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Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by awesome11(m): 3:48pm On Nov 08, 2015
donnffd:


Please tell me, have you seen anything supernatural with your own eyes before?, I am not talking about faith, o mean things that defy physics and laws of nature? Please if u have,explain it in clear terms

Yea, I have seen supernatural things happen with "my own eyes". April 12, 2012 remains a day I will never forget in a jiffy.
.There I was at Oja--Oba, Akure as relatively new resident of the city. I was duped by fraudsters but not without them performing feats I consider supernatural.

My knowledge of Physics was bastardized. They kept a stone in my left hand and before I knew it, I saw it in my right hand. They demanded I drop my phone and wallet on the floor and right in front of my eyes, I saw it disappear.

These things are real.There's a reason every tribe believes in the supernatural!
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by awesome11(m): 3:51pm On Nov 08, 2015
donnffd:


Lol, dreams?... Dogs have dreams, dolphins have dreams,its a product of a working brain...and before you talk about the one time you dreamt about something and it came to pass, think abt the thousands of times u dreamt and woke up and felt it was meaningless...

What evidence have you that dogs and dolphins dream?
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by anthon47(m): 3:51pm On Nov 08, 2015
IF YOU SAYS OR BELIEVE THERE IS NO GOD WHY CAN'T THE Atheist PROVE BEYOND DOUBT WHEN THE EARTH COMES INTO EXISTENCE AND ASK THEM Why there is death for all human being and yet no body knows the day of his death even this atheist
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by awesome11(m): 3:58pm On Nov 08, 2015
donnffd:


I am not comparing myself with anything,I am just telling you reality,if you don't believe me,Google it,there is nothing supernatural abt dreams,its just chemical processes in the brain,I advice you to Google on these things and stop believing fairytale...

As to how we got here, science explains dat perfectly

By the way, it's crazy if you assume Google answers to life issues are the ultimate truth. A reply to a query sent to Google server isn't a note of finality to constructive arguments.

Yea, Science explains some things as well as it has been dumbfounded about other more pressing issues of our existence!
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by awesome11(m): 4:00pm On Nov 08, 2015
cold:
Funny how these theists go to such great lengths to defend the existence of their god and fight his battles. If your god is all he is cracked up to be he surely doesn't need you or anyone else for that matter to stand in his defense. Unless of course your sky daddy is exactly what he is,a figment of the believer's imagination. Then one has to struggle continuously to keep up appearances. Put those who refuse to tow the same path down. Make them feel inferior simply because they choose to ask questions about this so called almighty god that has refused to make himself/herself/itself known to all and put an end to all the doubts and questioning.
I've just about had it up to here with these opinionated god's foot soldiers,minions and their shenanigans trying to foist their medieval beliefs down our throats. I want to speak to the man in charge. If your god does exist go fetch him for me and let's have a proper sit down. And please don't tell me to go seek for him,i haven't got the patience for frivolities. Let me reiterate for emphasis,got get this god from where ever he is hiding and bring him out in the open. I've got a few things i'd like to get off my chest.

Rants of a fool. His presence is too much for you to behold!
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by awesome11(m): 4:03pm On Nov 08, 2015
cold:

Is that too much to ask for from an almighty omni..omni god?




...And how are these any proof of your god? Are the hurricanes,tornadoes,tsunamis,cancer,ebola etc proof of your god too?

I don't get you. Do you intend to ask if Pollution, Cancer after exposure to radiation, global warming are the proof of the brilliance of man?
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by keenn: 4:06pm On Nov 08, 2015
PLANETMARS:
ur question was what I could do that a dog can't. Mr I have answered u no use english cover am.

Can u imagine!

The examples u gave were so hilarious.

I am sure ur grandparent cannot operate a phone, and neither can they build a bridge, does that make them less human?

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Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:10pm On Nov 08, 2015
plaetton:


Gosh!

You, and those of you who believe and throw it about, ought to define it properly for us.

No ... you have been deriding this concept for a long time meaning you have your own definition that makes you think it is irrational to know such exists . Tell us your definition . Really expecting your reply
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by tajudeent: 4:10pm On Nov 08, 2015
jaytee01:
So what about those people who fervently pray to him and serve him but are facing daily calamities like those in the boko haram enclave?

Are they not worthy of salvation and security? Do they deserve their fate?

If I can answer this. Whatever trial man faces fall in two categories. Test and punishment. If a man serve God how he knows best and becomes rich or poor or sick. He is being tested either way. A man of God will embrace both as same.

On the other side, if he refuses to serve God, he may become rich or poor, which to him is a punishment although poverty may make him change his ways.
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by tajudeent: 4:15pm On Nov 08, 2015
awesome11:


Rants of a fool. His presence is too much for you to behold!

That's the truth
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by donnffd(m): 4:18pm On Nov 08, 2015
awesome11:


By the way, it's crazy if you assume Google answers to life issues are the ultimate truth. A reply to a query sent to Google server isn't a note of finality to constructive arguments.

Yea, Science explains some things as well as it has been dumbfounded about other more pressing issues of our existence!

Google doesn't answer questions, it points you to sites that have done researches on the subject matter or blogs talking abt the subject...who ever said Google was the finality?... Google is becoming a new word for search the Internet and dats wat I meant here by saying Google these things

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Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by donnffd(m): 4:20pm On Nov 08, 2015
awesome11:


Yea, I have seen supernatural things happen with "my own eyes". April 12, 2012 remains a day I will never forget in a jiffy.
.There I was at Oja--Oba, Akure as relatively new resident of the city. I was duped by fraudsters but not without them performing feats I consider supernatural.

My knowledge of Physics was bastardized. They kept a stone in my left hand and before I knew it, I saw it in my right hand. They demanded I drop my phone and wallet on the floor and right in front of my eyes, I saw it disappear.

These things are real.There's a reason every tribe believes in the supernatural!

And you haven't heard of illusionists?

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Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by awesome11(m): 4:23pm On Nov 08, 2015
donnffd:


And you haven't heard of illusionists?

What makes the illusion look real are very much supported by spiritual entities.
Now,educate me. How does illusion work?
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by plaetton: 4:27pm On Nov 08, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


No ... you have been deriding this concept for a long time meaning you have your own definition that makes you think it is irrational to know such exists . Tell us your definition . Really expecting your reply

Upside down logic.

I have been deriding the word because none of you have had the common sense to even define it, ..apparently because it always seem to be the fine bus stop for you folks, the final point at which common sense, logic and the laws of mathematics should not apply.
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by donnffd(m): 4:29pm On Nov 08, 2015
awesome11:

Yea, Science explains some things as well as it has been dumbfounded about other more pressing issues of our existence!

You know, 2000years ago people taught earth was the center of the universe, 500 years ago science just answered the question of what goes up must come down in the form of gravity, a 200years ago,science answered the question of life's diversity and ecological distribution in the form of evolution, 100years ago,science answered the question about the constant speed of light in a vacuum and the underlining mechanisms of gravity in the form of the theories of relativity, less than 50years ago,science discovered that the universe had a beginning and it started 13.7billion years ago evidently shown from the cosmic microwave background. Science is evolving, it hasn't answered all our questions, but as long as there are curious minds with a scientific procedures, we would finally get those answers not by believing in some fairytale God but through observation and experimentation

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Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by awesome11(m): 4:35pm On Nov 08, 2015
donnffd:


Google doesn't answer questions, it points you to sites that have done researches on the subject matter or blogs talking abt the subject...who ever said Google was the finality?... Google is becoming a new word for search the Internet and dats wat I meant here by saying Google these things

And that's the point. Google helps to get response on our search strings and those webpages it returns are opinions of men placed on the internet. Google up this thread topic and I'm sure this webpage should prompt up in one of the links and that does not affirm the verity of the opinions on the page.

Know this. Spiritual themes are not one research centres claim to have total authority on. The best they do is to keep exploring topics and try giving explanations someone will surely pronounce vague. This is so because spiritual questions get inexhaustible response. The Fagunwas, W.A Balis and Tozers know this!
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by ebbyneza(m): 4:37pm On Nov 08, 2015
donnffd:


Lol...that's hilarious, how do u know it was the face of Jesus?, have u seen Jesus before? Apart from the popular image that is
Well I saw it and I know its not physics
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by awesome11(m): 4:39pm On Nov 08, 2015
donnffd:


You know, 2000years ago people taught earth was the center of the universe, 500 years ago science just answered the question of what goes up must come down in the form of gravity, a 200years ago,science answered the question of life's diversity and ecological distribution in the form of evolution, 100years ago,science answered the question about the constant speed of light in a vacuum and the underlining mechanisms of gravity in the form of the theories of relativity, less than 50years ago,science discovered that the universe had a beginning and it started 13.7billion years ago evidently shown from the cosmic microwave background. Science is evolving, it hasn't answered all our questions, but as long as there are curious minds with a scientific procedures, we would finally get those answers not by believing in some fairytale God but through observation and experimentation

I'm sure we will definitely wait till sempiternity before science sufficiently answer my questions on Reincarnation!
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by cold(m): 4:40pm On Nov 08, 2015
awesome11:


Rants of a fool. His presence is too much for you to behold!
Let me worry about that. You just get on with the task of fetching him from where ever he is hiding.

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Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by donnffd(m): 4:40pm On Nov 08, 2015
awesome11:


And that's the point. Google helps to get response on our search strings and those webpages it returns are opinions of men placed on the internet. Google up this thread topic and I'm sure this webpage should prompt up in one of the links and that does not affirm the verity of the opinions on the page.

Know this. Spiritual themes are not one research centres claim to have total authority on. The best they do is to keep exploring topics and try giving explanations someone will surely pronounce vague. This is so because spiritual questions get inexhaustible response. The Fagunwas, W.A Balis and Tozers know this!

Bottom line, Dogs dream, I don't know where you want to go and find it out, but it is as certain as the air we breathe that dogs dream

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Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:42pm On Nov 08, 2015
plaetton:


Upside down logic.

I have been deriding the word because none of you have had the common sense to even define it, ..apparently because it always seem to be the fine bus stop for you folks, the final point at which common sense, logic and the laws of mathematics should not apply.


But you guys cling to luck or chance when the aforementioned could not be applied . I remember vividly , you once claimed energy is self existent when energy is supposedly eternal .

The Supernatural is expected to intervene in the laws of nature - tweak , configure , disobey , defy - because it is above it . Please how is it irrational ?
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by donnffd(m): 4:42pm On Nov 08, 2015
awesome11:


I'm sure we will definitely wait till sempiternity before science sufficiently answer my questions on Reincarnation!

Are you purposely torturing me or what? Reincarnation? Mehn u need help dude...
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by plaetton: 5:03pm On Nov 08, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


But you guys cling to luck or chance when the aforementioned could not be applied . I remember vividly , you once claimed energy is self existent when energy is supposedly eternal .

The Supernatural is expected to intervene in the laws of nature - tweak , configure , disobey , defy - because it is above it . Please how is it irrational ?

Lol.

We know that energy can only be converted from one form to another.
No one , no process creates or synthesizes energy.
Therefore, energy qualifies to be described as self-existent in the true sense if the Word.

Energy is not a mystery.
We know it's various forms, we know its various frequencies, we can capture, measure and store it.

Now, How does energy compare with your so-called supernatural?

What exactly is supernatural, except an ambiguous, meaningless word used by dumb people to explain away any and everything they don't know or incapable of understanding.

Johnnydon22 opened a thread on this same issue of invoking magic to rationlize ignorance today.

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Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by plaetton: 5:12pm On Nov 08, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


But you guys cling to luck or chance when the aforementioned could not be applied . I remember vividly , you once claimed energy is self existent when energy is supposedly external

But there is such a thing as chance.

When you roll a dice, there is a Chance that any of the 6 sides would come up.
Not so ?
In human affairs, the word luck is simply substituted for chance.

So, chance and luck are real quantities.

Now, I ask you again, what is the meaning of supernatural ,and how does it interface with and affect chance or luck?
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by Weah96: 5:19pm On Nov 08, 2015
sonOfLucifer:
[size=18pt]A. wifi no be juju. [/size]
B. men have walked on mars.
C. You understand the world better than all the authors of the Bible put together.


God and his many variants will continue to hide behind man's ignorance.

True that. I'm still amazed at the wonder of ordinary phone calls.
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by Chd12(m): 5:26pm On Nov 08, 2015
nice argument guys. but lemme quickly ask this question... if God doesn't exist I guess Satan don't exist ko?
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:29pm On Nov 08, 2015
plaetton:


Lol.

We know that energy can only be converted from one form to another.
No one , no process creates or synthesizes energy.
Therefore, energy qualifies to be described as self-existent in the true sense if the Word.

Energy is not a mystery.
We know it's various forms, we know its various frequencies, we can capture, measure and store it.Now, How does energy compare with your so-called supernatural?

But what is energy ?

I mean we all know that its a property of anything that exists in our material universe . So if energy is self existent in what form did it exist as ?

What exactly is supernatural, except an ambiguous, meaningless word used by dumb people to explain away any and everything they don't know or incapable of understanding.

Am not sure physics has yet grabbed the concept of energy so lets say that supernatural's ambiguous meaning is because man has not totally understood how it works . You just asserted that energy is self existent because it is logical .

Here is my view about Energy , not a scientific one . You know its amazing energy "shares" some characteristics with God

I posted this sometime . Tell me what you think

KingEbukasBlog:




Ever thought of energy as inherent in God's nature ?

"Energy cannot be created or destroyed " - God has always been existing

"Everything is made up of Energy" - Omnipresence - a nature of God : Being everywhere at once

But wait Energy ≠ God but Energy ∈ God

My opinion in respect to our material universe

Look at that pic . The passage of that property/constituent to life


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Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by hahn(m): 5:31pm On Nov 08, 2015
Weah96:


True that. I'm still amazed at the wonder of ordinary phone calls.

God did it grin

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Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by silentachieverr(m): 5:34pm On Nov 08, 2015
Let me just drop this here

Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by rosalieene(f): 5:35pm On Nov 08, 2015
paranorman:

well, good for you. I am also a believer.
You gotta understand the mind of athiests:
just as you have strongg convictions about the existence of God, their mind is as dynamic as yours is as a believer, it is just in reverse! So sometimes, its baseless to argue with'em..

yea..... that's true
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by plaetton: 5:39pm On Nov 08, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


But what is energy ?

I mean we all know that its a property of anything that exists in our material universe . So if energy is self existent in what form did it exist as ?



Am not sure physics has yet grabbed the concept of energy so lets say that supernatural's ambiguous meaning is because man has not totally understood how it works . You just asserted that energy is self existent because it is logical .

Here is my view about Energy , not a scientific one . You know its amazing energy "shares" some characteristics with God

I posted this sometime . Tell me what you think



.

Again, dumb African with the prelediction to substitute the known and understood with the magical and mumbo jumbo.

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Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:50pm On Nov 08, 2015
plaetton:


Again, dumb African with the prelediction to substitute the known and understood with the magical and mumbo jumbo.

No problem .

But you still haven't told me what energy is , not the elementary definition , and in what form it existed after its self existence .

Any mathematical proof for the self existence of energy?

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