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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by Nobody: 9:02am On Nov 30, 2015
Thank You sir.

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by zantkjack: 9:03am On Nov 30, 2015
Sir you have said it all. I hope the Muslim elite in the north will not pick offence on this facts but have a sober reflection on where they have gone wrong by deceiving the 99% Muslim illiterates in the north. They make sure their poor people are not educated so that they become easy tools to be deceived using religion for them to achieve their selfish interest. They are the major players that have been ruling this country for years and controlling it resources but never thought of providing their people with free education or establishing almajiris school. Jonathan in his church mind provided almajiri school for the north to help them acquired education even at the expense of his people down south but the same elites sabotage the effort. What a shame. There is God ooooooooh. All of us will one day die and go back to give account of our stewardship in this world alone to our maker the almighty God. No imams who deceived you in the world will be there to defend you because he himself will have to defend himself. We have two boko haram operating in Nigeria the actual boko haram and those answering Fulani herdsmen. God is watching!!!!!!. Very soon he will vent his anger on these perpetrators.

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by adekaz777: 9:03am On Nov 30, 2015
Am a muslim,terrorism is purely anti-islam but the northwestern elites used their brothers & innocent souls as sacrifice to regain the power that they believe is their birthright,now bokoharam has now degenerated beyond their control.When the menace started,i can categorically say that 60% of northern muslims were in support even the incumbent president BUHARI.After each bombing some of them will make jest of GEJ & we that voted for him, even after prayer at mosque.I reside in abuja & i av been to all states of federation. Its unfortunate that they put nigeria in a problem that only God can assist us. PMB taught it will be a easy thing to quench that's why he gave deadline of two months during the campaign not knowing that boko haram has been hijacked by other ppl he don't know.He has given another deadline of december, i pray it works. Boko haram is conspiracy of the northern elites to wrestle power from southerner, unfortunately some southerners fell for conspiracy ignorantly & some for economic benefit.

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by salam1(m): 9:05am On Nov 30, 2015
cbjonstage:

Fr. Mbaka has no iota of truth on political problms surrounding northerners. if truly dis is coming from Kukah, i believe him
u want u beleive him Since he has said wat u want to hear.
Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by Emyogalanya: 9:06am On Nov 30, 2015
studio14:
Matthew said what Mbaka cannot say, although Mbaka they said is an APC member and he will context in 2019. Being an APC member means you will never say the truth.
as usual i expect mbaka or another christian cleric to counter him you will even see christians blaming themselves and the church for boko haram

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by Whynotthetruth(m): 9:07am On Nov 30, 2015
“Now, I hear Muslims in northern Nigeria hiding under the cover of the facts by saying: ‘These Boko Haram people are not Muslims. They do not represent us’. Well, first, they are your own children. You must take responsibility for what has made them what they are today and to the rest of society. They claim they have been inspired by the Quran and no other holy book. They say they want to build an Islamic state. So, they are Muslims. After all, from the debates of the Constituent Assemblies of 1979, 1988, and 1995 and beyond, did their fathers and grandfathers not stage walkouts, demanding Sharia Law? Was it not to tame them that President Ibrahim Babangida declared what he called ‘no-go areas’ in the debates about our constitution? “The promise to institute Sharia has become the most potent tool for political mobilisation and organisation

These facts especially BOLDED point first and foremost to BUHARI before other Northern elites...Cc. Mizmycoli, Ngeneukwenu, Gbawe, Passingshot ...

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by kingslly(m): 9:07am On Nov 30, 2015
charix:
The time for blame was over since 2010. Now is the time to come together and create a solution.
Nigerians love to either sit down and throw blames or fold their hands in prayer rather than moving to action.
u have to find out the fault first before u start fixing the problem.
Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by chachanga: 9:09am On Nov 30, 2015
NinaArsenal:
No weapon formed against the children of the most shall prosper. Angel michael sword go just begin they slice them 1 by 1.

wey d sword?
Nina baby, abeg u go help me borrow that Sword
Me and Badoo get fight 2moro and I nor wan lose my b@lls dis xmas grin grin

But, seriously, the inhumanity of Northern leaders at allowing so much bloodshed is just too appalling.
Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by Zetra(m): 9:10am On Nov 30, 2015
ndcide:
We've seen how some people go scientific about bokoharam, some of the will tell you there were no tools to fight, just for partisan reasons. We all know that it was a religious / political fight against the man in power.

What did the former president not do?, is it almajiri schools, federal University, funding, state of emergency in a affected areas, meetings with northern elders, proposal of amnesty? Meeting with leaders of neighbouring countries, assistance from the international community? Name it...

Like I said God will be the one to judge this matter.

GEJ even pump billions into structural/mechanised agriculture into the region too...

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by emmywhite01(m): 9:11am On Nov 30, 2015
ArcIbrahim38:
If ibrahim commit a crime islam is blamed while if Paul commits a crime Paul is blame.........Islamaphobia

The is because Paul doesn't use his religion as d basis of him committing d crime but Ibrahim will always use his religion as d basis for his crime

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by Ahmeduana(m): 9:12am On Nov 30, 2015
yhemsy62:
I only accept d fault because we Muslims did not campaign against dis group in d beginning rather we keep mute. Not until now that they have gone beyond what one even imagine
WHEN INFERNO IS CONSUMING YOUR NEIGHBOURS HOUSE AND YOU REFUSE TO JOIN HANDS IN PUTTING OFF THE FIRE, YOU'VE FORGOTTEN THAT YOU WILL BE THE NEXT VICTIM AFTER THE INFERNO MUST HAVE CONSUME YOUR NEIGHBOURS HOUSE, THE FACT IS THAT WHEN THE BOKO HARAM ISSUE STARTED THE HAUSA NORTHERN WERE BECAUSE THEN THE BOKO GUYS WERE KILLING THE POLICE, THE NORTHERN & SOUTHERN CHRISTIANS NOT UNTIL WHEN THE BOKO GUYS START KILLING MUSLIM BEFORE WE NOW SEES IT AS ABOMINATION THE GENOCIDE THAT BOKO HARAM GUYS ARE COMMITING, MY QUESTION TO MY MUSLIM BROTHERS IN THE NORTH IS THAT, WOULDN'T THEY HAVE ACCEPT AND ENDORSE THE ACTIONS OF THIS DISGRUNTLE MANIAC HAD BEEN THEY ARE NOT KILLING THE NORTHERN MUSLIM? We should know that God did not made provision for hypocracy in ISLAM.

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by Nobody: 9:13am On Nov 30, 2015
kingslly:
u have to find out the fault first before u start fixing the problem.
The fault had been recognized since the 2013/2014 international media fiasco, probably before then.
Any more noisemaking on the issue is like pouring gasoline on a burning bush.
Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by Elhabeeb1(m): 9:13am On Nov 30, 2015
I agree with him on the fact that some of the elite campaign on the basis of sharia implementation just to get votes. Although some elements of sharia was implemented it was never real. Kai my people sef, we need to declare state of emergency in education in the whole north.

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by Elan83(m): 9:14am On Nov 30, 2015
charix:
The time for blame was over since 2010. Now is the time to come together and create a solution.
Nigerians love to either sit down and throw blames or fold their hands in prayer rather than moving to action.
wch solution? Solution 2 hausa fulanis? Dz ppl 're d most bckwrd,useless,unrefined,barbaric & senseless ppl in d univrse,, if i'm 2b a boko member,i'll alws kill d rich & elite northerners, not some poor ppl strugglin 2 survive,, Jesus Christ is d Lord of muhamed,,,

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by mannirmusa: 9:15am On Nov 30, 2015
yhemsy62:
I only accept d fault because we Muslims did not campaign against dis group in d beginning rather we keep mute. Not until now that they have gone beyond what one even imagine

You're not a true Muslim, in fact you're a liar, i'll advice you to take your mind back to the memory length to be get inform about the Genesis of Boko haram in Nothern Nigeria and what your called Northern Muslims Elite did against the Menace.

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by Mosh1: 9:17am On Nov 30, 2015
EddyNumerouno:
Dude, how does this man wear pants? I mean his balls must be. Fuc*ing large

The truth is dat we all know Islam is the reason why the north remains under developed, a cancer that has continued to place Nigeria on some very undignified list (illiteracy index, cholera, poverty, vvf, etc).

until the Muslim elite folks at all levels show the same hatred for anti Islam to boko haram, they will continue with this bs.

Islam is never the reason why the north remains under developed but hypocrisy of its elite.Saudi Arabia,Indonesia,Dubai,Bahrain,Qatar etc comes to mind,they are Muslim countries that are far away better than this false entity called Nigeria.It baffle me how Nigerian xtians blame Islam for almost everything.Sorry dude,even your masters(Westerners) cannot halt Islam in any way because it is of God.I can`t rule out the fact that we Muslims of nowadays are Nominal Muslim not Practical Muslim,we don`t practise Islam as it is supposed and that is the reason we are suffering for this but the last time I checked,no one is blaming Christianity for many uncounted wrongs committing by Christians world wide.
They plan and Allah Plan,verily Allah is the best Planner.

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by chrisnero(m): 9:17am On Nov 30, 2015
The Northeners said Goodluck will not sleep during his tenure, tell me,How would Buhari sleep? I pity the northern youths because their Elders have failed them

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by ibitzbarlow(m): 9:18am On Nov 30, 2015
Mkmachika:
To some extent I agree with you, considering your previous contribution to a ''fair play'', and your ability to tell your fellow Christians the truth. I agree with you that Islamic elite of the North use Islam to deceive the Northern masses but where you are wrong is that not all Muslims leaders deceive and Christians leaders are also guilty of deception and commercializing Jesus to amazed wealth.


Kukah you compromise your previous nature of telling the truth as how it is when you bring the issue of forced marriage and kidnapping girls by Boko Haram as part of Islam which is totally lie and you knew it but you say it anyway in your attempt to destroy the Image of Islam.

Kukah what will you say about those Catholics who sleep with male children during former Pope? what will you say about those pastors who constantly rape or have sex with their followers in the name of praying for them?

Keep trying Kukah there is no way you can damage the Image of Islam because Allah promise to protect it and Allah is more powerful than you and your likes, Even the Jesus you people worship is a servant to Allah let alone you. So take care.

Bro, please go through the article again before you criticize the man. For your information, Kukah didn't compromise, he said it the way it is. This is actually a paper he presented in an Islamic conference, so the discuss was on Islam and how to make it better and not on Christianity or any other religion. In that wise, you do not expect him to comment on Christianity or any of the ills/challenges the Christian Faith/Catholics are facing. I believe there will be a forum for that some other day. You only answer the question posed to you and not dabble into issues outside your scope.

He was not out to damage/ destroy the image of Islam as you erroneously posited he was rather making his assertions on how to mitigate against the problems bedevilling Islam in Northern Nigeria.

Understand the message and leave the messenger. You already agreed with him on the real crux of discuss so why the attack on him? One Love bro!

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by roxell120(m): 9:18am On Nov 30, 2015
MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL NORTHERN CHRISTIANS WHO ARE CAUGH UP IN THE WEB OF THIS MEYHEM. PLEASE LETS KEEP PRAYING FOR THEM COS THEY HAVE NO OTHER PLACE TO CALL THEIR HOME

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by tplacid: 9:22am On Nov 30, 2015
SirJeffry:
We know that already Your Lordship.

Though they still live in denial simply because they aren't the victims yet but the poor Northerners, God is already closing in on them.

Very soon, the hunter will be the hunted. From Buhari to IBB to Adamu Ciroma to Senator Ndume, all will hear from God soon.undecided

I can understand If he says northenr elite created boko haram directly or indirectly.

But it's not acceptable if he says bh are Muslims and its quite simple.

Being a Muslim means you submit to the will of Allah and not that of man, hence it follows that you should not kill any innocent soul, 'he that kills a man is like he has killed the whole of humanity, he that saves a man is like he has saved the whole of humanity - Qu'ran

I can't convince anybody that Islam is a peaceful religion, but it's everyone's responsibility to differentiente between what's good and what's bad.

Adolf hitler killed millions of people I don't see anyone calling Christianity a terrorist religion.

Millions of people died during the slave trade that was carried out by British and American But we Muslims no Jesus doesn't stand for oppression

Lastly, most of these clerics that condemn the actions of terrorist that hide under the umbrella of religion never condemn the obvious terrorist act of Israel against Palestinians...it's so bad that most Christian display the flag of Israel on cars, in their house just to show surpport for a nation that invaded another nation unlawfully.

If you condemn BH, ISIS etc you support you Israel then know that someday the world will end and trust me the true one God will judge you accordingly.

Libya, Palentian, Iraq, Afghanistan and so many other Muslims countries and unstable because of the actions of terrorist yet people still think Muslims are terrorist

How can you be the killer and the victim at the same time.

I just hate when people are too sentimental.

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by kunlegboye(m): 9:23am On Nov 30, 2015
yhemsy62:
I only accept d fault because we Muslims did not campaign against dis group in d beginning rather we keep mute. Not until now that they have gone beyond what one even imagine
And silent they say it's consent!......uuuhmmmm

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by Nobody: 9:23am On Nov 30, 2015
Elan83:
wch solution? Solution 2 hausa fulanis? Dz ppl 're d most bckwrd,useless,unrefined,barbaric & senseless ppl in d univrse,, if i'm 2b a boko member,i'll alws kill d rich & elite northerners, not some poor ppl strugglin 2 survive,, Jesus Christ is d Lord of muhamed,,,
Even animals do not engage in actions without reason talk less of humans.
After investigation upon investigation we've known the underlying cause for the existence of boko haram. The problem now is to profer a quick and lasting solution to the menace - that is the part the government finds difficult to think up apart from the option of blowing them to smithereens.
Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by Zetra(m): 9:24am On Nov 30, 2015
obailala:

I remember fr Mbaka preaching that bokoharam is a product of the widespread unemployment of youths and poverty/hunger in the north and he fixed the blame on 'past leaders' (including GEJ) for failing to provide employment; this is the absolute truth.


I wouldn't even blame the present Government if people say they didn't provide jobs for the youth in the North, because if you calculate from Military till democracy you will find out that the North have far far larger benefits in term of politicians that have ruled nigeria...

So ask what have their past leaders/governors/military Heads being doing in terms of improving the lives of people in the North?

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by Nobody: 9:28am On Nov 30, 2015
yhemsy62:
I only accept d fault because we Muslims did not campaign against dis group in d beginning rather we keep mute. Not until now that they have gone beyond what one even imagine
You Muslims kept mute because at the beginning they were bombing churches. Lol... Karma is blind! Doesn't look at nobody!

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by swtclint1(m): 9:30am On Nov 30, 2015
yhemsy62:
I only accept d fault because we Muslims did not campaign against dis group in d beginning rather we keep mute. Not until now that they have gone beyond what one even imagine


Southern Kaduna man"Bishop mathew Hassan kukah" saying d truth.

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Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by samvega: 9:32am On Nov 30, 2015
That’s Vintage Kukah always making intelligent no holds barred analysis, not caring whose ox is gored. But I think we need to stop the blame game and work collectively towards finding a lasting solution. Essentially I see Boko haram is a cult group that has become militarized through the actions and omissions of internal and external forces. Similar Cult groups in other parts of the world were exterminated by timely intervention of security forces well before these groups consolidated and escalated their activities. I think Jim Jones, Branch Davidians, Children of Gods Family international (Google cult groups to learn more) are some of such cult groups which if they had been allowed to proliferate would have spelt similar disaster .
The growth of Boko-Haram can be largely attributed to our intelligence and security flaws as well as our hydra headed monster-corruption. Funds meant to fight Boko Haram were diverted while ill equipped and unmotivated solders were sent to fight a more formidable / suicidal enemy. So while Northern elite and their religious base can be cited as contributory factors the more relevant logic is to collapse all of this into a broader discussion on the failure of the state and proliferation of cult groups in Africa.
Re: "Blame Northern-Nigeria Muslim Elites For Boko Haram" - Bishop Matthew Kukah by ThisMeansWAR: 9:34am On Nov 30, 2015
yhemsy62:
I only accept d fault because we Muslims did not campaign against dis group in d beginning rather we keep mute. Not until now that they have gone beyond what one even imagine
first sane Muslim have come across on nairaland .. Not those that blames everything on america or justify it with christians arr doing the same ..

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