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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by OGreene: 10:24pm On Aug 17, 2015
@nunaija, how soon did you re-apply that you changed training. Just asking cos der is need for some consistency when u are re-applying within a short time frame.

You like trainings tho cool
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by OGreene: 10:32pm On Aug 17, 2015
You should study this thread or ask and ask and ask angry

nunaija:
Hello good people. I just found out about this thread. You suggestions would be highly appreciated.
I applied for a student visitor visa in February and was denied. Reasons: I only included my savings account and not my salary account which shows my monthly salary of 250k.
Due to lack of experience I also got the "How much do you have for this trip?" question wrong... I mentioned all I had in my account...was confused
I booked for a hotel for 1 week
I included my payslips for 6 months with the savings account(970k balance).
All other documents were included.
I am married and my monthly take home is 240k excluding project bonus which varies. The course I'm going for is just 1 week and I stated this in my application. I was able to defer the training programme to October and I want to reapply for the visa. Kindly advice on what I should do differently this time.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by askari01: 3:27am On Aug 18, 2015
OGreene:
Am so sorry for what happened. Something in me tells me that you didn't read dis thread or ask questions b4 applying. (pardon me if am wrong). How on earth you came up wt that figure for d cost of 1-WEEK TRIP is unbelievable! Ppl usually give a breakdown of their budget/cost/financials... for ppl to help dem cross-check here.

You may want to hold onto d mistake of dem mentioning the course fee, but how do you make light of the unrealistic budget you gave. Did you state in ur application that you hv paid for d course?

I feel you shud calm down a bit and apply much later. Allow time pass b4 they will think you are desperate. And be thorough next time. Check for trainings in other countries too, if I get 2 refusals for a particular country, I will kuku face other ones until my circumstances change greatly will I go back to apply der.

This is not to kill ur morale, you may do as you wish.



Ogreen, what of me that have asked questions and u haven't said anything? Oya maake ur contribution nah
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by nunaija: 4:19am On Aug 18, 2015
OGreene:
@nunaija, how soon did you re-apply that you changed training. Just asking cos der is need for some consistency when u are re-applying within a short time frame.

You like trainings tho cool
It's the same training. I didn't change the training. I applied early this year. That was my first refusal. I deferred the admission till November and that's why I'm applying now. I attached the invoice for payment and the ECO still mentioned my course fee in the refusal as if I've not paid for it. Do I have any case?

Thanks for your support!
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by nunaija: 4:28am On Aug 18, 2015
OGreene:
Am so sorry for what happened. Something in me tells me that you didn't read dis thread or ask questions b4 applying. (pardon me if am wrong). How on earth you came up wt that figure for d cost of 1-WEEK TRIP is unbelievable! Ppl usually give a breakdown of their budget/cost/financials... for ppl to help dem cross-check here.

You may want to hold onto d mistake of dem mentioning the course fee, but how do you make light of the unrealistic budget you gave. Did you state in ur application that you hv paid for d course?

I feel you shud calm down a bit and apply much later. Allow time pass b4 they will think you are desperate. And be thorough next time. Check for trainings in other countries too, if I get 2 refusals for a particular country, I will kuku face other ones until my circumstances change greatly will I go back to apply der.

This is not to kill ur morale, you may do as you wish.



Yes I stated that I've paid for the course. So you think I should forget about it?

Many thanks
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by askari01: 4:41am On Aug 18, 2015
Justwise,Vicjustice,Ogreen, ralphlauren, and other intelligent people, Kindly make ur contribution towards answering my questions, I don't wanna make any mistake whatsoever, IbLaw has made a contribution but would also like to know ur take on these. A church invited my aunt for an anniversary celebration in UK, The church already sent her IV,Bank statements and Hotel reservation, The church stated that they will be responsible for her welfare throughout her stay in the UK. Below are the question and my answer on the form. I stand to be corrected.

1. What is the cost to you personally if ur trip? Answer- £800

2. The total amount of money you have for the trip? Amswer- £810

3. The cost of aeroplane, boat, train?
Answer- £570( iberia or turkish airline)

4. The cost of accomodation?
Answer- NIL

5. The cost of ur living expenses?
Answer- £230

6. Is anyone other than you paying for all or part of ur trip?
Answer- Yes

7. Pls selct what the relationship is of the persin who is contributing to the payment for your trip?
Answer- Other- INVITEE

8. How much will they be paying towards your trip in £
Answer- £791 as on hotel reservation sent to her.

9. Explain why they are paying towards the cost of ur trip?
Answer- I explained to them that they already stated in their letter that they will be responsible for her welfare.

10 what is the total amount in £? Including money other may be giving you?
Answer- I added flight+living exp+ hotel =£1600

Kindly advice on the above questions and answers as u have known that section is the most important part of the application.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by ekpotek: 5:24am On Aug 18, 2015
askari01:

Justwise,Vicjustice,Ogreen, ralphlauren, and other intelligent people, Kindly make ur contribution towards answering my questions, I don't wanna make any mistake whatsoever, IbLaw has made a contribution but would also like to know ur take on these. A church invited my aunt for an anniversary celebration in UK, The church already sent her IV,Bank statements and Hotel reservation, The church stated that they will be responsible for her welfare throughout her stay in the UK. Below are the question and my answer on the form. I stand to be corrected.

1. What is the cost to you personally if ur trip? Answer- £800

2. The total amount of money you have for the trip? Amswer- £810

3. The cost of aeroplane, boat, train?
Answer- £570( iberia or turkish airline)

4. The cost of accomodation?
Answer- NIL

5. The cost of ur living expenses?
Answer- £230

6. Is anyone other than you paying for all or part of ur trip?
Answer- Yes

7. Pls selct what the relationship is of the persin who is contributing to the payment for your trip?
Answer- Other- INVITEE

8. How much will they be paying towards your trip in £
Answer- £791 as on hotel reservation sent to her.

9. Explain why they are paying towards the cost of ur trip?
Answer- I explained to them that they already stated in their letter that they will be responsible for her welfare.

10 what is the total amount in £? Including money other may be giving you?
Answer- I added flight+living exp+ hotel =£1600

Kindly advice on the above questions and answers as u have known that section is the most important part of the application.

I have posted a comprehensive answer to these question earlier on this thread. Read through it.

I think it's important for all UK visa applicant to know how to fill the INCOME AND EXPENDITURE part of the application form. Many applicants are refused because of their inconsistency in filling this part. I will try to provide some explanations here:

DO YOU HAVE SAVINGS, PROPERTIES OR OTHER INCOME, FOR EXAMPLE FROM STOCKS AND SHARES? This question is to find out if you have other sources of funds to finance your trip apart from your usual earnings. This could be savings, renting of properties, lands or stocks. If you have any of these sources of funds, then answer YES and provide documents to support your answer. Give estimate what amount this will translate on a monthly basis.

HOW MUCH DO YOU SPEND EACH MONTH ON LIVING COSTS? This question is to find out what is your average monthly expenditure from your current income. For applicants that earn salary, you should be able to estimate how much you spend on living every month. Those that are self employed, can also provide an estimate.

HOW MUCH OF YOUR TOTAL MONTHLY INCOME IS GIVEN TO YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS AND OTHER DEPENDENTS? If you have dependents, such a parents, relations that you cater for, state how much money in GBP you must send to them monthly otherwise fill NOT APPLICABLE.

WHAT IS THE COST TO YOU PERSONALLY OF YOUR TRIP IN GBP(£)? If someone else is fully sponsoring your trip, obviously the cost to you personally is ZERO. In such case, your sponsor must submit documentation, e.g bank statement, and a letter written to UK embassy clearing stating why he/she is sponsoring the trip and any other justification. If the applicant is sponsoring himself, then the applicant must state how much the trip will cost (accommodation, flight ticket, meals, taxi, etc).

THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU HAVE FOR THIS TRIP? The amount you enter here must correspond to "cost to you personally" if you are sponsoring yourself. If there is a sponsor, enter the amount the sponsor will make available to you.

THE COST OF THE AEROPLANE, BOAT OR TRAIN TICKETS. Enter the cost of flight ticket (Return ticket)

THE COST OF YOUR ACCOMMODATION. Enter the cost for accommodation (obtained from the hotel) or zero if staying with someone. Then you must submit documentation from that person, such as tenancy agreement, mortgage document, utility bill and a letter from that person to the embassy stating that they will accommodate you for the period stated in your application.

THE COST OF YOUR LIVING EXPENSES. Enter cost for eg. taxi, bus, shopping etc

IS SOMEONE OTHER THAN YOU PAYING FOR ALL OR A PART OF YOUR TRIP? If you have a full sponsorship or partial sponsorship, then the answer to this question is YES, otherwise enter NO

WHAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT IN GBP(£)? Enter the total amount by adding the cost flight ticket, accommodation, living expenses. Ensure that this amount does not exceed the cost you computed for the trip.

Also any amount you enter, you must provide the currency, usually it better to provide the amount in GBP to avoid confusion. If you need to explain any thing else, use the addition information page and/or a sheet to paper. I hope these will answers some the questions applicants have on INCOME AND EXPENDITURE SECTION.

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Vicjustice: 6:22am On Aug 18, 2015
askari01:

Justwise,Vicjustice,Ogreen, ralphlauren, and other intelligent people, Kindly make ur contribution towards answering my questions, I don't wanna make any mistake whatsoever, IbLaw has made a contribution but would also like to know ur take on these. A church invited my aunt for an anniversary celebration in UK, The church already sent her IV,Bank statements and Hotel reservation, The church stated that they will be responsible for her welfare throughout her stay in the UK. Below are the question and my answer on the form. I stand to be corrected.

1. What is the cost to you personally if ur trip? Answer- £800

2. The total amount of money you have for the trip? Amswer- £810

3. The cost of aeroplane, boat, train?
Answer- £570( iberia or turkish airline)

4. The cost of accomodation?
Answer- NIL

5. The cost of ur living expenses?
Answer- £230

6. Is anyone other than you paying for all or part of ur trip?
Answer- Yes

7. Pls selct what the relationship is of the persin who is contributing to the payment for your trip?
Answer- Other- INVITEE

8. How much will they be paying towards your trip in £
Answer- £791 as on hotel reservation sent to her.

9. Explain why they are paying towards the cost of ur trip?
Answer- I explained to them that they already stated in their letter that they will be responsible for her welfare.

10 what is the total amount in £? Including money other may be giving you?
Answer- I added flight+living exp+ hotel =£1600

Kindly advice on the above questions and answers as u have known that section is the most important part of the application.
The answer to #7 should be RELIGION ASSOCIATION/FELLOWSHIP.
You have not logically provided an answer to question #9 which is the most important of all: That is the key question of the application, and the answer that you provide to the question will determine the outcome of the application, it should have to satisfy the Visa Officer.
Please, don't ask me what to answer to that question as that is a question that she and the Church should know the answer to.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by justwise(m): 7:36am On Aug 18, 2015
nunaija:
Good day Justwise and others! Thank you for the good job you are doing here. I posted on this thread previously about my refusal early this year. I was guided and reapplied and Voila! I was refused again.

I was refused the first time because I did not include my salary account and I got the "How much do you have for this trip question" wrong.
This time I attached my salary account that shows my 300k monthly salary with pay slip for 6 months. I wrote a cover note to explain why I was refused at first and that I have attached the documents as requested

My purpose of traveling is for a 1 week training.

My second refusal:
The ECO said my previous training does not have anything to do with the training I'm going for. I bet they are related and its also job related.

Second reason is that I said the cost of travel and accommodation is 646 GBP. The ECO responded that The amount is unreasonable for airfare, accomodation, course fee and maintenance. I have paid for the course fee and Don't understand why he/she is referring to course fee. finally, the fund you have shown are not sufficient to cover all the expenses for the trip.

The balance on the account is roughly 1M

Good people please advise me on what to do next.

Thank you in anticipation

The ECO is right, that is not enough for flight, accommodation and transport within the UK
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by justwise(m): 7:38am On Aug 18, 2015
Mubarak39:
Hello gurus.
Pls someone should help me with this issue. I just started the online application and I'm applying for tier4, the first question they asked is "Which application form are you using to make your application?*" and there is nothing like tier4 in the option. What should i do pls? thanks

Are you sure you are using the right link?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by nunaija: 8:32am On Aug 18, 2015
justwise:


The ECO is right, that is not enough for flight, accommodation and transport within the UK

Thanks sir. What do you think I should do now?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Mubarak39: 9:02am On Aug 18, 2015
justwise:


Are you sure you are using the right link?

These are the screenshots of the options.

Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by justwise(m): 9:10am On Aug 18, 2015
nunaija:


Thanks sir. What do you think I should do now?


Make a realistic budget of the trip
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by justwise(m): 9:13am On Aug 18, 2015
Mubarak39:


These are the screenshots of the options.

Can you start again using this link? https://www.gov.uk/apply-uk-visa
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by nunaija: 9:24am On Aug 18, 2015
justwise:
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Make a realistic budget of the trip

@justwise
Do you think I should re-apply?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by justwise(m): 9:29am On Aug 18, 2015
nunaija:


@justwise
Do you think I should re-apply?

Good question...but to answer that i have to ask you this:

Why are you sponsoring yourself and not your company?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by nunaija: 9:39am On Aug 18, 2015
justwise:


Good question...but to answer that i have to ask you this:

Why are you sponsoring yourself and not your company?
@justwise They've sent me for series of trainings in the past. This is a personal decision for me and I've always taken responsibility for my career and educational development. In short I will spend another 2 years to be qualified for this type of training according to what I heard from HR and I can't wait cos I have my eye on better role and promotion

Do I stand any chance if I reapply?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Iziy: 10:29am On Aug 18, 2015
I have just returned from the UK on a student visa and want to apply for a Visit. Is it Ok to use my foreign bank statement and my Personal account statement not salary account. Please i need ur advice Justwise
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by iblaw: 10:51am On Aug 18, 2015
Vicjustice:

The answer to #7 should be RELIGION ASSOCIATION/FELLOWSHIP.
You have not logically provided an answer to question #9 which is the most important of all: That is the key question of the application, and the answer that you provide to the question will determine the outcome of the application, it should have to satisfy the Visa Officer.
Please, don't ask me what to answer to that question as that is a question that she and the Church should know the answer to.
Yes you have to give a proper answer to Q9 eg. Your aunt is a trustee/going to minister in the church/related to the founder of the church etc. You need good reasons for this Q9 and it will be good if you can support reasons with documents.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by tinglesbabe: 10:51am On Aug 18, 2015
Hi, please can i use just my salary account to apply for a UK visit visa?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Mubarak39: 10:57am On Aug 18, 2015
justwise:


Can you start again using this link? https://www.gov.uk/apply-uk-visa

Okay thank you sir.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by nunaija: 11:14am On Aug 18, 2015
@justwise Please let me know what you think I should do. I will go with whatever you say. I'm waiting sir
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by justwise(m): 11:19am On Aug 18, 2015
nunaija:
@justwise Please let me know what you think I should do. I will go with whatever you say. I'm waiting sir
Have you considered other countries for the training?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by nunaija: 11:22am On Aug 18, 2015
justwise:

Have you considered other countries for the training?

Yes. Miami AdSchool but its too expensive I cant afford it.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by askari01: 11:26am On Aug 18, 2015
ekpotek:


I have posted a comprehensive answer to these question earlier on this thread. Read through it.

I think it's important for all UK visa applicant to know how to fill the INCOME AND EXPENDITURE part of the application form. Many applicants are refused because of their inconsistency in filling this part. I will try to provide some explanations here:

DO YOU HAVE SAVINGS, PROPERTIES OR OTHER INCOME, FOR EXAMPLE FROM STOCKS AND SHARES? This question is to find out if you have other sources of funds to finance your trip apart from your usual earnings. This could be savings, renting of properties, lands or stocks. If you have any of these sources of funds, then answer YES and provide documents to support your answer. Give estimate what amount this will translate on a monthly basis.

HOW MUCH DO YOU SPEND EACH MONTH ON LIVING COSTS? This question is to find out what is your average monthly expenditure from your current income. For applicants that earn salary, you should be able to estimate how much you spend on living every month. Those that are self employed, can also provide an estimate.

HOW MUCH OF YOUR TOTAL MONTHLY INCOME IS GIVEN TO YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS AND OTHER DEPENDENTS? If you have dependents, such a parents, relations that you cater for, state how much money in GBP you must send to them monthly otherwise fill NOT APPLICABLE.

WHAT IS THE COST TO YOU PERSONALLY OF YOUR TRIP IN GBP(£)? If someone else is fully sponsoring your trip, obviously the cost to you personally is ZERO. In such case, your sponsor must submit documentation, e.g bank statement, and a letter written to UK embassy clearing stating why he/she is sponsoring the trip and any other justification. If the applicant is sponsoring himself, then the applicant must state how much the trip will cost (accommodation, flight ticket, meals, taxi, etc).

THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU HAVE FOR THIS TRIP? The amount you enter here must correspond to "cost to you personally" if you are sponsoring yourself. If there is a sponsor, enter the amount the sponsor will make available to you.

THE COST OF THE AEROPLANE, BOAT OR TRAIN TICKETS. Enter the cost of flight ticket (Return ticket)

THE COST OF YOUR ACCOMMODATION. Enter the cost for accommodation (obtained from the hotel) or zero if staying with someone. Then you must submit documentation from that person, such as tenancy agreement, mortgage document, utility bill and a letter from that person to the embassy stating that they will accommodate you for the period stated in your application.

THE COST OF YOUR LIVING EXPENSES. Enter cost for eg. taxi, bus, shopping etc

IS SOMEONE OTHER THAN YOU PAYING FOR ALL OR A PART OF YOUR TRIP? If you have a full sponsorship or partial sponsorship, then the answer to this question is YES, otherwise enter NO

WHAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT IN GBP(£)? Enter the total amount by adding the cost flight ticket, accommodation, living expenses. Ensure that this amount does not exceed the cost you computed for the trip.

Also any amount you enter, you must provide the currency, usually it better to provide the amount in GBP to avoid confusion. If you need to explain any thing else, use the addition information page and/or a sheet to paper. I hope these will answers some the questions applicants have on INCOME AND EXPENDITURE SECTION.

Thanks Ekpotek, you still haven't clarify the question below.. what is the cost of accomodation? The organisation is paying for the Hotel booking... Should I input the value for hotel in the space or I should just leave it as NIL, If I input the total cost of accomodation, the embassy might say the cost to me personally is too small to the total cost . Advise on that pls
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by askari01: 11:30am On Aug 18, 2015
Vicjustice:

The answer to #7 should be RELIGION ASSOCIATION/FELLOWSHIP.
You have not logically provided an answer to question #9 which is the most important of all: That is the key question of the application, and the answer that you provide to the question will determine the outcome of the application, it should have to satisfy the Visa Officer.
Please, don't ask me what to answer to that question as that is a question that she and the Church should know the answer to.

Thank you VICjustice, I really appreciate ur contribution, excluding the ones you quoted, are the rest of questions entered properly? Thanks. Once again
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by justwise(m): 11:46am On Aug 18, 2015
nunaija:


Yes. Miami AdSchool but its too expensive I cant afford it.
Ok, you need to use the airline and hotel websites to come up with a realistic cost of the trip then see if you can afford it.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by justwise(m): 11:48am On Aug 18, 2015
Iziy:
I have just returned from the UK on a student visa and want to apply for a Visit. Is it Ok to use my foreign bank statement and my Personal account statement not salary account. Please i need ur advice Justwise
your salary account plus other bank accounts will help your application more
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by nunaija: 12:03pm On Aug 18, 2015
justwise:

Ok, you need to use the airline and hotel websites to come up with a realistic cost of the trip then see if you can afford it.

For Return ticket: 827.972 GBP
Hotel: 175 GBP 7 nights

Total is 1003 GBP

Yes I can afford it

What do I do next?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by customised87: 1:15pm On Aug 18, 2015
askari01:

Justwise,Vicjustice,Ogreen, ralphlauren, and other intelligent people, Kindly make ur contribution towards answering my questions, I don't wanna make any mistake whatsoever, IbLaw has made a contribution but would also like to know ur take on these. A church invited my aunt for an anniversary celebration in UK, The church already sent her IV,Bank statements and Hotel reservation, The church stated that they will be responsible for her welfare throughout her stay in the UK. Below are the question and my answer on the form. I stand to be corrected.

1. What is the cost to you personally if ur trip? Answer- £800

2. The total amount of money you have for the trip? Amswer- £810

3. The cost of aeroplane, boat, train?
Answer- £570( iberia or turkish airline)

4. The cost of accomodation?
Answer- NIL

5. The cost of ur living expenses?
Answer- £230

6. Is anyone other than you paying for all or part of ur trip?
Answer- Yes

7. Pls selct what the relationship is of the persin who is contributing to the payment for your trip?
Answer- Other- INVITEE

8. How much will they be paying towards your trip in £
Answer- £791 as on hotel reservation sent to her.

9. Explain why they are paying towards the cost of ur trip?
Answer- I explained to them that they already stated in their letter that they will be responsible for her welfare.

10 what is the total amount in £? Including money other may be giving you?
Answer- I added flight+living exp+ hotel =£1600

Kindly advice on the above questions and answers as u have known that section is the most important part of the application.

Wre is the £10 on the£810? The total amount does not tally,or am I the only one seeing that?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Vicjustice: 3:49pm On Aug 18, 2015
customised87:


Wre is the £10 on the£810? The total amount does not tally,or am I the only one seeing that?
That is trivial, it's insignificant.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Ralphlauren(m): 5:04pm On Aug 18, 2015
askari01:

Justwise,Vicjustice,Ogreen, ralphlauren, and other intelligent people, Kindly make ur contribution towards answering my questions, I don't wanna make any mistake whatsoever, IbLaw has made a contribution but would also like to know ur take on these. A church invited my aunt for an anniversary celebration in UK, The church already sent her IV,Bank statements and Hotel reservation, The church stated that they will be responsible for her welfare throughout her stay in the UK. Below are the question and my answer on the form. I stand to be corrected.

1. What is the cost to you personally if ur trip? Answer- £800

2. The total amount of money you have for the trip? Amswer- £810

3. The cost of aeroplane, boat, train?
Answer- £570( iberia or turkish airline)

4. The cost of accomodation?
Answer- NIL

5. The cost of ur living expenses?
Answer- £230

6. Is anyone other than you paying for all or part of ur trip?
Answer- Yes

7. Pls selct what the relationship is of the persin who is contributing to the payment for your trip?
Answer- Other- INVITEE

8. How much will they be paying towards your trip in £
Answer- £791 as on hotel reservation sent to her.

9. Explain why they are paying towards the cost of ur trip?
Answer- I explained to them that they already stated in their letter that they will be responsible for her welfare.

10 what is the total amount in £? Including money other may be giving you?
Answer- I added flight+living exp+ hotel =£1600

Kindly advice on the above questions and answers as u have known that section is the most important part of the application.

for no 10, i will fill in ZERO. nobody is giving her money.

for no 2, if her acct balance is up to 1m , i will fill in £1000

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