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Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by yhemsy62(m): 12:36pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
He should go to d senate to tender it not social media. 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by grandstar(m): 12:37pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Illegal refineries depend on stealing crude oil. Their business would collapse if they paid market prices for the crude oil. Ben Murray Bruce has not done his research at all 2 Likes |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by 2rutalk1: 12:37pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
dustydee: Why are most Nigerians so shallow in reasoning. The Senator said such businesses should be licensed. Now these guys have the skills whereas our government cannot refine the product optimally, why not train them, equip them, monitor them and give them necessary support to become useful in the downstream sector. Some of you should make out time to study the economies of the Asian Tigers to understand how they grew economically. We are selfish in this country honestly. 2 Likes |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by BABANGBALI: 12:38pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
[quote author=roxell120 post=40113554]CAN SOMEONE READ THIS WITH ME BIKONU. WAS UR KEYBOARD UPSIDEDOWN WHILE U TYPED OR ARE U THIS CLUELESS?[/quoteyou do not legalize what is illegal,what you do is,you legalize what is illegal to make it legal |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by cirmuell(m): 12:39pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
richidinho:yeah, it's all fun until stuffs start blowing up in people's faces. I wonder why Nigerians mumu like this. You dumbasses seems to have forgotten so soon what a badly refined Kerosene did to people's lives in the past. Werey people too plenty 4 this forum I swear 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by XBLadez: 12:40pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
The terrorist president would never think of that |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by openmine(m): 12:43pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
double0seven:I don't think he is defending their act,on the contrary,he is only praising their commitment and suggests that such refineries be encouraged rather than closing them down... I think you missed the part where he requested that they sud not only be legalized but also assisted ...in other words,after being licenced, such local refineries can have access to crude oil legally....not forgetting the part where such products have to be inspected and confirmed ok for use.. In my opinion,its a gud idea...considering the fact that our so called refineries that are expected to do the same 'job' is now used as a political tool.... 3 Likes |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by dustydee: 12:45pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
2rutalk1:If they are licensed, they will go out of business because it won't be profitable. The cost of buying crude, lab tests, optimising production, taking care of the environment, salaries etc. All these will bring you to what the government has already done by licensing modular refineries which have not yet taken off. 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by Nobody: 12:45pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Vicboi1: Very stup!d idea. You people support anything said against the federal govt. just because of hate. ILLEGAL REFINARY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 80% POLLUTION IN NIGER DELTA. ILLEGALLY REFINED PRODUCT DESTROYS ENGINE COS ITS NOT PROPERLY REFINED. My brother, u a fo0l just like Ben Murray. 2 Likes |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by chiddye(m): 12:47pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Ben Bruce is a hundred percent correct on this, until we start enabling this illegal refinery I don't see how we could get out of this quagmire called fuel scarcity the fg stand on destroying illegal refinery is to just keep the youth out of jobs and make the rich richer and the poor poorer, can't commonsense enter those people in power, american oil sector is driven by small scale refineries that has enable growth on their economy....,but Nigerian elite would prefer to export jobs abroad and keep long queue on our road with stolen funds in their bank account than empower the people |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by chiddye(m): 12:51pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
theshield: he said they should bring them up to standard. thereby equipping them to provide for their locality, this would drive job creation and economic growth rather than bringing fuel from sao tome where all this big politicians built their personal refinery |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by saviour1(m): 12:52pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
segtak25:i agree with him |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by Nobody: 12:52pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
illegal refineries do not produce quality PMS ,and they are the ones running away from the government when it comes to registration and prefer illegality so as to make a lot of gains they don't want to be taxed #OlodoMurray 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by 9jatatafo(m): 12:53pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
I think it would be nice for PMB to call all the illegal refineries operators and open a technical village to harness their skills for national interest 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by Nobody: 12:54pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
at this stage we need it. 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by richidinho(m): 12:55pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
cirmuell: lol...wiseman by December you are 42, if you know what i mean
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Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by CARLOSZ: 12:56pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
E360dg: Well, I accept that I'm wrong and thanks for the correction but I still think there are better ways to send his thought to the FG or better still raise the issue in the senate chamber instead of telling us on social media. He's a senator and not a twitter director. #peace Posted By: Bobby Carlos: www.nairaland.com/attachments/3070524_img20151113154001_jpeg1951868ff5bb6a44e07e675f73387a0d 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by cirmuell(m): 12:57pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
2rutalk1:lol you're the one shallow in reasoning bro. The FG should legalize and give out licences to crude oil thieves so they can churn out substandard products abi? They have skills? What can they do that the qualified and highly trained engineers and expats. can't do?. This is like saying the FG should sack all medical doctors in the country and employ herbalists in their stead. Your own pass shallow reasoning, you no dey reason at all 2 Likes |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by CARLOSZ: 12:58pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
chi4ik4: Yes, Nigeria witnessed much worse situations when that clueless Otuoke tree was planted in Aso rock. And don't call me dullard no more, I didn't insult you. Thanks Posted By: Bobby Carlos: www.nairaland.com/attachments/3070524_img20151113154001_jpeg1951868ff5bb6a44e07e675f73387a0d 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by Yerwa: 12:59pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
people should know that operators of these illegal refineries have no regard for the pollution and degradation they cause to the environment, in addition the quality of the products they produce is not optimal for smooth engine operations. to build a refinery is a highly regulated and technical activity, you cannot just open one the way you would open a workshop or a mill, before a refinery is setup environmental impact assessment (EIA) tests are done to ascertain what impact the refinery will have on the environs, in fact some of this crude oil have poisonous substances in them which are just left to go into the atmosphere (eg sulphur), source and grade of the crude oil it will refine, these and many more are required to set it up, to regularize their activity would mean that we are okay with a polluted environment. Ben Bruce should do research on this. 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by double0seven(m): 12:59pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Holyman3: Youth of nowadays! is not better to listen and learn to than show ignorance. You think these refineries produce good products Their products are badly refined; no tests, no quality control etc. Where do you think things like kerosine explosion comes from? And diesel and petrol that spoils engine comes from? Please think before you talk. 2 Likes |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by Nobody: 1:00pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
how do government start legalizing them,they want to be invisible they hide in the creeks of Niger Delta,as a fed lawmaker Mr Ben it is your mandatory duty to inform your constituents on the need to legalize their factories,that's if you don't operate any |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by ogunsbanjul(m): 1:01pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
I think Ben Bruce is a learnt and a legislator who should know what to say. Honestly, this man has lost his integrity ever since he came on board as a politician. He should have made this proposal when his brother GEJ was the president. After all they do destroy illegal refineries then. Investigation should be carried out on him as one of the sponsors of illegal refineries in the Niger Delta. Anti government legislator |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by 400billionman: 1:01pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Vicboi1: Nigeria is a funny country that kills indigenous technology. Govt cannot run a refinery yet they arrest those who can and prosecute them. 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by StarMogul(m): 1:02pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
CARLOSZ:Bros u funny ohhh,now he said u r rebuking him am pretty sure dat if he said it den u wud do d same... |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by richidinho(m): 1:03pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
CARLOSZ: You are busy insulting GEJ. u better repent |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by Dpearlz: 1:04pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
First and foremost, I will say I am happy with him because he is one of a few nigerian who brainstorms and seeks for ways to improve the lives of others. Secondly, His Idea has some good side and some bad side. The good side is it will enable the increase in supply of a product with very high demand and supply margins in Nigeria, it will be the first step to implement indigenous local refineries and will also be a means to allow massive unemployed and poor people to create jobs and make money to sustain themselves and their family. The bad sides are, this could increase pipe line vandalism, this could also put the region at risk because this crude oil and its distilled products are highly inflammable thus it is a national disaster waiting to happen. Also, there are pollution concerns as the residues from the distillation process can be dumped indiscriminately in nearby water bodies and harm the aquatic and other animals that depend on these water bodies to survive. Now looking at the bad side, there are solutions to a few of them. Firstly, the product monitoring agencies (assuming no corruption) can be used to randomly check the octane rating of fuel produced through this process to ensure that they are suitable for cars, the pipeline monitoring should be more automated with perpetrators identified and arrested, the waste are also useful thus can be bought by companies making engine oil, carbon black for tires and road construction companies. Thus the only problem is the fire hazard risk involved, now will that be enough to allow them to be legal or not? I don't know. Please feel free to counter or support this. it is already a debate. 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by Serendip: 1:07pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
hassan85: He's always saying #commonsense yet he comes across as someone bereft of any political sense, which is so disheartening I must say. 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by oake(m): 1:09pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
CARLOSZ: You de show urself abi? Wetin concern GEJ concern the common sense when dis man de talk? Are you living in the past? Why destroy illegal refineries if you can set up agencies to regulate and collect taxes. What's more, you ease the acute fuel situation and create employment for the teeming masses by so doing. Use ur common sense bro, though it's not common! |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by xxgig(m): 1:09pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
I doubt if this man knows what a refinery is. |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: FG Should Legalize Illegal Refineries - Murray-Bruce by sapientia(m): 1:10pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Wrong Wrong Wrong... Illegal is illegal oga.. Talk about harnessing their ingenuity.. Using the technology therein to the advantage of Nigeria.. |
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