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Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by omocheche(f): 10:40am On Jul 31, 2016
I tell you my brother, it very annoying one of the reason why i left my formal place. 4:45am they will come stout wake you up and go back just as i struggle to sleep again 5:30 they re back. It was very frustrating, even d said woman i use to hear her voice every morning cos since the news of her death i dont hear early morning cry anymore. May her soul rest in peace
bizme:
Very sad indeed, and Pst Adeboye has chosen that path of Christ.

Many questions however abound.

Why should someone use megaphone for morning cry? As a Christian if you do that in front of my house at 5 am or 6 am it is either I get out of the house and drive you away or charge you to court for disturbing my sleep. If I am interested in listening to your preaching I will come to your church.

What is wrong is wrong. It is wrong to disturb people in the name of religion. This as much affects the moslems who use loud speakers for morning prayers.

People should be decent and respect others' right to peaceful sleep.

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Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by kinglekan: 10:43am On Jul 31, 2016
DeRay98:


Don't cry more than the bereaved, it's the duty of govt to protect live and condemn.
He has done what calling requires of him to do, wether many like accept his action or not makes no diff.
If he's gone asking for vengeance critics would be once shouting "is that what the Bible says". Christ on the cross said "father, forgive them for they know not what they do".
This is the hard gospel which only deep and true believers know and understand.
She has been martyred. Let govt fight for justice to deter others.

Most people can't clearly differentiate the role of the government and religious leaders.

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Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by anataala: 10:44am On Jul 31, 2016
what is diplomacy about his speech? do you have any prove on who murdered the evangelist, it might be a Christian or a Muslim so only the outcome of the investigation will prove that, which religion do want him to condemn or blame for what happen.
naijacentric:
pastor adeboye needs to stop dis negative diplomacy and speak up publicly condemning dis religious intolerance i wish she was pastor adeboye's daughter i know its a different story we will hear may God forgive dis so called 'men of God'
Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by tmtech: 10:51am On Jul 31, 2016
kinglekan:


Really??

And how has all the "condemnation" stopped extremist groups like Boko haram, Al-Shabaab, al-Qaeda and ISIS? undecided

Do you have to condemn the act of murder before it is seen as wrong? undecided

How many times have the French government condemned the heinous acts being meted upon its citizens? How has it affected the conviction of those wrecking so much havoc?


condemning makes a lot of difference.
the nigerian govt had to change the school curriculum to incorporate this sensitization. for the first time, the Muslim community in france deny the Islamic terrorists that slit the throat of a bishop, a proper burial according to Islam.that makes their souls unacceptable ( what ever that means). why do pastor Nd imam preach and encourage good behavior ??. or dont u think people do already know? let all the Islamic clerics and Arab leaders come out and condemn Islamic terrorism. the truth is u don't just keep mum when things like this happen.

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Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by tunjijones(m): 10:52am On Jul 31, 2016
tmtech:

It would have been better if he had added that justice will be served. He cant revenge, everybody knows that. but the perpetrators committed a crime against the state not just the redeemed church. more so, the woman's family too have the own view, baba can't speak for all. justice must be served. you can't just go around killing everybody that annoys you and think nothing is going to happen.

That's true anyway. The crime is not against rccg but against the fg. Yea baba shd condemn the act and hope the criminals are brought to book.
Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by Nobody: 10:53am On Jul 31, 2016
pimpchi:
Touching, God help us.
"The venger is mine" says the Lord.....
Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by anataala: 10:54am On Jul 31, 2016
The same thing every Sunday in some areas in my state Christian will block federal roads disturb us with a very high loudspeakers park their cars in front of our premises and even with that we tolerate them because we knew is just for some hours they will be through and leave so is both religion, do not try to push blame on anyone, don't be sentimental by the way, which prove or evidence do you have on the people that murdered the woman, because the outcome of the investigation is not yet out, you can't blame any faith, for now, it might be your fellow Christian or a fellow Muslim, but whoever killed the woman will surely meet the wrath of God, our prayer is for Almighty Allah to expose her killers even if the are amongst our family members.
tmtech:

over-react? u haven't noticed that she was not killed because she was disturbing peoples peace, rather she was killed by some radical savages. its not a crime in most Nigeria states to preach with a megaphone.in my area, every Friday the Hausa Muslims block half of the federal road to observe their prayers. this has been happening for years and none of them was attacked for this. so, when you say over react, you are kinda exonerating the murderer.
Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by Nobody: 10:54am On Jul 31, 2016
Vengeance is of the lord
Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by tunjijones(m): 10:55am On Jul 31, 2016
[quote author=donbrowser post=48049744]
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Stupid Post from a nitwit
Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by graphiti: 10:57am On Jul 31, 2016
greatgod2012:
Sir, nobody is asking anyone to seek vengeance, all that is being asked is that such acts should be vehemently condemned publicly. Your silence sir, as well as that of other great MOGs in this country reeks of either cowardice or hypocrisy or both .



Not condemning the acts at all makes these evil doers to see us as not valuing ourselves and such gives them the audacity to continue.









U guys have bastardize d word 'coward/cowardice'. Most times u confuse 'stupidity/rashness' with 'bravery'.

The other 'brave' fellow dt led close to 2 million souls to their grave in 1967-70 ended up scampering to safety in Ivory Coast like a thief in d night after d 'IGG' - so much for 'bravery' (sic).




Moreover, if we 'fight 4 our god'
like d 'other religion' does, what
makes us different from d
terrorists causing destruction
worldwide all in d name of
'fighting 4 God'?






Cc kgdavid

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Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by Nobody: 10:58am On Jul 31, 2016
4dor:


This thread is about the death of an innocent woman, that post had five paragraphs, just one (a sentence) talked about how sad the situation was.

Four other paragraphs was devoted to criticise people that preach with megaphones early in the morning. So you tell me if I'm twisting words or if comprehension is rocket science to you.

You still haven't answered my question. Go back to my post and answer my question.
Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by degyoniro(m): 10:59am On Jul 31, 2016
religion is a fucking fuxk up, this not vengeance but justice, some one was saying that what we Christian do...forgive hun, let the killer be brought to deck.....religion if you don't kill you will be killed
Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by Vincent41(m): 11:01am On Jul 31, 2016
frubben:
I just wish and hope that he would say same thing if it was his own daughter that was the victim.

God would help us all!!!!!!


let him talk,his own corruption Book will be Opened...Useless Set of Religious Fanatics.....she will go to heaven same with those who killed her...Notin was done about her killing,No Protest notin.......
Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by pee777(m): 11:01am On Jul 31, 2016
frubben:
I just wish and hope that he would say same thing if it was his own daughter that was the victim.

God would help us all!!!!!!

Because when it comes to others we are quick to preach and teach mercy

But ours we take up the sword.

Just saying my mind

Taking the sword is not out of place either if to institute order, but above all show much love to all even the unsaved.
Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by MakaveliTheDon(m): 11:01am On Jul 31, 2016
let's stop acting like god you don't know the extent of thing until it reaches you.
These people who are killed are the real Christian being persecuted .
you are either in the head quarters in Lagos preaching or oversea countries yet the extremist (Christian) are the one suffering the consequences and yet you reply would be "God giveth God Taketh "

Nigeria is filled with extremist who at the expense of themselves enrich their pastors

Nigerian has the highest no of rich pastors home and abroad yet what do the pastors do for them? nothing than to extort them through the bible passages until we stand on our ground and say no to this we continue to be in this mess. "Pastors travelling in planes with escorts and convoys members preaching on the street with dangers of being butchered and brutalised at any time and they say your reward is in heaven
What about Theirs ? Earth?
Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by tmtech: 11:04am On Jul 31, 2016
anataala:
The same thing every Sunday in some areas in my state Christian will block federal roads disturb us with a very high loudspeakers park their cars in front of our premises and even with that we tolerate them because we knew is just for some hours they will be through and leave so is both religion, do not try to push blame on anyone, don't be sentimental by the way, which prove or evidence do you have on the people that murdered the woman, because the outcome of the investigation is not yet out, you can't blame any faith, for now, it might be your fellow Christian or a fellow Muslim, but whoever killed the woman will surely meet the wrath of God, our prayer is for Almighty Allah to expose her killers even if the are amongst our family members.
mind you, I only cited an instance, not a generalization. still, one must be a radical savage to commit murder. get ma point??
didn't blame no religion for her death, but for someone to downplay her death by linking it to overreaction, that is ridiculous

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Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by Vincent41(m): 11:04am On Jul 31, 2016
bizme:
Very sad indeed, and Pst Adeboye has chosen that path of Christ.

Many questions however abound.

Why should someone use megaphone for morning cry? As a Christian if you do that in front of my house at 5 am or 6 am it is either I get out of the house and drive you away or charge you to court for disturbing my sleep. If I am interested in listening to your preaching I will come to your church.

What is wrong is wrong. It is wrong to disturb people in the name of religion. This as much affects the moslems who use loud speakers for morning prayers.

People should be decent and respect others' right to peaceful sleep.

u are quick to condem the use of Megafone,what of Mosques that has Loud speakers??..ive been to zamafra state,early morning and nite this speakers goes so loud.....Relgious Fanatics..evil is evil
Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by Jacko1(m): 11:05am On Jul 31, 2016
Ohhhhhhhhhhh




But if person thief offering from camp..... Generational curse go follow am


Daddy curse all their génération oh...... Curse them I take God beg you


Is money now more important

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Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by Vincent41(m): 11:06am On Jul 31, 2016
yeyeboi:
Moral Lesson : Never Pay Evil With Evil,Be quick to forgive and Let GOD fight your battle

tell that to Buhari and his moslem brothers

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Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by Forwetinnah: 11:07am On Jul 31, 2016
greatgod2012:
Sir, nobody is asking anyone to seek vengeance, all that is being asked is that such acts should be vehemently condemned publicly. Your silence sir, as well as that of other great MOGs in this country reeks of either cowardice or hypocrisy or both.



Not condemning the acts at all makes these evil doers to see us as not valuing ourselves and such gives them the audacity to continue.







God will bless you my dearest...this is the same thing ive been saying, why should they keep quiet about such things. Speak out openly and condemn it for Christ's sake!! . What is martyrdom?

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Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by Forwetinnah: 11:09am On Jul 31, 2016
Jacko1:
Ohhhhhhhhhhh




But if person thief offering from camp..... Generational curse go follow am


Daddy curse all their génération oh...... Curse them I take God beg you


Is money now more important




You dey mind am?
Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by Reference(m): 11:09am On Jul 31, 2016
Well understood sir, and I share the same opinion, that you cannot conquer hate with hate, and that the Christianity we are a part of, the faith we met and will leave behind when we depart from this world is clear on this.

But what will you say about the accounts of Acts 12:1 -4+.
Because this incident will please a section and the pleasure will drive a widening and deepening of the problem. In the Bible, Peter was taken as well and if not FOR PHYSICAL INTERVENTION, his release from prison by angelic intervention, he wil have been WASTED as well. And I will emphasize wasted because I consider the life of a frontline Christian too precious to be wasted like that. Sorry to say so but if it was Pastor Adeboye slayed like that in the course of doing God's work or Kumuyi or Oyedepo and so on...will thousands, millions of Christians and unbelievers alike not suffer untold consequences.... What we are saying is that one life is not more important than the other and these terrible incidents though forgiven must be addressed like the church did in the time of the apostles, both physically and spiritually.
Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by greatessien(m): 11:09am On Jul 31, 2016
well no one can fight for God.this kind of death did not start today,it started from the time of christ and the apostles.
Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by Jacko1(m): 11:10am On Jul 31, 2016
graphiti:




U guys have bastardize d word 'coward/cowardice'. Most times u confuse 'stupidity/rashness' with 'bravery'.

The other 'brave' fellow dt led close to 2 million souls to their grave in 1967-70 ended up scampering to safety in Ivory Coast like a thief in d night after d 'IGG' - so much for 'bravery' (sic).


Moreover, if we 'fight 4 our god' like d 'other religion' does, what makes us different from d terrorists causing destruction worldwide all in d name of 'fighting 4 God'?








You dont even know if he is ibo

You call a whole ibo hero names..
...

Ok name calling time


D bastard AWOLOWO..... Father and maker of touts
Most two mouthed nigga ever produced
Servant of his fulani masters
Inventor of dirtiness
Premier of stupid race

Lubbish..... Add a bit of Samuel crowther and Abraham Adesanya id you wish


Ewu like you
Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by donbrowser(m): 11:11am On Jul 31, 2016
Lol
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Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by polabo: 11:13am On Jul 31, 2016
Vengeance is the Lord's. Those killers will not end well..
Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by Forwetinnah: 11:14am On Jul 31, 2016
shamecurls:
“Anger is an essential part of being human. People are taught to deny themselves anger, and in this, they are actually opening themselves up to hate. The more you deny yourself the freedom to be angry, the more you will hate. Let yourself be angry, and hate will disintegrate, and when hate disintegrates, forgiveness prevails! The more you deny that you are angry, in attempts to be [size=13pt]"HOLY"[/size] the more inhuman you will become, and the more inhuman you will become, the harder it will be to forgive.”

― C. JoyBell C.

Thank you!! That incident was an unnecessary provocation!! First a pastor's wife was killed in Kano and then another in Abuja...who will be next?! And they're there singing "Lord bind us together with love that cannot be broken". Seriooously?!!

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Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by kinglekan: 11:19am On Jul 31, 2016
tmtech:

condemning makes a lot of difference.
the nigerian govt had to change the school curriculum to incorporate this sensitization. for the first time, the Muslim community in the French deny the Islamic terrorists that slit the throat of a bishop, a proper burial according to Islam.that makes their souls unacceptable ( what ever that means). why do pastor Nd imam preach and encourage good behavior ??. or do u think people do already know?


You can't predicate your argument on religious leaders encouraging good behaviour and every rational-minded individual knowing fully well that murder is a heinous act. You don't need a religion to tell you that taking the life of someone else is absolutely wrong. Good thing you made mention of sensitization, but tbh any individual who can be brainwashed to kill someone and think it is the right thing to do, should question their humanity and very existence.



let all the Islamic clerics and Arab leaders come out and condemn Islamic terrorism. the truth is u don't just keep mum when things like this happen.

And you think they haven't been doing so? No one is saying people should keep mute over the death of innocent lives. But my point is condemning alone hasn't really done much. When bad things happen the expected impulse would be to criticize and condemn the act but that has never been enough.

Let the government find those responsible for the capital offence and let them face justice. As long as those responsible for these inhumane acts are left roaming the streets it's only a matter of time before they feel invisible and strike again.

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Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by Nobody: 11:20am On Jul 31, 2016
frubben:
I just wish and hope that he would say same thing if it was his own daughter that was the victim.

God would help us all!!!!!!
trust me he would, even if he only have one. That is just the sweetness of Christianity- such matters are left to God, in agony.

You can also give your life to Christ and be saved.

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Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by AuroraB(f): 11:20am On Jul 31, 2016
kinglekan:


And how exactly do you propose this issue is "nipped in the bud"?

What do you think? Or, you jumped in to just quote me If you followed or know the dissenting view of a few on this thread, you'd moonwalk outta my mentions sad
Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by graphiti: 11:20am On Jul 31, 2016
Kgdavid:
politically yorubas are the epitome of cowardly


Jacko1:




You dont even know if he is ibo

You call a whole ibo hero names..
...

Ok name calling time


D bastard AWOLOWO..... Father and maker of touts
Most two mouthed nigga ever produced
Servant of his fulani masters
Inventor of dirtiness
Premier of stupid race

Lubbish..... Add a bit of Samuel crowther and Abraham Adesanya id you wish


Ewu like you


Hahahahahahahaha...... guilty conscience!




Your 'hero' was only brot in2 d pix 2 show dt efrytinz is not all about brashness!

The effects of d brashness of your 'hero' is still being felt till 2day.

Moreover, d 2 'heroes' aren't on d same pedestal. When confronted with ignomy, one rather chose death (by suicide) than face shame, while d other chose shame (by running away) than die!

Bottomline: civility is not d same as cowardice just as brashness doesn't connote bravery

Lmfao..... Rotf!

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Re: Why I Won't Seek Vengeance Against Killers Of Abuja Preacher- Adeboye by kikake: 11:25am On Jul 31, 2016
New Testament Bible forbids vengeance.

Besides, it's a brotherly fight - SW person was killed by northern Jihadists.

SW and Northern Nigeria are increasingly joined together by Islam, as more and more Yoruba convert to Islam, more so, in the last 17 years when Yorubas who look forward to the Sokoto Caliphate for directions have led the Southwest region politically.

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