4kings:

The judea-christain religion

Eddlad:





Now you know this,read the word and realise several instances where God tried to used the israelites to help the world know that he was the one and only true God.

Questions are good but your tone depicts someone who thinks he has it figured out.

Weah96:
I have read the bible, quite extensively too.

Weah96:


Read which word? You should try reading mine. I have read the bible, quite extensively too.

Weah96:


Read which word? You should try reading mine. I have read the bible, quite extensively too.

Eddlad:


Well whatever you think you read,it hasn't done much good,regardless am here to try and help.

KingEbukaNaija:


Joke ?

Weah96:


Thanks for the offer. I may have been reading too fast and possibly skipped over the passages with the authentication. Can you point out those passages which indicate that the writers were:

1. Communicating with a non human being

2. The non human was the creator of the universe

4kings:

So u mean deeds by Mandela, Ghandi and several others are worthless to you, because of their beliefs.

KingEbukaNaija:


Huh ?

Eddlad:



Atheism is relatively new,in the beginning the most pertinent question wasn't whether or not God existed rather who was worshipping the right one.Man built many for himself and ascribed their beliefs to them
them.

Some however worshiped the one true God and became the israelites. Now you know this,read the word and realise several instances where God tried to used the israelites to help the world know that he was the one and only true God.

Questions are good but your tone depicts someone who thinks he has it figured out.

Eddlad:


Here is how you can understand this.

When a person sleeps the only time you are aware of is when sleep and when you wake up, essentially hours compress to a second,but all these hours are actually been "witnessed" by someone who is not asleep,they actually "live" the hours as they go by.

Then again Jesus relates death to sleep again and again,hope you understand.

raphieMontella:

proof urs is truer than islam?..oor mormon..?
Drop it

raphieMontella:

u didnnt read it?
Pls do...or lemme simplfy..
The hebrew word used to translate isiah 45:7 is 'ra' which means evil,sin and wickedness in a moral sense...
Modern day bible translators aware oof the tragedy this verse holds for their faith have attempted to soften its blow..by bringing calamity..woe and disaster...
Proof that 'ra' primarily meanns evil sin n wickedness...

Google search the following verses in hebrew with the host site biblehub.com
or u can jst directly go to biblehub.com ad select the hebrew bible...
Gen 2:17
gen6:5
gen 13:13
deut 1:35
judges 2:11
i kings 16:30
manny other more...all these verses make use of the hebrew word 'ra'..
Try applying calamity disaster and woe to these verses in english in replacement of 'ra'...
U'd see it doesnt fit..except for evil...nd wickednness or sin
this annd many other verses prove the original meaning of 'ra' is evil which is what isiah 45:7 tells us..nt punishing unbelievers
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace,
and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
—Isaiah 45:7 ,

raphieMontella:

what is the evidence for the soul?

Eddlad:


You don't believe God exists, how exactly will these passages help you,after all whoever wrote could just as easily added those two bits.

You don't know what you don't know and so you don't even know what to search for. There is hope though.

KingEbukaNaija:


So you believe God is omnipotent , omniscient & omnipresent ?

4kings:

No

Weah96:


No. Thats the point. Humans THEN lacked the technology to reveal a lot of natural phenomena. But a potential creator WOULD know everything and could use their ignorance to serve as proof to future skeptics.

KingEbukaNaija:





Fixed it for you bro .

KingEbukaNaija:


Wow , don't just say no . Provide cogent reasons why you disagree to those attributes

Eddlad:


Worthless to me? Who am I?

Decorating a toilet doesn't make it any easier eating from it, what can anyone call good done on this earth?Take time and digest this.

Eddlad:

Evidence for the soul? I don't understand.

KingEbukaNaija:


You are misconstruing that verse . Bro , ra can mean lots of things bad . It does not stick to one meaning . Its more of a context kind of interpretation .

4kings:

From an esoteric(Gnostic) understanding
God is all that there ever was, is, and will be, a spirit that dwell in our body(His House).
Meaning my view of the mainstream belief of god to be a seperate being is wrong, but in reality we are already ONE with God on a level that our limited egos can never fully comprehend nor understand.

The pneumatics in the early greece, which were the highest class of spiritual humans, realize gnosis, a personal, experiential knowledge allowing them to transcend the material world. They received direct revelation of Jesus Christ, the inner truth, or divine spark of Sophia (wisdom), which i belive was what paul and some early greek philosophers were really talking about.

You probably have not heard this before and wondering why i am equating your historical(which i dont agree) Jesus with inner revelation. I'm not on weed .

raphieMontella:

oh...uve read abt thos aeon's and emanations of god..lol

KingEbukaNaija:


You are misconstruing that verse . Bro , ra can mean lots of things bad . It does not stick to one meaning . Its more of a context kind of interpretation .

4kings:

From an esoteric(Gnostic) understanding
God is all that there ever was, is, and will be, a spirit that dwell in our body(His House).
Meaning my view of the mainstream belief of god to be a seperate being is wrong, but in reality we are already ONE with God on a level that our limited egos can never fully comprehend nor understand.

The pneumatics in the early greece, which were the highest class of spiritual humans, realize gnosis, a personal, experiential knowledge allowing them to transcend the material world. They received direct revelation of Jesus Christ, the inner truth, or divine spark of Sophia (wisdom), which i belive was what paul and some early greek philosophers were really talking about.

You probably have not heard this before and wondering why i am equating your historical(which i dont agree) Jesus with inner revelation. I'm not on weed .

4kings:

yep, u disagree?

Eddlad:


That would still mean nothing much really, possibly the "creators" of Christianity thought a bit more.

Weah96:


I'm 100% convinced that everyone who wrote that bible was on DRUGS, well, entheogens to be precise.

They are a class of psychotropic drugs that produce mind blowing hallucinations, or a completely altered state of consciousness. Call it dreaming while awake.

Each entheogen has its own non human entity. So if a group of people sat down and smoke peyote, they all see and communicate with the peyote god, who I believe is a female.

Likewise, psilocybin mushrooms tend to put you in contact with a male god during your visionary state.

The ancient Israelites had a local form of psychedelic drug which put them in contact with their tribal god Yahweh. The result of that is the bible.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/12/religion-as-a-product-of-psychotropic-drug-use/282484/

http://www.hiddenmeanings.com/Sermon10drugs.htm

http://entheology.com/peoples/revelation-a-psychdelic-vision/