SeverusSnape:

On the bolded, I from henceforth disagree...Believe you me, omenka is a thousand times better than PassingShot judging from all the stuffs I just read. As for the document he promised to provide, I'm still waiting. The guy is just a common sycophantic paid poster.

As far as am concerned , they are all from the same m0ronic stock of paid posters.



Their good and silly times are seasonal one after the other.

OAM4J:


Agreed, but bro, Buhari is not just the president of his 'born and bread' North or the people he is is used to. He is the president of all Nigerian ethnic groups. Every part of Nigeria has a right to feel belonged in his Government. We need to build trust and harmony among all ethnics group until we get to a point we see ourselves as one like it obtained in US today.

You should not be President of Nigeria if you cannot build bridges across ethnics group. I dont want Buhari to be seen as Northern president, I want him to be seen as a Nigerian president.

The only way to build trust and harmony in Nigeria is to get things working.
Even if you appoint someone from every village in Nigeria, if the common man on the street still believes "you must know somebody to get things" done, there'll be know trust. Our distrust stems from the failed state of things in Nigeria.

When has Buhari ever said or done anything that has been for the benefit of Nigeria?

Has he ever campaigned for fiscal federalism?

For an end to the devastation of the Niger Delta by IOCs?

For an end to child marriage?

For an end to almajiri culture?

Why has he only ever made noise about Sharia Law and amnesty for Boko Haram?

PassingShot:

A religious bigot that recently canceled govt's sponsorship of Hajj? A religious bigots who have probably equal number of Muslim and Xtian appointees in his govt so far?

Sure the appointments have clearly skewed in favour of North but was Jona termed an ethnic bigot when over 70% of his appointments were skewed in favour of the South?

I don't like these latest appointments but let's talk factually and responsibly.

I keep imagining if you understand the meaning of facts at all...or are you wired to tell lies and live hatred ridden life...From where did you get Jonathan 70% Southerners?...

Yes...buhari just like you is a religious bigot who got his popularity in the north thanks to his stance on sharia...His SGF passed through hell to become APC national vice chairman NE because he's a Christian... He's the only Christian there...He had to work extra hard more than others to keep his post and attract buhari to keep him against odds...

Buhari stopping pilgrimage was for both sides(Hajj & Jerusalem)... to cut and save cost amidst dwindling revenue thanks to oil crisis...

CSTR2:
lol .
And the best team is made up of mediocre units?
I hope you guys don't get paid for these shallow arguments i keep seeing everywhere.

Is the best team football made up of the 11 best players?

AZeD1:


Actually some people (including me) say we don't care because we actually don't care. Successive governments have used Federal character in their appointments and where has that gotten us to?
The only people who would care about where Buhari's appointees come from are politicians and illiterates.

We gave Buhari a 4 year mandate, how he goes about it should not be our problem as long as it is within the confines of the constitution.

Gbam,

AZeD1:

It might look like that but i don't really care. You cannot solve problems with the same mentality that created the problems and ethnicity is what led us down this road we are.

So we should do away with federal character then?

We will start with unity school cut off and end up with employment in federal agencies. We should base everything on competence and lets know who will cry first.

Afam4eva:
This is not to cast any atom of doubt on Buhari's ability to lead and produce results after all, most of his opponents who were members of the electorate did not vote for him because they think he wont perform. Many of these people disliked him for the fact that they thought he was a tribalist and religious bigot. I personally paid no attention to what was flying around about Buhari pre-election, not necessarily because i thought what people were saying were lies but because those things could not be substantiated especially by me personally. So, i did what i have always done and that is to give people the benefit of the doubt. Personally, i felt Jonathan was a complete failure and thought we needed to try something different. Buhari may not have been my prefered choice out of the number of technocrats that i saw in APC but since he was presented, i kinda preferred him over Jonathan.

Now coming to the purpose of this thread. Doesn't it make some of us look stupid when it seems like Buhari is inching closer to the person they painted him to be. I mean, some Buhari supporters will make statements like "I don't care where the person Buhari appoints comes from as long as he is capable". Of course, statements such as these make people to sleep well at night and not look like complete idiots in the presence of people who would say "Didn't i warn you?". Anybody with an iota of common sense would see that this present dispensation has been riddled with an increase of Northern elements and it is glaring even to the blind. How do you explain the fact that after almost 20 appointments made so far. Only less than 5 are from the south. Not even a single person from the South-East has been appointed to any position. I know Igbos are the group of people we love to hate but this just isn't fair in my opinion. If you want to defend Buhari's pattern of appointments, i think your best bet would be to tell us how Southern Nigeria are so corrupt that it will be hard to find men of integrity or how the North boast of more educated individuals who are unrivaled.

In the spirit of giving Buhari, the benefit of the doubt, my 1 years grace period is still counting. After then, i'll have something to say about his government.

Buhari has to nominate ppl he knows best that can help him succeed. you r nt judging him by how much he appoints from south. bt much he succeeded, he is a human he reside in a particular location as such he virtually know ppl from that angle.

Please, those of you complaining if you know anyone from South, East or West with integrity and accountability, who is competent enough to be in Buhari appointment list start talking now so that I can pass ur messages to PMB.

Signed: Special Adviser on Social Media to the president of Federal Republic of Nigeria

Ramos16:

I pity a lot of people because they do not understand the sought of politics that goes on
in nigeria, i have been in the middle of more than 5 religious crisis in the north, having more of your people in power at times like that comes in very handy, am not going to say more, but i pray more people see where all this is going, especially those whose live have never been on the line for the faith they choose

Are we not supposed to be moving away from all those things?
Are we not supposed to be moving towards a Nigeria that works?

If your answer to the above is yes, isn't it high time we tried something different?
OBJ used federal character, Yar'Adua used it, GEJ used it yet we still don't have light or working refineries.
At what point do we as a nation say enough is enough, let's do the right thing?

agabaI23:
So we should do away with federal character then?

We will start with unity school cut off and end up with employment in federal agencies. We should base everything on competence and lets know who will cry first.

I'm all for scrapping federal character.

I voted for Buhari in all the elections he had contested, but right now I am feeling very uncomfortable. Time will tell.

AZeD1:

Is the best team football made up of the 11 best players?

Yes, the best football team is made of the best players, all things being equal.

AZeD1:

Are we not supposed to be moving away from all those things?
Are we not supposed to be moving towards a Nigeria that works?

If your answer to the above is yes, isn't it high time we tried something different?
OBJ used federal character, Yar'Adua used it, GEJ used it yet we still don't have light or working refineries.
At what point do we as a nation say enough is enough, let's do the right thing?

my point was vague, they stack up power for themselves to strengthen their people in times of war

Obiagelli:
Why do we seem to worry where who gets appointed comes from, we act like this appointments automatically mean "come and chop" rather than "come and work". We (rather they) keep quiet when the last government was appointing the biggest thieves from everywhere.
I would suppose a sane human being would be interested in how corruption free the president's appointments are rather than where they come from. It's not like when someone from your tribe is appointed you personally feel the impact. What is the fuss about?

Buhari has a 4yrs mandate, allow the guy choose those that can help him achieve the results he desires.

I get disappointed when I see people who should know displaying same herd mentality...

Did buhari not swear to live, work and protect our constitution... What did the constitution say?...Did our constitution support what you wrote here?...If the North had more corrupt free and informed individuals, how come they are highly undeveloped and poverty ridden?...Polio that isn't existing in somalia anymore is still being checked out in the north...Truth seems too costly for most of us to afford...

I dont understand all this hypocrisy, i laugh in 3D a region that gave less than 5% of the vote to him, 99.9% of ibos and niger deltans will be bias about him whether he appoints using federal character or not. The man even try by giving them MD NNPC. I believe appointment of this magnitude should be based on competence and not hearsay. How can i appoint if i dont know your capacity. Buhari ride on jare. so you expect me to be president today and start appointing someone i have never met, we dont know each other in any capacity, and i want to fight corruption. Buhari does not have power to centralize ministerial appointments but the one he has control over, he will be a fool to do otherwise.

Agbaletu:
Buhari is executing northern agenda, just wait until he appoints ministers. Are there no incorruptible southerners that can be trusted? One year is even too much for me to put his government on the scale, i am just waiting for the northern ministerial's list. The north is laughing at the south......

surely there r a lot of people of integrity in south bt PMB don't know them well compare to north. and he can't rule by proxy pdp style of leadership appointments for compensation or politicians big wigs nomination. cos if he fail appointing southner can't rescue him

GEN. BUHARI MURDERED THE PRINCIPLES OF FEDERAL CHARACTER.

HISTORY OF FEDERAL CHARACTER PRINCIPLE SHARING STILL DATE

Federal Character Principle was the product of Gowon Administration when after the Civil War when it was believed that Igbos occupied major ministries. But that should not border any body because Igbos did not occupy every ministry before the war. Remark that Tafawa Balewa was in Power and Ahmadu Bello made sure that Hausa-Fulani held the Nigerian Military even without formal education. So, where is Federal Character Principle in the Nigerian Military? Hausa should not monopolize everything; Igbo should not monopolize every thing; Yoruba should not monopolize every thing; Efik, Ijaw, Tiv, Isoko, Urhobo, Ndokwa, Fulani, and others should not monopolize every thing; I think that is what Federal Character Principle stands for.

BUT AS IT IS NOW, SHOULD WE SAY THERE IS FEDERAL CHARACTER PRINCIPLE IN NIGERIA? NOW LOOK AT THIS DATA:
1) About 70% of Nigeria Foot-soldiers are from Hausa-Fulani. Is that Federal Character Principle?
2) About 80% of all Permanent Secretaries in Federal Ministries are from Hausa-Fulani. Is that Federal Character Principle?
3) About 80% of those given Oil Wells presently in the Oil from Niger Delta Region are from Hausa-Fulani. Is that Federal Character Principle?
4) About 60% of Generals in the Nigerian Military are from Hausa-Fulani. Is that Federal Character Principle?
5) About 60% of the Heads of Parastatals are from Hausa-Fulani. Is that Federal Character Principle?
6) About 70% of the Top Posts in P.D.P are from Hausa-Fulani. Is that Federal Character Principle?
7) About 60% of the Top Ranks in Nigerian Police Force are from Hausa-Fulani. Is that Federal Character Principle?
About 70% of Nigerian State Security Services (SSS) men are from Hausa-Fulani. Is that Federal Character Principle?
9) About 60% Top Posts in each of: Nigerian Prison Services, Nigeria Immigration and Nigerian Ports Authority are from Hausa-Fulani. Is that Federal Character Principle?
10) Visit JAMB Office and see. About 90% of the employees are from both Hausa –Fulani and Yoruba tribes. Is that Federal Character Principle?
11) Visit Federal Secretariat Abuja Central Area Complex and see for your self. More than 80% of all the employees are from both Hausa-Fulani and Yoruba tribes combined. Is that Federal Character Principle?
12) Visit Nigerian Universities Commission (NUC) and see for yourself. About 95% of the professors and workers are from Hausa-Fulani and Yoruba tribes combined. Is that Federal Character Principle?
13) Go and check all the Federal Universities, Federal Colleges of Education, Federal Polytechnics. About 90% of all the Registrars and Bursars are from both Hausa-Fulani and Yoruba tribes combined. Is that Federal Character Principle?
14) Go and check all those given appointments to serve on behalf of Nigeria in both African Union and United Nations. About 98% of them are from both Hausa-Fulani and Yoruba tribes combined. Is that Federal Character Principle?
15) About 70% of all the Ambassadors and High Commissioners are from Hausa-Fulani and Yoruba tribes combined. Is that Federal Character Principle?
16) About 95% of all the employees (staff) of Nigerian High Commissions and Ambassadorial abroad are from Hausa-Fulani and Yoruba tribes combined. Is that Federal Character Principle?

FEDERAL CHARACTER PRINCINPLE and IN THE NIGERIA PUBLIC SERVICE
The federal character principle which made its debut into the Nigerian political and public administrative landscape through the drafting and adoption of the 1979 constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria appeared to be a normative expression of the historical belief of Nigerians in equal access to and participation in the political and administrative affairs of the country in the area of policy formulation and implementation. Lack of representation in policy making and implementation by some segments of the Nigerian society in the past has denie

on the issue of competency... hmmm. I dont remember a northerner topping d class back in primary and secondary skul days o... make we day watch this movie when buhari day produce. btw I schooled in a federal school in lagos o. hmmmm

Sai Baba Buhari GCFR

4Play:


With ministerial positions, the constitution expressly requires that ministers be appointed from each state in the country so Buhari would not have any option but to appoint ministers from each zone.

Exactly!!!

So even if there was some measure of balance in the ministerial nominees it would not be cos Buhari wanted it but cos he was REQUIRED to do so by the Constitution.

We have taken note

Obiagelli:

I believe that is for ministers

Constitution ties him up as par ministers, so he may not have options there...but seems silent as par other areas hence he instead of promoting unity of the country...keeps living to his tag of a sectional warlord...

So why won't people feel discontented?... Why won't people agitate to move away from Nigeria?...Not with statements like 95%/5% and acting it out this way too as well as cancelling projects in 5%regions...

1toRtoiSe1:
blame PDP for their divisive politics. We no longer see each other as nigerian. An igbo man now prefers a non-performing igbo minister to a credible one. No wonder they achieved nothing for their region upon all the appointments they got under GEJ.

There is no time in the history of Nigeria that we ever saw each other as 'Nigerians' without the tribal colouration. It has been so because ours is an unnatural existence. Right from the time of Ahmadu Bello when he said they will never give anything to the Igbos and if there's no competent one they'd rather call in expatriates. When u blame PDP for our divisive nature I begin to wonder. Yes, there has been cosmetic unity but just immediately underneath it everyone draws the line. Some exploit others because of their supposed large numbers making them feel insecure in their own home.

Just sit back and think, be objective and ask urself whether there's ever been any true peace and unity. Ask yourself why once they drew a caricature of Mohammed in Denmark, muslims in the North started killing Igbos n Christians. That is just one instance o! Let us call a spade a spade.

For Nigeria to exist as is, all nations within Nigeria must discuss terms of engagement but so long as one feels power over others is their birthright there can never be peace. It gets worse now cos it's so in your face and they feel u can't do anything. So be factual and not fall back to the default setting of blame. The foundation was diseased from day one.

With due respect CSTR2, have you ever been to the north?

CSTR2:
You seriously don't get the point.
The argument i have against buhari is not just because they are northerners. It is that there are far better candidates in the south and in higher numbers.
If the north had the best track record in governance, their leadership position would be justified beyond reasonable doubt albeit grulgingly.
The north is one of the worst places on earth to be a child,how can you then justify their domination of a supposedly progressive nation.?

CSTR2:
Yes, the best football team is made of the best players, all things being equal.

1) All things are never equal and would never be
2) Germany won the world cup without Messi, C. Ronaldo and Suarez (the three best players in the world)


The sum is greater than the parts.

colossus2:

Can't you see no one answered him
Please ignore him before he starts his insults

lol. I almost answered him o. Thank God I didn't. He would have dragged me into his mud. Imagine someone doing the exact same thing he is accusing others of.

Afam4eva:
This is not to cast any atom of doubt on Buhari's ability to lead and produce results after all, most of his opponents who were members of the electorate did not vote for him because they think he wont perform. Many of these people disliked him for the fact that they thought he was a tribalist and religious bigot. I personally paid no attention to what was flying around about Buhari pre-election, not necessarily because i thought what people were saying were lies but because those things could not be substantiated especially by me personally. So, i did what i have always done and that is to give people the benefit of the doubt. Personally, i felt Jonathan was a complete failure and thought we needed to try something different. Buhari may not have been my prefered choice out of the number of technocrats that i saw in APC but since he was presented, i kinda preferred him over Jonathan.

Now coming to the purpose of this thread. Doesn't it make some of us look stupid when it seems like Buhari is inching closer to the person they painted him to be. I mean, some Buhari supporters will make statements like "I don't care where the person Buhari appoints comes from as long as he is capable". Of course, statements such as these make people to sleep well at night and not look like complete idiots in the presence of people who would say "Didn't i warn you?". Anybody with an iota of common sense would see that this present dispensation has been riddled with an increase of Northern elements and it is glaring even to the blind. How do you explain the fact that after almost 20 appointments made so far. Only less than 5 are from the south. Not even a single person from the South-East has been appointed to any position. I know Igbos are the group of people we love to hate but this just isn't fair in my opinion. If you want to defend Buhari's pattern of appointments, i think your best bet would be to tell us how Southern Nigeria are so corrupt that it will be hard to find men of integrity or how the North boast of more educated individuals who are unrivaled.

In the spirit of giving Buhari, the benefit of the doubt, my 1 years grace period is still counting. After then, i'll have something to say about his government.

can you igbos let this south,south,south bulllshit rest for ones,south politicians are bulllshit...that is fact.......i rather have the north rule nigeria and progress with all of us,than a south concrete head,that dont know that stealing is corruption....

Sweetlemon:


Osinbanjo is most respected VP in Nigeria ever. If this was all about ethnicity, he would have been relegated to the background once mission is accomplished!

Sometimes I imagine how you guys reason and how proud you're writing gibberish here...

Which VP has been insulted as much as Osibanjo...Not with his ordinary commissiner tag?...Not with his being blocked out of security meeting?...Not with Aregbesola abandoning him as he is visiting Osun and left for Lagos allowing only SSG to receive him?...Name any VP that has been that humiliated in Nigeria that much?...Not Ekwueme, Not Atiku, Not Sambo...Maybe you guys lie just to feel good and be able to sleep away from all the bitter pills from buhari

AZeD1:

1) All things are never equal and would never be
2) Germany won the world cup without Messi, C. Ronaldo and Suarez (the three best players in the world)


The sum is greater than the parts.

Your football analogy is not proper here but i will still allow it.
Germany may have not have those three players, but they have a team made of players nearly close to messi in quality in virtually every position.
Argentina, portugal, and uruguay have one or two world class players in the league of suarez and then a whole bunch of mediocres.
It is no wonder why they didn't win the world cup.
Nigeria too have one or two world class technocrats and a whole bunch of northern mediocres.
Great countries were built by a solid team of first class patriotic minds.

Whynotthetruth:


Constitution ties him up as par ministers, so he may not have options there...but seems silent as par other areas hence he instead of promoting unity of the country...keeps living to his tag of a sectional warlord...

So why won't people feel discontented?... Why won't people agitate to move away from Nigeria?...Not with statements like 95%/5% and acting it out this way too as well as cancelling projects in 5%regions...

Section 14(3),as well as Third Schedule,Part IC 8(1),(2) &(3),totally tied him up on these ones as well.Thus far,he'd breached those sections of the Constitution with his appointments
Modified:
It's Third Schedule Part 1C,not 1B.Do forgive the mistake.1B establishes the National Council of State,while 1C deals with Federal Character commission and it's work

4Play:


I often find this sentiment profoundly silly not because I have much regard for PDP but because of what it reveals about Nigerians' lack of perspective. PDP came into power in 1999, the Nigeria of pre-1999 was an odious calamity. You often find people who either don't remember the Nigeria of those days or were kids/young at the time and had no real knowledge of the actual state of affairs then, basing their analysis on the notion that PDP is the root cause of our problem. They do so because PDP is all they have known in their adult life.

Nigeria was messed up before PDP was formed, therefore, what is wrong with Nigeria transcends PDP. This is a 55 year old country which has been dysfunctional from the beginning. You can keep deluding yourself that regurgitating political characters from the past, so long as they are not PDP, is the path to a new beginning but that is the height of self-deception. I predict that we will be dissapointed just as we have been for 55 years. In 8 years time, people who are infants or teens today will proclaim that our problem is mainly attributable to APC. We will never learn.

I am telling you. Nigerians have selective amnesia

PassingShot:

I will look for the document and present to you later. Maybe not 70% but you cannot argue that it was skewed in favour of SS and SE.

Besides, did where his appointees came from had any significant effect on his performance? His Otuoke community recently cried out for lack of potable water and other basic amenities?

Let me help you... https://www.nairaland.com/2429600/jonathans-appoinment-countering-deceit-some

I keep saying it, what your problem with Jonathan has nothing to do with governance but bigotry and natural hatred...

Cc. SeverusSnape , Afam4eva :