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Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by Splinz(m): 1:04pm On Mar 01, 2017
petra1:

The early church worship on sundays which they called "The lords day" or first day of the week.

Oh really!? Wow... I'm not in the know that the early Church worshiped on the "Lord's Day". Well, lets find out.

1 Corinthians 16:2
2 On the first day of each week, you should each put aside a portion of the money you have earned . . .

Before examination, let’s read the first three verses of this chapter to put verse 2 in context: “Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do you. Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God has prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. And when I come, whomsoever you shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem.”

This passage supposedly gives authority for passing the “collection plate” every Sunday. Does it represent a general command to all Christians, for all time, to give freewill offerings at “Sunday services”? No! However, the passage does speak of an offering, a collection to be taken up for a specific purpose. The offering described here is unique in five ways. As you read these points, see if there is even a remote indication or hint that God in any way commands or authorizes Sunday-keeping through it.

First, it is a specific offering described in Romans 15:25-28: “But now I go unto Jerusalem to minister unto the saints. For it has pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem. It has pleased them verily; and their debtors they are. For if the Gentiles have been made partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister unto them in carnal [physical] things. When therefore I have performed this, and have sealed to them this fruit, I will come by you into Spain.”

This passage shows the collection was “for the poor saints…at Jerusalem.” It was not a collection plate passed on Sunday. The Jerusalem saints were to receive food because they were suffering from drought and famine. The Greek word translated “fruit” can also refer to grain, produce or wine, which can be stored for long periods.

There is no reference to money here. There is also nothing about giving a collection to the minister or a church hierarchy.

Second, it was done at one specific time—when Paul passed through (“I will come by you into Spain”).

Third, it was given at one specific place (“let everyone of you lay by him in store”). This is because Paul would come later (vs. 3 – “when I come”) to gather what brethren had been saving at home (“lay by him in store”). This was not an offering kept at the church, or given every—or any—Sunday.

Fourth, this command is specific to the Corinthians (vs. 1). There is no command for Sunday collections here, but merely instruction to local brethren to store an important offering for poor brethren!

Fifth, this letter was received in Corinth during the Days of Unleavened Bread. “First day of the week” should properly be translated “first of the weeks (plural).” The collection was almost certainly to happen immediately after the Days of Unleavened Bread, in the first week counting toward Pentecost.

Verse 4—“and if it be meet that I go also, they shall go with me”—coupled with verse 3 referencing “them,” shows that it took several people to transport this large offering to Jerusalem. This would not be necessary if it was simply cash and coins taken up in an offering plate. It would be necessary if much food and drink was involved.

So bro, there's no such proofs here that the early Church worshiped on Sundays. Now, lets look at your next point...
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by Auki: 1:59pm On Mar 01, 2017
Who authorise worship of Jesus instead of God?

Jesus is God
Jesus is Son God
Jesus as in Trinity

Pagans concepts inserted and normalised.

Your God is ONE and without any partner. Jesus is human being created by God

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Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by Splinz(m): 2:18pm On Mar 01, 2017
petra1:

John received the book of revelation why worshiping on Sunday

Revelation 1:10
10 It was the Lord’s Day, and I was worshiping in the Spirit. Suddenly, I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet blast.


This is nothing short of a heartbreak to me, really. So the "Lord's Day" is Sunday? Indeed!

The Lord's Day

Like many of other Scriptural truths misinterpreted and misunderstood, mainstream churchianity has always termed their Sunday worships as worshiping on the "Lord's Day". This would have been humorous had it not been for what truly is the Lord's Day according to Scriptures.

Understand. There are numerous Scriptural references to the Day of the Lord (Isaiah 2: 12-18; 13: 9; Jeremiah 46: 10; Joel 1: 15, 16; 2 Peter 3: 10, Amos 5:18-20, etc.). And all of these passages speaks of the "Day of God's Wrath" on rebellious mankind. Listen: "Woe to you who long for the day of the LORD! Why do you long for the day of the LORD? That day will be darkness, not light" (Amos 5:18).

And besides, notice that Revelation does not say "the first day of the week" or "Sunday" is what John calls the "Lord's Day". So then, according to the true meaning of the Lord's Day, John was taken in the Spirit to a great Day in the future. A day of great anguish, pains, sorrows and gnashing of teeth! The plaques spoken of in Revelation will be poured out on disobedience children. Again, listen to this lengthy passage:

"The great day of the LORD is near, near and hastening fast; the sound of the day of the LORD is bitter, the mighty man cries aloud there. A day of wrath is that day, a day of distress and anguish, a day of ruin and devastation, a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and thick darkness, a day of trumpet blast and battle cry against the fortified cities and against the lofty battlements. I will bring distress on men, so that they shall walk like the blind, because they have sinned against the LORD; their blood shall be poured out like dust, and their flesh like dung. Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them on the day of the wrath of the LORD. In the fire of his jealous wrath, all the earth shall be consumed; for a full, yea, sudden end he will make of all the inhabitants of the earth" (Zephaniah 1:14-18).

So then, we see that the Lord's Day is no day for worship but a day of great wrath revealed to John! This was to warn us to desist from sins in other to escape this gloomy day for sinners! How could the early Church have desired such a day, and why should you? God forbid!

PS: Beautiful and desirable is a day God calls “My holy day”, and that day is the Sabbath day (Isaiah 58:13). Why not desire this holy day, and save yourself from wrath? smiley
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by Splinz(m): 2:51pm On Mar 01, 2017
petra1:

Jesus appeared to the disciples many times when they were gathered on Sunday's .

John 20:19
19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

He appeared the following week during Sunday meeting

John 20:26
26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.


John 20:19

“Then the same day at evening, being THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and said unto them, Peace be unto you.” Was this a Sunday worship service? Was it to celebrate Christ’s Resurrection?

Christ had just been resurrected—late Sabbath afternoon, between 3 and 6 p.m. Some disciples had gone to the tomb early Sunday morning to see if He was there. Other accounts we will review demonstrate that He was already gone—already “risen.” His first opportunity to see the disciples would have been on Sunday—the first day of the week. He had just been horribly tortured and crucified, and gone for three days in the tomb. It was natural for Christ to meet with them right after this had happened.

The account says nothing of this being a “worship service,” or a “resurrection service.” The brethren were meeting privately, probably secretly in a closed room, “for fear of the Jews.” Remember, the Jews had crucified their friend and Master. They would have had much to discuss. Also remember that they had all been living together in this single upper room (Acts 1:13). It was also impossible that the meeting was some kind of “Sunday resurrection celebration,” because the disciples did not believe that Jesus was risen (Mark 16:14; Luke 24:37, 39, 41)!

There is certainly nothing in this account that references either Sunday or that the Sabbath is done away. Therefore, we conclude that it contains no authority for changing God’s Sabbath to Sunday.
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by Splinz(m): 3:35pm On Mar 01, 2017
petra1:

Paul also talked about the needlessness of the sabbath worship

Colossians 2:16
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:


I see. I did said you're in a dilemma, and indeed, it is great. Here, I'll simply repeat what I told you in another thread:

Some are too quick to point out Colossians 2:16-17 to mean the Sabbath is no more. Of course, it is only one of the many stumbling blocks they encountered in Paul's "hard to understand" writings, which some people twist to their destruction (2 Peter 3:16). This is because merely looking at verse 11 of same chapter, we see that Paul said Christians are circumcised by the Holy Spirit that the works of the flesh may be put off, and that circumcision is of value when you keep the Law (Romans 2:25). Again, we've also seen that the carnal mind cannot keep the commandments of God because he hates them (Romans 8:7). So here is the question: How can Paul say you can break the Sabbath law when he just said few verses after that you were circumcised to keep the law? Think about it. It is simply a case of misunderstanding what Paul is truly saying. Link: https://www.nairaland.com/3615455/does-new-covenant-abolish-ten/3#53737140

If you were truly a true seeker and lover of the truth, you would have thought about it. But you didn't, instead you keep on twisting what Paul wrote to mean what he never said or intended. How can Paul just uphold the Law in verse 11 of this same chapter, and just moving a little further, he condemned the same Law he has just uphold? Is the Bible contradictory? What about Hebrews 4:9? Are you in anyway insinuating that Paul was confused and didn't know what he was saying

Well, since you have decided not to learn how to rightly divide the word of truth, i.e, since you have decided not to learn what message Paul is passing in Colossians 2:16, I've also decided to let you wallow in the dark. After all, it is written: "Do not cast your pearls before swine" (Matthew 7:6). Because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee... (Hosea 4:6).
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by petra1(m): 4:16pm On Mar 01, 2017
Splinz:


I see. I did said you're in a dilemma, and indeed, it is great. Here, I'll simply repeat what I told you in another thread:
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Kindly watch your tongue brother. If you have something to say ,kindly share it from scripture . I don't converse with rude talkers .
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by Splinz(m): 4:21pm On Mar 01, 2017
petra1:


Kindly watch your tongue brother. If you have something to say ,kindly share it from scripture . I don't converse with rude talkers .

I apologize if my speech offends thee. But then, those are just words meant to describe your seeming state of mind. All the same, I am sorry.
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by petra1(m): 4:24pm On Mar 01, 2017
Splinz:


John 20:19
“Then the same day at evening, being THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK

the first day of the week. He had just been horribly tortured and crucified, and gone for three days in the tomb. It was natural for Christ to meet with them right after this had happened.
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It would have been very nice explanation to dismiss the Sunday worship except that . He waited a whole week to appear to them again on another Sunday . If the first Sunday evening appearance was a coincidence. What about second week . On another Sunday when they were gathered together. Why Sunday? Simply because the church services were held every Sunday . It wasn't a roman invention .

Why collecting special offerings on Sunday for jesrusalem ? Why not Monday or Saturday sabbath?
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by petra1(m): 4:26pm On Mar 01, 2017
Splinz:


I apologize if my speech offends thee. But then, those are just words meant to describe your seeming state of mind. All the same, I am sorry.

Truth is shared in love not in strife .

2 Timothy 2:24-25 (KJV)
24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by petra1(m): 4:32pm On Mar 01, 2017
Splinz:


This is nothing short of a heartbreak to me, really. So the "Lord's Day" is Sunday? Indeed!

The Lord's Day

Like many of other Scriptural truths misinterpreted and misunderstood, mainstream churchianity has always termed their Sunday worships as worshiping on the "Lord's Day". This would have been humorous had it not been for what truly is the Lord's Day according to Scriptures.

The lords day is Sunday . It is different from "The day of the lord" the day of the lord is a futuristic apocalypse. Tribulation. When the wrath of God will visit the earth.its not a day of worship . It's a day of woe! But John was simply worshiping God on the lords day and he was caught up in the spirit and saw the vision which became the book of revelation.
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by Splinz(m): 4:39pm On Mar 01, 2017
petra1:


It would have been very nice explanation to dismiss the Sunday worship except that . He waited a whole week to appear to them again on another Sunday . If the first Sunday evening appearance was a coincidence. What about second week . On another Sunday when they were gathered together. Why Sunday? Simply because the church services were held every Sunday . It wasn't a roman invention .

Why collecting special offerings on Sunday for jesrusalem ? Why not Monday or Saturday sabbath?

Sorry, you're wrong. Lets see which day the early Church kept.

Paul and Barnabas Teach on the Sabbath

ACTS 13:14-15, 42-44 contains an account of Paul and Barnabas teaching Jews on the Sabbath: “But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue ON THE SABBATH DAY, and sat down. And after the reading of the law and the prophets the rulers of the synagogue sent unto them, saying, You men and brethren, if you have any word of exhortation for the people, say on” (vs. 14-15).

The account picks up in verse 42: “And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them THE NEXT SABBATH.” Why would he not tell them to just show up the next day—Sunday—instead of requiring them to wait an entire week, until the next Sabbath, for further instruction? The account says nothing of Paul telling the Gentiles that they no longer had an obligation to keep the Sabbath—that it had been done away. While one might suppose that the Jews still carried this obligation, why did Paul not at least explain to the Gentiles, in a message about the “grace of God,” that the Law had been nailed to the cross? He could have easily explained that the Sabbath was no longer binding in the New Testament era.

Notice verse 43: “Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the GRACE OF GOD.”

But more time passed. People wanted to hear more of the “word of God.” Paul required everyone to wait another week—a second time. Another lost opportunity to point the Gentiles to Sunday. Now read: “And THE NEXT SABBATH DAY came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God” (vs. 44).

Bro did you see that!?? “And THE NEXT SABBATH” Not “AND THE NEXT SUNDAY!”
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by Splinz(m): 4:53pm On Mar 01, 2017
Another Account

Next we examine ACTS 16:12-15 , an account of Paul and Silas observing the Sabbath in Philippi. Careful reading of the account shows that it was a custom for people to meet on a river bank each Sabbath: “And from there to Philippi…and we were in that city abiding certain days. And ON THE SABBATH we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spoke unto the women which resorted there. And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul. And…she was baptized.”

Obviously, Paul and those with him kept the Sabbath each week. This required them to find where Sabbath assembly regularly took place locally.

Paul Kept the Sabbath

The next account, ACTS 18:1-11 , is remarkable. It reveals that Paul worked during the week and kept the Sabbath—“every” Sabbath: “After these things Paul departed from Athens, and came to Corinth; and found a certain Jew named Aquila…with his wife Priscilla…and came unto them. And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them, and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers. And he reasoned in the synagogue EVERY SABBATH, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks [Gentiles]…and he continued there a year and six months, teaching the word of God among them” (vs. 1-4, 11). Eighteen months is equivalent to 78 weekly Sabbaths on which Paul taught God’s Word!

Verse 6 shows that the Jews became angry and, blaspheming, departed from Paul. This left him teaching Gentiles only—and yet he continued teaching them on the Sabbath! The argument that he met on the Sabbath to satisfy the Jews holds no water.

Paul taught both Jews and Gentiles each Sabbath. And he worked the other six days in accord with “Six days shall you labor, and do all your work.” If Paul was also observing Sunday, he would have been routinely violating the other aspect of the Sabbath command, having but five days to work.

Finally, notice that Acts 17:2 states that Paul, when in Thessalonica, “…as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the Scriptures.” This was also a Gentile city.

The pattern is clear. Paul kept the Sabbath, meeting with and teaching brethren everywhere he went. Now consider what he instructed the Gentile Corinthians: “Be you followers of me, even as I also am of Christ” (I Cor. 11:1).

Plain! Paul and the rest of the saints kept the Sabbath not Sunday!
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by Splinz(m): 5:00pm On Mar 01, 2017
petra1:


The lords day is Sunday . It is different from "The day of the lord" the day of the lord is a futuristic apocalypse. Tribulation. When the wrath of God will visit the earth.its not a day of worship . It's a day of woe! But John was simply worshiping God on the lords day and he was caught up in the spirit and saw the vision which became the book of revelation.


You're right you know. I agree that the Lord's Day is truly Sunday—a day that God's wrath will be poured out on rebellious children. embarassed

Stop confusing yourself bro. Both "The Lord's Day" and "The Day of The Lord" means the same thing. John was taken in the Spirit to see how the Lord's Day will be.
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by petra1(m): 5:31pm On Mar 01, 2017
Splinz:


Sorry, you're wrong. Lets see which day the early Church kept.

Paul and Barnabas Teach on the Sabbath).

Bro did you see that!?? “And THE NEXT SABBATH” Not “AND THE NEXT SUNDAY!”


You're right . The went to the sinagogue to preach to the Jews the Judaists but not the church gathering . The church meets on sundays
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by Splinz(m): 5:40pm On Mar 01, 2017
petra1:


You're right . The went to the sinagogue to preach to the Jews the Judaists but not the church gathering . The church meets on sundays


Apparently, you don't get it. Both Jews and the Gentiles were taught on the Sabbath. These are biblical facts! Nothing like the Church meetings on Sunday.

Besides, do you not know that a Christian is also a Jew? (Romans 2:29). And that salvation is of the Jews (John 4:22)? So who are the Jews and the Church?
Such bold statement of yours simply means you don't really know much about who a Christian is. Such a sad reality.
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by Splinz(m): 7:13pm On Mar 01, 2017
MZLady39:

My brother....you have to get out and get some fresh air.....(meaning another thread).
Take a break from this thread..venture out, spread your wings, post some comments.. and then, if you can't resist, please come back.

From your sister...the lady musketeer in the trio smiley

Musketeers armed with the truths. Fully rooted and built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus Himself as the Chief cornerstone (Ephesians 2:20). Indeed, it is a privilege. cool
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by petra1(m): 11:58pm On Mar 01, 2017
Splinz:

Apparently, you don't get it. Both Jews and the Gentiles were taught on the Sabbath. These are biblical facts! Nothing like the Church meetings on Sunday.

Besides, do you not know that a Christian is also a Jew? (Romans 2:29). And that salvation is of the Jews (John 4:22)? So who are the Jews and the Church?
Such bold statement of yours simply means you don't really know much about who a Christian is. Such a sad reality.

I'm trying my best to overlook your rudeness . Maybe to you it's a weapon of intimidation. But I will advice you to humble yourself and stop assuming position of a master so that just in case you are proven wrong you can accept . Gods word should be communicated in humility. It's just my word of advice to you.

Now back to the topic . You want to know why Christians worship on Sunday . You asked the question . Pls kindly be patient to hear the answers . You already made it clear that you don't know that there is a difference between the day of the lord and the lords day. You made it known to us all also that you don't known that Sunday is the lords day . So pls kindly allow me to expresss my knowledge freely and read it with open mind ...

I will go over my points again .

THE CHURCH WORSHIP ON SUNDAYS

The early church refers to Sunday as first day of the week . Or the lords day . Because Jesus rose on Sunday , the church began to meet on Sunday . This was well before Constantine became emperor

1 Corinthians 16:2
2 On the first day of each week, you should each put aside a portion of the money you have earned . . .


Note that it' wasn't a one time instruction . It's every Sunday service . let me give it to you in the message translation.

1 Corinthians 16:2 (MSG)
2 Every Sunday each of you make an offering and put it in safekeeping. Be as generous as you can. When I get there you'll have it ready, and I won't have to make a special appeal


Also you said the lords day referred to in revelation is not Sunday .

Revelation 1:10 (MSG)
10 It was the Lord’s Day, and I was worshiping in the Spirit. Suddenly, I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet blast


Lets look at it in a modern translation.

Revelation 1:10(MSG)
10 It was Sunday and I was in the Spirit, praying. I heard a loud voice behind me, trumpet-clear and piercing


So you can see what point I was getting across which you were insulting me about . The lords day is Sunday .

It's very evident from scriptures that the early church worship on Sunday . Kindly look at the following scriptures also .

Acts 20:7 (MSG)
7 We met on Sunday to worship and celebrate the Master's Supper. Paul addressed the congregation. Our plan was to leave first thing in the morning, but Paul talked on, way past midnight


John 20:19 .
19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.


He appeared the following week during Sunday meeting

John 20:26
26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.


Paul also talked about the needlessness of the sabbath worship

Colossians 2:16
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by DoctorAlien(m): 12:40am On Mar 02, 2017
Petra1,

It is not true that the early church worshipped on Sundays. In fact, all the apostles and the early Christians worshipped on the Sabbath day.(See Acts 17:2; 16:13)

See Isa. 58:13 to see the day which the Lord calls His own, not the dictionary definition of "the Lord's day." John received his revelation on the Sabbath day.

Why don't you stop reading Roman Catholic corrupted "bibles"? Use the KJV. It's the best version of the Bible there is. All other ones have their messages altered.
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by DoctorAlien(m): 12:46am On Mar 02, 2017
Good work brother Splinz! May GOD reward your efforts to spread His truth bountifully.
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by DoctorAlien(m): 12:53am On Mar 02, 2017
John mentions the “first day” again in the same chapter, and this has often been misinterpreted as a reference to Sunday worship. “Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you” (John 20:19).

Even though this gathering behind locked doors took place on the same day as the resurrection, was it a special commemoration of that event? The circumstances make it impossible for such to be the case. The text plainly states that they were gathered there “for fear of the Jews.” The frightened disciples had already learned that the tomb was empty, and they expected shortly to be charged with stealing away the body of Jesus. They huddled together in the locked room for protection and reassurance.
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by DoctorAlien(m): 12:55am On Mar 02, 2017
The fact is that they did not believe Christ had been resurrected from the dead. Mark’s account reveals that they totally rejected the testimony of Mary and the other disciples who brought word of actually seeing the resurrected Lord. “And she went and told them that had been with him, as they mourned and wept. And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not. After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country. And they went and told it unto the residue: neither believed they them. Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen” (Mark 16:10–14).
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by petra1(m): 12:57am On Mar 02, 2017
DoctorAlien:
Petra1,

It is not true that the early church worshipped on Sundays.

You didn't read my post .read it again before responding

In fact, all the apostles and the early Christians worshipped on the Sabbath day.(See Acts 17:2; 16:13)


Wrong SIR . Paul only went there to share the gospel with them . His manner was the preaching to them .

Acts 17:2
2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,

Acts 16:13 (AMPC)
13 And on the Sabbath day we went outside the [city’s] gate to the bank of the river where we supposed there was an [accustomed] place of prayer, and we sat down and addressed the women who had assembled there.


It wasn't a christian gathering . He went to preach to the sabatharians . It's like to cherubim church to preach to them

See Isa. 58:13 to see the day which the Lord calls His own, not the dictionary definition of "the Lord's day." John received his revelation on the Sabbath day.

You obviously weren't patient enough to read my post . Kindly read it again , then let's talk

Why don't you stop reading Roman Catholic corrupted "bibles"? Use the KJV. It's the best version of the Bible there is. All other ones have their messages altered.

Which translation would you prefer we use ?
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by DoctorAlien(m): 12:57am On Mar 02, 2017
Based on these words, we must quietly pass over that embarrassing Sunday afternoon meeting in the closed room. It was not an occasion of unrestrained joy over the resurrection, as some have portrayed it. In fact, there was not even any recognition on the part of the disciples that a miracle had taken place. They were fearful, depressed, and unbelieving. When Jesus appeared to them He spoke words of strong rebuke because of their lack of faith and because they had rejected the testimony of their own companions. How misleading it is to make this a happy memorial service honoring the resurrection!
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by DoctorAlien(m): 1:00am On Mar 02, 2017
People,

I implore you all to follow the link below to find out the truth about Sunday worship. Thank you.

www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/37/t/is-sunday-really-sacred
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by petra1(m): 1:01am On Mar 02, 2017
DoctorAlien:
Petra1,

I implore you to follow the link below to find out the truth about Sunday worship. Thank you.

www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/37/t/is-sunday-really-sacred

I implore you to respond to my post below

DoctorAlien:
Petra1,

It is not true that the early church worshipped on Sundays.

You didn't read my post .read it again before responding

In fact, all the apostles and the early Christians worshipped on the Sabbath day.(See Acts 17:2; 16:13)


Wrong SIR . Paul only went there to share the gospel with them . His manner was the preaching to them .

Acts 17:2
2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,

Acts 16:13 (AMPC)
13 And on the Sabbath day we went outside the [city’s] gate to the bank of the river where we supposed there was an [accustomed] place of prayer, and we sat down and addressed the women who had assembled there.


It wasn't a christian gathering . He went to preach to the sabatharians . It's like to cherubim church to preach to them

See Isa. 58:13 to see the day which the Lord calls His own, not the dictionary definition of "the Lord's day." John received his revelation on the Sabbath day.

You obviously weren't patient enough to read my post . Kindly read it again , then let's talk

Why don't you stop reading Roman Catholic corrupted "bibles"? Use the KJV. It's the best version of the Bible there is. All other ones have their messages altered.

Which translation would you prefer we use ?
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by DoctorAlien(m): 1:12am On Mar 02, 2017
Petra1,

We cite the great apostle’s personal testimony that he never kept one Sunday holy in his whole life. Just before his death, Paul made this emphatic statement to the Jewish leaders, “Men and brethren, though I have committed nothing against the people, or customs of our fathers, yet was I delivered prisoner from Jerusalem into the hands of the Romans” (Acts 28:17).

Think for a moment! If Paul had ever deliberately broken the Sabbath, or kept another day than the seventh, he could not have declared truthfully that he had done nothing against Jewish custom. On the strength of this unqualified declaration by a man of unimpeachable integrity, we close the search for Sunday keeping authority in the Bible. It just is not there.

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Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by petra1(m): 1:30am On Mar 02, 2017
DoctorAlien:
Petra1,
we close the search for Sunday keeping authority in the Bible. It just is not there.

I gave you more than enough. The early church started to worship on Sunday . It wasn't a roman idea . I believe we both agree that the first day of the week is Sunday

1 Corinthians 16:2
2 On the first day of each week, you should each put aside a portion of the money you have earned . . .


Mark the embolded "EACH WEEK"

Acts 20:7 (KJV)
7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by DoctorAlien(m): 1:40am On Mar 02, 2017
petra1:


I gave you more than enough. The early church started to worship on Sunday . It wasn't a roman idea . I believe we both agree that the first day of the week is Sunday

1 Corinthians 16:2
2 On the first day of each week, you should each put aside a portion of the money you have earned . . .


Mark the embolded "EACH WEEK"

Acts 20:7 (KJV)
7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.





All these things are properly addressed in the link I gave to you up there. I know you have not opened the link. By the way, I hope you know you're the only one who cites 1 Cor. 16:2 as evidence of Sunday worship in the early church?

Please do open the link and read the truth. Thank you.
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by Nobody: 1:42am On Mar 02, 2017
Splinz:


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Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by DoctorAlien(m): 1:49am On Mar 02, 2017
Moreover, Petra1,

If we can agree that Paul kept the Sabbath day holy all through his life, and never kept Sunday, or any other day apart from the Sabbath day holy(as he confirmed in Acts 28:17), what do you think the Corinthian church was doing, since Paul, on two occassions(1 Cor.4:16; 11:1) urged them to imitate him, stating on one of the occassions, that he imitates Christ?

If Paul was keeping the Sabbath day holy and was imitating Christ, what do you think that means?
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by petra1(m): 1:56am On Mar 02, 2017
DoctorAlien:


All these things are properly addressed in the link I gave to you up there. I know you have not opened the link. By the way, I hope you know you're the only one who cites 1 Cor. 16:2 as evidence of Sunday worship in the early church?

Please do open the link and read the truth. Thank you.

Don't direct me to a link . If you want traffic on your site . Advertise it some other way. If you can't post your commment here for all to benefit or just forget it . I have numerous links also .
Re: Who Authorized Sunday Worship? by petra1(m): 2:02am On Mar 02, 2017
DoctorAlien:
Moreover, Petra1,

If we can agree that Paul kept the Sabbath day holy all through his life, and never kept Sunday, or any other day apart from the Sabbath day holy(as he confirmed in Acts 28:17), what do you think the Corinthian church was doing, since Paul, on two occassions(1 Cor.4:16; 11:1) urged them to imitate him, stating on one of the occassions, that he imitates Christ?

If Paul was keeping the Sabbath day holy and was imitating Christ, what do you think that means?

You didn't address the scriptures I posted . You're quoting Paul imitating christ . Christ violated the law concerning the sabbath . It was against the law to work or Labour on sabbath day . Christ did work heal,go to farm to harvest corn on sabbath day . So if Paul's imitation of christ was about the sabbath then it's a violation of the sabbath Paul was teaching us to emulate

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