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Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by Nobody: 12:57pm On Apr 09, 2017
otemanuduno:


The bolded is what I want to hear. So u didn't break a neck, had no bleeding, no brain damage, no spinal cord damage, so why should you die?

Those who died without injuries died because of excessive fear of the occurrence of that accident. I know of a woman who was almost hit by a motorcycle. she wasn't hit but she collapsed and died. Doctors said she was killed of heart attack. Same thing happen to the spiritual but fearful people today. They die of heart attack in their sleep while seeing nightmares, and they term it spiritual attack. lol.

Can you explain why a packed car like daewoo racer that had 7-8 occupants suffered NO casualty or no injury? I await your 'logical' explanation.
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by Nobody: 1:08pm On Apr 09, 2017
Goddys:
You misconstrue my post. I find your expositions more enlightening than the worldview I hold.Some of your post I have read so far throw some lights to certain misgivings I am having. I need to be exposed to what you read because being a billionaire I can't afford your time to answer some of the pressing questions I have. Please recommend the books

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Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by Bollinger(m): 1:08pm On Apr 09, 2017
Omooba77:

Yea, there are last days Christanity traits, but the Biblical Truth remains!

There no last or first days. You are born and try to live your life with as much decency as possible then you die. Period.

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Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by walls01: 1:26pm On Apr 09, 2017
otemanuduno:


the cardinal teaching of religion is worshipping a god, but the cardinal things I am sent to the world to teach are these:

*use your brain
*worship no god
*do good to humanity

There has never been any religious book where the word 'brain' was written. They hide the brain and its use from the people. BUT THE DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH is here, saying USE THAT BRAIN.

See more from the link below: https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos

when it comes to spiritual matter you can't use the brain.

please explain how we can use our brain to understand how the human body withstand gun bullet using charm

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Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by walls01: 1:31pm On Apr 09, 2017
DrogoG:

Do you read English? Where did I call people kids and names?
sorry, you said I quote" are for kids"
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by brojoshua: 1:39pm On Apr 09, 2017
Being a Jew does not necessarily make you a (true) Jew. Salvation is not transferable from a parent to a child, it is not like a family title, it is individualistic. It is by individual rebirth of each person, by the grace of God through faith in Christ Jesus the Son of God and the saviour of the world. The world of God says, "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." Read: John 3:16. It says whoever believes should be saved. So a son being raised by a true christain father does not necessarily make the son a true christain, though the son may also be called a christain. And Satan was himself once a son in the house of God but not a true son, and he lost faith in God and then sinned and went his own way. The good gifts God gave Satan are what he is using to destroy the lives of people as many are doing of whom you say they were once children of Christians who were raised in christains way. In fact may of them are using the songs of God and the hymns to make money. So do not be surprised at these things.
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by Goddys(m): 1:40pm On Apr 09, 2017
Billyonaire:


Let me give you a cue.
[s]Dive into the deep web and then the dark web. The open internet that everyone uses is too tiny and regulated, totally indexed by google. The un-indexed internet called Dark web holds unrestricted information. Study how to access information on the deep dark web not indexed by google. Get a new computer, preferably a Mac0S NOT Windows OS, install an unpopular Operating System, not MacOS, not Windows, you could try Tails OS, Ubuntu or whichever and a secure Browser, not the popular ones that can be tracked. And dive deep. It is a bigger and interesting world out there ruled by most intelligent people who hate the restriction of laws.

I will delete this post in 5 minutes, let me know when u read.[/s]
Thank you very much. What you just shared is priceless to me. I will work hard towards that.
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by Nobody: 1:44pm On Apr 09, 2017
because Gospel is not about Gospel anymore! nawadays it's About seed sowing, miracles prosperities and money
even the so called pastors are more interested in shiny, sexy and flamboyant lifestyles, infact I don't think they even believe there's a place called heaven their own heaven is on earth. otherwise why would they be only interested in acquiring so much wealth on this earth?
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by Sapiosexuality(m): 1:44pm On Apr 09, 2017
Billyonaire:


Look at consciousness as a Cosmic Wifi signal stream that activates data streams at points of contact.

Everything is Science, but Earth Science is a cocktales of ignorance and bullshit, built on the errors of Einstein and few others who got Nobel Prize for Bullshit. Einstein knew he was wrong about Gravity. I wont say much here but I can tell you that Miracle is Science not yet understood by humans.

Ask your scientist to study what they call Dark Matter and what they call Anti-matter and what they call Void. In these they will find the science to make what they call Miracle a daily on-demand events.

There are no miracle, but ignorance of Quantum Science.
Have you heard of Professor Amagh Nduka? Or you are him?
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by shimmer19(f): 2:01pm On Apr 09, 2017
too much of familiarity, then say causes negligence. they vertically know every verse in the bible, like song lyrics and they no more hold meaning to them.
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by bstringz(m): 2:02pm On Apr 09, 2017
1 corinthians 18
The teaching about the cross seems foolish to those who are lost. But to us who are being saved it is the power of God. As the Scriptures say,

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise.
    I will confuse the understanding of the intelligent.”

So what does this say about the philosopher, the law expert, or anyone in this world who is skilled in making clever arguments? God has made the wisdom of the world look foolish.

This is what God in his wisdom decided: Since the world did not find him through its own wisdom, he used the message that sounds foolish to save those who believe it.

Let the wise understand.... Shalom.
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by Exciton(m): 2:14pm On Apr 09, 2017
Billyonaire:


My brother and friend, I am not an atheist, and I am not Deist or theist, in fact, I hate labels.

To your questions.

1. The aliens are in constant communication with us, I have had contacts with Aliens and I will not disclose which species and which galaxy on this forum, but there are other forums and groups that I belong to, which we share and compare notes. Let me also state that my last contact with an alien specie was like 3 days ago and I am still trying to stabilize my vibration this moment after that contact. Let me also state that most of the world events this moment, and even for many years ago, has been on direct negotiations and agreements with Aliens and they are here. There are ETs on Earth here, some have physical base here on this planet and some, beneath the Earth Surface. Majority of our contacts are based on projections and interstellar missions.

2. Your second rant, did ask any specific question, I can not respond to that.

Buhahahaha!

And I thought I had seen it all on Nairaland.

I sha hope your "vibration" stabilizes asap (whatever the fvck that means). Vibration stabilizing... e gba mi!



Thanks for the cracks anyways.
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by farem: 2:17pm On Apr 09, 2017
Omooba77:
I have been having running thoughts; majority of people apart from Muslims fighting Christianity today were rasied by Christian parents. Many of the the so called athiests were once vibrant members. Many of lewd singers were once choristers. Please what is happening, my heart burns!!!

So much that human beings raised by gorilla can never exhibit human traits that those born in 'Christian' homes but not really raised in Christian/Bible way will not turn out to be Christians

Who really is a Christian? It is not depended on those 'born' in Christian homes
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by Nobody: 2:17pm On Apr 09, 2017
Goddys:
Thank you very much. What you just shared is priceless to me. I will work hard towards that.
Now you know why the majority of the populace will not have access to certain information in their life-time. It is not on the public internet. I am sure when you delve into those areas, you will never be the same again and you will see yourself dancing naked with happiness and people around will wonder what makes you so calm when there is turnado.

Na we know the way.
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by Goddys(m): 2:26pm On Apr 09, 2017
Billyonaire:
Now you know why the majority of the populace will not have access to certain information in their life-time. It is not on the public internet. I am sure when you delve into those areas, you will never be the same again and you will see yourself dancing naked with happiness and people around will wonder what makes you so calm when there is turnado.

Na we know the way.
Hahahaha...You are absolutely right
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by otemanuduno: 2:37pm On Apr 09, 2017
walls01:


when it comes to spiritual matter you can't use the brain.

please explain how we can use our brain to understand how the human body withstand gun bullet using charm
I won't use my brain to explain dem say, dem say...rather, I will ask u to bring the person who used his charm to withstand bullet so that we can reshoot him with our own gun and see if he survives it. Mail me on when we will meet with that person so I can start planning on how to rent a local gun from the hunters.
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by logica(m): 2:47pm On Apr 09, 2017
Sacluxpaint:


Read Mathew 5:45. Bad things can happen to good people and vice versa.
You mean it?
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by Nobody: 2:48pm On Apr 09, 2017
logica:
You mean it?

Yeah, God's blessings has no restriction.
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by walls01: 2:55pm On Apr 09, 2017
otemanuduno:
I won't use my brain to explain dem say, dem say...rather, I will ask u to bring the person who used his charm to withstand bullet so that we can reshoot him with our own gun and see if he survives it. Mail me on when we will meet with that person so I can start planning on how to rent a local gun from the hunters.

hahahahaha I can't laugh, but this is true, we have use it to fight countless war in the Niger delta. but if you are serious you can come to delta my uncle do such charm come with your own gun so you don't think it is fake.

when do you agree to go, cause am in abuja now and we need to plan this. science believe in practical and this is the easiest way to practice spiritualism
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by pizapato(m): 2:56pm On Apr 09, 2017
Billyonaire:


Look at consciousness as a Cosmic Wifi signal stream that activates data streams at points of contact.

Everything is Science, but Earth Science is a cocktales of ignorance and bullshit, built on the errors of Einstein and few others who got Nobel Prize for Bullshit. Einstein knew he was wrong about Gravity. I wont say much here but I can tell you that Miracle is Science not yet understood by humans.

Ask your scientist to study what they call Dark Matter and what they call Anti-matter and what they call Void. In these they will find the science to make what they call Miracle a daily on-demand events.

There are no miracle, but ignorance of Quantum Science.

You were having a logical argument until you made a statement about Earth's Science been a cocktail of bullshit by Einstein and other pioneer scientists.

I bet without these their so called cocktail of bullshits you won't be able to post this farcical opinion of yours.
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by Nobody: 3:02pm On Apr 09, 2017
pizapato:


You were having a logical argument until you made a statement about Earth's Science been a cocktail of bullshit by Einstein and other pioneer scientists.

I bet without these their so called cocktail of bullshits you won't be able to post this farcical opinion of yours.


What makes you think you are not wrong ? I grew up studying the works of Einstein and Darwin, both are wrong. Einstein's Theory is even worst. They manufactured concepts and constants to stabilize equations. Do not even go there. Read my threads before you amuse yourself. If I have my way, I will have Einstein's Noble Prize revoked. Many science students today are so confused about the nature of the Universe because of Einstein's erroneous theories on Gravity, Relativity and Wave-Particle Paradox, cos some are already too hot-wired to their intellect.
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by xerxes456(m): 3:15pm On Apr 09, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
I am an atheist. I don’t believe in gods. None of them. Not yours, not theirs, not that one or this one. There is no evidence that gods exist. Period. I didn't start out atheist. I was raised Christian, and stayed that way until my early teens, when I started questioning and reading.

I haven’t prejudged anything, I came to these conclusions years ago after a whole lot of research. So far, I haven’t seen or heard any new arguments that persuade me to buy into religion. For me to believe the stories of the Bible are divine inspiration, I would first have to believe in the divine.

Clearly I don’t insist on Genesis being historical. Not a problem for me, but I live in a country where over 80% of the population believe in Adam and Eve, Noah, angles and demons as real and/or historical beings. That may not describe you, but that is way too many people who fail to connect with reality as far as I’m concerned.

There is nothing I've read or heard about that makes the mythology of a miracle working Jesus at all real for me. There are at least two common scenarios for these stories.

1. Jesus was the son of god, born of a virgin, worked miracles and was resurrected after his execution by the Romans

or

2. That was all made up, because we know that those kinds of stories were common in the day, and everyone of any importance was some kind of magic worker, son of a god or brought back to life.

Our understanding of reality, and the complete dearth of evidence for any of the above makes it easy for me to pick a side on this.

I happen to know many modern intelligent people who believe this nonsense. Some of them are involved in science and have no problem partitioning their mind so as to hold science and reason while also embracing some form of religion including Christianity. Some are friends and some are family. I suggest that your mind reading skills are lacking. (That’s OK because I don’t believe in mind reading either). I think it unlikely in the extreme that god(s) spoke to anyone, even thousands of years ago because as of yet there is no evidence for said god(s).

The Bible is written just the way I would expect the book to be written if it was put together by men (who knows, maybe some women, too) 2000 to 2500 years ago who had limited understanding of the world. There is nothing in it that speaks of inspiration except perhaps in the story telling aspect, but really nothing revealing or earth shattering, though I rather like some of Ecclesiastes and if you cherry pick the New Testament, there is some decent material there, though much of it can be found in many other writings.


I think the reason atheism is on the rise in Nigeria is because people are beginning to think for themselves and holding the religious books and claims to more scrutiny than accepting it at face value as their parents told them to. Just as our views on slavery and bigotry we learned are not humanistic views. I don't use christian/Muslim views as many christian/Islam faiths still preach hate for certain people and use their religious books as justification for this. and I think more people see this and say to themselves this is so wrong how can the bible/Koran be the word of god so then they doubt the bibles origin and teachings and eventually make the transition to atheism.
Whatever you think or researched doesn't change a thing... but I believe and pray you find your way home... that same Bible there in lies the truth and the light...
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by Sman37(m): 3:21pm On Apr 09, 2017
henrydadon:
the answer is simple..people are starting to wake up to realise the bible is a man made fiction book designed to keep people in place..

the stories in the bibles are no different from those Ghanaian 50naira story book i use to buy during my secondary school days..

have you ever wonder why the bible and Quran are both similar in most aspect?..that because both were created by man to keep people under control..the black man was doing perfectly fine until the white man came into our land deceived us with the so called " good news of the gospel" and successfully brainwashed us and colonize us..hahahaha..i give them kudos for that..their project really did worked..that why we are so damn behind in every aspect of life and they keep moving forward.

i think what most Christian lack is logical sense of reasoning..they will believe anything about the bible and God even though there no proof that he exist.

oh did i also mentioned that the so called supreme being have a son named jesus who he allowed suffer for millions of people..and the so called God created the devil but can't keep him in check but will rather watch millions of children suffer who have absolutely no sin..

did i also fail to mention that the so called God was unable to protect hundreds of people worshiping him (tb Joshua church and the new church that was been commissioned in uyo)..hmmm..that God must be a blood thristy God and he must really like blood.

atleast traditional worshipers gods will ask for goat head or chicken or any kind of animal..but this Christian omnipotent god seem to like human blood.

religion is more like a bondage to us it stop us from moving forward..you all go to chruch seeking for miracle without doing any thing.

look at the middle east..that place is fùcked up because of religion..they claim allah instructed them to carry out those barbaric act in return for virgins in heaven..if you check the quran you will find these there.

Koran 2:191 "slay the unbelievers wherever you find them"
Koran 3:21 "Muslims must not take the infidels as friends"
Koran 5:33 "Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam"
Koran 8:12 "Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Koran"
Koran 8:60 " Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels"
Koran 8:65 "The unbelievers are stupid, urge all Muslims to fight them"
Koran 9:5 "When the opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you find them"
Koran 9:123 "Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood"
Koran 22:19 "Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water, melt their skin and bellies"
Koran 47:4 "Do not hanker for peace with the infidels, behead them when you catch them".
Mass Murder
This is what the Lord of hosts has to
say: ‘I will punish what Amalek did to
Israel when he barred his way as he
was coming up from Egypt. Go, now,
attack Amalek, and deal with him and
all that he has under the ban. Do not
spare him, but kill men and women,
children and infants, oxen and sheep,
camels and asses.’ (1 Samuel 15:2-3
NAB)
You Have to Kill
Cursed be he who does the Lords work
remissly, cursed he who holds back his
sword from blood. (Jeremiah 48:10
NAB)
The Danites Kill the Next Town
But the territory of the Danites was too
small for them; so the Danites marched
up and attacked Leshem, which they
captured and put to the sword. Once
they had taken possession of Lesham,
they renamed the settlement after
their ancestor Dan. (Joshua 19:47 NAB)
God Kills Some More
Then the LORD said to me, “Even if
Moses and Samuel stood before me
pleading for these people, I wouldn’t
help them. Away with them! Get them
out of my sight! And if they say to you,
‘But where can we go?’ tell them, ‘This
is what the LORD says: Those who are
destined for death, to death; those
who are destined for war, to war; those
who are destined for famine, to
famine; those who are destined for
captivity, to captivity.’ “I will send four
kinds of destroyers against them,” says
the LORD. “I will send the sword to kill,
the dogs to drag away, the vultures to
devour, and the wild animals to finish
up what is left. Because of the wicked
things Manasseh son of Hezekiah, king
of Judah, did in Jerusalem, I will make
my people an object of horror to all the
kingdoms of the earth.” (Jeremiah
15:1-4 NLT)
God Promises More Killing
I will make Mount Seir utterly desolate,
killing off all who try to escape and any
who return. I will fill your mountains
with the dead. Your hills, your valleys,
and your streams will be filled with
people slaughtered by the sword. I will
make you desolate forever. Your cities
will never be rebuilt. Then you will
know that I am the LORD. (Ezekiel
35:7-9 NLT)
The Angel of Death
My angel will go before you and bring
you to the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites,
Canaanites, Hivites, and Jebusites; and I
will wipe them out. (Exodus 23:23
NAB)
Destruction of Ai
Then the LORD said to Joshua, “Do not
be afraid or discouraged. Take the
entire army and attack Ai, for I have
given to you the king of Ai, his people,
his city, and his land. You will destroy
them as you destroyed Jericho and its
king. But this time you may keep the
captured goods and the cattle for
yourselves. Set an ambush behind the
city.” So Joshua and the army of Israel
set out to attack Ai. Joshua chose thirty
thousand fighting men and sent them
out at night with these orders: “Hide in
ambush close behind the city and be
ready for action. When our main army
attacks, the men of Ai will come out to
fight as they did before, and we will
run away from them. We will let them
chase us until they have all left the city.
For they will say, ‘The Israelites are
running away from us as they did
before.’ Then you will jump up from
your ambush and take possession of
the city, for the LORD your God will
give it to you. Set the city on fire, as
the LORD has commanded. You have
your orders.” So they left that night
and lay in ambush between Bethel and
the west side of Ai. But Joshua
remained among the people in the
camp that night.
Early the next morning Joshua roused
his men and started toward Ai,
accompanied by the leaders of Israel.
They camped on the north side of Ai,
with a valley between them and the
city. That night Joshua sent five
thousand men to lie in ambush
between Bethel and Ai, on the west
side of the city. So they stationed the
main army north of the city and the
ambush west of the city. Joshua himself
spent that night in the valley. When
the king of Ai saw the Israelites across
the valley, he and all his army hurriedly
went out early the next morning and
attacked the Israelites at a place
overlooking the Jordan Valley. But he
didn’t realize there was an ambush
behind the city. Joshua and the
Israelite army fled toward the
wilderness as though they were badly
beaten, and all the men in the city
were called out to chase after them. In
this way, they were lured away from
the city. There was not a man left in Ai
or Bethel who did not chase after the
Israelites, and the city was left wide
open.
Then the LORD said to Joshua, “Point
your spear toward Ai, for I will give you
the city.” Joshua did as he was
commanded. As soon as Joshua gave
the signal, the men in ambush jumped
up and poured into the city. They
quickly captured it and set it on fire.
When the men of Ai looked behind
them, smoke from the city was filling
the sky, and they had nowhere to go.
For the Israelites who had fled in the
direction of the wilderness now turned
on their pursuers. When Joshua and the
other Israelites saw that the ambush
had succeeded and that smoke was
rising from the city, they turned and
attacked the men of Ai. Then the
Israelites who were inside the city
came out and started killing the enemy
from the rear. So the men of Ai were
caught in a trap, and all of them died.
Not a single person survived or
escaped. Only the king of Ai was taken
alive and brought to Joshua.
When the Israelite army finished killing
all the men outside the city, they went
back and finished off everyone inside.
So the entire population of Ai was
wiped out that day – twelve thousand
in all. For Joshua kept holding out his
spear until everyone who had lived in
Ai was completely destroyed. Only the
cattle and the treasures of the city
were not destroyed, for the Israelites
kept these for themselves, as the LORD
had commanded Joshua. So Ai became
a permanent mound of ruins, desolate
to this very day. Joshua hung the king
of Ai on a tree and left him there until
evening. At sunset the Israelites took
down the body and threw it in front of
the city gate. They piled a great heap
of stones over him that can still be
seen today. (Joshua 8:1-29 NLT)
Killing at Jericho
When the people heard the sound of
the horns, they shouted as loud as they
could. Suddenly, the walls of Jericho
collapsed, and the Israelites charged
straight into the city from every side
and captured it. They completely
destroyed everything in it – men and
women, young and old, cattle, sheep,
donkeys – everything. (Joshua 6:20-21
NLT)
God Kills an Extended Family
“You have done more evil than all who
lived before you. You have made other
gods and have made me furious with
your gold calves. And since you have
turned your back on me, I will bring
disaster on your dynasty and kill all
your sons, slave or free alike. I will burn
up your royal dynasty as one burns up
trash until it is all gone. I, the LORD,
vow that the members of your family
who die in the city will be eaten by
dogs, and those who die in the field
will be eaten by vultures.'” Then Ahijah
said to Jeroboam’s wife, “Go on home,
and when you enter the city, the child
will die. All Israel will mourn for him
and bury him. He is the only member of
your family who will have a proper
burial, for this child is the only good
thing that the LORD, the God of Israel,
sees in the entire family of Jeroboam.
And the LORD will raise up a king over
Israel who will destroy the family of
Jeroboam. This will happen today, even
now! Then the LORD will shake Israel
like a reed whipped about in a stream.
He will uproot the people of Israel from
this good land that he gave their
ancestors and will scatter them beyond
the Euphrates River, for they have
angered the LORD by worshiping
Asherah poles. He will abandon Israel
because Jeroboam sinned and made all
of Israel sin along with him.” (1 Kings
14:9-16 NLT)
Mass Murder
The men of Israel withdrew through
the territory of the Benjaminites,
putting to the sword the inhabitants of
the city, the livestock, and all they
chanced upon. Moreover they
destroyed by fire all the cities they
came upon. (Judges 20:48 NAB)
The Angel of Death
That night the angel of the Lord went
forth and struck down one hundred
and eighty five thousand men in the
Assyrian camp. Early the next morning,
there they were, all the corpuses of the
dead. (2 Kings 19:35 NAB)
Kill Your Neighbors
(Moses) stood at the entrance to the
camp and shouted, “All of you who are
on the LORD’s side, come over here
and join me.” And all the Levites came.
He told them, “This is what the LORD,
the God of Israel, says: Strap on your
swords! Go back and forth from one
end of the camp to the other, killing
even your brothers, friends, and
neighbors.” The Levites obeyed Moses,
and about three thousand people died
that day. Then Moses told the Levites,
“Today you have been ordained for the
service of the LORD, for you obeyed
him even though it meant killing your
own sons and brothers. Because of this,
he will now give you a great blessing.”
(Exodus 32:26-29 NLT)
Kill the Family of Sinners
And Joshua said to Achan, My son, give,
I pray thee, glory to the LORD God of
Israel, and make confession to him; and
tell me now what thou hast done, hide
it not from me. And Achan answered
Joshua, and said, Indeed I have sinned
against the LORD God of Israel, and thus
and thus have I done. When I saw
among the spoils a goodly Babylonish
garment, and two hundred shekels of
silver, and a wedge of gold of fifty
shekels weight, then I coveted them,
and took them, and behold, they are
hid in the earth in the midst of my tent,
and the silver under it.” [Note that the
sin is not looting, but failing to give the
loot to the treasury of the Lord.] “So
Joshua sent messengers, and they ran
to the tent, and behold, it was hid in
his tent, and the silver under it. And
they took them from the midst of the
tent, and brought them to Joshua, and
to all the children of Israel, and laid
them out before the LORD. And Joshua,
and all Israel with him, took Achan the
son of Zerah, and the silver, and the
garment, and the wedge of gold, and
his sons, and his daughters, and his
oxen, and his asses, and his sheep, and
his tent, and all that he had: and they
brought them to the valley of Achor.
And Joshua said, why hast thou
troubled us? the LORD shall trouble
thee this day. And all Israel stoned him
with stones, and burned them with
fire, after they had stoned them with
stones. And they raised over him a
great heap of stones to this day. So the
LORD turned from the fierceness of his
anger: wherefore the name of that
place was called the valley of Achor to
this day. (Joshua 7:19-26 Webster’s
Bible)
Kill Followers of Other Religions
While the Israelites were camped at
Acacia, some of the men defiled
themselves by sleeping with the local
Moabite women. These women invited
them to attend sacrifices to their gods,
and soon the Israelites were feasting
with them and worshiping the gods of
Moab. Before long Israel was joining in
the worship of Baal of Peor, causing the
LORD’s anger to blaze against his
people. The LORD issued the following
command to Moses: “Seize all the
ringleaders and execute them before
the LORD in broad daylight, so his fierce
anger will turn away from the people
of Israel.” So Moses ordered Israel’s
judges to execute everyone who had
joined in worshiping Baal of Peor. Just
then one of the Israelite men brought a
Midianite woman into the camp, right
before the eyes of Moses and all the
people, as they were weeping at the
entrance of the Tabernacle. When
Phinehas son of Eleazar and grandson
of Aaron the priest saw this, he jumped
up and left the assembly. Then he took
a spear and rushed after the man into
his tent. Phinehas thrust the spear all
the way through the man’s body and
into the woman’s stomach. So the
plague against the Israelites was
stopped, but not before 24,000 people
had died. (Numbers 25:1-9 NLT)
Murder
At the customary time for offering the
evening sacrifice, Elijah the prophet
walked up to the altar and prayed, “O
LORD, God of Abraham, Isaac, and
Jacob, prove today that you are God in
Israel and that I am your servant. Prove
that I have done all this at your
command. O LORD, answer me! Answer
me so these people will know that you,
O LORD, are God and that you have
brought them back to yourself.”
Immediately the fire of the LORD
flashed down from heaven and burned
up the young bull, the wood, the
stones, and the dust. It even licked up
all the water in the ditch! And when
the people saw it, they fell on their
faces and cried out, “The LORD is God!
The LORD is God!” Then Elijah
commanded, “Seize all the prophets of
Baal. Don’t let a single one escape!” So
the people seized them all, and Elijah
took them down to the Kishon Valley
and killed them there. (1 Kings
18:36-40 NLT)
Kill All of Babylon
“Go up, my warriors, against the land of
Merathaim and against the people of
Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the
land of rebels, a land that I will judge!
Pursue, kill, and completely destroy
them, as I have commanded you,” says
the LORD. “Let the battle cry be heard
in the land, a shout of great
destruction”. (Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)
Micah Kills a Whole Town
Then, with Micah’s idols and his priest,
the men of Dan came to the town of
Laish, whose people were peaceful and
secure. They attacked and killed all the
people and burned the town to the
ground. There was no one to rescue
the residents of the town, for they
lived a great distance from Sidon and
had no allies nearby. This happened in
the valley near Beth-rehob.Then the
people of the tribe of Dan rebuilt the
town and lived there. They renamed
the town Dan after their ancestor,
Israel’s son, but it had originally been
called Laish. (Judges 18:27-29 NLT)
(Note that God approves of this
slaughter in verse 6.)
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by Sman37(m): 3:45pm On Apr 09, 2017
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by Demayour: 4:02pm On Apr 09, 2017
In answering the question, the first thing I'd say is that the world which is like a flat disk is running on edge, faster than before and that motion is about to end. It was already predicted.
The only thing that worry me about humans generally and this generation in particular is that we always feel as if we know everything when in fact, we know next to nothing. Humans have very minute knowledge of things outside this cage called earth not to talk of the universe. we're not even sure whether aliens are real or not. Yet, people will say that God is not real. That's a long debate anyway.
But in actual fact, the fact that Christianity opens our mind to think freely is what the devil is using against many people. Thinking they're free from religion, they became slaves to freedom itself. Philosophers have wasted years jumping from wall to wall arguing about God and Jesus in particular. What is their conclusion? From Aristotle to western European philosophers like David Hume, Bertrand Russell, Immanuel Kant and so on. They all made proposition without concluding whether God exists or not.
Yet, this generation is the busiest so far. we are busy doing nothing. We wanted to erase God totally from our memory thinking that being conscious of him is what made us feel in bondage.
The newer generation of Americans came and saw their society already progressing. They thought it was human wisdom. They erased religion from their schools, kept Bible away from their kids. What's the outcome? Psychological diseased kids all over the country shooting people in frenzy.

The Bible already left some spaces for people who would cancel God from their memory. To think that 'atheist' (who couldn't even give a logical explanation for their own existence) would not exist is to make the Bible a liar.
But yet, Jesus still loves everyone and he is willing to make a change only if you are ready for him.
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by xerxes456(m): 4:03pm On Apr 09, 2017
The scriptures predicted it, Christ even said that in the last days, knowledge will increase and so many will be deceived such that even the very elect will scarcely be saved, this may be the last days or not but we are getting there, all these are signs...
Christianity is a very personal experience, a true Christian must have gotten a personal experience with God, it may be spectacular like in the case of Paul, or not like in the case of Andrew, it's more spiritual and intensely deep, the Holy spirit have a major role to play but Men must pray...
Most children who grew up in Christian homes have very high expectations from the society and their family, this pressure is enough to make a person build certain resistance on the way to self discovery... in the process the child becomes defiant and start doing the exact opposite of what is expected and if care is not taken this could lead to certain self destruction...
Parents have a great role to play, forcing their will on their children will work only before adolescence, the rest should be more of training teaching and nurturing and introducing them to christ at an early age, helping them understand what christianity is all about etc, while praying fervently for them to come to a full understanding... 
But in our society today the rate of crime and wanton lifestyle the rave of vanity and violence shows that Christian parents have failed woefully, the love of money and all it brings, the rat race so as to meet up with the necessities of life have taken the place of the family alter, most parent feel they can get a quick fix by shoving christianity down the throat of their kids while still trying to keep up with the Joneses... Hmmm children learn more by watching than by listening, parents don't practice what they preach...
What about the church... the church today is more or less like every other place... it's no longer a sanctuary a place of refuge, where one can find rest and admonition for an aching heart, a heart full of pain, turmoil, anguish, disappointment and  severally battered with the ups and downs of life,there is no hope any where, the only place of at least a small glimpse of light, the church, has been overtaken with so much gloom and darkness, more like a bussiness centre with the pastor as the CEO, soulless, can I stayed add to your woes, it's all about tithes, offering and thanksgiving at least for being alive (whereas to some it's better dead than being alive) the model of the church is carved out to suit the agrarian age, the society as it is, requires a more sophisticated and proactive church that can meet the present sedentary lifestyle of our time, a more aggressive approach to the various challenges be devilish Christians of our time, occupying their heart and making them belive more on personal efforts than on God is required, but no, if you're not rich, or from a rich family you cannot even be a member not to talk of being recognised by the pastor in time of grieve, the first thing you're asked when you want to see the leaders for counselling is, Do you pay your Tithe, even for a jobless guy? That's so cold...
Personally I don't believe in the church as it is, I believe I am the church the Holy spirit lives in me and I grow in grace as I study the word of God... Christianity is so personal that not even the church of demons and angels etc can deceive me, I go to church just to see some happy faces, pray with members and listen to some sermons (I select the ones compliant with the scriptures and drop the rest) to me heaven and Christianity is more between me and God and no matter what happens in or out of the church, I can only pray that God saves us all, and preach as much as I can... Christianity is a personal experience borne from a conviction by the Holy spirit and fueled with a personal desire to know more of God... ‎
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by xerxes456(m): 4:09pm On Apr 09, 2017
Sman37:

Mass Murder
This is what the Lord of hosts has to
say: ‘I will punish what Amalek did to
Israel when he barred his way as he
was coming up from Egypt. Go, now,
attack Amalek, and deal with him and
all that he has under the ban. Do not
spare him, but kill men and women,
children and infants, oxen and sheep,
camels and asses.’ (1 Samuel 15:2-3
NAB)
You Have to Kill
Cursed be he who does the Lords work
remissly, cursed he who holds back his
sword from blood. (Jeremiah 48:10
NAB)
The Danites Kill the Next Town
But the territory of the Danites was too
small for them; so the Danites marched
up and attacked Leshem, which they
captured and put to the sword. Once
they had taken possession of Lesham,
they renamed the settlement after
their ancestor Dan. (Joshua 19:47 NAB)
God Kills Some More
Then the LORD said to me, “Even if
Moses and Samuel stood before me
pleading for these people, I wouldn’t
help them. Away with them! Get them
out of my sight! And if they say to you,
‘But where can we go?’ tell them, ‘This
is what the LORD says: Those who are
destined for death, to death; those
who are destined for war, to war; those
who are destined for famine, to
famine; those who are destined for
captivity, to captivity.’ “I will send four
kinds of destroyers against them,” says
the LORD. “I will send the sword to kill,
the dogs to drag away, the vultures to
devour, and the wild animals to finish
up what is left. Because of the wicked
things Manasseh son of Hezekiah, king
of Judah, did in Jerusalem, I will make
my people an object of horror to all the
kingdoms of the earth.” (Jeremiah
15:1-4 NLT)
God Promises More Killing
I will make Mount Seir utterly desolate,
killing off all who try to escape and any
who return. I will fill your mountains
with the dead. Your hills, your valleys,
and your streams will be filled with
people slaughtered by the sword. I will
make you desolate forever. Your cities
will never be rebuilt. Then you will
know that I am the LORD. (Ezekiel
35:7-9 NLT)
The Angel of Death
My angel will go before you and bring
you to the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites,
Canaanites, Hivites, and Jebusites; and I
will wipe them out. (Exodus 23:23
NAB)
Destruction of Ai
Then the LORD said to Joshua, “Do not
be afraid or discouraged. Take the
entire army and attack Ai, for I have
given to you the king of Ai, his people,
his city, and his land. You will destroy
them as you destroyed Jericho and its
king. But this time you may keep the
captured goods and the cattle for
yourselves. Set an ambush behind the
city.” So Joshua and the army of Israel
set out to attack Ai. Joshua chose thirty
thousand fighting men and sent them
out at night with these orders: “Hide in
ambush close behind the city and be
ready for action. When our main army
attacks, the men of Ai will come out to
fight as they did before, and we will
run away from them. We will let them
chase us until they have all left the city.
For they will say, ‘The Israelites are
running away from us as they did
before.’ Then you will jump up from
your ambush and take possession of
the city, for the LORD your God will
give it to you. Set the city on fire, as
the LORD has commanded. You have
your orders.” So they left that night
and lay in ambush between Bethel and
the west side of Ai. But Joshua
remained among the people in the
camp that night.
Early the next morning Joshua roused
his men and started toward Ai,
accompanied by the leaders of Israel.
They camped on the north side of Ai,
with a valley between them and the
city. That night Joshua sent five
thousand men to lie in ambush
between Bethel and Ai, on the west
side of the city. So they stationed the
main army north of the city and the
ambush west of the city. Joshua himself
spent that night in the valley. When
the king of Ai saw the Israelites across
the valley, he and all his army hurriedly
went out early the next morning and
attacked the Israelites at a place
overlooking the Jordan Valley. But he
didn’t realize there was an ambush
behind the city. Joshua and the
Israelite army fled toward the
wilderness as though they were badly
beaten, and all the men in the city
were called out to chase after them. In
this way, they were lured away from
the city. There was not a man left in Ai
or Bethel who did not chase after the
Israelites, and the city was left wide
open.
Then the LORD said to Joshua, “Point
your spear toward Ai, for I will give you
the city.” Joshua did as he was
commanded. As soon as Joshua gave
the signal, the men in ambush jumped
up and poured into the city. They
quickly captured it and set it on fire.
When the men of Ai looked behind
them, smoke from the city was filling
the sky, and they had nowhere to go.
For the Israelites who had fled in the
direction of the wilderness now turned
on their pursuers. When Joshua and the
other Israelites saw that the ambush
had succeeded and that smoke was
rising from the city, they turned and
attacked the men of Ai. Then the
Israelites who were inside the city
came out and started killing the enemy
from the rear. So the men of Ai were
caught in a trap, and all of them died.
Not a single person survived or
escaped. Only the king of Ai was taken
alive and brought to Joshua.
When the Israelite army finished killing
all the men outside the city, they went
back and finished off everyone inside.
So the entire population of Ai was
wiped out that day – twelve thousand
in all. For Joshua kept holding out his
spear until everyone who had lived in
Ai was completely destroyed. Only the
cattle and the treasures of the city
were not destroyed, for the Israelites
kept these for themselves, as the LORD
had commanded Joshua. So Ai became
a permanent mound of ruins, desolate
to this very day. Joshua hung the king
of Ai on a tree and left him there until
evening. At sunset the Israelites took
down the body and threw it in front of
the city gate. They piled a great heap
of stones over him that can still be
seen today. (Joshua 8:1-29 NLT)
Killing at Jericho
When the people heard the sound of
the horns, they shouted as loud as they
could. Suddenly, the walls of Jericho
collapsed, and the Israelites charged
straight into the city from every side
and captured it. They completely
destroyed everything in it – men and
women, young and old, cattle, sheep,
donkeys – everything. (Joshua 6:20-21
NLT)
God Kills an Extended Family
“You have done more evil than all who
lived before you. You have made other
gods and have made me furious with
your gold calves. And since you have
turned your back on me, I will bring
disaster on your dynasty and kill all
your sons, slave or free alike. I will burn
up your royal dynasty as one burns up
trash until it is all gone. I, the LORD,
vow that the members of your family
who die in the city will be eaten by
dogs, and those who die in the field
will be eaten by vultures.'” Then Ahijah
said to Jeroboam’s wife, “Go on home,
and when you enter the city, the child
will die. All Israel will mourn for him
and bury him. He is the only member of
your family who will have a proper
burial, for this child is the only good
thing that the LORD, the God of Israel,
sees in the entire family of Jeroboam.
And the LORD will raise up a king over
Israel who will destroy the family of
Jeroboam. This will happen today, even
now! Then the LORD will shake Israel
like a reed whipped about in a stream.
He will uproot the people of Israel from
this good land that he gave their
ancestors and will scatter them beyond
the Euphrates River, for they have
angered the LORD by worshiping
Asherah poles. He will abandon Israel
because Jeroboam sinned and made all
of Israel sin along with him.” (1 Kings
14:9-16 NLT)
Mass Murder
The men of Israel withdrew through
the territory of the Benjaminites,
putting to the sword the inhabitants of
the city, the livestock, and all they
chanced upon. Moreover they
destroyed by fire all the cities they
came upon. (Judges 20:48 NAB)
The Angel of Death
That night the angel of the Lord went
forth and struck down one hundred
and eighty five thousand men in the
Assyrian camp. Early the next morning,
there they were, all the corpuses of the
dead. (2 Kings 19:35 NAB)
Kill Your Neighbors
(Moses) stood at the entrance to the
camp and shouted, “All of you who are
on the LORD’s side, come over here
and join me.” And all the Levites came.
He told them, “This is what the LORD,
the God of Israel, says: Strap on your
swords! Go back and forth from one
end of the camp to the other, killing
even your brothers, friends, and
neighbors.” The Levites obeyed Moses,
and about three thousand people died
that day. Then Moses told the Levites,
“Today you have been ordained for the
service of the LORD, for you obeyed
him even though it meant killing your
own sons and brothers. Because of this,
he will now give you a great blessing.”
(Exodus 32:26-29 NLT)
Kill the Family of Sinners
And Joshua said to Achan, My son, give,
I pray thee, glory to the LORD God of
Israel, and make confession to him; and
tell me now what thou hast done, hide
it not from me. And Achan answered
Joshua, and said, Indeed I have sinned
against the LORD God of Israel, and thus
and thus have I done. When I saw
among the spoils a goodly Babylonish
garment, and two hundred shekels of
silver, and a wedge of gold of fifty
shekels weight, then I coveted them,
and took them, and behold, they are
hid in the earth in the midst of my tent,
and the silver under it.” [Note that the
sin is not looting, but failing to give the
loot to the treasury of the Lord.] “So
Joshua sent messengers, and they ran
to the tent, and behold, it was hid in
his tent, and the silver under it. And
they took them from the midst of the
tent, and brought them to Joshua, and
to all the children of Israel, and laid
them out before the LORD. And Joshua,
and all Israel with him, took Achan the
son of Zerah, and the silver, and the
garment, and the wedge of gold, and
his sons, and his daughters, and his
oxen, and his asses, and his sheep, and
his tent, and all that he had: and they
brought them to the valley of Achor.
And Joshua said, why hast thou
troubled us? the LORD shall trouble
thee this day. And all Israel stoned him
with stones, and burned them with
fire, after they had stoned them with
stones. And they raised over him a
great heap of stones to this day. So the
LORD turned from the fierceness of his
anger: wherefore the name of that
place was called the valley of Achor to
this day. (Joshua 7:19-26 Webster’s
Bible)
Kill Followers of Other Religions
While the Israelites were camped at
Acacia, some of the men defiled
themselves by sleeping with the local
Moabite women. These women invited
them to attend sacrifices to their gods,
and soon the Israelites were feasting
with them and worshiping the gods of
Moab. Before long Israel was joining in
the worship of Baal of Peor, causing the
LORD’s anger to blaze against his
people. The LORD issued the following
command to Moses: “Seize all the
ringleaders and execute them before
the LORD in broad daylight, so his fierce
anger will turn away from the people
of Israel.” So Moses ordered Israel’s
judges to execute everyone who had
joined in worshiping Baal of Peor. Just
then one of the Israelite men brought a
Midianite woman into the camp, right
before the eyes of Moses and all the
people, as they were weeping at the
entrance of the Tabernacle. When
Phinehas son of Eleazar and grandson
of Aaron the priest saw this, he jumped
up and left the assembly. Then he took
a spear and rushed after the man into
his tent. Phinehas thrust the spear all
the way through the man’s body and
into the woman’s stomach. So the
plague against the Israelites was
stopped, but not before 24,000 people
had died. (Numbers 25:1-9 NLT)
Murder
At the customary time for offering the
evening sacrifice, Elijah the prophet
walked up to the altar and prayed, “O
LORD, God of Abraham, Isaac, and
Jacob, prove today that you are God in
Israel and that I am your servant. Prove
that I have done all this at your
command. O LORD, answer me! Answer
me so these people will know that you,
O LORD, are God and that you have
brought them back to yourself.”
Immediately the fire of the LORD
flashed down from heaven and burned
up the young bull, the wood, the
stones, and the dust. It even licked up
all the water in the ditch! And when
the people saw it, they fell on their
faces and cried out, “The LORD is God!
The LORD is God!” Then Elijah
commanded, “Seize all the prophets of
Baal. Don’t let a single one escape!” So
the people seized them all, and Elijah
took them down to the Kishon Valley
and killed them there. (1 Kings
18:36-40 NLT)
Kill All of Babylon
“Go up, my warriors, against the land of
Merathaim and against the people of
Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the
land of rebels, a land that I will judge!
Pursue, kill, and completely destroy
them, as I have commanded you,” says
the LORD. “Let the battle cry be heard
in the land, a shout of great
destruction”. (Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)
Micah Kills a Whole Town
Then, with Micah’s idols and his priest,
the men of Dan came to the town of
Laish, whose people were peaceful and
secure. They attacked and killed all the
people and burned the town to the
ground. There was no one to rescue
the residents of the town, for they
lived a great distance from Sidon and
had no allies nearby. This happened in
the valley near Beth-rehob.Then the
people of the tribe of Dan rebuilt the
town and lived there. They renamed
the town Dan after their ancestor,
Israel’s son, but it had originally been
called Laish. (Judges 18:27-29 NLT)
(Note that God approves of this
slaughter in verse 6.)
everything you just talked about has nothing to do with Christianity... this is pure Judaism... it's two world separated by the Lifetime, Death, Resurrection and ascension of Christ...
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by otemanuduno: 4:42pm On Apr 09, 2017
walls01:


hahahahaha I can't laugh, but this is true, we have use it to fight countless war in the Niger delta. but if you are serious you can come to delta my uncle do such charm come with your own gun so you don't think it is fake.

when do you agree to go, cause am in abuja now and we need to plan this. science believe in practical and this is the easiest way to practice spiritualism

And you think I can't explain the use of charm psychologically? Charms work on the victims because of fear. It is the belief In a charm that makes it work, not the charm in itself. Assuming ur uncle was alive when the white colonized us, I guess he would have used that charm to stop them all cheesy
What do u think?
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by otemanuduno: 4:47pm On Apr 09, 2017
xerxes456:
everything you just talked about has nothing to do with Christianity... this is pure Judaism... it's two world separated by the Lifetime, Death, Resurrection and ascension of Christ...
OH... Now I understand the whole concept of yahweh sending jesus to die. You mean Yahweh sent him to die so that all the evil himself committed against humanity could be forgiven him by humans? Okay... No P, we humans have forgiven yahweh of his numerous evil and wickedness. Realmindz abeg show, this guy said that all the evil done by Yahweh should be forgotten because jesus has come to die. Should we forgive yahweh or we should treat his fvck ups? cool
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by walls01: 4:48pm On Apr 09, 2017
otemanuduno:


And you think I can't explain the use of charm psychologically? Charms work on the victims because of fear. It is the belief In a charm that makes it work, not the charm in itself. Assuming ur uncle was alive when the white colonized us, I guess he would have used that charm to stop them all cheesy
What do u think?

charm works but it is restricted by spiritual laws. psychological explanations hide the limit of man logical reasoning,

during the time of colonization do our fathers already know what is a gun?
Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by yinks0067: 4:50pm On Apr 09, 2017
dangotesmummy:
read my earlier post. Christianity is not a scam as it were,it's the business men and opportunists that have turned Christianity into a joke and a business venture

Christianity is an individual race. It's not even a religion, it's a faith.there's a big difference
Wow you guys nailed it all.. I have been silent over this for years not knowing youguys found the truth already
As for me i have given up on religion......

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Re: Why Are Many Born In Christian Homes Turning Their Back Against The Gospel? by otemanuduno: 4:50pm On Apr 09, 2017
walls01:


hahahahaha I can't laugh, but this is true, we have use it to fight countless war in the Niger delta. but if you are serious you can come to delta my uncle do such charm come with your own gun so you don't think it is fake.

when do you agree to go, cause am in abuja now and we need to plan this. science believe in practical and this is the easiest way to practice spiritualism

Let's go when you return from Abuja? When will u return from Abuja?

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