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Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by analice107: 10:36pm On Sep 22, 2016
lexiconkabir:
the OT was mutilated by the jews without recognition, so it wont favour Ishmael and his decendants, for example 2samuel17:25 says jethro(also know as ithra) was an isrealite while 1chronicles2:17 says he is an ishmaelite. why the confusion? according to the Qur'an jethro(known as shuaib in arabic) was a decendant of ishmael making him an ishmaelite, who knows, maybe the verse that says ishmael was cursed is another rotten lie by the jews in the OT.
hahahahaha. see as sand full your mouth. You cant even put your words straight.

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Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by analice107: 11:04pm On Sep 22, 2016
lexiconkabir:
The bible that didnt know if jethro was an ishmaelite or an isrealite(1chronicles2:17 vs 2samuels17:25) cant be trusted on this, get that into your flat skull.

And the koran knew that Mary the mother of Jesus was the same as Mirriam the sister of Moses and Aaron right?

stop screeching like a cracked CD player, it only goes to show your desperation to hide Mo's depravity.

Mo was the worst cursed man who ever lived. With all the sex he had, he didn't have one single child male or female to carry his name.

As a Yoruba man, You should Wole Soyinka's "The Tragedy of a Goat', To see what it means for a man not to have a male child, talk less of any child at all.

Guy Pick "Muhammed Vs The People" and read, you'll be shamed to identify with that cursed demons possessed lunatic call Muhammed.
I feel like throwing up.

Satan had used people in this world to perpetrate evil, but Muhammed was the highest of them all. Lucifer himself lived inside of that bum.
ahh, the part of hell that that man will be in.
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by Nobody: 11:13pm On Sep 22, 2016
analice107:


And the koran knew that Mary the mother of Jesus was the same as Mirriam the sister of Moses and Aaron right?

stop screeching like a cracked CD player, it only goes to show your desperation to hide Mo's depravity.

Mo was the worst cursed man who ever lived. With all the sex he had, he didn't have one single child male or female to carry his name.

As a Yoruba man, You should Wole Soyinka's "The Tragedy of a Goat', To see what it means for a man not to have a male child, talk less of any child at all.

Guy Pick "Muhammed Vs The People" and read, you'll be shamed to identify with that cursed demons possessed lunatic call Muhammed.
I feel like throwing up.

Satan had used people in this world to perpetrate evil, but Muhammed was the highest of them all. Lucifer himself lived inside of that bum.
ahh, the part of hell that that man will be in.

Are you drunk again?
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by analice107: 11:50pm On Sep 22, 2016
lexiconkabir:


Are you drunk again?
Have you ever given me drink? If i drink, i wont hide and pretend about it. Am not a pretentious Muslim who lie about not drinking alcohol but feels his/ her Kettle with it.

Answer the question.
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by Jeromejnr(m): 5:16am On Sep 23, 2016
analice107:

Hello My Love, You are still in NL? Long time no see ya nose.

Sup my queen? I am still very much much on NL. Mostly 'read only' these days. Sometimes too busy to post.

What have you been up to?
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by alfarouq(m): 5:42am On Sep 23, 2016
analice107:

Have you ever given me drink? If i drink, i wont hide and pretend about it. Am not a pretentious Muslim who lie about not drinking alcohol but feels his/ her Kettle with it.

Answer the question.
Like I told the op and your partner your hatred for Muslims and the ishmaelites will land you nothing but the wrath of GOD. He that God has blessed no one can undermine not to talk of laying a curse on him.
Your bible said in mathew 23:37 that God replied Abraham and as for Ishmael, I have heard thee. Behold, I have BLESSED him, I will make him a great nation.
This is an explicit statement that shows that God himself said I have blessed him.
Can you please also show us an explicit statement where God cursed him.
Do you then call your biblical God a liar. Do you believe in some parts that suit your whims and read meaning into parts that do otherwise
This iswhat a curse looks like
Ye serpents, ye generation if vipers, how can you escape the damnation of hell? Wherefore, behold, I sent unto you generation of prophets and wise men, some of them you killed and crucify and some of them shall you scourge in your synagogues and persecute them from city to city that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth from the blood of righteous Abel up to that zechariah whom you slew between the temple and the altar.
Verily, I say unto you, all this things shall come upon this generation. Mathew 23: 30-38
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by analice107: 10:16pm On Sep 23, 2016
Jeromejnr:


Sup my queen? I am still very much much on NL. Mostly 'read only' these days. Sometimes too busy to post.

What have you been up to?
Av been here missing you. Didn't know you were in the shadows.
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by analice107: 11:09pm On Sep 23, 2016
alfarouq:

Like I told the op and your partner your hatred for Muslims and the ishmaelites will land you nothing but the wrath of GOD. He that God has blessed no one can undermine not to talk of laying a curse on him.
Your bible said in mathew 23:37 that God replied Abraham and as for Ishmael, I have heard thee. Behold, I have BLESSED him, I will make him a great nation.
This is an explicit statement that shows that God himself said I have blessed him.
Can you please also show us an explicit statement where God cursed him.
Do you then call your biblical God a liar. Do you believe in some parts that suit your whims and read meaning into parts that do otherwise
This iswhat a curse looks like
Ye serpents, ye generation if vipers, how can you escape the damnation of hell? Wherefore, behold, I sent unto you generation of prophets and wise men, some of them you killed and crucify and some of them shall you scourge in your synagogues and persecute them from city to city that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth from the blood of righteous Abel up to that zechariah whom you slew between the temple and the altar.
Verily, I say unto you, all this things shall come upon this generation. Mathew 23: 30-38


This is Matt 23:37

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Matthew:23:37


What are you talking about?

Aren't you ashamed of yourself that you can quote this Jewish Scriptures to backup your lies?

Those Prophets referred to there, how many of them were Arabs?

And, even if the Jews killed their prophets, at least they didn't kill Muhammed, Allah and his council of gods did.

The council of Allahs, declared that if any prophet fabricates what they didn't give to him, they will cut off his Aorta. Here it is


Tafsir Jalalayn (And if he, namely the prophet, fabricates any lies against US by communicating what WE have not said, WE would assuredly seized him, WE would have exacted vengeance against him as punishment by OUR right hand, by OUR strength and power, and WE would have assuredly severed his AORTA which will lead to his death.

The above was said by Allahs. (Only God knows how Allahs you have)

And here is muhammed and his severed Aorta.

...I continued to feel pain from the morsel i have eaten at Khaibar. This is the time when it has cut off my AORTA.



The council of Allahs said, the way they will kill a false prophet was to cut off his Aorta, and muhammed confirmed his aorta was cut after eating the goat meat.

SO, WHO KILLED MUHAMMED? THE JEWS OR ALLAH and his companion?

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Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by alfarouq(m): 5:32am On Sep 24, 2016
analice107:



This is Matt 23:37

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Matthew:23:37


What are you talking about?

Aren't you ashamed of yourself that you can quote this Jewish Scriptures to backup your lies?

Those Prophets referred to there, how many of them were Arabs?

And, even if the Jews killed their prophets, at least they didn't kill Muhammed, Allah and his council of gods did.

The council of Allahs, declared that if any prophet fabricates what they didn't give to him, they will cut off his Aorta. Here it is


Tafsir Jalalayn (And if he, namely the prophet, fabricates any lies against US by communicating what WE have not said, WE would assuredly seized him, WE would have exacted vengeance against him as punishment by OUR right hand, by OUR strength and power, and WE would have assuredly severed his AORTA which will lead to his death.

The above was said by Allahs. (Only God knows how Allahs you have)

And here is muhammed and his severed Aorta.

...I continued to feel pain from the morsel i have eaten at Khaibar. This is the time when it has cut off my AORTA.



The council of Allahs said, the way they will kill a false prophet was to cut off his Aorta, and muhammed confirmed his aorta was cut after eating the goat meat.

SO, WHO KILLED MUHAMMED? THE JEWS OR ALLAH and his companion?
For the verse I quoted first, I made a mistake its genesis 17:20, I was typing in a hurry which made me mix it up with the second verse mathew23: 37.
Nothwithstanding, if you study your bible well you must have known that such verse exists and it was a mix up.
As for the other part, its Mathew 23 verse 30 to 38.
May be you could write it out for us
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by Jeromejnr(m): 8:08am On Sep 24, 2016
analice107:

Av been here missing you. Didn't know you were in the shadows.

Yea. The shadows are as important as the light. There's a lot to glean from there.

I shall pen my contributions once in a while.

I see you are still taking out the rebels cheesy
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by reallest(f): 8:35am On Sep 24, 2016
plappville:


Go and tell that to Muhammad whom his angel gabriel corrected allah on how many times you should pray. Ur allah didnt know you cant pray 50 times a day.

I dont have ur time. If i should. You will get tired.

Do what ask u to do or shut d Bleep up,whats my business with Muhammad or Allah?y can't ur Yahweh stop mere mortal from destroying his plan if he is not clueless
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by udatso: 11:24am On Sep 24, 2016
Plappville
Let's assume you are right (God cursed Ishmael).
Why was he cursed by God? What crime did he commit?

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Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by Blackfire(m): 11:26am On Sep 24, 2016
plappville:


I got ur points. It can be very annoying knowing that Muslims take advantage of the fact that Jesus said we should love our enemies. Those who want to kill you are evidently ur enemies. Yet you are call on to love them. This is a sign of total LOVE. You are not to revenge but allow God to do it at your place. Again, i dont see the sword as a physical one. Remember Peter brought out a sword. He might have misunderstood Jesus when he told them to buy a sword. The proof is when Jesus stopped him and healed the soldiers ear that was cut off. If you read further you will get the mesaage clearly.

It is wrong for a pastor to encorage his members to fight back with violence. Christinity is supposed to be a model to other violent religion. The apostles were arrested several times and beaten. God used his angels to set them free from prison. Thats how it is supposed to be. He allows things to happen for a purpose. It doesnt means He is weak. We know that at the time the Gospel have not spread as it should. God protected the disciplines so that they could spread it. But they later were persecuted and killed which fulfilled the prophecy of Jesus.


Romans 12:19 ►
Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord.


We ought to put this verse to practice.

mathew 26:51-53
51At this, one of Jesus’ companions drew his sword and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear. 52“Put your sword back in its place, Jesus said to him. “For all who draw the sword will die by the sword. 53Are you not aware that I can call on My Father, and He will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?…


if u come to my house with 4 thugs to attack my family... and am the one you will go through first..

I swear by every wickedness in me from my fourth generation that I will spill there blood, and I won't 've no regrets.

islam is killing wonderful creatures... bright futures, and u expect me to watch them do my family... even devil and alusi okija knows I will fight with every means necessary.
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by analice107: 2:47pm On Sep 24, 2016
Jeromejnr:


Yea. The shadows are as important as the light. There's a lot to glean from there.

I shall pen my contributions once in a while.

I see you are still taking out the rebels cheesy

Hahahahahaha. Trying my best sweety.

Do well to lighten up this place once in a while, or what's the use of you hording all that wisdom?
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by analice107: 2:51pm On Sep 24, 2016
alfarouq:

For the verse I quoted first, I made a mistake its genesis 17:20, I was typing in a hurry which made me mix it up with the second verse mathew23: 37.
Nothwithstanding, if you study your bible well you must have known that such verse exists and it was a mix up.
As for the other part, its Mathew 23 verse 30 to 38.
May be you could write it out for us
Thats very funny to mistake Gen 17:20 with Mat 23:37. That is some haste.

Why shd i do your job? You want to prove a point, go ahead and do it yourself.

I see you are good at quoting scriptures out of context. Only satan does that. Watch it.
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by Jeromejnr(m): 3:43pm On Sep 24, 2016
analice107:


Hahahahahaha. Trying my best sweety.

Do well to lighten up this place once in a while, or what's the use of you hording all that wisdom?


Indeed I shall my lady.

Btw, Lol@ d council of allahs.
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by udatso: 3:51pm On Sep 24, 2016
udatso:
Plappville
Let's assume you are right (God cursed Ishmael).
Why was he cursed by God? What crime did he commit?
Quoting again just incase you didn't see the first mention
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by analice107: 4:05pm On Sep 24, 2016
Jeromejnr:


Indeed I shall my lady.

Btw, Lol@ d council of allahs.

Yes nah, the guys kept saying, "We, Us, and Our.

The only place i saw a single individual addressing himself as "We" was the demoniac at the city of Gadarenes, where Jesus asked him to identify himself.


And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for "WE" are many.
Mark:5:9

There has to be more than one allah.
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by udatso: 2:13pm On Sep 26, 2016
udatso:
Plappville
Let's assume you are right (God cursed Ishmael).
Why was he cursed by God? What crime did he commit?
Quoting for the second time because I am yet to get a reply to this question. Plappville please help answer this question
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by plappville(f): 2:36pm On Sep 27, 2016
analice107:



This is Matt 23:37

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Matthew:23:37


What are you talking about?

Aren't you ashamed of yourself that you can quote this Jewish Scriptures to backup your lies?

Those Prophets referred to there, how many of them were Arabs?

And, even if the Jews killed their prophets, at least they didn't kill Muhammed, Allah and his council of gods did.

The council of Allahs, declared that if any prophet fabricates what they didn't give to him, they will cut off his Aorta. Here it is


Tafsir Jalalayn (And if he, namely the prophet, fabricates any lies against US by communicating what WE have not said, WE would assuredly seized him, WE would have exacted vengeance against him as punishment by OUR right hand, by OUR strength and power, and WE would have assuredly severed his AORTA which will lead to his death.

The above was said by Allahs. (Only God knows how Allahs you have)

And here is muhammed and his severed Aorta.

...I continued to feel pain from the morsel i have eaten at Khaibar. This is the time when it has cut off my AORTA.



The council of Allahs said, the way they will kill a false prophet was to cut off his Aorta, and muhammed confirmed his aorta was cut after eating the goat meat.

SO, WHO KILLED MUHAMMED? THE JEWS OR ALLAH and his companion?

Hahahaha.....this lady you three much ooo. Hiting Islam where it should GBIM in the head... grin grin
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by plappville(f): 2:39pm On Sep 27, 2016
alfarouq:

So have you removed and threw away the verse in your bible that states
and as for Ishmael, I have heard thee, behold, I have BLESSED him, and will make him a great nation. KJV genesis17 v 20
I will allow you to complete the verse yourself.
Your hatred for Muslims and the ishmaelites will not land you anything except the wrath of the God.
I am sure if you have your way, you would have removed the above verse from the bible. You are the typical example of those the Quran says they chose to believe in parts of the scriptures that strengthen their positions and reject those that is against there whims and desire, they even provide interpretatations that suit their whims.
You started with a question as though you really wanted to learn, but after the way you reacted to various replies you were given, it showed what your true intentions were

You think He was blessed? So arabs multiplying and killing themselves to you is a blessing? undecided
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by plappville(f): 2:51pm On Sep 27, 2016
analice107:


And the koran knew that Mary the mother of Jesus was the same as Mirriam the sister of Moses and Aaron right?

stop screeching like a cracked CD player, it only goes to show your desperation to hide Mo's depravity.

Mo was the worst cursed man who ever lived. With all the sex he had, he didn't have one single child male or female to carry his name.

As a Yoruba man, You should Wole Soyinka's "The Tragedy of a Goat', To see what it means for a man not to have a male child, talk less of any child at all.

Guy Pick "Muhammed Vs The People" and read, you'll be shamed to identify with that cursed demons possessed lunatic call Muhammed.
I feel like throwing up.

Satan had used people in this world to perpetrate evil, but Muhammed was the highest of them all. Lucifer himself lived inside of that bum.
ahh, the part of hell that that man will be in.
The bold was a terrible error ummm, i wonder How Muslims could stand shamelessly to defend or argue this terribly error made by allah's prophet. . grin

All the plenty women he slept with so no one gave him a male child? havingva male child was something significant in the bible. At least we know that male children keep thier family name. Muhammad 's allah fail him seriously. angry
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by plappville(f): 3:00pm On Sep 27, 2016
alfarouq:

Like I told the op and your partner your hatred for Muslims and the ishmaelites will land you nothing but the wrath of GOD. He that God has blessed no one can undermine not to talk of laying a curse on him.
Your bible said in mathew 23:37 that God replied Abraham and as for Ishmael, I have heard thee. Behold, I have BLESSED him, I will make him a great nation.
This is an explicit statement that shows that God himself said I have blessed him.
Can you please also show us an explicit statement where God cursed him.
Do you then call your biblical God a liar. Do you believe in some parts that suit your whims and read meaning into parts that do otherwise
This iswhat a curse looks like
Ye serpents, ye generation if vipers, how can you escape the damnation of hell? Wherefore, behold, I sent unto you generation of prophets and wise men, some of them you killed and crucify and some of them shall you scourge in your synagogues and persecute them from city to city that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth from the blood of righteous Abel up to that zechariah whom you slew between the temple and the altar.
Verily, I say unto you, all this things shall come upon this generation. Mathew 23: 30-38

Shut up. Look at the arabs dieing everyday. War in the middle east, arabs are spreading everywhere in the West because of war in thier home. 3000 Muslims pilgrims died at stamped in Mecca , Muhammad died of food poison, iran and Saudi hate themselves. Will you call this wrath of allah? The bible talks about the wrath of God. Here comes a Muslim using it. Must you copy everything in the bible? Allah is an idol god. Dont fake urself. It has no wrath... grin
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by plappville(f): 3:08pm On Sep 27, 2016
reallest:


Do what ask u to do or shut d Bleep up,whats my business with Muhammad or Allah?y can't ur Yahweh stop mere mortal from destroying his plan if he is not clueless

If you ve got no business with allah and Muhammad, then face front. This thread talks about the Ishmael.
He is the root of Islam. He is the only reason why arabs could tag Yahwen to thier fabricated religion. Since you dont have business with them. Please leave or you keep silent. I have got no deal with u either ciao. wink
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by plappville(f): 3:17pm On Sep 27, 2016
udatso:
Plappville
Let's assume you are right (God cursed Ishmael).
Why was he cursed by God? What crime did he commit?

Maybe thesame reason why God was on Sarah's side when She asked Abraham to send Hagar and Ishmael away. undecided
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by plappville(f): 3:22pm On Sep 27, 2016
udatso:

Quoting again just incase you didn't see the first mention

udatso:

Quoting for the second time because I am yet to get a reply to this question. Plappville please help answer this question

Dont you have anything else doing apart from visiting NL? I come here at my spare time ok. If u like remind me 1000 x i can only reply u when am chanced.
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by plappville(f): 3:27pm On Sep 27, 2016
Blackfire:



if u come to my house with 4 thugs to attack my family... and am the one you will go through first..

I swear by every wickedness in me from my fourth generation that I will spill there blood, and I won't 've no regrets.

[b]islam is killing wonderful creatures... bright futures, [/b]and u expect me to watch them do my family... even devil and alusi okija knows I will fight with every means necessary.

Honestly, i weep for the innocents.. cry cry
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by analice107: 3:42pm On Sep 27, 2016
plappville:

The bold was a terrible error ummm, i wonder How Muslims could stand shamelessly to defend or argue this terribly error made by allah's prophet. . grin

All the plenty women he slept with so no one gave him a male child? havingva male child was something significant in the bible. At least we know that male children keep thier family name. Muhammad 's allah fail him seriously. angry

Almost all his children died while he was still alive, the last of his descendants were killed shortly after his death by Abu Bakir for him and his daughter Aisha to Hijack Islam. They succeeded.
Abu Bakir gave Aisha the Poison with which she killed muhammed, and later killed muhammeds kids.

Aisha helped Allah to kill Muhammed.
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by alfarouq(m): 3:50pm On Sep 27, 2016
plappville:


Shut up. Look at the arabs dieing everyday. War in the middle east, arabs are spreading everywhere in the West because of war in thier home. 3000 Muslims pilgrims died at stamped in Mecca , Muhammad died of food poison, iran and Saudi hate themselves. Will you call this wrath of allah? The bible talks about the wrath of God. Here comes a Muslim using it. Must you copy everything in the bible? Allah is an idol god. Dont fake urself. It has no wrath... grin
You are such a joke, I showed you a verse from your Bible where God said HE has blessed ishmael only for you to give me some stories that why are the Arabs dying as though other people don't die.
So the Europeans that were involved in wars and numerous revolutions and the Jews with their tale if 6 million people been killed were also cursed, if we will go with this your logic.
On a final note, tell me do you believe in every part of your Bible or you only believe in ones that suit tour whims?
Do you call your God a liar when he said he has blessed Ishmael because you are insinuating he does not know what he is saying?
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by reallest(f): 4:08pm On Sep 27, 2016
plappville:


If you ve got no business with allah and Muhammad, then face front. This thread talks about the Ishmael.
He is the root of Islam. He is the only reason why arabs could tag Yahwen to thier fabricated religion. Since you dont have business with them. Please leave or you keep silent. I have got no deal with u either ciao. wink
Stop complaining buddy,just tell me who is to blame if not ur clueless Yahweh who was clueless to d extend dat mere mortals were able to utter his plan.if u can tell me den I will advise you to stop dis useless thread u re opening
Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by udatso: 5:04pm On Sep 27, 2016
plappville:


Maybe thesame reason why God was on Sarah's side when She asked Abraham to send Hagar and Ishmael away. undecided
I didn't ask for the reason why God was on Sarah side. This isn't about sides. I simply asked you Why Was Ismael cursed? Let me rephrase it
What was Ishmael 'S crime that lead to him be cursed?

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Re: Ishmael Cursed By God? by udatso: 5:07pm On Sep 27, 2016
plappville:




Dont you have anything else doing apart from visiting NL? I come here at my spare time ok. If u like remind me 1000 x i can only reply u when am chanced.
Oh trust me, I have alot to do unlike many of your friends and praise singers. Check the dates of the two quotes. There's a day interval between them.
BTW you are yet to give the reply to the question I asked

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