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Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by HighIQ(m): 11:02am On Jan 05, 2016 |
homesteady:hahahaha so they did not even do anatomy, physioogy and co. And they call themselves a doc. Anyway let's leave them. All profession are good in as much you have passion for it. I don't want to belittle any profession further |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Lagusta(m): 11:16am On Jan 05, 2016 |
homesteady: please lets take things easy here.... an optometrist is always awarded an OD (Doctor of optometry) and is always given the "Dr" title.... the MBBS degree is getting outdated, Nigeria needs to move on, MD is far better.... and yes, optometry is a very lucrative job, as you see them working in teaching and general hospitals hand-in-hand with opthalmologists.... so abeg make we chill small 1 Like |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Lagusta(m): 11:21am On Jan 05, 2016 |
Metrofox: you are correct, but not too correct.... opthalmologists see more than cataracts or glaucoma.... in fact, in the north I'm sure they see more retinoblastoma patients than cataracts..... what of eye trauma and lacerations, what of eye burns, what of lens detachment or retinal detachment or am I talking trash here 2 Likes |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Drdonzeez(m): 1:05pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
Metrofox:From your analogy,optometry is ahead of medicine in a private setting? |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Metrofox(m): 1:08pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
Lagusta: Retinoblastoma occurs in 1 out of 10000 CHILDREN Cataract is the leading cause of blindness WORLDWIDE, so where's your logic here? Or you just used the word retinoblastoma because it sounds fancy... You're more likely to see a case of allergic conjunctivitis than lens detachment, retinal detachment,trauma and lacerations COMBINED. do your research 3 Likes |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Metrofox(m): 1:17pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
Drdonzeez: I don't recall talking about medicine here..I hope you know medicine is a very old and broad field of practice. I don't know how you interpret your statements..go through my write up again if it's not very clear |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Drdonzeez(m): 2:07pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
Metrofox:I asked a question.since,you presume Optometry is far ahead of Dentistry,then,it is also ahead of medicine.comparing Dentistry with optometry is just like comparing Barcelona with warriors wolves.Dentists are more respected and far ahead anywhere in the world.I don't really fartom the meaning of private practise here because there are no restrictions in private practise.Anybody can set up a hospital/ clinic provided he has the financial back up and he employs staff as he wants: Non medical persons can establish clinics,he does not practise..In Nigeria ,there is residency program for Dentistry unlike optometry which automaticaly makes you a consultant.then ,you'll be in grade level 15 whereas an optometrist languishes in 10 or 12..so,Dentistry is far better. dentistry should be compared with medicine not optometry.its an insult. 2 Likes |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Drdonzeez(m): 2:10pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
Metrofox:I asked a question.since,you presume Optometry is far ahead of Dentistry,then,it is also ahead of medicine.comparing Dentistry with optometry is just like comparing Barcelona with warri wolves.Dentists are more respected and far ahead anywhere in the world.I don't really fartom the meaning of private practise here because there are no restrictions in private practise.Anybody can set up a hospital/ clinic provided he has the financial back up and he employs staff as he wants: Non medical persons can establish clinics,he does not practise..In Nigeria ,there is residency program for Dentistry unlike optometry which automaticaly makes you a consultant.then ,you'll be in grade level 15 whereas an optometrist languishes in 10 or 12..so,Dentistry is far better. dentistry should be compared with medicine( No need for comparisons since they are brothers)not slave' like optometry.its an insult. 2 Likes |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by homesteady(m): 2:35pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
Lagusta: One of our lectures told us that from either next or upper JAMB set, the students would be required to get a degree in any of the pre-clinical courses before moving to clinical! Maybe thats when it would be upgraded to MD. |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by homesteady(m): 2:39pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
HighIQ: They do it, but not in details! They just brush through it. |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Nobody: 3:04pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
y'all BDS warriors no dey tire. You guys suppose to be jacking by now not making comparisons all over NL, una no get any MB/C.A ni? 2 Likes |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Lagusta(m): 5:04pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
Metrofox: during my medical school days I saw three cases of retinoblastoma, and I saw five during my house job.... and it doesn't sound fancy to me, watch the way you talk to people 1 Like |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Metrofox(m): 5:44pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
Lagusta: so you saw 8 cases of retinoblastoma in 8 or 9 years , do you know many cataract cases are seen every year? please don't let the statistics embarrass you..by the way the way I sound is subject to your interpretation, which is entirely your own doing and your own business.. |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Metrofox(m): 5:55pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
Drdonzeez:I always crack up when I see a dentist trying to raise their tiny voice..dentists are dead weight..& just attached to life support courtesy of medicine..most people in dentistry couldn't make it into medicine and just want to 'belong' .by the way I was not talking about opening a clinic..of course anybody can do that..but the crux of the matter is profitability (how lucrative?) .and you just can't compare with optometry bro..learn to live with that...people don't mind losing a teeth or two anyway P.S if someone collapses in front of a dentist,you still have to dial 911 2 Likes |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by HighIQ(m): 6:19pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
Metrofox:don't u know that dental students and medical students offers virtually the same course in the university until part 5. It is obvious u don't know what you are saying. You optometric are not important in anyway, an opthalmologist who is a medical doctor can do your job. Even an optician is better than you guys. You will never hear of Nigeria medical and optometry council but instead Nigeria medical and dental council. Optometry is under faculty of science, dentistry is an health science course. Oau Ui and many uni don't offer your course when we already have qualified opthalmologist. Don't say dentistry is not highly patronise go to any general hospital or luth and visit their dental section and see the huge queue. How do you know people don't visit a dentist. Will someone who visited a dentist tell you he just visited one. Although I'm not a dental student but I must tell you dentistry is far better to optometry in all ramnification. If you. have highiq. and you own a dental clinic, with the help of God you can make your dental clinc so popular that many guys esp in this fashion days wld av visited your clinic at least once to brace etc. No be only celebrity dey visit dental clinic. Advertise on tv radio and many media and tell them what u can. do. I assure u a lot of ladies and guys wld be interested. And you wld av huge crowd per week. 2 Likes |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Lagusta(m): 6:38pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
Metrofox: you are trying to prove a point, I am also proving mine.... the bottom line is, it still adds up to the same direction..... I totally agree that cataract cases are commoner, but I'm also stressing the point that retinoblastoma cases are getting commoner nowadays.... that's all I have to say for now, thanks..... nice meeting you.... |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Lagusta(m): 6:40pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
HighIQ: optometry is under clinical sciences..... |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Metrofox(m): 6:41pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
HighIQ:Firstly I'm not an optometrist and secondly you obviously are not in the medical field even if you are you might be in one mushroom university claiming medical student..where they bake quacks.if you're a Dr, you'll know that you're not allowed to advertise your practise in the media. Secondly try to be more exposed before making points..apart from one university in Nigeria,optometry is under the faculty of health sciences..Thirdly on the difference between Optometrist,Opthalmologist and optician,pls read up my previous post..Fourtly reading a course is a different ball game from practice so I shake my head when I see dentists living in denial..anybody can read a textbook in school..what's so new about the courses dentists do along with medical students? Anatomy,Physiology,Biochemistry? Mind you pharmacists read these courses too..find out |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Metrofox(m): 6:47pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
Lagusta:LAST TIME I CHECKED twas 1:10000 more commoner? We'll leave that for epidemiologists. You could also be having what we call in psychology; confirmation bias P.S nice meeting you too 1 Like |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by HighIQ(m): 7:04pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
Metrofox:there you go again. Who will stop you from advertising ur clinic on radio or channels tv. Anyway will they stop you from erecting a large banner as well? If you install your clinic at a strategic locationns... And again it is not only people with pain that visit dentists. Infact people do not need to plan before coming to your clinic as anybody can branch into any dental shop on sighting your clinc to whitening or brace or remove mouth odor. And again what are u saying? I have friends studying pharmacy and I want to tell u the anatomy they do is very diff from that of dental and medical students. They do not go into details den andmedics |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Metrofox(m): 7:07pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
HighIQ: It's was nice meeting you |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by originbm: 7:57pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
homesteady: U r the grossly ignorant person.... Do u at all know what an optometrist studies boss...Let me try list some.... Anatomy Physiology Biochemistry Ocular anatomy Microbiology Geometric and Physical Optics Community health Bacteriology General Pathology General Pharmacology Ocular Pathology Ocular Pharmacology Neurophysiology Ocular Biochemistry Boostatistics Neuroanatomy Ocular Microbiology Ocular Physiology Paediatric Optometry Neuropathology Geriatric Optometry Human Genetics Epidemiology Endocrinology and Nutrition Physiological Optics series Ophthalmic optics Series Applied Psychology General Optometry series Optometric Clinical instrumentation Mechanical Optics Series Contact Lens Series Contact lens clinic series Primary eye care and Ocular Emergencies Practice management series Patient management seminars Orthoptics Strabismus and Amblyopia Visual Rehabilitation and Low Vision Functional Optometry Clinical optics series Specialty clinics Clinical Optometry Series...... And others This list is not at all exhaustive... U still want to know what Ods study in school....U r asking what an optometrist knows in the human body..... There is a reason why optometry has the highest failure rate in uniben.... Not minding the fact that after 300 level the optometry student doesnt go on holidays till they graduate Keep to ur teeth cause wen u come to ocular and visual science u r a complete dunce..... Cant u read?I said a mbbs holder is a doctor by designation ,an MD is a doctor not just by designation but by qualification cause his certificate bears his title.... Shut ur trap if u have nothing to say.... Because Dentistry is tagging behind medicine like house boys .... Dentistry is not a money spinner,sorry.... When it comes to lucrativeness,dentistry does not come close to optometry.... And to answer your questions....they learn them in details with 50% as pass mark for every course. You a fail ONE clinical course and you repeat a yr.... Do u understand a bit now? 5 Likes |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by originbm: 8:04pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
HighIQ: This guy are u sure you are even a medical student? Health profesdions dobt advertise!Even Law chambers dont advertise!! U dont know anything and u keep arguing.... Ur signboard as a clinic is not so much an advertisin item as a symbol of identification for the clinic.... Na wao...which kind school una dey go self? 3 Likes |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Drdonzeez(m): 8:18pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
Metrofox: 1 Like |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Drdonzeez(m): 8:26pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
originbm:Your posts depict gross ignorance.Dentists, houseboy?So,prof.odukoya an oral pathologist a former CMD LUTH was an house boy?prof.owotade CMAC OAUTH is an house boy?.Dr.obimakinde,NMA chairman Ekiti state chapter is an house boy? the MBBS and BDS degrees are the real doctors in the clinical setting,the rest are allies.prof.odukoya whose two sons are dental surgeons could have secured medicine if they had prefered it.Go learn more about Dentistry Abeg.I'll term you a dunce if you think only health professions establish clinics. 3 Likes |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by originbm: 8:47pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
Drdonzeez: I will pick up ur points one after the other even though u r yet to learn the art of marshalling ur points.... 1.Every semblage of prestige has is because they the are subservient to medicine....Without the patronage of medicine,dentistry is dead.... 2.In case u dont know,there is residency training for optometrists which leads to award of FNCO, and FAAO. Politics in Nigeria has prevented the optometry consultants from practiccing to the full capacity of their training in tertiary health institutions. An optometrist automatically starts lecturing as a lecturer 2 in universities just like a medical doctor. 3.Who is non clinical person....the amt of non-invasive proceedures an optometrist learns in school a dentist cannot come near it....I will list a few.... 1.Opthalmoscopy-Direct and Indirect 2.Retinoscopy--Dynamic and Static 3.Biomicroscopy 4.Tonometry-Applanation and Indentation 5.Red Lens 6.Baggolini 7.Von Graffe 8.Worth 4 dot 5.Keratometry 6.Maddox rod and wings 7.Perimetry 8.Confrontation 9.Ductions 10.Near tests Etc Plus those in Visual rehabilitation and orthoptics....Tecniques in paediatric and geriatric ocular and visual diagnosis Plus we treat all surgical proceedures didactically,plus every work up gor pre and post operative management of ocular px.... Like i said ,the grade 15 u r clutching to is because of professional rival and opyometry has not been very political because the pp is their domain..... Optometry is typically private practice oriented world wide.... And in that field dentistry is a toddler..... Thats y ur dept ia always wary of admitting people in order not to flood the market with jobless dentists..... I hv never dreamt of comparing optometry with dentustry....dentistry is just hiding behind medicine to get their handouts from govt.... If pharmacy dey talk,i go even hear....which dentistry? Laugh wan kill me. 8. 6. 4 Likes |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by originbm: 8:58pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
Drdonzeez: You see this is exactly what i am saying....u r already running to hide behind medicine's wrapper You are trying to substantiate ur unbelievable fallacy by bringing medicine into the equation... The fact that a butterfly has wings doesnt make it a bird....dentistry cannot be compared with medicine.... The fact that u guys are under the same council doesnt make u equal.... Dentistry is a tough course to study also,but money no dey if govt no feed u....chikena. 4 Likes |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Drdonzeez(m): 9:16pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
originbm:your beefing won't change anything...thank God dentists can be CMDs.Lol.I'll never be a slave God forbid |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by originbm: 9:18pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
homesteady: Thats hw optometry and pharmacy is in USA.U finish a first degree before u proceed to optometry school for four yrs.Its okay. 1 Like |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by originbm: 9:25pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
Drdonzeez: Nobody is beefing u I am telling u an incontrovertible truth....Dentistry is not a money spinner in Nigeria,take it or leqve it... If u r hoping to go into private practice and make money like an optometrist,pharmacist or medical doctor....forget it.... U r celebrating ur being able to be CMDs which is an accident of professional politics..... Enjoy ur salary as CMD but if u r wise u wont invest in a dental clinic .Invest in molue business or pure water business instead. 4 Likes |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by Drdonzeez(m): 9:36pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
originbm:but Dentists will keep earning from CONMESS..optometrists keep forming union with porters.NB:anyone can establish a clinic. Roadside chemists are competing with pharmacists. |
Re: How Lucrative Is OPTOMETRY by originbm: 10:18pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
Drdonzeez: Right until 2008 /2009 optometrists earned exactly the same amt with medical doctors on the contiss.Till they used politics to divide it into conmess/conhess. What is the great difference between conhess 9 and conmess 1.Conmess 1 which is ur entry point is conhess 10. Thats the politics that medicine successfully played. Optometrists have a laissez faire attitude to professional politics because they have this ingrained belief that the profession is a private sector playmaker.(I personally dont agree with that position anyway...) With the connmess u r touting u cant still measure up to an average eye clinic. The truth is i never liked taking on dentistry because i pity their plight...dentistry isca usually quiet profession...i am so suprised that dentistry wants to compare with optometry in lucrativeness....na so una don reach? In the end its the money....optometry has it much more than dentistry... Anybody can open a clinic,but not anyone can run a clinic...Maybe an orange seller can run a dental clinic....but only an optometrist or ophthalmologist can run an eye clinic...Only a pharmacist can run a pharmacy..... No matter how sick e no fit slim like goat...No matter how chemists compete with pharmacists,pharmacy will always be more lucrative than dentistry.... Chikena....... Or do u want to start comparibg pharmacy with dentistry? Abeg o.... 4 Likes |
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