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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Olemi700: 1:50pm On Dec 29, 2015
jaytee01:
cheesy

Niger area that called Nigeria now is a name given by a prostitude flora shaw the girlfriend of a drug addict called Fredrick Lugard, Nigeria is a curse to humanity grin grin grin

Biafra must stand nd Nigeria must divide in Jesus name,..Amen!

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by jaytee01(m): 1:50pm On Dec 29, 2015
Sweetlemon:


Ndoki is NOT one of the Indegenous ethnic groups in Akwa-Ibom. They don't have recognized traditional ttitles and are not active in politics. Igbos in Alaba in Lagos are far more influential than the Ndokis in Akwa-Ibom.
Get that into your skull.
Don't mind that foool with "attachee" mentality.


Let him continue deceiving himself!

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by jaytee01(m): 1:52pm On Dec 29, 2015
Olemi700:


Niger area that called Nigeria now is a name given by a prostitude flora shaw the girlfriend of a drug addict called Fredrick Lugard, Nigeria is a curse to humanity grin grin grin

Biafra must stand nd Nigeria must divide in Jesus name,..Amen!
Nobody is stopping you.
In fact, you are free to leave today with all your brothers, only no attachees

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Olemi700: 1:57pm On Dec 29, 2015
Tripleclick:
IJAW VS IGBOS TWO FOOLISH TRIBES THAT
THINKS THY CAN SURVIVE ON THEIR OWN,
MEANWHILE YORUBA N HAUSA ALIENED
TO KEEP THM AT BAR... SHAME TO U ALL

Cowardly Yoruba tribes, Hausa slave grin grin grin a tribe that can not stand or have a word of their own grin
Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Masterclass32: 1:58pm On Dec 29, 2015
janellemonae:


I believe this too. And i hope it does disintegrate. It wld have happened this year if boko haram didnt start stealing territories. The USA saw an opportunity to kill several birds wt one stone wt the crude oil crises. Now they're concerned abt boko harams islamic caliphate, they've decided to start buying nigerian oil again. Kachikwu announced dt today.

America can't seem to make up their mind as to how they want to relate to Nigeria. One day, they refuse selling weapons to us and discourage any other nation that wants to, the next day they say they are now open to selling to us, that we are their friends.

We ask them for ebola drug since they claimed they had it, they refuse, giving flimsy reasons. When we overcame ebola, they came smiling and saying that it was with their support that we achieved to feat.

Then this oil stuff?

America is giving a new meaning to the word "friendship".
Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Nobody: 1:59pm On Dec 29, 2015
APCcrimesHD:
Why not give them referendum and see where they lie

I don't like the referendum idea. I believe in "if you want it, come get it" get your weapons and engage Nigeria again. This time, we will term it "the return of Biafra" part 2.

Have you heard of Papua?
If you want to know what marginalisation is, google "Papua"

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Dedetwo(m): 2:04pm On Dec 29, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

Your ignorance and greed stink. Our people are very smart we know what you lot(Biafra promoters are up to and we are equal to the task. At present we have over a million Boros, Wiwas and Ejoors.

I have said and will say it again, if the inclusion of the SS is a necessity for Biafra to be achieved then Biafra will never be achieved. You can quote kme anywhere

The spate of ignorance and greed shown on this discussion came from dimwits who do not understand the differences in time or period.
You must delusional to think that any rat from the so-called SS should be included in reconfigured Biafra. The use of the term "Reconfigured Biafra" spoke volume if your smart to comprehend.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Masterclass32: 2:07pm On Dec 29, 2015
Olemi700:




My prayer is for Nigeria to divide coz for hundred years plus now there's nothing to show that we supposed to be together as one, our togetherness did not yield any fruit but always bring sorrowful, pain, dead, backward nd hatred. Britain created Nigeria for their own benefit not for the good of pples living there, I really believed that we will be better if separate, I support Biafra!!

Valid points.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Dedetwo(m): 2:10pm On Dec 29, 2015
nduchucks:


Oga, TonyeBarcanista is very correct in saying that when Ojukwu declared is Biafra, he was Governor of Eastern state that excluded Rivers, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom and Cross river. Old Rivers and Old Cross river were already created by Gowon.


In February 1966, when Isaac Boro, Sam Owonaro and Nottingham Dick alongside their supporters proclaimed a "Delta Peoples Republic", biafra was not included in the said republic. On 27 May 1967, under the administration of General Yakubu Gowon, decree No. 14 was issued, allowing the creation of Rivers State. Ojukwu's Eastern region at the time of "secession" did not include Ijawland or modern day SS area.

The good people of Niger Delta fought alongside gallant Nigerian soldiers to defeat the secessionists. My Gull, there is no need to try to revise history, though we have come to expect that from you.

If you and the likes of Kanu want to lead Igbo youths on another suicide mission, be rest assured that the people of the Niger Delta will fight you once again.

Per the bolded, I could not believe that any Nigerian with limited education can even quote the crap in the above post. Anyway, we are talking about Nigeria, are we not? One wonders who was Mr. Ukpabia Asika the then administrator of east central state. There is doubt Biafra has driven most Nigerians to the state of nincompoop.

Again, Gowon introduced the unitary government in Nigeria by abrogating the regional system of government with quasi-independence and replaced it with state format without quasi-independence. Gowon had no such power to mess with eastern region which did not recognize his usurpation of power hence the civil war.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by ajademola2000(m): 2:15pm On Dec 29, 2015
Tripleclick:
JONATHAN IS LAST PRESIDENT FROM EASTERN REGION.. IJAWS N IGBOS SHUD CONTINUE DRAGGING WITH EACH OTHER.. SLAVERY IS THEIR FATE IN NIGERIA
Ijaw people are not slaves in Nigeria, though I don't know about Igbos

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by nduchucks: 2:16pm On Dec 29, 2015
comrChris:
nduchuks or whatever you call urself stop decieving urself, couple of weeks ago l was in Onitsha and l was opportuned to follow my friends to an lpob meeting and there were large numbers of akwa ibomite,deltans and other ss states in attendance and they were very happy to be part of the movement

pls learn to always use "l" not " we" because you are speaking for yourself alone

I'm not surprised that you found hopeless and jobless people from the areas you mentioned. Poverty no get home town.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by bb6xt(m): 2:16pm On Dec 29, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

Your ignorance and greed stink. Our people are very smart we know what you lot(Biafra promoters are up to and we are equal to the task. At present we have over a million Boros, Wiwas and Ejoors.

I have said and will say it again, if the inclusion of the SS is a necessity for Biafra to be achieved then Biafra will never be achieved. You can quote kme anywhere

Isn't it ironic, or even hypocritical, that the people who are fighting for the right to self determination should at the same time be so violently opposed to another fighting for the same right as they are?

They want their Biafra, great! But why insist on taking SS with you? Doesn't SS have the right to choose different?

I have often observed on this forum, quite surprisingly, that the passion with which pro-Biafrans insist on including SS in their Biafra is even more than that they put into fighting for Biafra itself. Hmm..

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by nduchucks: 2:24pm On Dec 29, 2015
Dedetwo:



Again, Gowon introduced the unitary government in Nigeria by abrogating the regional system of government with quasi-independence and replaced it with state format without quasi-independence. Gowon had no such power to mess with eastern region which did not recognize his usurpation of power hence the civil war.

If you accept Ojukwu as the Chief Executive of the eastern region, then you must also accept Gowon as the supreme head of Nigeria at the time.

You can't eat your cake and have it.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by OrlandoOwoh(m): 2:26pm On Dec 29, 2015
Maser:


Please go back to your history books again. Ojukwu was the Governor of the old Eastern region at the outbreak of hostilities against the Igbos and in order to divide our ranks, Gowon whom Ojukwu refused to recognise as head of state for his seeming complicity in the bloody coup and inability to protect lives attempted to carve out those States you mentioned out of the region.
Of course Ojukwu and your fathers agreed and collectively resisted it, but your fathers chickened out when it seemed things were no longer faring well with the war effort to wit, the liberation of Portharcourt et al.

Let it be well stated that Ojukwu did not unilaterally pull Eastern Nigeria out of Nigeria but held wide consultative meetings with your people before doing so. A certain Philip Effiong was his deputy throughout the war. Just ask your fathers to tell you the truth.

While not a supporter of the current agitation for Biafra, it nauseates me to see people like you turn history on its head. A little research and a bit of objectivity might help you, if you try.
You're wrong. Before the Civil War started on July 6 1967, Gowon created 12 on May 27 1967. The defunct Eastern Region which Ojukwu was Governor of was split into East Central, South Eastern and Rivers states. By implication, Ojukwu was Governor of just the East Central State till he was dismissed and the state came under Ukpabi Asika as the Administrator.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Dedetwo(m): 2:27pm On Dec 29, 2015
ajademola2000:
Ijaw people are not slave in Nigeria, though I don't know about Igbos

They were slaves, European porters from the Akawapim-Togo area and union of slaves and Filipinos and Indians who were shipmates on European ships that visited the coast or Bight of Biafra. The so-called Ijaw are "Boat People" and this term has ominous connotation. The tern, Ijaw, was derived from Portuguese name for those living by the River Banks.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Awoofawo(m): 2:29pm On Dec 29, 2015
Dedetwo:


Per the bolded, I could not believe that any Nigerian with limited education can even quote the crap in the above post. Anyway, we are talking about Nigeria, are we not? One wonders who was Mr. Ukpabia Asika the then administrator of east central state. There is doubt Biafra has driven most Nigerians to the state of nincompoop.

Again, Gowon introduced the unitary government in Nigeria by abrogating the regional system of government with quasi-independence and replaced it with state format without quasi-independence. Gowon had no such power to mess with eastern region which did not recognize his usurpation of power hence the civil war.
Please kai stop re-writing history! Ironsi introduced Unitary Govt. which Gowon chosen to retain!

Some of us on Nairaland are not olodos.... We know a to z about what happened and is still happening in the country. You folks should not twisted a fact that well documented and in public record thank! cool

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Nawa4nl: 2:30pm On Dec 29, 2015

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by jaytee01(m): 2:34pm On Dec 29, 2015
texazzpete:


That, in a nutshell, is exactly where there has not been any Igbo President since forever, and the way things are going, for quite a while to come.

A charismatic leader like Fashola can mobilize a crowd. I need not talk about Buhari's ability to mobilize crowds. Heck, even GEJ has his passionate followers...

No charismatic leader from the SE with national appeal yet it's all too easy to lazily claim 'marginalization' for the reason why a SOuth Easterner isn't in Aso Rock.
Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Nawa4nl: 2:36pm On Dec 29, 2015
ajademola2000:
Ijaw people are not slave in Nigeria, though I don't know about Igbos

NIETHER ARE THE IGBOS SLAVES IN NIGERIA, THATS WHY WE WANT TO LEAVE.

THEY SAY ONE NIGERIA WHEN IT SUITS THEM.

HOW MANY APPOINTMENTS DID THE SOUTH-SOUTH & SOUTH-EAST GET FROM GMB?

NA OUR SENATORS, GOVERNORS & REPS I DEY BLAME FOR KEEPING MUTE!

IF NA GEJ APPOINTMENTS WEY LEAVE OUT THE NORTH, NIJA GO DON HEAR AM!

ANYWAY WE GO SOON WAKA!

WE NO GO DEY NIJA BY FORCE!

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Dedetwo(m): 2:37pm On Dec 29, 2015
nduchucks:


If you accept Ojukwu as the Chief Executive of the eastern region, then you must also accept Gowon as the supreme head of Nigeria at the time.

You can't eat your cake and have it.

You really dropped the ball with such ignorant rant. The bolded is another fallacy seemed to be making dubious rounds. There was a botched coup in July 29, 1966 and participants did not have total control of country except northern region. One of the regional powers insisted that legally established hierarchy must be followed since the whereabouts of head of the state is not known hence Ojukwu vehemently recommended that 2ic should be supreme head of state of Nigeria. Besides, Gowon was an inferior or junior officers to more than fours officers. It was abomination to have an inferior officer dictate to his superiors. Since most Nigerians accepted such idiocy, Nigeria has never seen a bright light and will never see one in future.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Dedetwo(m): 2:46pm On Dec 29, 2015
Awoofawo:
Please kai stop re-writing history! Ironsi introduced Unitary Govt. which Gowon chosen to retain!

Some of us on Nairaland are not olodos.... We know a from z about what happened and is still happening in the country. You folks should not twisted a fact that well documented and in public record thank! cool

Per the bolded, most Nigerians have tendency to regurgitate craps without embarking on simple rudimentary research. I urge you to expose the meaning of the term -unitary as it applies to governance. During the Ironsi's era, there were regional system of government where regions still enjoy certain level of autonomous powers as under Tafawa Balewa. Such autonomous entity to the regions was destroyed by the idiotic state creation by Gowon when states did no longer enjoy the autonomous entity under the premier or even regional military administrators. Ojukwu's refusal to accept Gowon as head of state is such autonomous privilege enjoyed by the regions.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Dedetwo(m): 2:58pm On Dec 29, 2015
OrlandoOwoh:

You're wrong. Before the Civil War started on July 6 1967, Gowon created 12 on May 27 1967. The defunct Eastern Region which Ojukwu was Governor of was split into East Central, South Eastern and Rivers states. By implication, Ojukwu was Governor of just the East Central State till he was dismissed and the state came under Ukpabi Asika as the Administrator.

Per the bolded, this is another ill-informed statement. Again, Gowon had no such powers to abrogate eastern region. It takes constitutional amendment to do such thing. In addition, eastern region did not recognize Gowon as anything other than leader of coup plotters of July 29, 1966. When Gowon foolishly divided Nigeria into 12 states, he also appointed military, police and civilian administrators which Asika was for east central state. Gowon ordered the administrators to report their posts immediately to state governance duties. It must be recall that those jokers appointed to take charge of the so-called states in eastern region the did not show up to their post until after civil war.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by chiedu7: 2:58pm On Dec 29, 2015
Nawa4nl:


NIETHER ARE THE IGBOS SLAVES IN NIGERIA, THATS WHY WE WANT TO LEAVE.

THEY SAY ONE NIGERIA WHEN IT SUITS THEM.

HOW MANY APPOINTMENTS DID THE SOUTH-SOUTH & SOUTH-EAST GET FROM GMB?

NA OUR SENATORS, GOVERNORS & REPS I DEY BLAME FOR KEEPING MUTE!

IF NA GEJ APPOINTMENTS WEY LEAVE OUT THE NORTH, NIJA GO DON HEAR AM!

ANYWAY WE GO SOON WAKA!

WE NO GO DEY NIJA BY FORCE!

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by OrlandoOwoh(m): 3:04pm On Dec 29, 2015
Dedetwo:


Per the bolded, this is another ill-informed statement. Again, Gowon had no such powers to abrogate eastern region. It takes constitutional amendment to do such thing. In addition, eastern region did not recognize Gowon as anything other than leader of coup plotters of July 29, 1966. When Gowon foolishly divided Nigeria into 12 states, he also appointed military, police and civilian administrators which Asika was for east central state. Gowon ordered the administrators to report their posts immediately to state governance duties. It must be recall that those jokers appointed to take charge of the so-called states in eastern region the did not show up to their post until after civil war.
Constitution in a military regime? You must be confused.

The creation of new states was welcomed by those that clamoured for it hence their being arrested by Ojukwu after May 27 1967.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by MadCow1: 3:11pm On Dec 29, 2015
Anticabal:


If dem born your papa well, come to my land in oyigbo LGA and come and raise a nigerian flag when Biafra comes. Aluu will be a childs play. You thieving agbero.

No need to dey bark for Internet, when the time comes, we shall know who owns Rivers State.

Oyigbo niggas are minority in Rivers State. Your opinion and feelings are inconsequential in the affairs of Rivers State.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by meccuno: 3:12pm On Dec 29, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

The 'We' refers to the ethnic nationalities in present day Rivers, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom and Cross river states
but there are igbos in both delta and rivers......I careless about bayelsa, akwa ibom and cross river state. When you say "we", did you take into consideration the opinions of these igbo people who were lumped into these states mentioned? Or you want to tell me that you are ignorant of the fact that igbos are indigenes of these states?

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Awoofawo(m): 3:14pm On Dec 29, 2015
Dedetwo:


Per the bolded, most Nigerians have tendency to regurgitate craps without embarking on simple rudimentary research. I urge you to expose the meaning of term -unitary as it applies to governance. During the Ironsi's era, there were regional system of government where regions still enjoy certain level of autonomous powers as under Tafawa Balewa. Such autonomous entity to the regions was destroyed by the idiotic state creation by Gowon when states did no longer enjoy the autonomous entity under the premier or even regional military administrators. Ojukwu's refusal to accept Gowon as head of state is such autonomous privilege enjoyed by the regions.

You are still wrong in your assumption/assertion! If Ironsi didn't introduce Unitary System into the country political equation, Gowon wouldn't have the base to justify retaining it. In fact the counter-coup night not had happened. Ironsi killed the regional system with that sectional promoting policy and given Gowon the ammunition to dismantle it eventually!

Further more, creating more state by Gowon was mostly concerned with weakening Ojuwku hold on important strategical sites of military significance, in addition to solidifing his hold on the government at the center and promote the realization of northern agenda which was revenge for murdered of northern elites in the first coup! Please don't twisted history!

If the first coup didn't happened, if Ironsi didn't introduced Unitary and handed the issues surrounding the calls for the convict and persecution of Nzeowu and co with kid-gloves, maybe and maybe Nigeria wouldn't be the sh!thole it's now?!
And lastly, you folks should equally stop playing blame game and marginalization, we are tire of hearing that boring music, play us something more entertaining and engaging biko cool
Please grin

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by meccuno: 3:16pm On Dec 29, 2015
Masterclass32:


America can't seem to make up their mind as to how they want to relate to Nigeria. One day, they refuse selling weapons to us and discourage any other nation that wants to, the next day they say they are now open to selling to us, that we are their friends.

We ask them for ebola drug since they claimed they had it, they refuse, giving flimsy reasons. When we overcame ebola, they came smiling and saying that it was with their support that we achieved to feat.

Then this oil stuff?

America is giving a new meaning to the word "friendship".
when you discard "democracy" and embrace communism, then you would know how friendly america would be. GEJ made the same mistake when he left america for Çhina and the loss of the election was a reminder how friendly "America" was.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Dedetwo(m): 3:26pm On Dec 29, 2015
OrlandoOwoh:

Constitution in a military regime? You must be confused.

The creation of new states was welcomed by those that clamoured for it hence their being arrested by Ojukwu after May 27 1967.

Per the bolded, it concluded you are clueless. Even the military rules with decrees, it does not loose sight of constitutional provisions. For the sake of posterity, Ojukwu did not order for the arrest of anybody in eastern region. It would be act of daftness to arrest people of the region at that particular time. The facts remains that Gowon, Yari.ba, Hausa, Fulani, Kanuri and rest of them from northern region hoodwinked the some gullible southerners to such idiotic fallacy of "One-Nigeria". The essence of the civil war simply indicated that Gowon was fishing in troubled waters when he foolishly abrogated regionalism in Nigeria replaced with unitary system in creation of states.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Nobody: 3:27pm On Dec 29, 2015
sebali:


Blame ur brodas who carried outa tribalized coup dat gav d military d chance 2 change d system

The igbos changed d system through their coup and ironsis pen. The igbos are not my brothers.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Nobody: 3:35pm On Dec 29, 2015
Dedetwo:


Per the bolded, I could not believe that any Nigerian with limited education can even quote the crap in the above post. Anyway, we are talking about Nigeria, are we not? One wonders who was Mr. Ukpabia Asika the then administrator of east central state. There is doubt Biafra has driven most Nigerians to the state of nincompoop.

Again,[b] Gowon introduced the unitary government in Nigeria [/b]by abrogating the regional system of government with quasi-independence and replaced it with state format without quasi-independence. Gowon had no such power to mess with eastern region which did not recognize his usurpation of power hence the civil war.

Lie. Why are u guys such incredible liars? Ironsi introduced the unitary government in Nigeria. It was preached by Azikiwe for years. Nzeogwu said he wanted a "strong centre". In fact Ojukwu cldnt wait and started posting igbos to lagos and other regions before d ink of ironsis pen could dry.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Dedetwo(m): 3:42pm On Dec 29, 2015
Awoofawo:

You are still wrong in your assumption/assertion! If Ironsi didn't introduce Unitary System into the country political equation, Gowon wouldn't have the base to justify retaining it. In fact the counter-coup night not had happened. Ironsi killed the regional system with that sectional promoting policy and given Gowon the ammunition to dismantle it eventually!

Further more, creating more state by Gowon was mostly concerned with weakening Ojuwku hold on important strategical sites of military significance, in addition to solidifing his hold on the government at the center and promote the realization of northern agenda which was revenge for murdered of northern elites in the first coup! Please don't twisted history!

If the first coup didn't happened, if Ironsi didn't introduced Unitary and handed the issues surrounding the calls for the convict and persecution of Nzeowu and co with kid-gloves, maybe and maybe Nigeria wouldn't be the sh!thole it's now?!
And lastly, you folks should equally stop playing blame game and marginalization, we are tire of hearing that boring music, play us something more entertaining and engaging biko cool
Please grin

Pease do additional research or read more books you will certainly know who was the military administrator of your region during Ironsi era. If you have such a person as a military governor of your region, then you can make the call. Ironsi had no intention in staying in power more the time it required to stabilize the country and call for elections. He just simple appointed military administrators to the regions while leaving the roles of civilian governors, premiers and regional houses of assembly as advisory. Though there was supreme military council, the mechanics of federal government were still as usual at the center with the central legislature as mere advisory board. Human beings have instinct destructive tendencies in them especially when things are not going their way. The loud noises about alleged Irons’s introduction of unitary government came from those who had ulterior motives or have shameful skeleton in their cupboards.

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