Ganoderma:


The OCCUPY WALL STREET MOVEMENT was not hostile.

So why would they use deadly force.

Was the Biafran processions hostile to warrant deadly force as well?

APCsupporter:
So zakzaky is above the law because of his ties with Iran right? Mtchew, Allah ya fisu ai.

But come o, the NA is the remote cause of this. After killing them and passing they should have let the matter be but they came back and burnt their houses, killing innocent infants and even babies in the process. Tomorrow if they take arms and decide to revenge would you blame them?

love ur sincerity in this dude. I dont understand why d NA should go n burn their house. Its well.
@whitecloth, I admire ur maturity n @thedevilisalai good knowledge, analysis n wisdom. What I understand is nigeria sunni majority are trying all their best to silence the shiite minority, which is not good. Let there be fair investigation n d law take its cause.

olajide8:


Nobody is being treated as a leper- would you go from nigeria to the UK and break their laws? Better still is it a must that your way of life must be enforced on other people in another country?

I'm not a muslim, I'm a super heavyweight Anglican. You don't know something, sit and ask.

You make this muslims come on nairaland and say what they like to us. Don't pass your judgement wrongly, ask questions before your anger over religion blinds you.

Lol and what is that based on?

Nigeria isn't part of NATO or does Nigeria have a defence agreement with the US UK Israel or Germany that I don't know about?

The US will probably impose sanctions and talk or use Nigeria as another proxy war, but don't expect US boots on the ground in Nigeria.

I don't see a war breaking out, more Iran funding and arming Shiite militia in Nigeria, but if a war were to break of we should get help from AU members as nigeria has been active on peace keeping missions in Africa.

DaBullIT:
If Iran attacks Nigeria , USA, Israel, Germany UK will attack them

cyprex:

It amazes scrupulous Nigerians that myopic people like you, blinded by palpable hatred still populate the Nigerian landscape.
Citizens of other countries still says 'God bless our leader' but here you are wishing your leader and a section of your country bad.
Does it matter from which ethnic group you are from? for God's sake why can't you even be a little patriotic?

For the avoidance of doubt people like you are the real enemies of the ethnic group you pretend to love.
Even if you refuse to hear any other truth this 2016, Nigeria's territorial integrity, the unity and progress of its people and its socio-economic growth MUST be attained whether or not a handful of people of your ilk like it or not.

To the glory of God, Nigeria is now blessed with a forthright leadership on whose shoulder rest authority, political and decisions making powers which will largely control your affairs in Nigeria at least for the next 3-years or more.

SAFETY WARNING: Never stand against a moving train; it is foolhardy to do so.

at the bolded, may be you are cut off from current news. Cameroonian army came into a part of our country, killed our fellow citizens and burnt their houses. What did your President do? Chadian army did same, what did your President do? the army opened fire on fellow citizens, killed them, went to their houses at midnight, kiiled the remaining ones and burnt down their houses. What did your President do? They could be your relations. Forget about territorial integrity. I don't need to support any President with whom I don't feel safe under. Whom I believe my fundamental human rights mean nothing to him. I don't need to always like people who from their statements hate me. Your claimed moving train has a dead irreparable engine. It is moving with supersonic speed only in your dream.

Either ure not following the story or ure not saying the truth. This sect is ruthless or do u want anoda boko haram again.
Even Muslim leaders do warn them of their behaviour, so the courageous Nigeria Army felt the desire to clamp them and break their feathers. How can u be in Nigeria and create up own laws against the laws of the land.

God bless Nigeria Army
God bless President Buhari
God bless Nigeria
God bless Me

APCsupporter:
So zakzaky is above the law because of his ties with Iran right? Mtchew, Allah ya fisu ai.

But come o, the NA is the remote cause of this. After killing them and passing they should have let the matter be but they came back and burnt their houses, killing innocent infants and even babies in the process. Tomorrow if they take arms and decide to revenge would you blame them?

TheDevilIsALai:


Was the Biafran processions hostile to warrant deadly force as well?

Who said anything about Biafra?

OYAY:
What an arrant nonsense! D last I checked,d El Zaksacky is a Nigerian and the offense committed was on Nigeria soil; so what the heck is the Iran concern about how we deal with dissidents in our midst? I think this op is either not a Nigerian or coward to have suggested we submit our sovereignty to Ayatollah Khomenein of Iran in the name of graveyard peace that will lead to more damning demand from shiites!

Before you begin use national sovereignty as an excuse to justify aligning to Saudi Arabia to the point of severing diplomatic relations with Iran , I want to ask what exactly is it that a multi religious Nation like Nigeria stand to gain by taking side in a secular conflict?

If the Buhari govt goes ahead to kill or execute El Zackzacky they will only end up making him a martyr.

His continued detention will only serve as a rallying call by the Shiites to protest religious intolerance in Nigeria towards their members and justify any terror attacks on Nigerians home and abroad.

It will also serve to bolster anti Shiite groups in the crazy north to attack blindly any shiite thereby setting off another round of sectarian strife in the battered north.

Please kindly tell me who is the real puppet here if not the Buhari govt who is blindly using his religious beliefs and sentiments to bring anarchy to the Nigeria and Nigerians

Ganoderma:



Who said anything about Biafra?

They were killed for holding street protests similar to the wall street occupy movement.

Why did the Nigerian govt order the use of deadly force on a peaceful rally?

nnachukz:
at the bolded, may be you are cut off from current news. Cameroonian army came into a part of our country, killed our fellow citizens and burnt their houses. What did your President do? Chadian army did same, what did your President do? the army opened fire on fellow citizens, killed them, went to their houses at midnight, kiiled the remaining ones and burnt down their houses. What did your President do? They could be your relations. Forget about territorial integrity. I don't need to support any President with whom I don't feel safe under. Whom I believe my fundamental human rights mean nothing to him. I don't need to always like people who from their statements hate me. Your claimed moving train has a dead irreparable engine. It is moving with supersonic speed only in your dream.

And these dogs come here to chant sai buhari. The guy is just a waste of time

TheDevilIsALai:


They were killed for holding street protests similar to the wall street occupy movement.

Why did the Nigerian govt order the use of deadly force on a peaceful rally?

And you know it was a peaceful rally because....

247NewsUpdateNG:



You're very right. From poll count, all Islamist militant/terrorist groups are Sunni-inclined.
The Shi'a/Shiite Muslims are more peaceful when compared to others and only act when acted against.
My opinion: A Shi'a/Shiite believes in dialogue while a Sunni believes in violence.

IN RECENT TIMES,ISLAM IN ALL ITS APPEARANCES HAVE PROVEN TO BE NON PEACE-LOVING.I DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO ZAKZAKY,BUT IF ANODA COUNTRY WILL THREATEN US BECOS OF HIM THEN THERE IS MORE TO THAT SECT THAN MEETS THE EYE.IT MUST BE TAKEN DOWN COMPLETELY.WE MUST NOT PAMPER PEOPLE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN NEGOTIATION.THIS IS NIGERIA AND WE ARE A CIRCULAR STATE

TheDevilIsALai:


Go and join your Saudi masters.

If not that it is from the commonwealth of my region that will be used to fund this act of foolishness wetin concern me.

If una like trek to Sudan and board a rickety boat across the Red Sea to join your arab masters. That one is your concern.

All I am saying is that this direction of foreign policy based on religious sentiments and subservience to your arab masters is bound to fail and alienate Nigeria further.

We are all not after all Sunni bokos in Nigeria

You aree very confused sha!

DaBullIT:
If Iran attacks Nigeria , USA, Israel, Germany UK will attack them

Go and read abt hezbollah dey won't invade naija but dey will cause chaos ehhhh

Ganoderma:


And you know it was a peaceful rally because....

Now you are looking for a way to call the dog a bad name in order to hang it.

jonnieoneng:

IN RECENT TIMES,ISLAM IN ALL ITS APPEARANCES HAVE PROVEN TO BE NON PEACE-LOVING.I DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO ZAKZAKY,BUT IF ANODA COUNTRY WILL THREATEN US BECOS OF HIM THEN THERE IS MORE TO THAT SECT THAN MEETS THE EYE.IT MUST BE TAKEN DOWN COMPLETELY.WE MUST NOT PAMPER PEOPLE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN NEGOTIATION.THIS IS NIGERIA AND WE ARE A CIRCULAR STATE

This reason is why islam is banned in several Nations China, Angola and so many of them now. They kill themselves and extend the level of brutality to other religions. But the "kill or be killed " theory is mostly exercised by Sunni Muslims who follow the laws letter for letter from.the Sunnah( Mohammedans laws)

The reason for the hatred is because the Shia muslims don't regard the first three caliphs (khalifa) as their own. They follow the rights of Ali, who the mantle was stolen from. It was said that Ali preached the gospel and it was accepted in Persia (present day iran)

This is why they ask you in Iraq, "what is your name ", "where do you live", "how do you pray". The moment you show them, and they see you Shia, they apprehend you, read the rules and then choose a very brutal way to kill the person. Most times they tie the person to two cars and move in two different directions, thus dividing the person in 2 equal halves.

The followership of the Sunnah is one bloodthirsty one. And since no one accepts it,they result to compulsory measures or die. This is why the Shia and sunni has been in disagreement, and it dates back to nearly 1400 years ago.

jonnieoneng:

IN RECENT TIMES,ISLAM IN ALL ITS APPEARANCES HAVE PROVEN TO BE NON PEACE-LOVING.I DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO ZAKZAKY,BUT IF ANODA COUNTRY WILL THREATEN US BECOS OF HIM THEN THERE IS MORE TO THAT SECT THAN MEETS THE EYE.IT MUST BE TAKEN DOWN COMPLETELY.WE MUST NOT PAMPER PEOPLE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN NEGOTIATION.THIS IS NIGERIA AND WE ARE A CIRCULAR STATE

And by being a secular (not circular) state you justify the clampdown of all religious minorities based on your misguided foreign policy towards doing the bidding of another religious state?

trillville:


Russia, China, and North Korea will attack USA, Israel, Germany and the U.K.

and then you have world war 3

Newmanluckyman:
.. Nigeria is not an Islamic country? Please don't deceive yourself. Talking about a country interfering in another country.. It must always happen. Today we blame the EX US PRESIDENT Bill Clinton for not doing enough to interfere or stop the genocide that happened in Rwanda. Even, Nigeria has equally interfer in the affairs of other countries like when we voted to oust Gaddafi, when we supported the actualization of the Palestinian independence.

What do countries stand to benefit from interfering in the governance of another sovereign state/country "when they don't have investments in it, or proposed investment?" all countries have specific reason at specific times for interference but for nigeria/iran and religious belief? Not economic? I don't think it makes sense- rewanda, america and other countries were selling weapons, Libya the lockabe bombing of a plane over ireland from a supposed 3rd world country, well that country needed to be checked, other issues of threats to immediate European neighbours gives room for questioning, Palestine/isreal bilateral agreements between america and a problem of a state within a state bruhaha and it's a country in which history favours Christianity but Islam has come to encroach on some of what they hold important, imagine a church and the place where a disciple was buried - now turned into a mosque- and they don't allow Christians to worship their again' these are the infractions - a beg I can talk again*

AlPeter:

You are the one not getting it there is NO NEUTRAL GROUND here and NO ALLIES. Each of the countries you quoted are only defending their sovereignty and will decisions based on it. The only way we can be 'Neutral' is by keeping our stand. America, and Britain wants Kanu released and the Gay Law passed, Iran want us to lick-ass by releasing El zak zacky if we succumbe to any of their demands and threats we will become a puppet Nation.

Why does the NATO body exist if there are no allies? The Japanese government changed is non aggression laws late year to enable their army to join allied forces in an event of war. Why did the Japanese government do this? Nations have shared interest and have policies that are very intertwined.


zakzaky as a person may not be so important to the Iranians because he is a black man. The matter on ground is the Nigerian government through its actions seems to be aligning with Saudi Arabia against Iran.

A Saudi Arabian Shia was executed a few days ago and the Iranians burnt down parts of the Saudi Arabian embassy. The Iranians only protested peacefully after 100 black people were extrajudicially killed at Zaria. They don't care about us.

In fact, if Iran had no issue with Saudi Arabia, it wouldn't matter whatever we do to zakzaky. But this is not the case, so we need to thread carefully.

Moreover, why sacrifice one black life over a fight we have nothing to do with. We are not Arabs or are we?

Nigeria did not get where she is in the diplomatic circles from being an aggressive nation but by towing the line of dialogue.

Nigerian security forces have been engaged abroad not for war but for peacekeeping and our reputation of not taking any side unless unilaterally decided by the AU or UN is why Nigeria was considered for the UN Security council seat.

Our Foreign policy has always steered clear of any axis and we have been signatory members of the Non Aligned Committee of Nations since the Cold war era.

To take us from our neutral position for the sake of religious attachment in a secular Nation like Nigeria is not only very dangerous but highly foolish and says a lot about the kind of people heading this current govt.

Newmanluckyman:
.. Nigeria is not an Islamic country? Please don't deceive yourself. Talking about a country interfering in another country.. It must always happen. Today we blame the EX US PRESIDENT Bill Clinton for not doing enough to interfere or stop the genocide that happened in Rwanda. Even, Nigeria has equally interfer in the affairs of other countries like when we voted to oust Gaddafi, when we supported the actualization of the Palestinian independence.

Nigeria is no where near an islamic nation. The Constitution gives a hand to islam doesn't justify the quran and Sharia laws else, you wouldn't be having a free time now. To even toast woman around your area go even hard you .

This is a democratic system of government we practice here, if we had islamic laws, freedom of speech would have been the last on the list. Get your facts right.

Mrfahaz:
don dictate to us...........@iran

u can imagine!!!!

TheDevilIsALai:


I will reopen discussions with the Iranians and assure them of El Zakzacky's release on the condition they (Iranians) take him into exile. In response to this I will assure the Iranians of Nigeria's neutrality in the ongoing conflict and will set up a public enquiry looking into the Shiite massacre and promise to bring to book anybody in the army responsible for or part of the Zaria massacre.

A high powered delegation led by the President will meet with the Iranian govt over the issue in Tehran where the President will state his readiness to carry out a thorough investigation into the massacre.

There will be cameras and a handshake and the matter will die in 3 days time

If I managed to be president of Nigeria Or Biafra (whichever one) You would definitely make my Minister for foreign affairs. which School mold you?

Sense full ground!

shadowgwalker:
the media are not straightforward in their job.

I'm sure those Shiites must have done something worse than what we've heard. or they are now threats to national security.

men!!the fg should silence them abeg! we dey try recover from their sister operation BH.


also, help me fyiok Iran... they are the foreign version of 9ja Fulani!

Killing the innocent ones among them is like breeding another boko haram. Tell me what the offense of a 1 year old girl that she has to die for it? I saw a live corpse of a baby in one of their demolished houses.

I hate the shiites but I won't allow my hatred for them to make me support this extra-judicial killings

preciousMI1:


u can imagine!!!!

Don't listen to him. He does hear say politics.
Instead of him to understand and pray for his nation, he's saying don't dictate to us. Did boko haram not start this way in Nigeria when they killed that thier Muhammed of a guy, they dispersed, many went to train somewhere in Ethiopia, many Iraq, many went to syria, lybia, many went to Somalia, many to Mali etc.

When they came back, they grouped and formed what is befalling nigeria today - Boko haram.

Your useless president who doesn't have a single idea what he's doing is keeping this man in detention nd forming deaf ears, suppose IPOB, Shi'a and niger delta team up and Fight buhari, shay he would have liver to fight back?

Yeye dey smell

kazuna:


If I managed to be president of Nigeria Or Biafra (whichever one) You would definitely make my Minister for foreign affairs. which School mold you?

Sense full ground!

Here is more for you.

APCzombie:
[size=18pt]Preamble[/size]

Just yesterday , we heard of the Saudis demanding that the Iranians vacate their embassy in Riyadh and there are strong indications of a military buildup by the Saudis along the Iraqi border in preparation to engage the Iranians through Kuwait.

To the average CNN addict this may seem merely in response to the Iranian seige of the Saudi Embassy in Tehran which was touched by Iranian protesters protesting the execution of a prominent and leading Saudi Shi'ite cleric by the Saudi govt.


Actually there is more to this.

Prior to the execution of the Shiite Cleric by the Saudis an obscure Iraqi based Shiite militia backed by Iran captured over 2 dozen Quatari citizens which included several royals linked by blood and marriage to the Saudi royal family.

The obscure militia had demanded for the unconditional release of the Shiite cleric in Saudi custody before they release their prisoners.

The Iraqi Shiite militia had captured the Quataris in Iraq where they had gone on a hunting expedition from across Bahrain.

The Gulf states were negotiating for their release before the Saudi govt went ahead to execute the Shiite Cleric.

The state orchestrated siege and burning of the Saudi embassy in Tehran was just another trolling by the Iranians on the Saudi Kingdom.

You will also want to recall that the Iranians have been backing and equipping Houthi Shiite separists in Yemen which at one time overran the capital Aden mid last year. This triggered the Saudis to launch an offensive to take back Yemen from the Houthis.

So far that war has been a disaster for the Saudis as the Houthi Shiites were able to ground Saudi air superiority by taken down at least one Saudi jet per day and even gaining territory in Saudi soil. This is what forced Saudi Arabia to call for a ceasefire and peace talk with the Houthi Shiite.

As things stand now, the Saudis are blowing hot air and threatening to go to war with Iran.

Nobody in their right mind should take the Saudis serious over any threat with the Iranian military as they don't in any way stand one single chance against the Persian giant. On paper, the Saudis have all the money and tools at their disposal to wage a war with mouth with the Iranians but given that the Saudis are good at nothing and terrible at warfare, anybody with knowledge of the middle east power game knows the Saudis pose no significant threat to the region apart from throwing their money on every lunatic Sunni group.

This is where we get to Nigeria...

The Saudi govt recently listed out a coalition of "Muslim" countries they want to lead in fighting their proxy ISIS.

This is all rubbish as ISIS poses no significant threat to anybody but the weakened Assad regime which the Saudis hate with passion.

The real motive for this Saudi led coalition is to form a Sunni army against the Iranians.

The viscous clampdown on the El Zackzacky Shiite group in Zaria by the Nigerian military was ordered from Saudi Arabia.

The illiterate APC led Nigerian govt was presented with fake evidence of arms stockpiling by both the Saudi govt and Israelis in order to have the Nigerian authorities clampdown on the Shiites and in so doing pitch Nigeria against Iran.

Now why will the Saudis in conjunction with the Israeli govt do this?

Simply because, the Saudis need the manpower to fight Iran.

The geopolitics has changed since Sadaam was ousted in Iraq. Today Iraq is being led by a Shiite govt which automatically makes Iraq an ally to Iran. The US has also began slowly disengaging from the middle east and are priotizing the Asian pacific realm ( to check China) and north Atlantic corridor (to check Russia).

The advent of Shale oil is also not helping the Saudis as the US does not see them anymore as a strategic energy source. If anything the US Fracking industry wants war in Saudi Arabia as this will shoot up crude prices making Shale production profitable. The estimated cost for conventional crude must be relatively high to make shale oil production viable. So this is why you won't be seeing any US boots fighting to protect Saudi Arabia. If anything the US will be promoting and sustaining both sides in order to sell weapons to both.

The Saudis have seen the handwriting on the wall and know very well never to expect US military intervention on their behalf and so that is why they are calling for a coalition.

The Israelis on the other hand have a very healthy respect and fear of the Iranians. Unlike the daft Saudi military which was losing on average a fighter jet a day in Yemen, the Iranian military is highly professional and dedicated . While the Saudi military is controlled by inbred coke sniffing princes , the Iranians on the other hand have a professional force.


So to Alhaji Buhari, I urge you to use your brain when it comes to the mid east affairs and to stop using your sentimental attachments to the Saudi regime to drag Nigeria into any unnecessary conflict.

The Iranians are no joke and are considered a very potent and serious threat in the terror game by anti terrorist consultants.

Unlike the Saudis who throw money on any lunatic bunch , the Iranians are precise on their targets and have been known to use criminal gang networks to facilitate their terror plots. The Iranians unlike the Saudis do not just blow up any random train or bus to send their signal but as we have seen in Lebanon they target their enemies personally .

There are two scenarios that will occur in Nigeria once this conflict escalates

The Iranians will plan and execute their terror plots in Nigeria targeting not the common man but highly placed govt and Sunni religious leaders.

The second and reactionary response to what is above will be retalaitory riots on shiites by the sunni majority and mass recruitment drive of northern Muslims by Sunni Clerics to join the war in Saudi Arabia. There will be many rich northerners that will gladly fund their trip via road to Sudan then onward via the Red Sea to Saudi Arabia.

We as Africans have no business fighting and dying for these people.


I therefore call on President Buhari to urgently retrace his blind allegiance to the dying and crumbling Saudi royal family.

Bishop Magic doesnt phuck around!

zanga420:
love ur sincerity in this dude. I dont understand why d NA should go n burn their house. Its well.
@whitecloth, I admire ur maturity n @thedevilisalai good knowledge, analysis n wisdom. What I understand is nigeria [s]sunni majority are trying all their best to silence the shiite minority[/s], which is not good. Let there be fair investigation n d law take its cause.

There you go again. Who has time to hate the shiites? Please majority of us don't give a fvck about them. Do you know that they have been blocking roads for several years and we(the Sunnis) didn't take action? You will see them swearing that nobody can pass and even insulting us but nobody cared to take action. We have enough numbers to totally eradicate them if we want to.

Similar thing happened in gej's administration. Is gej also a sunni

APCsupporter:


We have enough numbers to totally eradicate them if we want to.

So much for adherents of a peaceful religion.

ISLAM IS A CURSE TO THE WORLD,THE MAJOR CONFLICTS ACROSS THE GLOBE REVOLVES AROUND THIS RELIGION.THE ARE A BUNCH OF CONFUSED GOD4SAKEN BIGOT.IRAN,ATTACK NIGERIA*#%?$@@% LET THEM COME.THEY WILL BE TAUGHT A LESSON OF THEIR LIVES

Bigsteveg:
Either ure not following the story or ure not saying the truth. This sect is ruthless or do u want anoda boko haram again.
Even Muslim leaders do warn them of their behaviour, so the courageous Nigeria Army felt the desire to clamp them and break their feathers. How can u be in Nigeria and create up own laws against the laws of the land.

God bless Nigeria Army
God bless President Buhari
God bless Nigeria
God bless Me

I am one of the victims of their lawlessness bros. They have been blocking roads for so long and nobody cared to challenge them. They truly deserved the killing but then what about the innocent ones? What about the innocent children and women? I went to the scene to watch and trust me I saw a bloody corpse of a dead baby. Was the baby also blocking the road?

kazuna:


So much for adherents of a peaceful religion.

What's wrong in what I said? Its just like saying all nairalanders combined can kill mr A if they want to.

Did I say we will kill them?