Jul 27, 2015
Terrorists are only obeying the instruction given to them by their prophet: kill the Infidels!
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by Nobody: 10:16pm On Jul 27, 2015
Lol....Get off my D!

bonechamberlain:
from ur write up I can see u re uneducated and confused. u know so much about the bible and u don't know or don't want to know that verse. sorry
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by tuzle(m): 10:20pm On Jul 27, 2015
bonechamberlain:
the roman Catholics, did they convert people forcefully
dey even burned people who refused to convert alive. They where worst than the muslim it is either u are with them or against. And dey hated scientist, if they had laid their had on isaac newton he would have been history(suya). Bro know/read more about the history of a particular thing before u defend it
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by gists: 10:54pm On Jul 27, 2015
How easy is it to go on a horse ride (which is very bumpy) with a book (Quran) in one hand and a sword in the other and still be able to conquer the people? Seriously, some people just swallow lies and falshood and to make matter worse they keep spreading the lies without ever using their brain to objectively analyze the subject.
I don't expect this little post to change anybody's mind but the aim is to give objective minds a logical line of argument.

History:
There are Christians in the middle east before the advent of Islam - FACT
So did Muhammed wiped them out as some people want us to believe? THE FACT IS THAT HISTORY DOES NOT SAY SO. Even if we are too lazy to read and do a little research "googling", we should know there are still christians in the Middle East today. I am referring to ARAB Christians whose forefathers/foremothers have been practicing Christians since the birth of Christianity in the first century AD.

So the question is how come these group of people still exists today if Muhammed forced all of them to convert? By their logic, there shouldn't be any of these people on earth because they all should have either been killed or converted. But today, the Copts in Egypt still exists. They were not converted nor wiped out even though they have lived for centuries under Islamic government. So also are the Maronite in Lebanon (according to wikipedia), same goes for the Assyrian in Iraq/Iran/Turkey.

While there have been persecution of Christians since the time of Jesus (in the hands of the Jews), these ignorant people fail to realise that the major christian persecutions happened under fellow Roman christians. The history records are there to read for those that are not too lazy. A little bit of reading would have save them from ignorantly displaying their fo0lishness in public online domain for many to see.

I have always asked these people to provide a credible source to back up the claim that Muhammed set out to wipe out others who did not agree to practice Islam. I can bet they will not provide any form of reasonable argument but just insults.

Indonesia
I like the Indonesia example as it is a country with farrrr majority of the nationales being muslims. But their is no history of any Islamic war in that country. So go figure.
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by Mcowubaba: 10:59pm On Jul 27, 2015
mbolajide2010:
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There you go hypocrite! But you as a christian can understand the quran while the muslims can not understand your bible? This is my major problem with Christians.

You said the quran preaches violence and someone brought out similar verses from your bible, then he can not understand it since he is not a christian. The holy spirit resides in you yet Christians understand the bible differently.

Don't you think if it is true that the holy spirit must reside in you before you understand the bible, then Christians will understand the bible the same way?
Oga u have no valid argument...
Pls quote me, where nd when I mentioned that I understand the quran shocked eh
Islam is a violent regilion QED!!!!
Al shabab, Isil, taliban, Isis, Boko-haram e.t.c
Nd don't think I am shying from engaging u or ur colleague in a solid debate, he just brought out a single verse, nd generalised meaning into it , why didn't he bring out the entire Chapter, let's us both look @ it logically nd spiritually!!!!...
Not all muslims are terrorist, but most terrorist are Muslims!!!...
Hw do u explain, the continuous violence nd killing of non-muslims in d Northern part of the country...
The will mak mockery of Mohammed in france, ur disgruntled feeble-minded religious infidels will start killing Christian faithfuls in Nigeria undecided..Boko haram will bomb a mosque, ur muslim people will go nd burn a church nd if possible kill a pastor nd his whole family..
Oga abeggiii....let's call spade a spade!!!!
In terms of Atrocities u can't compare Christianity nd Islam..the difference is glaring!!! ISLAM is BAD, EVIL, VIOLENT!!!!
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by WaffenSS(m): 12:25am On Jul 28, 2015
sinkhole:
It is your whole family that is dense and retarded, child of a cow!
Bring it on, Im ready for you, son of a bitchii!

you poor, pathetic, neutered goon. whatever gave you the impression im going to go into a pissing contest with a little boy? there is no conversation between men and maggots. By the time you pupate and abandon the cocoon of your banal insignificance, your insect mind would find i exist in a dimension, socially and materially, higher than your best aspirations.

shoo now, little maggot. Go fester on some sh1it as your ilk has a proclivity for.
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by Pussycat120: 2:07am On Jul 28, 2015
Gov. Shetima has no problem with security for the Islamic Scholars. He can use the civilian JTF to guard them or appeal to his brother PMB to order that security be provided for the Scholars.
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by sinkhole: 6:00am On Jul 28, 2015
WaffenSS:


you poor, pathetic, neutered goon. whatever gave you the impression im going to go into a pissing contest with a little boy? there is no conversation between men and maggots. By the time you pupate and abandon the cocoon of your banal insignificance, your insect mind would find i exist in a dimension, socially and materially, higher than your best aspirations.

shoo now, little maggot. Go fester on some sh1it as your ilk has a proclivity for.
It is obvious who is a boy, the discernings could see! And it is equally obvious that you amount to nothing but somebody that should be rigged with TNT and sent to Borno, it is only in pieces that you are valuable!
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by Abdulhakeem7(m): 7:30am On Jul 28, 2015
bonechamberlain:
Islam, don't know if it is a religion or a cult. how can there not be a problem when the foundation was built on violence. Muhammed started it fighting and forcefully converting people, uthman Dan fodio brought the. nonsense to Nigeria fighting and also forcefully converting people, and we called that religion of peace. why Christians aren't violent is because the foundation was based on peace and love for one another. Christ came, instead of staying to enjoy with his peacefully converted brothers he choose to die for us, the Europeans came into Nigeria despite all their selfish desires no body was forcefully converted. we have various bodies in Christianity but none preaches violence. in islam if there are 10, six preaches jihad ( violence). pls u guys ( Muslims) should go and some soul searching and be sure u are in the right place.
some bimbos like u with little or no knowledge of islam will just come out to say rubbish. Who told u islam started with violence? Who told u jihad means violence?jihad simply means striving and if u strive to make a living ,to make a good grade in school or struggle to purify ur heart from indecency, all ds are what we call jihad and war or violence as people oftentimes misinterpret it . Why will u now blindly translate jihad to violence?Muslims all believe in Jesus and all other prophets of God(peace be upon them all),so if u don't know what to say it's better u shut ur nasty mouth rather than saying things ignorantly. Beside Islam never preaches dat anyone should take anybody's life unjustly. Exodus 20:22 says u must kill and destroy those who worship another god and Qur'an 60:8 says be righteous and act justly towards those who worship other god.

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Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by zionzoe(m): 8:25am On Jul 28, 2015
Good Morning, my Friend Yakubu, Jesus Loves you and died to free you from sins,
1) First you said that the bible is not meant for aliens, I understand what you meant nAturally. Yakubu, do you know that you are made up of a)Spirit b)soul and c) you live in a body.
The real you is your spirit.
Now, every man born of woman since adam have sinned except one , Jesus Christ! I am sure u know that the conception of Jesus Christ is a Miracle. His blood is not the blood of that man called Joseph who married maryam.His blood is pure, which qualify him as a kind of Sacrificial lamb, the kind God wanted Father Abraham to offer, which some of u kill during Sallah. That lamb is symbolic, Jesus Died as that Lamb to Save u. At the instant of you accepting Jesus's sacrifice made on your behalf , ur spirit becomes recreated, (this is done by the Holy Spirit, who raised up Jesus from the Dead)any human born since adam carries a dead spirit-a spirit that cannot stand or commune with God. But when u identify with the sacrifice Jesus made on your behalf, he takes ur sin and gives you His righteousness. It is then your spirit comes alive! It is only then you can understand the Bible, it then becomes food to your spirit. That is the meaning of 1Corinth 2:14........those of us who are believers, truely are Aliens in this world, but we have a commonwhealth with Christ. But we don't shut d door on you as Heavens ambassadors, we love u as our foundation, Jesus said and demonstrated in His lifetime.

2) On the issue of respect, I think it is based on perspective. Respect is not a birthright , it must be earned. However respect does not change His-story( sorry I meant History).
If Mohammed(S.A.W) had placed his narrative on a Gallant Soldier, who killed and won battles, it would have been acceptable. But how can you have blood in your hands and still say you can save me? Why didn't he save those he killed?

You see, I cannt see white and because any damn person says I should call it black because God says so, then I will submit and call white black. What hunts his Religion is is History-in other words- his-story.
How can you explain this statements below?
ura 9:29– “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”

Sura 9:5– “Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.”
This are not words a savior but a Millitant.......terrorizing and specialist in looting. Not a savoir. He who truely created does not destroy his creation. He loves it.
Again ...........let us think ooo
YakubuA:


OK May be the bible is meant for aliens not humans. My friend you are absolutely wrong all scriptures are meant for normal humans and by the way I am only presenting what is in the bible to you and I did not misquote it. Why don't you check and verify from your bible?

No. You do not respect us Muslims unless if respect has a different meaning to you. If you truly respect us why do you abuse our Messenger whom you know nothing about or did you see anywhere in my post I abuse Jesus or anyone for that matter? Or is it a sign of respect to you when you abuse someone? Anyway this is common for most of you when you ran out of what to say you resort to all kind of abuses and curses.

In Islam God never ordered 2/3 of humans to be killed. Rather what we have is that he who kill a human is as if he has kill the whole of humanity. Our law also is that whoever kill a human unjustly should be killed which the same in the bible.

Another misconception you have about us is that we offer prayer of praise for Muhammad because God and all the angels praised him while we offer prayers of worship to God alone without associating partners with Him.

I have explain this earlier in my posts that Allah in Arabic, Elah/Elai in Aramaic (language of Jesus) and elohIm in hebrew are all the same and is the name of God. I am sure you know that God is English word and Jesus was not an English man.
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by zionzoe(m): 9:07am On Jul 28, 2015
Hello Adbulhakeem, I think you need to be schooled so that you can stop emmiting hatred and Frustration. I understand your frustration and it truely grieves me! I cannot imagine how I will feel if suddenly it is proven that what I took as sacred is now profane.
I wish dat we all had d opportunity to chose the Savior we would follow based on. Their Character while they walked on this planet Earth. It is difficult defending what is personal in terms of Character. If you truely believe in Jesus narative and proven Character and integrity the way d new testament puts it then u have struck life and it will not be taken from you but if you hold onto that Incorrect narrative that he never ressurected.........den u never really accepted his substitution for your sins, then you keep on striving to please GoD and can even kill , if it will please God but yet he is not pleased.Go to Jerusalem and you will see that the tomb where Jesus was buried is empty.
CaLl on God to show you who Jesus truely is............I tell u he will reveal His love to you and you Quest to please God mechanically, ceases. God now becomes pleased with u in this world and in d new world that will come soon. U are very close to the truth!
Abdulhakeem7:
some bimbos like u with little or no knowledge of islam will just come out to say rubbish. Who told u islam started with violence? Who told u jihad means violence?jihad simply means striving and if u strive to make a living ,to make a good grade in school or struggle to purify ur heart from indecency, all ds are what we call jihad and war or violence as people oftentimes misinterpret it . Why will u now blindly translate jihad to violence?Muslims all believe in Jesus and all other prophets of God(peace be upon them all),so if u don't know what to say it's better u shut ur nasty mouth rather than saying things ignorantly. Beside Islam never preaches dat anyone should take anybody's life unjustly. Exodus 20:22 says u must kill and destroy those who worship another god and Qur'an 60:8 says be righteous and act justly towards those who worship other god.
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by zionzoe(m): 9:24am On Jul 28, 2015
My Dear Jacob, sorry I mean Yakubu, I am pleased calling your name because it is d name of one of our Patriachs.
The problem we are having today is not the 98% muslims or 2% muslims who practise what is written practically.the problems are the imams/d inciters who hide behind curtains shamefull telling followers to kill for God.....accross dis..........


World-renown Islamic university teaches it’s okay for Muslims to cannibalize Jews and Christians
Posted by StMA
Egypt Independent is the sister English-language publication of Al-Masry Al-Youm, Egypt’s flagship independent daily newspaper. Founded in 2009 as a news website, Egypt Independent launched a weekly print edition in 2011.

According to an article in Egypt Independent, April 14, 2015, religious jurisprudence textbooks at Al-Azhar University teach students that Muslims are allowed to eat the dead flesh of Jews and Christians.



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Note: Al-Azhar University is Egypt’s oldest degree-granting university, renowned as “Sunni Islam’s most prestigious university.” Founded in 970 or 972 as a center of Islamic learning, Al-Azhar was one of the first universities in the world and is today the chief centre of Arabic literature and Islamic learning in the world. Its mission is to propagate Islam and Islamic culture. To this end, the university’s Islamic scholars render edicts (fatwas) on disputes submitted to them from all over the Sunni Islamic world regarding proper conduct for Muslim individuals and societies. Al-Azhar also trains Egyptian government-appointed preachers in proselytization. As of 1996, over 4000 teaching institutes in Egypt were affiliated with the University.

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From the Egypt Independent article, “Al-Azhar textbook: Eating dead Jews,
Christians, infidels ‘halal’ if necessary“:

Religious jurisprudence textbooks for Al-Azhar students address, among other things, the issue of eating dead human beings, quoting Mansour bin Yunus al-Bahuti, a scholar of the Hanbali school of jurisprudence who died 500 years ago, as saying that eating dead Jews, Christians and non-believers is halal (permissible by Islam) if it is a necessity, but non-Muslims are not to eat dead Muslims, even out of necessity.

Another textbook quotes Imam al-Sherbini of the Shafi school of jurisprudence as saying that dead prophets of any religion should not be eaten. And when he was told that prophets do not die and that they lie alive praying in their graves according to the Hadith, he said that he meant if they were found dead before they were buried.

He also clarified that the meat of dead Jews, Christians and infidels should be eaten raw, not cooked or grilled.

Other Al-Azhar textbooks say that eating dead Jews, Christians and non-believers can be allowed not only out of necessity, but also as a punishment for heresy.

In the book “Persuasion in Resolving the Words of Abi Shoga” that takes after the Shafi school of jurisprudence, the author says a Muslim warrior may kill and eat infidel men, women and children if they were not warriors themselves. 

But bin Abdel Salam recommends eating warrior adults and leaving warrior children for their economic value as slaves. 

[…] In the chapter about what is permissible to eat, the book “Al-Sharh al Saghir” for Ahmed Dardir, which explains the Maliki school of jurisprudence. […] says a Muslim may eat a dead human being out of necessity, but not eat pork or wild game that was hunted by a non-believer.

In the video below (beg. at the 1:26 mark mark), an Egyptian scholar is interviewed about the Al-Azhar textbooks that teach cannibalism and holds in his hands an example.


The scholar identifies the textbook as:

Al-Azhar al-Sharif (honorable al-Azhar), Azhari Colleges Section, Central Administration for Books, Libraries & Teaching Aide for 3rd year high-school.

The interviewer points out that it’s not just Jews and Christians who can be cannibalized; Muslims who don’t pray can also be killed and eaten:

The book that is being taught to general high-school students mentions that who doesn’t pray can be grilled and then eaten. Killing him, then grilling him, then eating him…. This means that this is fertile ground for the establishment of committees for Promotion of Virtue & Prevention of Vice that’ll carry out this stuff.

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Note: By “committees for Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice,” the interviewer was referring to Islamic religious police. In Saudi Arabia, the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (CPVPV), informally referred to as Haia, is a government agency of Mutaween (religious police) who enforces Sharia Law.

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The scholar adds, pointing to and reading from the textbook:

Also listen to this: “He can kill the married adulterer, the fighter, whoever gave up praying, and whoever has a punishment on him, even if the Imam did not give his permission for the killing.” Take note. Those are allowing people to go kill other people.

Walid and Theodore Shoebat point out that Egypt also has its CPVPV — “an Islamic mafia” who “roam the streets assaulting, or even killing, those whom they speculate to be apostates.”

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Note: Walid Shoebat, born in Bethlehem of an American mother and a Palestinian Arabic father, used to be a member of the PLA involved in terror activities, until he converted to Christianity (Catholicism) in 1994. In 1978, Shoebat’s parents sent him to the United States to study at Chicago’s Loop College where he was recruited for Jihad by the Islamic Association of Palestine. Theodore Shoebat is Walid’s son and a Christian activist.

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The Shoebats observe that not only is the CPVPV in Egypt’s new constitution, but that —

“the constitution also mandates that any Islamic edict coming from the government must first go through Al-Azhar university scholars. This means that the okay for cannibalism will be observed in Egypt…. While many people see Islam as a morally conservative religion, akin to Christianity and Judaism, they don’t understand that Islam is Satanic, and of no different spirit than any other pagan religion.”

In 2009, Al-Azhar University co-hosted President Barack Obama’s speech at Cairo University, “A New Beginning,” which empowered the Muslim Brotherhood.
YakubuA:


Yes you are because there are over 1.7billion Muslims in this world and majority of them are not involve in that so why use the action of less than 2% who misunderstood the verses to conclude on Islam and the entire Muslims? Please be sincere.

If someone misunderstood instruction is it the fault of the Instructor or the fault of the listener who misunderstood? Any reasonable person will agree that it is the fault of the one who misunderstood and not the fault of the Instructor. Hope you get my point.
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by limamintruth: 10:22am On Jul 28, 2015
YakubuA:


2% is most for you out of 100%? what kind of Arithmetic is that?

2% you say? shocked
And where the hell did you dig out your baseless figure mister
Every muslim is either outrightly a terrorist or a terrorist sympathiser: FACT! sad
And because I know you'l doubt the aforesaid notorious fact, permit me to remind you that your supposed prophet muhammed(the master-minder of several genocidal aggression on non-muslims & pagans during his era) was an outright terrorist himself. cool


YakubuA:


We have the original scripture in its original form so it is very easy for us to know when someone is wrong. On the contrary the bible is not in its original form hence you have different types and versions and you will be shock to find that none of them conform to the original scripture which was in Aramaic.

Lols, truss me bro., you wont want to go down that lane with me grin

Even though I see no correlation between the allegations you keep popping up about the Holy Bible and the topic of this thread (but of which I'm not at all surprised cos that has always been the kind of derailing tactic you pathetic muslims like to employ anytime the truth about your despicable religion is being discussed lipsrsealed ), nonetheless, I'l go ahead n indulge you same way I'v done to your fellow islamists on nairaland.

It is trite that he who asserts must prove. Hence, since you claim that the bible has been distorted from the aramaic version, why not show reasonable proof here to corroborate your allegation then? undecided
I promise to respond to you accordingly after you corroborate your claim with fact. smiley
Who knows, maybe you have the aramaic version with you to show the house sef. cheesy

And BTW when you say the original quran, are you referring to the haf's arabic version, warsh's arabic version e.t.c? undecided


YakubuA:

My friend there is nowhere in the bible where Jesus said that his death on the cross is accomplishment of all the laws and thereafter all the laws cease to exist. Please give me reference otherwise you have to agree that you are fabricating that.

Lallai kam, I can now see that you are already confused sef. Or have you forgotten so soon that you were the one that quoted some biblical verses and sought explanation thereof

I believe even in your jihadic mosques, your imams do offer similar kind of explanations you term 'fabrication' but on quranic verses to their she.epish congregation as well. tongue

However in the spirit of love as enshrined by our Lord & saviour Jesus christ, I'l still oblige you with a simple answer thus:

◄Romans 10:4 ►

New International Version (N.I.V)
Christ is the culmination of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.
New Living Translation (N.L.T)
For Christ has already accomplished the purpose for which the law was given. As a result, all who believe in him are made right with God.

King James Bible (K.J.V)
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Comprende' undecided


(However if I may ask, how does your irrelevant argument change the story of this thread that confirms to us Boko Haram are muslims operating in the name of your allah as further (indirectly) corroborated by Gov. Shettima @yakubuA )
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by mbolajide2010: 11:32am On Jul 28, 2015
Mcowubaba:

Oga u have no valid argument...
Pls quote me, where nd when I mentioned that I understand the quran shocked eh
Islam is a violent regilion QED!!!!
Al shabab, Isil, taliban, Isis, Boko-haram e.t.c
Nd don't think I am shying from engaging u or ur colleague in a solid debate, he just brought out a single verse, nd generalised meaning into it , why didn't he bring out the entire Chapter, let's us both look @ it logically nd spiritually!!!!...
Not all muslims are terrorist, but most terrorist are Muslims!!!...
Hw do u explain, the continuous violence nd killing of non-muslims in d Northern part of the country...
The will mak mockery of Mohammed in france, ur disgruntled feeble-minded religious infidels will start killing Christian faithfuls in Nigeria undecided..Boko haram will bomb a mosque, ur muslim people will go nd burn a church nd if possible kill a pastor nd his whole family..
Oga abeggiii....let's call spade a spade!!!!
In terms of Atrocities u can't compare Christianity nd Islam..the difference is glaring!!! ISLAM is BAD, EVIL, VIOLENT!!!!
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Try to comprehend any post before you respond to it. I never claimed, that you said you understood the quran. You quoted a guy that he could not understand the bible since he is not a christian.

Then, i asked, "but you as a christian can understand the quran while muslims can not understand the bible?" It was a question bro. And i'm referring to you or any other christians.

Are you saying because some muslims act violently then Islam support violent? If your answer is yes.Then, let me ask you this can we say beacause some christians commit adultery then christianity supports adultery?

Thank you.
Re: Why Islamic Scholars Are Silent On Boko Haram, By Governor Kashim Shettima by Teekrayne(m): 12:37pm On Jul 28, 2015
bonechamberlain:
if there is anyone who is foolish or stupid it should be u. when an issue is raised u either debunk it by stating what u know or supporting it, not going round circles and raining insults. u should educate urself on behaving civil and observing decorum, that's if u want to be educated
....... Thanks, we learn everyday and I respect your view! But then, it still doesn't change the fact that you are a baboon........ Eranko

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