homesteady:


My friend don't dare compare a Dentist qualification with an Optometrist! You should stop arguing things you are ignorant about!
Do optometrists learn anatomy, biochemistry and physiology in details? Do they learn Pathology and Pharmacology? Did they read medicine and surgery? So how would you place both of them on the same level in medical hierarchy? What does an optometrist even know in the body? they are not even the bosses in their field!
MBBS - this is the degree awarded to medicine and surgery students, is their Doctor there? so according to your wrapped thinking, they are not doctors?

homesteady:


My friend don't dare compare a Dentist qualification with an Optometrist! You should stop arguing things you are ignorant about!
Do optometrists learn anatomy, biochemistry and physiology in details? Do they learn Pathology and Pharmacology? Did they read medicine and surgery? So how would you place both of them on the same level in medical hierarchy? What does an optometrist even know in the body? they are not even the bosses in their field!
MBBS - this is the degree awarded to medicine and surgery students, is their Doctor there? so according to your wrapped thinking, they are not doctors?

Metrofox:

Lol..hungry dentist misleading the general public , try leaving the comfort of government work and set up private make hunger wound you.. Optometry is simply politicized in Nigeria due to black man mentality.
In the USA it's a post graduate course(studies after a 4yr basic science course) just like medicine and they are the first doctors to be seen regarding eye health(primary eye care) before referral to any other health practitioner including the opthalmologist.

They deal directly with the optician who cuts and glazes the spectacle prescription , they are solely in charge of lenses including contacts. some opthalmologists just try to be greedy and can't give you a proper refraction.
Ophthalmologist are mainly in charge of the surgical aspects which even come once in a blue moon due to the fact that most people that require eye surgeries except for some rare cases do do in their old age (senile degeneration)e.g cataracts
Prescribing drugs is something both an optometrists and opthalmologists generally can do and it's not so lucrative because most drugs used are not that expensive even the most expensive for glaucoma (3k-4k).. In private practice an optometrist is far ahead of a dentist even in the north where dentists get the most patronage..

Metrofox:

Lol..hungry dentist misleading the general public , try leaving the comfort of government work and set up private make hunger wound you.. Optometry is simply politicized in Nigeria due to black man mentality.
In the USA it's a post graduate course(studies after a 4yr basic science course) just like medicine and they are the first doctors to be seen regarding eye health(primary eye care) before referral to any other health practitioner including the opthalmologist.

They deal directly with the optician who cuts and glazes the spectacle prescription , they are solely in charge of lenses including contacts. some opthalmologists just try to be greedy and can't give you a proper refraction.
Ophthalmologist are mainly in charge of the surgical aspects which even come once in a blue moon due to the fact that most people that require eye surgeries except for some rare cases do do in their old age (senile degeneration)e.g cataracts
Prescribing drugs is something both an optometrists and opthalmologists generally can do and it's not so lucrative because most drugs used are not that expensive even the most expensive for glaucoma (3k-4k).. In private practice an optometrist is far ahead of a dentist even in the north where dentists get the most patronage..

Lagusta:


you are correct, but not too correct....

opthalmologists see more than cataracts or glaucoma....

in fact, in the north I'm sure they see more retinoblastoma patients than cataracts.....

what of eye trauma and lacerations, what of eye burns, what of lens detachment or retinal detachment

or am I talking trash here

Drdonzeez:
From your analogy,optometry is ahead of medicine in a private setting?

Metrofox:


I don't recall talking about medicine here..I hope you know medicine is a very old and broad field of practice. I don't know how you interpret your statements..go through my write up again if it's not very clear

Metrofox:


I don't recall talking about medicine here..I hope you know medicine is a very old and broad field of practice. I don't know how you interpret your statements..go through my write up again if it's not very clear

Lagusta:


please lets take things easy here....

an optometrist is always awarded an OD (Doctor of optometry) and is always given the "Dr" title....

the MBBS degree is getting outdated, Nigeria needs to move on, MD is far better....

and yes, optometry is a very lucrative job, as you see them working in teaching and general hospitals hand-in-hand with opthalmologists....

so abeg make we chill small

HighIQ:
hahahaha so they did not even do anatomy, physioogy and co. And they call themselves a doc. Anyway let's leave them. All profession are good in as much you have passion for it. I don't want to belittle any profession further

Metrofox:


Retinoblastoma occurs in 1 out of 10000 CHILDREN
Cataract is the leading cause of blindness WORLDWIDE, so where's your logic here? Or you just used the word retinoblastoma because it sounds fancy...
You're more likely to see a case of allergic conjunctivitis than lens detachment, retinal detachment,trauma and lacerations COMBINED. do your research

Lagusta:


during my medical school days I saw three cases of retinoblastoma, and I saw five during my house job....

and it doesn't sound fancy to me, watch the way you talk to people

Drdonzeez:
I asked a question.since,you presume Optometry is far ahead of Dentistry,then,it is also ahead of medicine.comparing Dentistry with optometry is just like comparing Barcelona with warri wolves.Dentists are more respected and far ahead anywhere in the world.I don't really fartom the meaning of private practise here because there are no restrictions in private practise.Anybody can set up a hospital/ clinic provided he has the financial back up and he employs staff as he wants: Non medical persons can establish clinics,he does not practise..In Nigeria ,there is residency program for Dentistry unlike optometry which automaticaly makes you a consultant.then ,you'll be in grade level 15 whereas an optometrist languishes in 10 or 12..so,Dentistry is far better. dentistry should be compared with medicine( No need for comparisons since they are brothers)not slave' like optometry.its an insult.

Metrofox:

I always crack up when I see a dentist trying to raise their tiny voice..dentists are dead weight..& just attached to life support courtesy of medicine..most people in dentistry couldn't make it into medicine and just want to 'belong' .by the way I was not talking about opening a clinic..of course anybody can do that..but the crux of the matter is profitability (how lucrative?) .and you just can't compare with optometry bro..learn to live with that...people don't mind losing a teeth or two anyway

P.S if someone collapses in front of a dentist,you still have to dial 911

Metrofox:

so you saw 8 cases of retinoblastoma in 8 or 9 years , do you know many cataract cases are seen every year? please don't let the statistics embarrass you..by the way the way I sound is subject to your interpretation, which is entirely your own doing and your own business..

HighIQ:
don't u know that dental students and medical students offers virtually the same course in the university until part 5. It is obvious u don't know what you are saying. You optometric are not important in anyway, an opthalmologist who is a medical doctor can do your job. Even an optician is better than you guys. You will never hear of Nigeria medical and optometry council but instead Nigeria medical and dental council. Optometry is under faculty of science, dentistry is an health science course. Oau Ui and many uni don't offer your course when we already have qualified opthalmologist. Don't say dentistry is not highly patronise go to any general hospital or luth and visit their dental section and see the huge queue. How do you know people don't visit a dentist. Will someone who visited a dentist tell you he just visited one. Although I'm not a dental student but I must tell you dentistry is far better to optometry in all ramnification. If you. have highiq. and you own a dental clinic, with the help of God you can make your dental clinc so popular that many guys esp in this fashion days wld av visited your clinic at least once to brace etc. No be only celebrity dey visit dental clinic. Advertise on tv radio and many media and tell them what u can. do. I assure u a lot of ladies and guys wld be interested. And you wld av huge crowd per week.

HighIQ:
don't u know that dental students and medical students offers virtually the same course in the university until part 5. It is obvious u don't know what you are saying. You optometric are not important in anyway, an opthalmologist who is a medical doctor can do your job. Even an optician is better than you guys. You will never hear of Nigeria medical and optometry council but instead Nigeria medical and dental council. Optometry is under faculty of science, dentistry is an health science course. Oau Ui and many uni don't offer your course when we already have qualified opthalmologist. Don't say dentistry is not highly patronise go to any general hospital or luth and visit their dental section and see the huge queue. How do you know people don't visit a dentist. Will someone who visited a dentist tell you he just visited one. Although I'm not a dental student but I must tell you dentistry is far better to optometry in all ramnification. If you. have highiq. and you own a dental clinic, with the help of God you can make your dental clinc so popular that many guys esp in this fashion days wld av visited your clinic at least once to brace etc. No be only celebrity dey visit dental clinic. Advertise on tv radio and many media and tell them what u can. do. I assure u a lot of ladies and guys wld be interested. And you wld av huge crowd per week.

Lagusta:


you are trying to prove a point, I am also proving mine....

the bottom line is, it still adds up to the same direction.....

I totally agree that cataract cases are commoner, but I'm also stressing the point that retinoblastoma cases are getting commoner nowadays....

that's all I have to say for now, thanks.....

nice meeting you....

Metrofox:

Firstly I'm not an optometrist and secondly you obviously are not in the medical field even if you are you might be in one mushroom university claiming medical student..where they bake quacks.if you're a Dr, you'll know that you're not allowed to advertise your practise in the media. Secondly try to be more exposed before making points..apart from one university in Nigeria,optometry is under the faculty of health sciences..Thirdly on the difference between Optometrist,Opthalmologist and optician,pls read up my previous post..Fourtly reading a course is a different ball game from practice so I shake my head when I see dentists living in denial..anybody can read a textbook in school..what's so new about the courses dentists do along with medical students? Anatomy,Physiology,Biochemistry? Mind you pharmacists read these courses too..find out

HighIQ:
there you go again. Who will stop you from advertising ur clinic on radio or channels tv. Anyway will they stop you from erecting a large banner as well? If you install your clinic at a strategic locationns... And again it is not only people with pain that visit dentists. Infact people do not need to plan before coming to your clinic as anybody can branch into any dental shop on sighting your clinc to whitening or brace or remove mouth odor. And again what are u saying? I have friends studying pharmacy and I want to tell u the anatomy they do is very diff from that of dental and medical students. They do not go into details den andmedics

homesteady:


My friend don't dare compare a Dentist qualification with an Optometrist! You should stop arguing things you are ignorant about!
Do optometrists learn anatomy, biochemistry and physiology in details? Do they learn Pathology and Pharmacology? Did they read medicine and surgery? So how would you place both of them on the same level in medical hierarchy? What does an optometrist even know in the body? they are not even the bosses in their field!
MBBS - this is the degree awarded to medicine and surgery students, is their Doctor there? so according to your wrapped thinking, they are not doctors?

HighIQ:
there you go again. Who will stop you from advertising ur clinic on radio or channels tv. Anyway will they stop you from erecting a large banner as well? If you install your clinic at a strategic locationns... And again it is not only people with pain that visit dentists. Infact people do not need to plan before coming to your clinic as anybody can branch into any dental shop on sighting your clinc to whitening or brace or remove mouth odor. And again what are u saying? I have friends studying pharmacy and I want to tell u the anatomy they do is very diff from that of dental and medical students. They do not go into details den andmedics

Metrofox:

I always crack up when I see a dentist trying to raise their tiny voice..dentists are dead weight..& just attached to life support courtesy of medicine..most people in dentistry couldn't make it into medicine and just want to 'belong' .by the way I was not talking about opening a clinic..of course anybody can do that..but the crux of the matter is profitability (how lucrative?) .and you just can't compare with optometry bro..learn to live with that...people don't mind losing a teeth or two anyway

P.S if someone collapses in front of a dentist,you still have to dial 911

originbm:


This guy are u sure you are even a medical student?
Health profesdions dobt advertise!Even Law chambers dont advertise!!
U dont know anything and u keep arguing....
Ur signboard as a clinic is not so much an advertisin item as a symbol of identification for the clinic....
Na wao...which kind school una dey go self?

Drdonzeez:
I asked a question.since,you presume Optometry is far ahead of Dentistry,then,it is also ahead of medicine.comparing Dentistry with optometry is just like comparing Barcelona with warri wolves.Dentists are more respected and far ahead anywhere in the world.I don't really fartom the meaning of private practise here because there are no restrictions in private practise.Anybody can set up a hospital/ clinic provided he has the financial back up and he employs staff as he wants: Non medical persons can establish clinics,he does not practise..In Nigeria ,there is residency program for Dentistry unlike optometry which automaticaly makes you a consultant.then ,you'll be in grade level 15 whereas an optometrist languishes in 10 or 12..so,Dentistry is far better. dentistry should be compared with medicine( No need for comparisons since they are brothers)not slave' like optometry.its an insult.

Drdonzeez:
From your analogy,optometry is ahead of medicine in a private setting?

originbm:



I will pick up ur points one after the other even though u r yet to learn the art of marshalling ur points....
1.Every semblage of prestige has is because they the are subservient to medicine....Without the patronage of medicine,dentistry is dead....
2.In case u dont know,there is residency training for optometrists which leads to award of FNCO, and FAAO. Politics in Nigeria has prevented the optometry consultants from practiccing to the full capacity of their training in tertiary health institutions.
An optometrist automatically starts lecturing as a lecturer 2 in universities just like a medical doctor.
3.Who is non clinical person....the amt of non-invasive proceedures an optometrist learns in school a dentist cannot come near it....I will list a few....
1.Opthalmoscopy-Direct and Indirect
2.Retinoscopy--Dynamic and Static
3.Biomicroscopy
4.Tonometry-Applanation and Indentation
5.Red Lens
6.Baggolini
7.Von Graffe
8.Worth 4 dot
5.Keratometry
6.Maddox rod and wings
7.Perimetry
8.Confrontation
9.Ductions
10.Near tests
Etc
Plus those in Visual rehabilitation and orthoptics....Tecniques in paediatric and geriatric ocular and visual diagnosis

Plus we treat all surgical proceedures didactically,plus every work up gor pre and post operative management of ocular px....
Like i said ,the grade 15 u r clutching to is because of professional rival and opyometry has not been very political because the pp is their domain.....
Optometry is typically private practice oriented world wide....
And in that field dentistry is a toddler.....
Thats y ur dept ia always wary of admitting people in order not to flood the market with jobless dentists.....

I hv never dreamt of comparing optometry with dentustry....dentistry is just hiding behind medicine to get their handouts from govt....

If pharmacy dey talk,i go even hear....which dentistry?
Laugh wan kill me.

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homesteady:


One of our lectures told us that from either next or upper JAMB set, the students would be required to get a degree in any of the pre-clinical courses before moving to clinical! Maybe thats when it would be upgraded to MD.

Drdonzeez:
your beefing won't change anything...thank God dentists can be CMDs.Lol.I'll never be a slave God forbid

originbm:


Nobody is beefing u
I am telling u an incontrovertible truth....Dentistry is not a money spinner in Nigeria,take it or leqve it...
If u r hoping to go into private practice and make money like an optometrist,pharmacist or medical doctor....forget it....
U r celebrating ur being able to be CMDs which is an accident of professional politics.....
Enjoy ur salary as CMD but if u r wise u wont invest in a dental clinic .Invest in molue business or pure water business instead.

Drdonzeez:
but Dentists will keep earning from CONMESS..optometrists keep forming union with porters.NB:anyone can establish a clinic. Roadside chemists are competing with pharmacists.