1. They are different entities
existing as one entity

2. Your second question is not
clear enough ... elucidate

3. They are different entities that share one nature - the "God nature "
4. I was stating an example .

dolphinheart:
@ kingEbukasBlog

1 . I asked you :
Is the father and Jesus two
different persons in heaven or
exist as one person?

You answered


I did not ask you about entity or entitities, I asked about person(s)
......................................


I asked you :
So anybody that says "I am is
god abi? If not, then saying "i
Am" does not prove you are god.
By the way, I want you to point
out where the holy spirit said " I am".
You answered :


Bro, my question is clear enough!
.......................................

I asked you :
So when Jesus ascended to
heaven and god told him to sit at his right hand, was god talking to himself? Or was he conversing with the other person of the same person in another dimension?

You answered :


Bro, ur answers are off the mark!

KingEbukasBlog:


In Heaven (a different dimension ):

God - Father
- Son
- Holy Spirit

Three of these entities are one person .

On earth (our dimension )

Emeka and Uche are two different persons and cannot exist as one

Isn't this cogent enough ?


Or Better explanation :

Who is God?

The Father says I am

The Son says I am

The Holy Spirit says I am

How possible ?

Because we three are one person. They are not three gods but One God existing as three entities ( in entirely different dimension) .

malvisguy212:
does the bible teach the following?
1. the Bible teaches that the
Godhead is one in nature.
2. the Bible teaches that God the
Father is one personality of the
Godhead.
3. the Bible teaches that the Holy
Spirit is one personality of the
Godhead.
4. the Bible teaches that Jesus the
Son is one personality of the
Godhead.
Conclusion: Therefore, God is
composed of three personalities in
one
nature.

John 1:1
explains, “In the beginning was the
Word, and the Word was with God, and
the Word was God. He was in the
beginning with God. All things were
made through Him, and without Him
nothing was made that was made.” Later in the first chapter of John we learn that the WORD (Jesus) “became flesh and dwelt among us.” Thus, the Word refers to Jesus, who was with God and was God and created all things along with the Father (John 1:14). We can see, then, that the oneness of the Creator must allow for at least some aspect of God to have a MULTIPLICITY of something.

Alright. In logical form,we could arrange the argument as follows. There is ONE God who created man. The concept of
oneness either means that nothing about God can have any type of plurality, or that some aspect of God is completely unified but at least one other aspect of God can have MULTIPLICITY to it. It cannot be the case that nothing about God can have any multiplicity since the Bible gives at least one aspect of God (the Father and the Son) that has multiplicity. Therefore, some aspect of God is completely unified, but at least one aspect of God can have, and has, multiplicity.

Psalm 90:2 say God is eternal from everlasting to everlasting and isaiah 9:6 say Jesus is eternal and also the book of Hebrew 9:14 say the holy spirit is eternal. BUT NEVER for once did the bible mention angels to be eternal.

Since the concept of eternality equally applies to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, then we have successfully determined at least one aspect of God that is completely unified and applies equally to every aspect of God. Understand?

Pr0ton:


It's not just a particular unified aspect that makes them God. Verses in the Bible including John 1:1 don't give them the name God because of an aspect, but because they obviously say they are Gods in the real sense.. the word was with God and the word was God..

Pr0ton:


Not strictly three entities as you're saying. The Trinity says when these three 'entities' stay distinct/separate they retain the qualities of God, making them separate Gods

Jozzy4:
Beautiful Analysis , @ Proton

The funniest part is that according to this people , God while on earth is actually praying to another God .

Pr0ton:


and that one God was kiiled on the cross after committing his spirit to another God.

dolphinheart:
@ kingEbukasBlog

1 . I asked you :
Is the father and Jesus two
different persons in heaven or
exist as one person?

You answered


I did not ask you about entity or entitities, I asked about person(s)
......................................


I asked you :
So anybody that says "I am is
god abi? If not, then saying "i
Am" does not prove you are god.
By the way, I want you to point
out where the holy spirit said " I am".
You answered :


Bro, my question is clear enough!
.......................................

I asked you :
So when Jesus ascended to
heaven and god told him to sit at his right hand, was god talking to himself? Or was he conversing with the other person of the same person in another dimension?

You answered :


Bro, ur answers are off the mark!

Richirich713:


Do u believe John 1 is saying there are 2 gods?

KingEbukasBlog:


lolz ... you are forcefully asserting at bold .

FrancisTony:

Jesus manifested as both God and man while on earth.

Go figure!

Jozzy4:
Beautiful Analysis , @ Proton

The funniest part is that according to this people , God while on earth is actually praying to another God .

malvisguy212:
genesis1:26
Then God said, "Let us make mankind in
our image, in our likeness...

The verse say "US" and then went on to say "IMAGE" if God is three separate being, the verse should've say images.

Isaiah 6:8
Then I heard the voice of the
Lord, saying, "Whom shall I send,
and who will go for US?" Then I said, "Here am I. Send
me!"

The verse say "WHOM SHALL I SEND" (ONE GOD) and the verse continue "WHO WILL GO FOR US" (three personalities)

The Bible makes it abundantly clear that God exists as God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. However,these three persons are not three separate gods, but ONE GOD. This
Trinitarian concept of God might seem to be contradictory from a HUMAN
standpoint, but is perfectly logical from
GOD'S EXTRADIMENSIONAL EXISTENCE. Anti-
Trinitarian heresies elevate
humans to the level of God or demote
one or more persons of the Godhead to
non-God status. Don't fall into one of
those traps!

"Go therefore and make disciples of all
the nations, baptizing them in the name
of the Father and the Son and the Holy
Spirit" (Matthew 28:19)

KingEbukasBlog:



Don't flatter yourself , your questions are not clear enough

1. The first question means you dont understand how three different persons can exist as one . Entities mean existing independently . Meaning they can communicate with each other but hey they are one ! Because they share one God-nature . It is

2. I was trying to introduce flair responding to your question . I created a scenario,which was :

Who is God ?

The Father says I am

The Son says I am

The Holy Spirit says I am

How is this possible ?

Because we three are one

^^^ That is creating a scenario . I was trying to elicit an imagination from you in a bid to make you understand what the trinity is all about

3. That's why I preferred the word "entity" , because they exist independently but they share one nature , one divine essence , one mind of purpose and of being but of different individual mind .

None of the three created the other and they are one existing in three forms .

Even man is trinity - the body, soul and spirit - but these exist within one whole . YOU ! But the God trinity exist as three different entities.

So was he talking to Himself ? NO

FrancisTony:

Jesus manifested as both God and man while on earth.

Go figure!

Pr0ton:


One of God's nature is He can't be tempted Num 23:19. But Jesus was someone who was tempted more than once as told in Matt 5. This draws a clear distinction between the person of God (say 'his father') and Jesus (say 'his son') with different nature. So they are different persons. You call the both God, consequently Gods ironically sharing same nature.



These are the words of Jesus himself:

John 17:3,"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God,and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."

Jesus separates himself from God as being the only God. He appears more of an inferior person (like a messenger) who is sent by someone he acknowledges to be the only true God. But you call both God, consequently Gods ironically sharing same nature.



Three entities sharing the same nature, mind, essence and being collectively and saparately called God doesn't change the logic that the three are Gods, since you can separatly call them a God, too.



Besides the part where you failed reality by using one myth to confirm the other, the introduction of man's trinity was also a failure to prove your point. If we accepted man's trinity myth as fact, then according to the myth God would actually be talking to himself. Man's spirit talks itself. It manifests in the body and without it in the body the body is nothing/dead. All thought going on in man is produced by the spirit and the actions this thought results to his done by the spirit through the body. The body is non-living. The spirit is the living thing in it.




Yes if the myth is followed.
No, but to another 'entity' who was also God, consequently Gods.

Pr0ton:


I'm not. It's what the Trinity is.

"...and in their relations with one another, they are stated to beone in all else, co-equal, co-eternal and consubstantial, and each is God, whole and entire"

KingEbukasBlog:


myth ? Oh Jeez I'm arguing with an atheist about the Trinity . You have to be kidding me . Anyways we'll continue this discussion when you become religious - muslim or christian .

I can't deal with your forceful assertions ,false perceptions and misconceptions right now . No no no I don't have that time to waste

Pr0ton:


Jesus separates himself from God as being the only God. He appears more of an inferior person (like a messenger) who is sent by someone he acknowledges to be the only true God. But you call both God, consequently Gods ironically sharing same nature.

KingEbukasBlog:

@ bold this what I'm talking about ... why should I be discussing myths with you ... I thought you are a deist or muslim

KingEbukasBlog:


myth ? Oh Jeez I'm arguing with an atheist about the Trinity . You have to be kidding me . Anyways we'll continue this discussion when you become religious - muslim or christian .

I can't deal with your forceful assertions ,false perceptions and misconceptions right now . No no no I don't have that time to waste

Pr0ton:


If he was God in man while on earth, who was the other God he prayed to?

KingEbukasBlog:



Don't flatter yourself , your questions are not clear enough

1. The first question means you dont understand how three different persons can exist as one . Entities mean existing independently . Meaning they can communicate with each other but hey they are one ! Because they share one God-nature . It is

2. I was trying to introduce flair responding to your question . I created a scenario,which was :

Who is God ?

The Father says I am

The Son says I am

The Holy Spirit says I am

How is this possible ?

Because we three are one

^^^ That is creating a scenario . I was trying to elicit an imagination from you in a bid to make you understand what the trinity is all about

3. That's why I preferred the word "entity" , because they exist independently but they share one nature , [b]one divine essence[/] , one mind of purpose and of being but of different individual mind .

None of the three created the other and they are one existing in three forms .

Even man is trinity - the body, soul and spirit - but these exist within one whole . YOU ! But the God trinity exist as three different entities .

So was he talking to Himself ? NO

Jozzy4:


, you wnt to run away because he is hammering the point that you profess 3 Gods

Evidence of three GODS :

God the Father is DIFFERENT from God the son , and this two are different from God the holyspirit ? Yes or no

Pr0ton:



You'll never have the time to because you'll never be able to prove it, but cite your reasons from papers, which is no near rational to convince another.

Arguing with a Muslim and a Deist won't change the argument (afterall I agreed to share the same belief of man's trinity with you)

So I'll take that as a run-away.

KingEbukasBlog:


@bold This is another misconception - its called Arianism .

SonOfEl:


God is A (not two or three) Spirit as seen in John 4:24, he is the holy and eternal spirit that fathered and dwelt in a tabernacle he made for humanity's redemption (the man Christ) (Matthew 1:18, 2Corinthian 5:19). He filled his fullness into Christ (john 3:33-34, Colossians 2:9), that is he said " this is my beloved son, IN whom I am well pleased". God is the Holy Spirit, father of Jesus Christ ( Matthew 1:18). Jesus is called God because according to him if you see him, you have seen the father (meaning Gods fullness without measure dwells omnipresently INSIDE him also) (John 14:1- 10). Jesus is God becausing the the Father dwells fully in him, and also, he comes in his father's name- Jesus (meaning Jehovah-saviour) (John 5:43).

The Elohim Spirit being, manifests himself in 3 redemptive offices- Father (in creation), Son (in salvation), Holy Spirit (in empowerment and regeneration). I am a son, a husband, and a schoolteacher, it does not make me 3 persons in 1, rather, it makes me one person manifesting my 3fold obligations as a son, husband, and teacher. See 1Timothy 3:16.

"Let us make man in our own image" is God speaking to his ministering spirits I.e. ANGELS. Genesis 11and 2Chronicles 18:18-22 also shows God speaking to his angelic host as " let us". Angels DID NOT create man, But they ministered to God while he was creating man, Genesis 1:28 says "and God created man in HIS ( not THEIR) own image ( i.e. spirit being), male and female made HE ( not THEY) them. God ALONE created man, while angels ministered (attended) to his needs while he was creating man. God carries his angelic host along in whatever he does, they are his ministers (attendants).

In essence, God is ONE SPIRIT, ONE LORD, made manifest in three ways in his omnipresent ability, NOT THREE PERSONS COMING TOGETHER AS ONE GOD.

I recommend this book: SCRIPTURES MISUSED IN CHRISTENDOM. Volume 1: The Godhead, By CHIKA CHRISTIAN or call 08060411271, 07056368705 for a copy.

FrancisTony:

Have you heard of Divinity of Christ?
He existed in two forms both human & divine.
While praying to God, He was manifesting in His human form to show example to mankind.
His human form prayed to God.
His human form ate.
His human form slept.
His human form endured pains.
His human form cried.

But His form as God healed the sick, bestowed power & authorities to heal, perform miracles et al to/on mankind.

chuna1985:


Jesus was praying to God because he was a mere man...
Paul said in d bible - Jesus is a man chosen by God.

dolphinheart:


Another version again,@ KingEbukasBlog, do you agree with the bold above?.