Different strokes for different folks, I have been in the US for two months on green card and I am already thinking of going back home..

This place ain't no child play, if you have a fairly okay life in Nigeria, you can feed yourself and family, have a roof over your head, then trust me you have no business here..

Mind you I have also been to every reasonable country around the world. So there is virtually anything new anybody can tell me..

Like one poster rightly said, "Poverty is defined by where you live and not by converting currencies."

All I see here is people living from hand to mouth and barely making it. If you come here on a visitors visa and you over stay your visa then say bye bye to your life. Once you get stucked in the system then you ain't getting out of it anytime soon.

Nigeria my beloved country.. I miss you and can't wait to be back in a country where I am a first class citizen

This is serious.

sensisosu:
Different strokes for different folks, I have been in the US for two months on green card and I am already thinking of going back home..

This place ain't no child play, if you have a fairly okay life in Nigeria, you can feed yourself and family, have a roof over your head, then trust me you have no business here..

Mind you I have also been to every reasonable country around the world. So there is virtually anything new anybody can tell me..

Like one poster rightly said, "Poverty is defined by where you live and not by converting currencies."

All I see here is people living from hand to mouth and barely making it. If you come here on a visitors visa and you over stay your visa then say bye bye to your life. Once you get stucked in the system then you ain't getting out of it anytime soon.

Nigeria my beloved country.. I miss you and can't wait to be back in a country where I am a first class citizen

You need to expand your circle of friends, move out from the projects and visit the suburbs

Sorry the days of fantasies and Alice in Wonderland are now officially over. The United States middle class is shrinking and it is glaring even in the suburbs for all to see. People who earn $150,000 can't even afford to pay college tuition for their kids in cash and most even refuse to become co-signers on the documents. If making money is the definition of success then Nigeria is a trillion times better than America. In 2017 America almost 70% of the population can't even come up with a merely $400 in an emergency. The painful truth is that no Nigeria traveled to America because of basic amenities it was after we got there and reality sets in that we started consoling ourselves with living in a system that works. An average Nigerian is after money and there is none to pick on the streets of Plano

Bawss1:


You need to expand your circle of friends, move out from the projects and visit the suburbs

ayodele234:
Sorry the days of fantasies and Alice in Wonderland are now officially over. The United States middle class is shrinking and it is glaring even in the suburbs for all to see. People who earn $150,000 can't even afford to pay college tuition for their kids in cash and most even refuse to become co-signers on the documents. If making money is the definition of success then Nigeria is a trillion times better than America. In 2017 America almost 70% of the population can't even come up with a merely $400 in an emergency. The painful truth is that no Nigeria traveled to America because of basic amenities it was after we got there and reality sets in that we started consoling ourselves with living in a system that works. An average Nigerian is after money and there is none to pick on the streets of Plano

If you have money , africa is sweet die . Good climate , real organic fruits and food ( That cost a fortune for rich white people . Non GMO foods ) , house built paid for . no stress , servants at your service / gate man , cooks , house maids . here extremely rich people use that luxury.

Talking about power , with the price of solar panels that keep dropping ,why not .... Use it . ? Now you can even do it hybrid
I'll never pay electricity bill when my house is done .
For a place that have sunshine most of the day .

Talking about food . really ?
Get an extra piece of land . grow your own food . have chicken poultry.
Here in the usa only rich people own big farm rach etc.. .
We can do the same thing too.

For the rest Work hard as you did in the west . Build a business . Dont brag ... Keep a low profil. And life is good .

ayodele234:
Sorry the days of fantasies and Alice in Wonderland are now officially over. The United States middle class is shrinking and it is glaring even in the suburbs for all to see. People who earn $150,000 can't even afford to pay college tuition for their kids in cash and most even refuse to become co-signers on the documents. If making money is the definition of success then Nigeria is a trillion times better than America. In 2017 America almost 70% of the population can't even come up with a merely $400 in an emergency. The painful truth is that no Nigeria traveled to America because of basic amenities it was after we got there and reality sets in that we started consoling ourselves with living in a system that works. An average Nigerian is after money and there is none to pick on the streets of Plano

Where did you get your figures from? Who do you know that makes $150K/yr that cannot afford to pay college tuition for his/her kids? Moreover, the fact that many people opt for financial instruments to pay for college is not a measure of wealth or lack of. The number of American families with incomes over $75K/yr has tripled over the decades so which shrinking are you talking about about?

If Nigeria is a trillion times better than the States when it comes to making money why is the GDP of Nigeria $5,900 compared to the States' $57,300? (using 2016 figures https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html). The same Nigeria where it was reported that only a small fraction, just 2% of the banked population, have more than N500K in their bank accounts (http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/06/2-nigerians-90-bank-deposits-ndic/) Are you referring to the other Nigeria from Alice in Wonderland

If you think that the majority of Americans are living from hand to mouth then, like I said, I think you need to expand your circle of friends and acquaintances. The streets are not paved with gold, true, but there is a reason the US remains the top destination for people looking to improve their economic lot.

deepchocolate:


If you have money , africa is sweet die . Good climate , real organic fruits and food ( That cost a fortune for rich white people . Non GMO foods ) , house built paid for . no stress , servants at your service / gate man , cooks , house maids . here extremely rich people use that luxury.

Talking about power , with the price of solar panels that keep dropping ,why not .... Use it . ? Now you can even do it hybrid
I'll never pay electricity bill when my house is done .
For a place that have sunshine most of the day .

Talking about food . really ?
Get an extra piece of land . grow your own food . have chicken poultry.
Here in the usa only rich people own big farm rach etc.. .
We can do the same thing too.

For the rest Work hard as you did in the west . Build a business . Dont brag ... Keep a low profil. And life is good .

IF

If you have money you will enjoy in almost any part of the world but it all boils down to the big IF . . .

Bawss1:


Where did you get your figures from? Who do you know that makes $150K/yr that cannot afford to pay college tuition for his/her kids? Moreover, the fact that many people opt for financial instruments to pay for college is not a measure of wealth or lack of. The number of American families with incomes over $75K/yr has tripled over the decades so which shrinking are you talking about about?

If Nigeria is a trillion times better than the States when it comes to making money why is the GDP of Nigeria $5,900 compared to the States' $57,300? (using 2016 figures https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html). The same Nigeria where it was reported that only a small fraction, just 2% of the banked population, have more than N500K in their bank accounts (http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/06/2-nigerians-90-bank-deposits-ndic/) Are you referring to the other Nigeria from Alice in Wonderland

If you think that the majority of Americans are living from hand to mouth then, like I said, I think you need to expand your circle of friends and acquaintances. The streets are not paved with gold, true, but there is a reason the US remains the top destination for people looking to improve their economic lot.

7 out of 10 american dont have $1000 in saving

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/10/09/savings-study/91083712/

More than half ameeican cant come up with $500 in case of emergency .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3387392/More-half-Americans-just-500-away-personal-financial-disaster-t-handle-unexpected-emergency-bill.html

In fact i was listening to a show where the scholars are trying to find a new definition to what it means to be a middle class in america .
Many of some kind of debts one way or another.

Bawss1:


You need to expand your circle of friends, move out from the projects and visit the suburbs

Brilliant response

ayodele234:
Sorry the days of fantasies and Alice in Wonderland are now officially over. The United States middle class is shrinking and it is glaring even in the suburbs for all to see. People who earn $150,000 can't even afford to pay college tuition for their kids in cash and most even refuse to become co-signers on the documents. If making money is the definition of success then Nigeria is a trillion times better than America. In 2017 America almost 70% of the population can't even come up with a merely $400 in an emergency. The painful truth is that no Nigeria traveled to America because of basic amenities it was after we got there and reality sets in that we started consoling ourselves with living in a system that works. An average Nigerian is after money and there is none to pick on the streets of Plano

Plano? I know it very well. Lived up the street in Celina for a few years.

I remember Plano as having very nice enclaves of high earners.

Okay lads, what is the consensus?

Are we selfish, wicked or, gasp, both?

deepchocolate:


7 out of 10 american dont have $1000 in saving

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/10/09/savings-study/91083712/

More than half ameeican cant come up with $500 in case of emergency .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3387392/More-half-Americans-just-500-away-personal-financial-disaster-t-handle-unexpected-emergency-bill.html

In fact i was listening to a show where the scholars are trying to find a new definition to what it means to be a middle class in america .
Many of some kind of debts one way or another.

How many Nigerians can come up with the aforementioned?!

No data?

I'm struggling to understand your point.

The truth is....Your best bet would be a labour skill shortage demand occupation or Job. that is an Occupation or Job the Foreign Country is having difficulty getting their Indigenes/Citizens to do the work/ job like ... Medicine, Nursing, Information Technology I.T, PhD studiers in the foreign Country

Indians have strength and job networks in I.T, Microsoft M.D Indian, Google M.D Indian so Indians have the Upper Hand in I.T, Some Nigerians still get in shsas
HealthCare are not easy to get into,and healthcare would need mentally demanding exams or going back to School to restudy.....
I personslly knew a U.S Born American Citizen Secondary School Mate who was a Brilliant Commercial Student....in Secondary School

Now a U.S Military Senior Nurse earning.....THIS GUY IS AN AMERICAN BORN U.S.A CITIZEN YET HE SWITCHED FROM COMMERCIAL TO NURSING AND IS IN THE MILITARY....I believe He did it for the Money and Job Security despite being born a Citizen


. Good things are not always easy especially in a Foreign Country and the In demand Available paying opportunities might not be Your exact passion but can give You a job, work permit and fair income.....You have to decide if Your Priority is Money or Passion



You need information, And informed plan and strategy and some Good money to execute the Plan + Studying, hardworking

claremont:


How many Nigerians can come up with the aforementioned?!

No data?

I'm struggling to understand your point.

This

deepchocolate:


7 out of 10 american dont have $1000 in saving

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/10/09/savings-study/91083712/

More than half ameeican cant come up with $500 in case of emergency .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3387392/More-half-Americans-just-500-away-personal-financial-disaster-t-handle-unexpected-emergency-bill.html

In fact i was listening to a show where the scholars are trying to find a new definition to what it means to be a middle class in america .
Many of some kind of debts one way or another.

As deplorable as those stats are, are you (and the other gentleman I quoted) suggesting that Nigerians have it better than Americans with regard to standard of living?

EgunMogaji:
Okay lads, what is the consensus?

Are we selfish, wicked or, gasp, both?

It has to be both wicked and selfish, matter of fact, throw in enemies of progress and denier of destinies.

ApexTitan:


It has to be both wicked and selfish, matter of fact, throw in enemies of progress and denier of destinies.

That's a new one. It hasn't been used on me, yet.

claremont:


How many Nigerians can come up with the aforementioned?!

No data?

I'm struggling to understand your point.

He's confusing standard of living with wealth/savings.

Some villagers in Nigeria might even have a better standard of living than city dwellers in Nigeria..

Even the American that doesn't have $500 savings enjoys the following:

24/7 electricity. I'm not talking about a fluke 2 weeks straight. I'm talking decades of 24/7 electricity.
Clean and mostly safe to drink pipe borne water.
Central sewage system.
Affordable, prompt and luxurious public transporation system.
Emergency services via 911. A seasoned and well-trained team of professional police, ambulance, and fire department will arrive in minutes.
Safe and efficient roads that are lighted and can be travelled safely 24/7.
Access to decent health care. There are laws that patients have to be stabilized at ANY hospital even if they do not have health insurance.
Reasonable due process from police officers and court system.
Bribing is in itself a separate felonious charge.

So before those guys lash out wildly at diasporans they should please use gumption.

deepchocolate:


7 out of 10 american dont have $1000 in saving

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/10/09/savings-study/91083712/

More than half ameeican cant come up with $500 in case of emergency .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3387392/More-half-Americans-just-500-away-personal-financial-disaster-t-handle-unexpected-emergency-bill.html

In fact i was listening to a show where the scholars are trying to find a new definition to what it means to be a middle class in america .
Many of some kind of debts one way or another.

So what exactly is your point, you are just talking about the challenges in the US for some sect, then comparing it to the best life of 1% of Nigerians. Are you really making an argument? This is just a pure waste of time. News flash... even some people living the so called life in Lekki/ ikoyi are in debts, big debts, but you will never know.

deepchocolate:


7 out of 10 american dont have $1000 in saving

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/10/09/savings-study/91083712/

More than half ameeican cant come up with $500 in case of emergency .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3387392/More-half-Americans-just-500-away-personal-financial-disaster-t-handle-unexpected-emergency-bill.html

In fact i was listening to a show where the scholars are trying to find a new definition to what it means to be a middle class in america .
Many of some kind of debts one way or another.

With all the statistics you ve posted there, why dont footballers retire to Nigeria? where their million bucks will make them king? Most won't even live anywhere other than few areas in ikoyi or banana island. The only thing affiliating here is the culture, not those warped statistics you posted.

mctowel01:

With all the statistics you ve posted there, why dont footballers retire to Nigeria? where their million bucks will make them king? Most won't even live anywhere other than few areas in ikoyi or banana island. The only thing affiliating here is the culture, not those warped statistics you posted.

Where kanu, okocha etc if you have a million dollar right now my bro you won't stay in Yankee you go run come home stop siking yourself

Just leave all these men. We know their type. They will defend the US. to their last blood when even rich Americans are renouncing their citizenship and moving to other countries because of the high tax rate. If you are able to save $1million in your 401k account CNN Money will profile you. I asked a simple question for them to name a single Nigerian who went to the US. and made millions of dollars or those Nigeria born there who were able to become millionaires, they all avoided my question. Another expensive joke is Nigerians who tell lies about Registered Nurses being rich. America don't consider them rich people, they are just there paying the bills. The only time an RN is gonna be rich is when a Nigerian tells you. It is just a save face profession

efismikoko:


Where kanu, okocha etc if you have a million dollar right now my bro you won't stay in Yankee you go run come home stop siking yourself

mctowel01:

So what exactly is your point, you are just talking about the challenges in the US for some sect, then comparing it to the best life of 1% of Nigerians. Are you really making an argument? This is just a pure waste of time. News flash... even some people living the so called life in Lekki/ ikoyi are in debts, big debts, but you will never know.

WORD

ayodele234:
Just leave all these men. We know their type. They will defend the US. to their last blood when even rich Americans are renouncing their citizenship and moving to other countries because of the high tax rate. If you are able to save $1million in your 401k account CNN Money will profile you. I asked a simple question for them to name a single Nigerian who went to the US. and made millions of dollars or those Nigeria born there who were able to become millionaires, they all avoided my question. Another expensive joke is Nigerians who tell lies about Registered Nurses being rich. America don't consider them rich people, they are just there paying the bills. The only time an RN is gonna be rich is when a Nigerian tells you. It is just a save face profession

You see, based on your comments, I believe your mind set is, bejng successful and living a good life equals amassing a lot of money, or being a millionaire.

Sorry to say, but that is not correct
being successful is measured in more ways than one.

Living a structured life to some is the definition of success

Having plenty money to oppress others to some is the definition of success

Having the good things of life at little cost to others is the definition of success

Amongst others

So for Nigerians who have "oppressive tendencies" will NEVER love to live abroad, that I know for sure. The type of people who like to get away with things because they think they have status....

We know their type, and they are here in this thread


in summary sha, Nigeria is not HELL, things are just more difficult here, that's all

Ugosample:


You see, based on your comments, I believe your mind set is, bejng successful and living a good life equals amassing a lot of money, or being a millionaire.

Sorry to say, but that is not correct
being successful is measured in more ways than one.

Living a structured life to some is the definition of success

Having plenty money to oppress others to some is the definition of success

Having the good things of life at little cost to others is the definition of success

Amongst others

So for Nigerians who have "oppressive tendencies" will NEVER love to live abroad, that I know for sure. The type of people who like to get away with things because they think they have status....

We know their type, and they are here in this thread


in summary sha, Nigeria is not HELL, things are just more difficult here, that's all

Bros leave long story if you don't have money anywhere that place will irritate you

We make money so we can get all the basic amenities we need and you know the good part they become ours that we can even pass down to our generation to come
We don't make money to oppress our people pls

You nija Yankees are the people that work and save then come to Nigeria to oppress us when you change the dollars Abi I lie
And you can't get good things of life at little cost bro

efismikoko:


Bros leave long story if you don't have money anywhere that place will irritate you

We make money so we can get all the basic amenities we need and you know the good part they become ours that we can even pass down to our generation to come
We don't make money to oppress our people pls

You nija Yankees are the people that work and save then come to Nigeria to oppress us when you change the dollars Abi I lie
And you can't get good things of life at little cost bro

I am not a Yankee based o

Just call me a nomad

But the truth is that from my years in NG, I saw the warped mind set of many living there
Sad but true

Ugosample:


You see, based on your comments, I believe your mind set is, bejng successful and living a good life equals amassing a lot of money, or being a millionaire.

Sorry to say, but that is not correct
being successful is measured in more ways than one.

Living a structured life to some is the definition of success

Having plenty money to oppress others to some is the definition of success

Having the good things of life at little cost to others is the definition of success

Amongst others

So for Nigerians who have "oppressive tendencies" will NEVER love to live abroad, that I know for sure. The type of people who like to get away with things because they think they have status....

We know their type, and they are here in this thread


in summary sha, Nigeria is not HELL, things are just more difficult here, that's all

Well put. I also observed those tendencies in this thread. I wonder whether people just think they can enter a country and begin to pack away all their dollars, then begin to oppress. I ve observed that what many are agitating for is a society where they will be making so much money amidst poverty... opressive tendencies.

ayodele234:
Just leave all these men. We know their type. They will defend the US. to their last blood when even rich Americans are renouncing their citizenship and moving to other countries because of the high tax rate. If you are able to save $1million in your 401k account CNN Money will profile you. I asked a simple question for them to name a single Nigerian who went to the US. and made millions of dollars or those Nigeria born there who were able to become millionaires, they all avoided my question. Another expensive joke is Nigerians who tell lies about Registered Nurses being rich. America don't consider them rich people, they are just there paying the bills. The only time an RN is gonna be rich is when a Nigerian tells you. It is just a save face profession

A Nigerian Born Kings College Schooled guy named Chinedu Echuro sold an app to Apple some years back for One Billion Dollars...
Some Nigerian born players make seriulous money in the American Basketball and Football.Leagues. Nigerians abroad remit 21 billion dollars official figure to.Nigeria last Year, Unofficial figure that is by exchange, barter and sending goods may be 25-30 billion dollars last Year

If Nigeria is paying You legally fine, If not and You are ready to Study and work legally and finance Your studies and be patient for some years, a skilled Nurse / Professional can save a minimum of100O0 usd a year after Mortgage, rent, car loan, health insurance, prudent lifestyle...... and still have savings to reinvest
You can shuffle between the 2 worlds business here, Career there like Some of My Nairaland Egbons dooo....they know themselves

The Choice is Yours .......Depends on Your priority

ranisharma:
Black Magic Specialist

there're more black magic in Nigeria... If u can't offer white magic.....keep mute..aap jald hee paagal ho jaenge hai

Ugosample:

So for Nigerians who have "oppressive tendencies" will NEVER love to live abroad, that I know for sure. The type of people who like to get away with things because they think they have status....

Lol...funny but true!...the very people that would be shouting at and slapping anyone below their status at home....see them at the airport jumping to instructions from the ehmmm....low life Immigration officers! "Sir get back behind that line and wait until you are called"...such ehmmm.... humiliation and that's only the introduction. True... they really can't live abroad!

Originalsly:
Lol...funny but true!...the very people that would be shouting at and slapping anyone below their status at home....see them at the airport jumping to instructions from the ehmmm....low life Immigration officers! "Sir get back behind that line and wait until you are called"...such ehmmm.... humiliation and that's only the introduction. True... they really can't live abroad!

Thank God someone sees the point im making.